BitcoinCigarettes.com Factory sealed cigarettes at very low prices

[kokojie]

I ordered a pack from them on Dec. 19th, still have not received as of today. Multiple emails sent, no response.

[joulesbeef]

the 19th damn.. i'd say scammed.

This is one of the many problems with BTC. with anonymity, it is easy to build up trust and then cash in on that trust and take off. Plus you also dont know if people got arrested, run over or abducted by aliens.

stores need to use an escrow service. and you shouldnt trust one that doesnt. Look at silkroad. IT has a high potential for abuse. It deals in illegal items, items people dont go to the police over not getting or getting  wrong. Drugs are expensive. But silkroad has stood the test of time and have operated with little problems since it started.(ok some but not really like we get with this crap)

THey escrow. dealers dont get paid until buyers get their product. Yes there are various issues with this method as well. People can simply say they didnt receive a proper product(you can verify they received the mail), but that limits the scams and number of scams. AN escrow service might believe a trustworthy vender over a buyer most of the time, but he wouldnt trust the vender over 100 pissed off buyers.


Every new store needs to use third party escrow or simply dont use them, dont fall for this shit that is way cheaper than you can get it. It is only actually cheaper, if you actually get the product.

[UnderGod]

Ordered on 13/01, shipped on 16/01.
Last mail from them was on 17/02
This is the mail:

During the past days we checked at our mail carrier daily for your parcel. The procedure is: If the package is not delivered to the destination adress by any reason (except if the package is sealed at your mail carrier in your country, we never had any case in the past) it will be returned to us. When this happenes we are imediately re-sending the package by our own cost. This way we make sure that we offer a 100% guarantee that the product ordered will be delivered. However in this cases the shipping terms are very inconfortable. We encountered only a few of this cases during the past weeks. This is why we are now upgrading and changing the mail carrier, to prevent this inconvenient cases from happening in the future.

So as it stands: no cigarettes and no refund... Has anyone here that ordered in januari got their cigarettes?

[Raoul Duke]

No, we didn't get them. Time to shitlist them...

[TorrentMaster]

Ordered on 13/01, shipped on 16/01.
Last mail from them was on 17/02
This is the mail:

During the past days we checked at our mail carrier daily for your parcel. The procedure is: If the package is not delivered to the destination adress by any reason (except if the package is sealed at your mail carrier in your country, we never had any case in the past) it will be returned to us. When this happenes we are imediately re-sending the package by our own cost. This way we make sure that we offer a 100% guarantee that the product ordered will be delivered. However in this cases the shipping terms are very inconfortable. We encountered only a few of this cases during the past weeks. This is why we are now upgrading and changing the mail carrier, to prevent this inconvenient cases from happening in the future.

So as it stands: no cigarettes and no refund... Has anyone here that ordered in januari got their cigarettes?

I tried to order. PM the owner on here and asked what was taking so long for just the order verification. He told me it was do to "carrier" issues which is shipping and that I would be notified when they got it sorted.

I never sent bit coins since I never got a order confirmation with an address to send them too. I feel like I dodged a bullet on this one.

[Stephen Gornick]

If the site is still accepting orders then perhaps taking action to get them shut down is appropriate.

  - http://www.bitcoincigarettes.com

The site is hosted through KalyHost (owned by Tibanne, which owns Mt. Gox) so if anyone has proof that this site is still taking orders (i.e., sending out the e-mail with the bitcion address) then an appeal to KalyHost might be something to at least stop others from losing their money.

[UnderGod]

Well, I've put them on shitlist with a link to this thread.

[Bitcoin ShitList]

The owner might want to reply to the Shitlist post about his company.

http://bitcoin-shitlist.com/2012/02/24/bitcoincigarettes-com-scam/

Also would be good if the moderators marked the thread title with [SCAM] or something alike.

