Gambling addiction causing victim to scam his family

[Doell]

Wrong there is the gambler, As a gambler in that's a man see, free bet ignited already pent up emotions. We may often experience this because not a few people have it, including me. Admitting that, to be honest I was in a similar condition to that guy, but luckily I didn't go too far like him. Gambling is something that is interesting but we have to be good at controlling emotions.

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[livingfree]

The above story is an example of a whale losing $200 million to gambling addiction. There are other whales who also lost a lot of money.

It seems that gambling addiction affects everyone from the rich to the poor.

I wonder if its gambling that is at fault. Or whether some lack impulse control. Perhaps they don't know how to lose gracefully and never back down from a gambling fight. Its sad. But its real life.

It really does, IIRC, there's also a famous NBA star that have lost his wealth due to addiction, I can't remember if it's on gambling or it's with illegal drugs.

Nevertheless, once a rich person can no longer handle himself with his activities, he's going to spend ravage and won't notice that his wealth is eventually breaking down.

He'll notice it too late when he's got nothing left anymore.

[Quidat]

Wrong there is the gambler, As a gambler in that's a man see, free bet ignited already pent up emotions. We may often experience this because not a few people have it, including me. Admitting that, to be honest I was in a similar condition to that guy, but luckily I didn't go too far like him. Gambling is something that is interesting but we have to be good at controlling emotions.

Controlling emotions might simple to mention on but totally applying it when you are on a severe addiction is something really hard to be done when you are on that state which addiction
is really trying to overcome you where you could really go into certain extent on making yourself doing some actions which you do something yourself cant believe but since the urge
of addiction is really strong then you wont really be minding even if you do really stole something out from your family or scamming them.You would really be going into that
certain extent if we arent serious on quitting gambling.

[Boristhecat]

I have heard and even witnessed something like this happened. At the end of the day, it is the bettor who is at fault for falling into the trap set, but of course the gambling company has a lot of role to play in triggering the gamblers. Gamblers has the power to reject or let themselves be under the influence of their addiction once again. I just hire that they seek whatever help they need, especially professional help.

Yes, gamblers should take full responsibility just like shopaholics, alcoholics and other people with addictions. If we start dividing this responsibility between those who advertise (of their product which, when used in reasonable quantities, does no harm) with people who consume it uncontrollably and face unpleasant consequences, we will harm all parties.

[ethereumhunter]

I have heard and even witnessed something like this happened. At the end of the day, it is the bettor who is at fault for falling into the trap set, but of course the gambling company has a lot of role to play in triggering the gamblers. Gamblers has the power to reject or let themselves be under the influence of their addiction once again. I just hire that they seek whatever help they need, especially professional help.

Yes, gamblers should take full responsibility just like shopaholics, alcoholics and other people with addictions. If we start dividing this responsibility between those who advertise (of their product which, when used in reasonable quantities, does no harm) with people who consume it uncontrollably and face unpleasant consequences, we will harm all parties.

Still, gamblers have to be held accountable because it is their risk of becoming addicted. But sadly, not many can realize this and are drawn even deeper into gambling. I think this is a shared responsibility between gamblers, advertisers and casinos but I don't know, it seems that casinos and advertisers keep going without thinking about the fate of gamblers who are addicted to gambling.

[KTChampions]

Still, gamblers have to be held accountable because it is their risk of becoming addicted. But sadly, not many can realize this and are drawn even deeper into gambling. I think this is a shared responsibility between gamblers, advertisers and casinos but I don't know, it seems that casinos and advertisers keep going without thinking about the fate of gamblers who are addicted to gambling.

Why should a business think about those who misuse its products? What can you say about fast food and those who are addicted to it? Obviously they have huge negative consequences - obesity and related health problems. But are food manufacturers to blame? I think no. And attempts to extend responsibility to normal market participants will harm, first of all, ordinary normal consumers, that is, everyone will be punished except for those who have an addiction.

[agustina2]

Yes, gamblers should take full responsibility just like shopaholics, alcoholics and other people with addictions. If we start dividing this responsibility between those who advertise (of their product which, when used in reasonable quantities, does no harm) with people who consume it uncontrollably and face unpleasant consequences, we will harm all parties.

