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June 12, 2022, 09:01:35 PM
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It all depends on the kind of games we are trying to predict especially when it comes to sport where it is never easy to guess what the outcome could be. There are fixed games we can predict and everything will fall on same track based on how we have analysed it.

When we look at sports like football and other similar games we can see that some times we do have a fixed game and in most cases they are not fixed. The outcome of a game is not always predictable and things could go wrong anytime.

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June 12, 2022, 09:31:26 PM
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.
No matter how many years someone is into a particular it's hard for the person to detect if a certain game is fixed if you don't have an inside man who always knows what's going on in every game.
Most sports enthusiasts always detect games that are fixed when at halftime of the game.
 I am not used to horse racing but I believe game fixing happens in boxing and football. Besides, this is the major reason why boxing fights don't have hype and traffic like MMA fight

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June 12, 2022, 09:45:53 PM
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.
It is usually found in sports.
It is sometimes we went to wondering why they lose the games which in fact they are performing well in the first round quarter of the game. Although we don't have strong evidence to connect that issue, however, it can be put into our mind that there is something manipulation has been happening inside. We can't tell and nobody does, unless out from their mouth there is a leak.

But anyway, I don't think it hard. Maybe this really happens or not, it is eventually hard to prove. And instead of thinking about that scenario, we better enjoy the moment and place our bet on the team we think it would win.

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June 12, 2022, 11:58:06 PM
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I sometimes wonder if the match that I'll be watching will be a fixed match or not. There a lot sports that I've watched that feels like it's a fixed match for example is Basketball that has a 5 match program. You can easily guess that it will be a 3-2 game or a 4-1 game as you'll feel that the other team are really just throwing the game.

Can you still recall the basketball series that has the situation you have mentioned?

Believe me, it's hard to rig a game in a playoffs series especially if that is a professional league. There is always speculation but I think it's not totally rigged rather there's a case of bad officiating and wrong call. And if those are rigged, it should end at 4-3 compared to the examples you mentioned of 3-2 or 4-1.

The longer the series, the more revenue will come.

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June 13, 2022, 12:22:19 PM
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I sometimes wonder if the match that I'll be watching will be a fixed match or not. There a lot sports that I've watched that feels like it's a fixed match for example is Basketball that has a 5 match program. You can easily guess that it will be a 3-2 game or a 4-1 game as you'll feel that the other team are really just throwing the game.

Can you still recall the basketball series that has the situation you have mentioned?

Believe me, it's hard to rig a game in a playoffs series especially if that is a professional league. There is always speculation but I think it's not totally rigged rather there's a case of bad officiating and wrong call. And if those are rigged, it should end at 4-3 compared to the examples you mentioned of 3-2 or 4-1.

The longer the series, the more revenue will come.
Some people have great intuitions and they are good in predicting. They foresee what is coming up next.
Earlier there were lots of rumor that the matches are fixed - but now due to advancement of technology things are not obvious but yes sometime we predict that this is fixed.

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June 14, 2022, 09:24:41 AM
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I sometimes wonder if the match that I'll be watching will be a fixed match or not. There a lot sports that I've watched that feels like it's a fixed match for example is Basketball that has a 5 match program. You can easily guess that it will be a 3-2 game or a 4-1 game as you'll feel that the other team are really just throwing the game.

Can you still recall the basketball series that has the situation you have mentioned?

Believe me, it's hard to rig a game in a playoffs series especially if that is a professional league. There is always speculation but I think it's not totally rigged rather there's a case of bad officiating and wrong call. And if those are rigged, it should end at 4-3 compared to the examples you mentioned of 3-2 or 4-1.

The longer the series, the more revenue will come.

More on that side, if there's are facilitators to rigged that kind of series, I'm sure they will aimed for longer series as they can suck more money out from each game that they are facilitating, we can only speculate but there's no way that we can prove it, even there are rumors that being exposed on the social media outlets, the league officiating can manage to fix or hide it, not saying with any proof just an opinion.

Game fixing is always part of any sports in terms of rumors activities, but proving it is something that is really tough to expose.

