Gambling addiction causing victim to scam his family

[rodskee]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some
request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario.

As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be
able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling.

You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned.

I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.

But the problem here is that  they are borrowing from friends and family yet they were being lent? this is a not so good attitude because as they knew  addicted gamblers cannot afford to pay still they are consistently sharing money?
they are only making those gamblers more addicted and ruining their life.
stop supporting gambler and let them find their funds to gamble so they will value the money before spending to gambling .

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[passwordnow]

It is easier if these things are combined with someone's help to completely stop gambling. A problem will just generate another problem if not being addressed properly.
And going with the decision that should haven't done is the mistake by many addicted gamblers. The examples are there and it's just few from the many things that they do and that's not just destroying themselves but even their relation to their family and friends.

Actually it do connects out on someones personality since there are people who doesnt really listen to anybody and wont tend to solo out their own problem even with their loved ones or family
and on the time that they couldnt able to comprehend or able to control it out then thats the time things even get more messy which this something had been controlled earlier
and dont let yourself come into this point.

Whenever you do goes addicted on a severe manner then unexpected things will surely happen which you didnt even expect for it to be done by someone.

It's not a secret that when you act unwisely and you let your addiction overcome you, there would really be bad things that await you and to those that will be affected by your action.
We all knew that it's not a good idea to let others be affected by our actions but, we can't help ourselves when we're on that severe manner and addiction that even us can no longer help ourselves and control it.

[maydna]

Why does his family don't seek a professional to take care him? gambling addictions isn't a joke and only can be solved by prohibition.

Maybe his family didn't know that he often gambled, so his family didn't look for a professional. We also will not know what happened and how his relationship with his family.

You wouldn't know what they're doing with your money and it's dumb if they tell you if your money used for gambling, the best way is don't lend your money to anyone including your friends. If they're forcing you and you don't have any choice, then lend him only few portion e.g. 20-50%, don't give full amount.

Even though he keeps forcing us to lend him our money, I think we can still refuse him because we don't want him to get deeper into gambling. This is for his own good and to keep him from getting more addicted. If he tries to borrow money from someone else, it's none of our business.

I would not be willing to lend if he used the loan for his purposes not for gambling and alcohol. But if someone lies to me because of a loan to use both of them then I will never care about that person other than collecting the loan, nothing more than that.

Yes, that's because we don't want to be blamed by his family for lending him money. Besides, we also don't know if he's lying or not because once he accepts the money and leaves, he can use it for whatever he wants. And if he doesn't have good self-control, he can go back to gambling to gamble again and try to win some money from gambling.

[Davidvictorson]

Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.

I agree with you. For example, Bitlucy Casino & Sports gave about $10 free betting bonuses. They didn't know if I am a gambling addict or not. And I do not think that there is any form to fill while signing up that has a box tick to indicate whether one is a gambling addict or not. From the story, I feel that the betting bonuses sent to the person in the story was a trigger for him. People who suffer from addictions have various triggers and for me the bonus was a trigger that caused him to have a relapse.

[NewRanger]

Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.

I agree with you. For example, Bitlucy Casino & Sports gave about $10 free betting bonuses. They didn't know if I am a gambling addict or not. And I do not think that there is any form to fill while signing up that has a box tick to indicate whether one is a gambling addict or not. From the story, I feel that the betting bonuses sent to the person in the story was a trigger for him. People who suffer from addictions have various triggers and for me the bonus was a trigger that caused him to have a relapse.

they give us bonuses to try their gambling feature and ofcourse make us curious when we lost it. its strategy from house to make us interested by giving  fishing rod so we will trapped in bad condition. they never care about customers or users status as addicted or not,  because it rellated with their income, having more addicted users will give them more income  and money.

[Pamadar]

On a second thought the gambler was able to beat his gambling addiction but, he failed at foregoing his addiction for greed. The company must have sent same promotional mail to every other member of the Casino. The gambler out of greed exhausted the $50 offer and yet was not satisfied by it. However, the casino tricked him using a $50 bait to lure him back into the gambling world knowing pretty well that he is greedy.

