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I am afraid that if you are from the future it means that you already know what will happen,even the blocks number mined.I think this is no different than most hash lotteries that I have seen here and Freebitco.in uses such case when choosing their lottery weekly winners and if I am not mistaken even in the big event of the Lambo win. Being from the future entitles you to win,especially in such lotteries as you know the hash that won for example the previous day,you come back in time and choose exactly that.Nothing special for me about such lotteries and I never play them.
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May 26, 2022, 06:59:49 AM |
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Why will anyone from the future want to go through the steps of predicting the right lottery, when he can easily look at the winning ticket before picking it. It does not make sense to me future allows you to know what happens ahead but I don't know how your lottery system works any way I suggest you change that part that mentions the future to just a harsh lottery, and also consider buying a copper member account to post some images.
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May 26, 2022, 01:05:45 PM |
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The question is, is time travel possible, and is there really such a thing as coming from the future, you don't have to connect this to your betting project, I understand this is a chat-based betting, but I'd like to know how to organize the betting and who will manage and what the rules that will apply, this is open to scam as it is chat-based I prefer a more organize casino like we all have here.
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May 26, 2022, 06:00:30 PM |
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That's great but honestly what are the chances of winning the lottery? Not a lot right, also the amount is not something that is too much around 7$ in LTC therefore people might participate but again when they are participating the probability would not really be on your side, I personally stay away from the lottery even if it's fair and as you say innovative and in general affordable because I do not trust on my luck at all. Other than that I do think if you are advertising the lottery you can do a bit better, some images and banners would do good, the site is too simple and at the same time less descriptive, does not look professional at all.
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May 26, 2022, 06:33:17 PM |
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I doubt your newbie status on Bitcointalk or your 1 community member will convince me to trust this hashlottery of yours without more information or proof of functionality and security. You need to explain the concept better or create a functioning service which proves how fair, reliable and secure it is. Until then you only have an idea of an idea which might or might now work out in reality. Come back when you put a few weeks work into it and have something to show us Sorry. Why will anyone from the future want to go through the steps of predicting the right lottery, when he can easily look at the winning ticket before picking it. It does not make sense to me future allows you to know what happens ahead but I don't know how your lottery system works any way I suggest you change that part that mentions the future to just a harsh lottery, and also consider buying a copper member account to post some images. Well thats the kind of thing science is trying to figure out. It might be true if the theory of quantum retrocausality pans out. There already is a physics experiment which supports it. https://phys.org/news/2017-07-physicists-retrocausal-quantum-theory-future.html#:~:text=Instead%2C%20retrocausality%20means%20that%2C%20when,the%20experimenter%20made%20their%20choice. So yes, it would appear that the past effects the future and the future effects the past. We are in between that dynamic action. retrocausality may be one of the missing pieces that makes quantum theory complete. Exciting. Scary to think that our memories could be dynamically changing to "accomodate" the current present, so even though we think the past is really the past it isn't. Our memories just change of what the past is because the future changed. But as talented as a physicist I consider myself to be, his 15 minute idea is still an unfeasible project that needs no advertising due to how bad it is.
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May 26, 2022, 09:15:10 PM |
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If that is true then how would you travel back in time to bet the winning bet in that lottery?. If you want to promote your own lottery then you should just buy copper membership and create your ann thread presentable as much as possible and stop with the future thing since in my opinion, it does not exist yet and it may be possible that it will happen (if). More important is the reputation if many will trust this hash lottery or not so better start from there.
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May 26, 2022, 09:54:35 PM |
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If that is true then how would you travel back in time to bet the winning bet in that lottery?. If you want to promote your own lottery then you should just buy copper membership and create your ann thread presentable as much as possible and stop with the future thing since in my opinion, it does not exist yet and it may be possible that it will happen (if). More important is the reputation if many will trust this hash lottery or not so better start from there.
He needs to be realistic with the approach here as he is just building up his credibility. A serious business will present his project in a better way and look for other threads here how they introduce their site properly. But if you are just using some type of bait to possibly attract players, I don't think it will pan out here. Because users here in the forum know if the site is crap or not. Maybe, it will attract players from outside the forum, but here, I don't think so.