Same in cigarette advertisements - "smoking is dangerous to your health"
Same in liquor advertisements - "drink moderately"

Some gambling sites also have a banner or terms pointing to "gamble moderately" or "responsible gambling". Since these companies are promoting their products and services, obviously they won't say stop doing this or that.

We, as a consumer and clients, should be responsible for what we are doing.

[Findingnemo]

What the gambling site did was wrong but at the end of the day they didn't force him to scam so the addiction made him to scam so he can't sue the sportbook for his immoral actions which can never be justified. We all should have self discipline in everything because we are in control of our actions.

[mindrust]

Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

It was established that the two accounts, to which the payments totalling €56,000 were made, were a personal bank account and a Boyle Sports account, both in Thomas O’Connell’s name. The payments varied from €100 to €1000 and averaged at just over €200.
“Contact was almost on a daily basis – sometimes a couple of times on a particular day. He admitted that he took €56,000 and impersonated (the solicitor),” Det. Garda Fuller said. O’Connell was actually a client of the solicitor he impersonated. The defendant had a gambling and alcohol addiction.
The phone calls and texts – supposedly from the solicitor - to the victim were a work of fiction by 48-year-old Thomas O’Connell who did not stop until he got his hands on every euro of the €56,000 the victim had inherited.

It is not a matter of who is right or who is wrong. Most people have weak minds. They get addicted to different stuff very easily.  Some get addicted to alcohol/drugs, some get addicted to tobacco and some become gambling addicts. Getting high education isn't going to solve this problem neither. I've seen doctors becoming addicts too. For that simple reason, casinos&tobacco shops will never ever go bankrupt as long as humans exist.

[DoublerHunter]

What the gambling site did was wrong but at the end of the day they didn't force him to scam so the addiction made him to scam so he can't sue the sportbook for his immoral actions which can never be justified. We all should have self discipline in everything because we are in control of our actions.

^ One of the main factors that cause this for sure is greediness, don't let this will happen, and stop your greediness at all times.
You will never be justified in the end if you will chase money in gambling and when you left nothing, that is the time you will for sure commit crimes and even your family is the number one victim. Moderately gambling is the right way to control yourself, it should start with yourself on how to control it.
The story shows how will educate ourselves in gambling, that was an advantage to all of us here because we are aware of others' mistakes and avoid not will happen to us.

[Kakmakr]

The gambler are to blame....

He had the option to go out to get a second job, that would have kept him busy...not having the extra time to gamble... but he decided to rather scam money out of his family and friends and now he wants to shift the blame to the people who offered him the opportunity to gamble.

This is typical of the new thinking of people... "Always a victim" .... never taking the responsibility for their actions. We have the freedom to make choices...and he took the wrong option.  

[Saisher]

The gambler in the article happens to play in a corrupt casino, the casino knows that he is betting huge and they want to bait him into coming back by giving him a lot of promotions and free bets since he is a compulsive gambler and an offer like this is hard to refuse, I don't think even if there are no promotions coming in, he will stop playing and will continue to scam his family.
Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.

[ethereumhunter]

Still, gamblers have to be held accountable because it is their risk of becoming addicted. But sadly, not many can realize this and are drawn even deeper into gambling. I think this is a shared responsibility between gamblers, advertisers and casinos but I don't know, it seems that casinos and advertisers keep going without thinking about the fate of gamblers who are addicted to gambling.

Why should a business think about those who misuse its products? What can you say about fast food and those who are addicted to it? Obviously they have huge negative consequences - obesity and related health problems. But are food manufacturers to blame? I think no. And attempts to extend responsibility to normal market participants will harm, first of all, ordinary normal consumers, that is, everyone will be punished except for those who have an addiction.

Food producers are not to be blamed, but at least they can advise the public about the meaning of health. That means they can provide education to the public while selling their products.

Think about it. Have food manufacturers been blamed for their products? Even when the product can be said to be a product defect or other negative things? In the end, the food producers will answer, we only sell our products and if people buy our products it means they understand the consequences. Is it fair to society?