I think he was not completely able to beat his addiction as we saw that it lasted until he had an offer in his email to play for free a little amount as a gift from the casino website.If he was truly convinced to leave gambling once and for all he should have also unsubscribed from all the casinos and their marketing emails.When I see my email it is full of such offers (not free money) but marketing emails from the casinos I play the most at.If I want to quit gambling for good,I unsubscribe from all these marketing emails from the gambling companies.

Good point, if he is really convinced that he should quit completely, he should also unsubscribe from all the channels that the

casino can access and contact him. The problem in his case is that he's not completely out and
after showing his interest that addiction being triggered again.

If someone is trying to prevent going back from these vices, he shouldn't look back on anything
it can avoid scamming his family if he completely quits away.

[molsewid]

On a second thought the gambler was able to beat his gambling addiction but, he failed at foregoing his addiction for greed. The company must have sent same promotional mail to every other member of the Casino. The gambler out of greed exhausted the $50 offer and yet was not satisfied by it. However, the casino tricked him using a $50 bait to lure him back into the gambling world knowing pretty well that he is greedy.

I think he was not completely able to beat his addiction as we saw that it lasted until he had an offer in his email to play for free a little amount as a gift from the casino website.If he was truly convinced to leave gambling once and for all he should have also unsubscribed from all the casinos and their marketing emails.When I see my email it is full of such offers (not free money) but marketing emails from the casinos I play the most at.If I want to quit gambling for good,I unsubscribe from all these marketing emails from the gambling companies.

Good point, if he is really convinced that he should quit completely, he should also unsubscribe from all the channels that the casino can access and contact him. The problem in his case is that he's not completely out and after showing his interest that addiction being triggered again.

If someone is trying to prevent going back from these vices, he shouldn't look back on anything it can avoid scamming his family if he completely quits away.

His family can really affect his behavior, I hope they can help them to distract himself from gambling. Aside from his inner will to conquer his life problem he needs a support system so that he could really change the way he thinks in the world , it is very hard to stop the thing that you are always doing , things that keeps your adrenaline and gives you fake happiness because you are addicted to it.

[YOSHIE]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?

In a situation like this, it is the user who is to blame.

If the user has closed the account on the Boyle Sports site, he should block the Email and delete everything related to Boyle Sports, the fact he didn't do it, notifications from Boyle Sports continued to receive a $50 bonus, this is what makes the user appear greedy, try and keep trying to bet hoping to win big, without realizing he had spent all the money his family had borrowed or his family's money.

The user's family has been right in court, the one who should be blamed is the user, Boyle Sports will of course send an email to each user at random, especially if the user has data and betting history with large amounts of money, but if the user really stops not wanting to get involved anymore, he definitely does as I said above, because of the user's carelessness and greed that made him fall back into the game and ended up sadistically.

BoyleSports, they do their job like, what other users do, only the user can decide where to drive, stop, turn left, right and go straight.

[Lordhermes]

On a second thought the gambler was able to beat his gambling addiction but, he failed at foregoing his addiction for greed. The company must have sent same promotional mail to every other member of the Casino. The gambler out of greed exhausted the $50 offer and yet was not satisfied by it. However, the casino tricked him using a $50 bait to lure him back into the gambling world knowing pretty well that he is greedy.

It is never always easy to leave gambling totally,something must drag you back to play again and that is how it continue to eat you up untill you are frustrated.Most person's today are into gambling are finding it difficult to stop it completely because it comes with addiction.The moment you are addicted to something it becomes difficult for you to stop doing it,no matter what happens to you while doing it.Gambling has put many people in debt that they cannot pay,yet,they still can't leave it.Total avoidance and self realization are the only one things that can help one to stop it.

[Jawhead999]

Total avoidance and self realization are the only one things that can help one to stop it.

The thing is when you already realized it and want to correct your mistake, you're too late. Most people realize when he have done something big mistake e.g. sold all of his asset, jailed, have serious disease etc. Without think twice before made a decision, they will do anything that can satisfy them.