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May 26, 2022, 10:28:32 PM |
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Very unusual title it's more of a clickbait type headline from CPA, casino thread title should be straightforward and tell right away what they claim to be, the content of your announcement is also different, no casino site to speak of, only chat group, I cannot trust a chat group for betting, you need to give us something that will make us trust your group, chat group is easy to create and easy to delete too, this is a fly by night betting type of operation.
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May 26, 2022, 10:38:37 PM |
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That's great but honestly what are the chances of winning the lottery?
^ Good question buddy! The problem with the lottery was the chances of winning, I have been here in the forum for quite a long and as I observe, gambling lottery will most likely not exist because many gamblers feel bored and it seems like wasting their money because the chances of winning is not that big. I saw a gambling platform that based on the BTC hashes, the real is provably fair. But the big question now is how you will be able to gain trust upon holding the money pot.
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May 26, 2022, 10:47:50 PM |
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Thank you for the illustration and for explaining this system and how this lottery works. But, unfortunately, there is a flaw in it (at least regarding your claim that even someone coming from the future, the probability will not change!) : you said that if you know the block hash (coming from the future) which will determine the winner, you can't use this information to win the lottery (cheat the system).. this is not correct simply because a user can create as many transactions offline as he wants then broadcast only the winning one (containing the last three characters of the block hash which he already knows).
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May 26, 2022, 10:52:43 PM |
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If the above transaction id contains ff2, it is a winning prize, and the prize will be sent to the input wallet of the transaction id. If no one wins, the prize rolls over to the next draw, so it's a super big lottery. ------------------------------ This idea has just been born, the prize pool has not been opened yet, welcome to discuss.https://discord.gg/CDrMbue8VkI like the idea but I don't like that there are no guidelines and how it will manage everything you should at least put a site for this idea, chat-based betting cannot be taken seriously if you want bettors to take your idea seriously, there is no effort or cost just people talk about betting this thing will be gone in a week because there is no site that holds everything if you believe in your idea build a site for this, bet your money to create one and we will bet on your idea.
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May 26, 2022, 11:01:40 PM |
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I think that your theory would be worth discussing in either a maths forum or in a science-fiction one more likely. But, let's say that we accept the premise of knowing the future... then there is nothing preventing you from knowing all the details of future transaction and profiting from it, but, to be honest, if you already know the future there are much more interesting things to do than to figure out hashes.
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May 26, 2022, 11:11:11 PM |
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The question is, is time travel possible, and is there really such a thing as coming from the future, I will say a partial yes to this, but not on generally, on some type of games, time travel is possible in some way which I would explain below. In my country, there's this local lottery game we play, the game is available to some part of Africa, this game has the same mechanics as lotto, it deals with predicting/choosing five numbers from 1 to 99, out of the five numbers chosen, if a minimum of two numbers among the five numbers you choose happens to be among the five numbers that came out for that day, you win, so the more the numbers you choose is among the five numbers for the day, the higher your winning amount. For example, we have 1 to 99, let's say we choose 23, 5, 17, 90, 67, and at the end of the day, the winning number is 89, 45, 23, 92, 17, it means we won with just 23, 17. Now, here is where the time travel thing comes in, this numbers are always the same for every country participating in the game, but the numbers are not released the same time in this different countries, for example, the numbers are first released in Ghana, and sometimes, it will take over 30 minutes before the same number get released in my country, so in a situation like this, those who have friends in Ghana and their friends play the game, they will contact their friend and ask for the number on board, if the friend is kind enough to give it, then they just hurriedly go and play it before the game closes, and wait for the winning number to hit my country.... This a trick many have used to win this lotto game in time passed that I know off... I personally consider this as some form of time travel.
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That's great but honestly what are the chances of winning the lottery?
^ Good question buddy! The problem with the lottery was the chances of winning, I have been here in the forum for quite a long and as I observe, gambling lottery will most likely not exist because many gamblers feel bored and it seems like wasting their money because the chances of winning is not that big. I saw a gambling platform that based on the BTC hashes, the real is provably fair. But the big question now is how you will be able to gain trust upon holding the money pot. Ive been part of the different lottery in my entire life into the world of gambling and never been get a win even just a small amount into cryptocurrency but in a small lottery like scratch game i made almost $100 is one of the biggest but what if imagine having a large asset into a mliion dollars to win in a lottery it is all about luck and chance they always made a lot of entry to get more chances trusting and patience is the key of having a good shot.