[zidanw]

We are in control of ourselves to be attracted or disinterested to play casino excessively without control, so casino companies are not involved in wrongdoing because they are not forcing someone to register a gambling member or not. All decisions are up to each one of them, so don't be influenced by anything that makes us active gambling addicts.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Although our environment throws many triggers and distractions to us, if we put our mind to it on really fighting against the urge to gamble, then we could probably make the fight. But, if we just let our guard down and be drawn to the influences, then we are really to be doomed.

[bitzizzix]

The gambler are to blame....

He had the option to go out to get a second job, that would have kept him busy...not having the extra time to gamble... but he decided to rather scam money out of his family and friends and now he wants to shift the blame to the people who offered him the opportunity to gamble.

This is typical of the new thinking of people... "Always a victim" .... never taking the responsibility for their actions. We have the freedom to make choices...and he took the wrong option.  

Yes, he is a gambler who is wrong, problematic and also irresponsible for harming or sacrificing others even his own family just for the wrong pleasure which I think he has become the acute trigger and does not think about what will happen next.
it doesn't matter if the gambling site is fraudulent or wrong, because what needs to be smart is the user without doing research and also thinking clean.

[Findingnemo]

What the gambling site did was wrong but at the end of the day they didn't force him to scam so the addiction made him to scam so he can't sue the sportbook for his immoral actions which can never be justified. We all should have self discipline in everything because we are in control of our actions.

^ One of the main factors that cause this for sure is greediness, don't let this will happen, and stop your greediness at all times.
You will never be justified in the end if you will chase money in gambling and when you left nothing, that is the time you will for sure commit crimes and even your family is the number one victim. Moderately gambling is the right way to control yourself, it should start with yourself on how to control it.
The story shows how will educate ourselves in gambling, that was an advantage to all of us here because we are aware of others' mistakes and avoid not will happen to us.

Everyone has the greediness but most know that what are their limits so they don't dare to commit such crimes while some who is ready to do anything to satisfy their needs may find in those situations. Educating the community in the early stage itself can save people from doing this in their adult but nobody really cares in this selfish world.

[Slow death]

Reading this news I see that many parts of the story are cut or incomplete. The guy was addicted to alcohol and gambling.

But why aren't they blaming the companies that make alcoholic beverages?

why are they just blaming the casino?

in the article it doesn't mention if he lost all the money after receiving the bonus and also in the article it doesn't mention if he was playing online or in the physical casino and also in the article it doesn't mention if he had medical proof that he was addicted to gambling and alcohol , it seems to me that every article is someone's opinion without being based on evidence, I'm talking about the addictions part, even if the guy has pleaded guilty and also he considers himself addicted until he has a doctor to prove that he really is an addict so he's not an addict, so I ask the same question again:

Did the guy show any medical documents to the casino to say he was addicted? Did he show this to some alcohol company to get all alcohol companies and bars to stop selling him alcohol?

people always blame gambling sites when it comes to addiction, but they forget that there are a lot of guys who are addicted to alcohol and i have never seen it said that alcohol companies should stop selling alcohol to person Z because he is addicted

[rhomelmabini]

I thought casinos are good at this and they wouldn't let anyone penetrate such kind of stuffs, but hey there are few who does count. Casinos should have problem gambling experts to identify this people rather than letting them play, it's the person has to be blame for what happened at the end of the day and by the way, he plead guilty for that.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I refuse to see individuals like the one described as victims. We can always see the wrongdoer as a victim. In this case a victim of alcohol and gambling. Many child abusers were abused as children. We can see them as victims too. Same for murderers and whatever else we want. We can always find an external factor to blame.

In this case the Sports Bet website is partly to blame for continuing to contact him despite wanting to close the account, but he is to blame for scamming his friend. Alcohol and gambling can get you into trouble but virtually no one who drinks, gambles, or both, scams their friends to gamble. 

To consider alcohol, gambling or drugs as the culprits is in reality giving alibis to criminals, as every criminal drinks, takes drugs and/or gambles.

[Finestream]

Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.

I think the blame should only be put to the gambler alone. He cannot control himself from its addiction that end up making wrong decisions. However, on the part of the casino, i have encounter some of the gambling platforms who are offering some bonuses, and its up to you if you will bite it or refuse to accept it. So definitely the final decision is still in the hands of the gambler. And here, the gambler also takes advantage of the offer, so that caused him too much addiction that he end up scamming which i think he is the only one responsible for his own actions.