[doomloop]

I think he was not completely able to beat his addiction as we saw that it lasted until he had an offer in his email to play for free a little amount as a gift from the casino website.If he was truly convinced to leave gambling once and for all he should have also unsubscribed from all the casinos and their marketing emails.When I see my email it is full of such offers (not free money) but marketing emails from the casinos I play the most at.If I want to quit gambling for good,I unsubscribe from all these marketing emails from the gambling companies.

Yes. Stopping playing and closing the account is not a solid proof to tell that a gambling addict quits for good but at some point of his life, he will see himself at the casino playing once again and it seems that we are right with that because the guy take the offer and re-login to his account and as expected he didn't get contented on the offer but he pour some more money and lose on the game of chance.

50 dollars is only just a small amount of money compared to what we have lost before and we will be lost in the future by the time we came back on the casino. We should realize that thing if we want to sincerely change our habit from bad to good.

[khaled0111]

If the bettors claims are true about Boyle Sports refusing to close his account when he asked them to do so and instead continued to lure him to play more by giving him free money, then Boyle Sports is definitely in the wrong. Such behavior is unethical and unacceptable. I am sure no respectful casino would do such thing as it's their responsibility to protect their customers who have gambling problems.
This doesn't mean the bettor isn't in the wrong too. He scammed an innocent person and stole more than €56 (according to the article you linked) so he got what he deserved. The judge's ruling was correct.

[Silberman]

If the bettors claims are true about Boyle Sports refusing to close his account when he asked them to do so and instead continued to lure him to play more by giving him free money, then Boyle Sports is definitely in the wrong. Such behavior is unethical and unacceptable. I am sure no respectful casino would do such thing as it's their responsibility to protect their customers who have gambling problems.
This doesn't mean the bettor isn't in the wrong too. He scammed an innocent person and stole more than €56 (according to the article you linked) so he got what he deserved. The judge's ruling was correct.

We will need to know the gambling regulation to understand if what they did was actually wrong, after all it is not rare that once you decide to cancel your account with a company that company tries to get you back by offering you a discount or something similar, something which I suppose we have all experimented, so it is possible that offering such bet after the account was closed was in fact allowed under the current regulations as this is something that many businesses do, but if that is the case then without a doubt I think the regulation should be changed, so free bets like that cannot be distributed to those which have decided to close their account at a casino.

[smyslov]

If the bettors claims are true about Boyle Sports refusing to close his account when he asked them to do so and instead continued to lure him to play more by giving him free money, then Boyle Sports is definitely in the wrong. Such behavior is unethical and unacceptable. I am sure no respectful casino would do such thing as it's their responsibility to protect their customers who have gambling problems.

If proven that there is refusal and sending of promotions is intentional then Boyle Sports is liable for damages incurred by the complainant, but Boyle sports will always have a defense if they have a third party service that manages their newsletter the complainant is still liable, his being a compulsive gambler is never a defense to scam people, they will accept people who are mentally disordered, he still has criminal liability on his action.

[Wiwo]

If the bettors claims are true about Boyle Sports refusing to close his account when he asked them to do so and instead continued to lure him to play more by giving him free money, then Boyle Sports is definitely in the wrong. Such behavior is unethical and unacceptable. I am sure no respectful casino would do such a thing as it's their responsibility to protect their customers who have gambling problems.
This doesn't mean the bettor isn't in the wrong too. He scammed an innocent person and stole more than €56 (according to the article you linked) so he got what he deserved. The judge's ruling was correct.

I was thinking in the same direction as your view not until I read the whole article and I will advise you do the same to get the whole story correctly, the sole responsibility is left to the gambler to protect himself from being lured into what he already self-excluded and be careful not to get tempted and the man in question already have the habit of scamming his family even before he start gambling, Boyle sport just gave him the platform to burn out the money fast by gambling it away excessively. In this case, both are guilty and I will not blame only one party since there are two parties involved and they both deviated from the ethical way of doing things.

[_act_]

I think he was not completely able to beat his addiction as we saw that it lasted until he had an offer in his email to play for free a little amount as a gift from the casino website.If he was truly convinced to leave gambling once and for all he should have also unsubscribed from all the casinos and their marketing emails.When I see my email it is full of such offers (not free money) but marketing emails from the casinos I play the most at.If I want to quit gambling for good,I unsubscribe from all these marketing emails from the gambling companies.