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May 27, 2022, 07:14:54 AM |
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Even if you are from the future, your Lieutenant General probability will not change!
Probability might not change when you are from the future, but you know already the outcomes from all the big sport events. Why not just go for a few games where you know what is going to happen. It seems much more profitable to use your knowledge of the future than try to win at a casino game. There are so many possibilities if you would know how the world looks like in next month or next year. For example, if you know the exact winning score of the Champions League finale tomorrow, you could just bet all your money on that game. Predicting games with the winnings score already gives a nice multipler. And if you know the outcome with 100% certainity you can also go and borrow all the money you can get from friends and family, max out your credit cards and if maybe even get a mortgage on your own house. All it takes would be one game with some time to prepare and we would be rich. Using enough leverage on a sure bet would be the best money printing technique, unfortunately we haven't solved the time travel problem yet. And even if we ever manage to invent time travel, it would probably be a government secret and only very rich individuals or companies could afford it.
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May 28, 2022, 05:58:10 PM |
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I am afraid that if you are from the future it means that you already know what will happen,even the blocks number mined.I think this is no different than most hash lotteries that I have seen here and Freebitco.in uses such case when choosing their lottery weekly winners and if I am not mistaken even in the big event of the Lambo win.
Being from the future entitles you to win,especially in such lotteries as you know the hash that won for example the previous day,you come back in time and choose exactly that.Nothing special for me about such lotteries and I never play them.
It's scary if he is from the future. That means he already knows that he is going to win and most of the players will lose although this was also normal in gambling but if I were him, I won't waste my time building and running a business but I can just bet and bet more on all of the casinos that I came across because I will know if what games or what time will I win but from the OP, I don't know if this some kind of a gambling site or you are just telling us that the probability to win is on lottery are hard and won't change anymore? If you are serious with this then the capital should come first because there's a chance that you will get tired/bored and will not continue this project anymore.
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May 28, 2022, 07:27:31 PM |
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It's scary if he is from the future. That means he already knows that he is going to win and most of the players will lose although this was also normal in gambling but if I were him, I won't waste my time building and running a business but I can just bet and bet more on all of the casinos that I came across because I will know if what games or what time will I win but from the OP, I don't know if this some kind of a gambling site or you are just telling us that the probability to win is on lottery are hard and won't change anymore?
If you are serious with this then the capital should come first because there's a chance that you will get tired/bored and will not continue this project anymore.
If that is 100% true then I suggest that you should ask him what will be the result and you give him a percentage of what you have won. Even if you have said that most of the players lose it is still a proof that when you gamble either in casino, sports betting or even lottery is that your winning chance is very low. If a gambling site publicize the fairness and they show it to us that the result is random and the owner can't choose what will be the result.
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So what is the basis for betting? For example we use ltc for betting Each send a transaction id of 0.1ltc to the ltc prize pool address as your lottery number. tx-id example:1d0cdf3cf055e4fde9580e77a1ff40bf1d578bd5da89091297ec20432f1a7559 If the above transaction id contains ff2, it is a winning prize, and the prize will be sent to the input wallet of the transaction id. If no one wins, the prize rolls over to the next draw, so it's a super big lottery. ------------------------------
This idea has just been born, the prize pool has not been opened yet, welcome to discuss.
And who will handle the prize pool? You? Hell no! Why not just play a common lottery from the existing gambling platforms? The outcome remains the same but has more trustable risk. Also, AFAIK there was a game back then on games and rounds where you put at least the last or first ( I can't really remember ) digit / character of a hash then you'll win a prize, free from krogmanhattan if I'm not wrong. Yes, the idea is indeed good, but such idea is non sense when executed improperly. Better have your own script/program or an app that focuses on that, get a license, then be a Lotto-themed platform.
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May 28, 2022, 10:01:10 PM |
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Humanity was once again defeated by future warriors. . . Yep.. But don't let my comment discourage you. There are many ways to fix this and improve the idea. For example, instead of the ltc transaction hash you can use the hash of the block in which the transaction is included. This way you ensure the ticket number is completely random. You can also combine the block hash with the transaction hash to ensure each player gets a unique ticket number (in case more than one transaction are included in the same block).
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