[rouhaud]

i have buy 3 pack of cigarettes in cigs.eu, and i received 1 pack they are 3 weeks, and today i received the 2 last packs, and in cigs.eu, they are more cheaps than bitcoincigarettes and the package have a number like recommander letter if you dont received your pack they can know where is your packs,
just one defaut, it's really long to received your cigarettes, me i passed my command the 26/01 and i received them today the 25/02/12

[TorrentMaster]

i have buy 3 pack of cigarettes in cigs.eu, and i received 1 pack they are 3 weeks, and today i received the 2 last packs, and in cigs.eu, they are more cheaps than bitcoincigarettes and the package have a number like recommander letter if you dont received your pack they can know where is your packs,
just one defaut, it's really long to received your cigarettes, me i passed my command the 26/01 and i received them today the 25/02/12

If you don't mind are you in the US?  Just wondering is that is normal ship time of a month if it's coming to the US.

[UnderGod]

Seeing his sig I guess he's from France, I'm from Belgium (country next to it). I've ordered earlier than him and haven't still received anything...
Weird that one guy now states he's got his package, but the thread starter is nowhere to be seen and doesn't answer his mails...

[TorrentMaster]

Seeing his sig I guess he's from France, I'm from Belgium (country next to it). I've ordered earlier than him and haven't still received anything...
Weird that one guy now states he's got his package, but the thread starter is nowhere to be seen and doesn't answer his mails...

the French guy ordered from cigs.eu

[BTC guy]

What country makes your smokes?

[hoki]

i have buy 3 pack of cigarettes in cigs.eu, and i received 1 pack they are 3 weeks, and today i received the 2 last packs, and in cigs.eu, they are more cheaps than bitcoincigarettes and the package have a number like recommander letter if you dont received your pack they can know where is your packs,
just one defaut, it's really long to received your cigarettes, me i passed my command the 26/01 and i received them today the 25/02/12

Thank you for your feedback and sorry for the delayed delivery! It doesn't always take that long.

If you don't mind are you in the US?  Just wondering is that is normal ship time of a month if it's coming to the US.

The order has been sent to France. The ship time to the US is similar (speedy delivery is not exactly our strong point). You can learn more about shipping here: http://www.cigs.eu/delivery_information

the French guy ordered from cigs.eu

Thanks for the clarification

What country makes your smokes?

If it is us you ask, it depends on the brand. As a general rule, they are all produced in Europe (Germany, Switzerland, Moldova, Ukraine, etc.)

[TorrentMaster]

If you don't mind are you in the US?  Just wondering is that is normal ship time of a month if it's coming to the US.

The order has been sent to France. The ship time to the US is similar (speedy delivery is not exactly our strong point). You can learn more about shipping here: http://www.cigs.eu/delivery_information

Checked out the site, is there no faster shipping option? A month is a very long time.

[hoki]

Checked out the site, is there no faster shipping option? A month is a very long time.

It is not necessarily one month - it just can last up to 4-5 weeks. Some of our customers received their orders in under one week. No alternative shipping option for now, sorry!

[TorrentMaster]

Checked out the site, is there no faster shipping option? A month is a very long time.

It is not necessarily one month - it just can last up to 4-5 weeks. Some of our customers received their orders in under one week. No alternative shipping option for now, sorry!

Thanks.

[Stephen Gornick]

Just made a purchase.

Just so that nobody glossing over this thread is confused.  You are describing your purchase on cigs.eu, which has its own thread here on this forum:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56981.0;all

There is still no resolution, apparently, to orders placed with BitcoinCigarettes.com (which is what this thread is for).

[TorrentMaster]

Just made a purchase.

Just so that nobody glossing over this thread is confused.  You are describing your purchase on cigs.eu, which has its own thread here on this forum:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56981.0;all

There is still no resolution, apparently, to orders placed with BitcoinCigarettes.com (which is what this thread is for).

Edited and posted in cigs.eu thread.

[Stephen Gornick]

Has it been long enough now that a scammer label to be given below the forum user profile icon?   The site is still up and still accepting orders.