I like your idea, it can help to quit gambling addiction to some extent but if someone is very addicted, he can unsubscribe from the emails and still he will still later find himself gambling.

I got someone that receive the emails and with free bets but yet not even using the money to bet again. I noticed some people only want to make money from gambling and see it as job, the person I am talking about got job and quite after being a gambling addict for like 3 or 4 years.

I still think there should be better but additional means that needs to be involved for an addict to stop gambling.

That aside, to scam family is completely awful and not making any sense. Besides, not even on something like business but on gambling. That is completely out of sense.

[Fortify]

It was established that the two accounts, to which the payments totalling €56,000 were made, were a personal bank account and a Boyle Sports account, both in Thomas O’Connell’s name. The payments varied from €100 to €1000 and averaged at just over €200.
“Contact was almost on a daily basis – sometimes a couple of times on a particular day. He admitted that he took €56,000 and impersonated (the solicitor),” Det. Garda Fuller said. O’Connell was actually a client of the solicitor he impersonated. The defendant had a gambling and alcohol addiction.
The phone calls and texts – supposedly from the solicitor - to the victim were a work of fiction by 48-year-old Thomas O’Connell who did not stop until he got his hands on every euro of the €56,000 the victim had inherited.

The most shocking part of this whole story, like so many other times when this happens, is the whole sum that was involved. 56k would be a huge sum to most people and this was extracted in probably a year or two, this is a substantial sum that could have given them such a big head start if they had not frittered it away. You've got to wonder how someone gets to the age of 48 years old and has not figured out what a futile activity gambling is - that sort of sum could easily have padded out their retirement instead of dreams and stress of trying to attain a mythical big win. At that sort of age, it is really hard to have any sympathy for them because they should have learned the pitfalls a long time ago.

[dezoel]

In my neighbourhood, I have seen a guy selling his parent's house and gambling away all the funds gathered and obviously lost them all. Even worst his parents were struggling with some health issues and when they came to know about it, their son had suicided already in guilt and pressure from his friends for the payment of the remaining amount. Somehow everyone in the society came forward and helped but I can't even share the kind of emotions everyone went through, even though most of us didn't even know what exactly happened.

Gambling addiction sucks. Period. But, gambling itself isn't the problem it's the excessive gambling and the mentality that sucks and makes gambling look like such a bad thing. It's the same with alcohol and tobacco, you consume once in a while and you're fine (most likely) but if you repeat and make it your addiction, you will be in trouble tomorrow if not today.

[Saint-loup]

In my neighbourhood, I have seen a guy selling his parent's house and gambling away all the funds gathered and obviously lost them all. Even worst his parents were struggling with some health issues and when they came to know about it, their son had suicided already in guilt and pressure from his friends for the payment of the remaining amount. Somehow everyone in the society came forward and helped but I can't even share the kind of emotions everyone went through, even though most of us didn't even know what exactly happened.

Gambling addiction sucks. Period. But, gambling itself isn't the problem it's the excessive gambling and the mentality that sucks and makes gambling look like such a bad thing. It's the same with alcohol and tobacco, you consume once in a while and you're fine (most likely) but if you repeat and make it your addiction, you will be in trouble tomorrow if not today.

I'm not sure gambling is the main culprit in your story and in the story of OP. The main culprit here, is dishonesty IMO, gambling had only been a trigger that could have been something else either. Not everyone is able to start to lie, to rob or to kill to satisfy a gambling addiction.

[Tumanggor]

Total avoidance and self realization are the only one things that can help one to stop it.

The thing is when you already realized it and want to correct your mistake, you're too late. Most people realize when he have done something big mistake e.g. sold all of his asset, jailed, have serious disease etc. Without think twice before made a decision, they will do anything that can satisfy them.

people today will not want to change without a big disaster that befell them and their surroundings (family or friends). There have been many cases where gamblers sold family assets just to gamble and lost. This is really worrying because when this disaster happens, people will definitely stay away from that person