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June 15, 2022, 08:48:54 PM
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More on that side, if there's are facilitators to rigged that kind of series, I'm sure they will aimed for longer series as they can suck more money out from each game that they are facilitating, we can only speculate but there's no way that we can prove it, even there are rumors that being exposed on the social media outlets, the league officiating can manage to fix or hide it, not saying with any proof just an opinion.

Game fixing is always part of any sports in terms of rumors activities, but proving it is something that is really tough to expose.

I have a very poor farsightedness. Everytime I make a guess and give my bet. I loose - I lose terribly.
SO I no longer bet now. ANd no I cannot tell whether the match is fixed or not.

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More on that side, if there's are facilitators to rigged that kind of series, I'm sure they will aimed for longer series as they can suck more money out from each game that they are facilitating, we can only speculate but there's no way that we can prove it, even there are rumors that being exposed on the social media outlets, the league officiating can manage to fix or hide it, not saying with any proof just an opinion.

Game fixing is always part of any sports in terms of rumors activities, but proving it is something that is really tough to expose.

I have a very poor farsightedness. Everytime I make a guess and give my bet. I loose - I lose terribly.
SO I no longer bet now. ANd no I cannot tell whether the match is fixed or not.
On games that have a wide area plus its on big field to be held then it would really be somewhat understandable that you do need that good eyesight for you to enjoy the game
unless if your tickets are on the nearest seat then it would be good for you to look at but if not then i do much prefer on seeing everything on videos but we
know that its totally different experience when you are there.

Telling if the fight is fixed or not? Hard to tell but on todays tech and social media then having  these kind of match fixing is really hard to be played on
yet people could notice somethings weird happening.

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June 15, 2022, 09:58:45 PM
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Telling if the fight is fixed or not? Hard to tell but on todays tech and social media then having  these kind of match fixing is really hard to be played on
yet people could notice somethings weird happening.

Aside from that, players are not that dumb to just sacrifice and risks their respective career for the sake of money in exchange for participating in a game-fixing.

As far as most fixed-games scenarios are concerned, it's the officiating who is always in charge for doing attempting to change the flow of the game as not all players will ruin their career for that. Since officiating can be manipulated that leads to a possible game-fixing scenario.

But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

They are professional and the trust of the people is where the revenues came from.

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June 15, 2022, 10:58:09 PM
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Telling if the fight is fixed or not? Hard to tell but on todays tech and social media then having  these kind of match fixing is really hard to be played on
yet people could notice somethings weird happening.

Aside from that, players are not that dumb to just sacrifice and risks their respective career for the sake of money in exchange for participating in a game-fixing.

As far as most fixed-games scenarios are concerned, it's the officiating who is always in charge for doing attempting to change the flow of the game as not all players will ruin their career for that. Since officiating can be manipulated that leads to a possible game-fixing scenario.

But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

They are professional and the trust of the people is where the revenues came from.
Match fixing is still there but not into those leagues or competition which do really able to be seen on bigger audience.Lets say that this one doesnt talk about those players participating but rather on the decisions
made by referees or total scoreboard or something like this then its impossible for the masses not to witness on whats happening or there's something wrong with this.

So i dont believe that it would really be that rampant now but much sure in small leagues or local games then this might happen but for bigger ones then it is almost close to impossible but there
would be always some chances.

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June 15, 2022, 11:05:20 PM
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So i dont believe that it would really be that rampant now but much sure in small leagues or local games then this might happen but for bigger ones then it is almost close to impossible but there
would be always some chances.
I reckon, in smaller and unpopular leagues. These can happen but in the bigger ones, I doubt that they even want to do it. They don't want any controversy that will be attached to them just because of this.
The bigger leagues in any sporting event won't do this, people probably would still believe in those mafias, I guess they're for real and still there but if ever they'll do it, we'll barely notice that the game is part of the rig.

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So i dont believe that it would really be that rampant now but much sure in small leagues or local games then this might happen but for bigger ones then it is almost close to impossible but there
would be always some chances.

Small leagues are still professional. I doubt it mostly happened there. But for local games, it's possible but it's the referees who are controlling the game. I just can't wonder why in the local league, a rigged should happen. There's not much money circulating in small local games. Too small that they can't even think of rigging the game.

For example here in our place where there's a yearly basketball competition. Referees are sometimes sucked on their officiating and most of us think that a game-fixing is happening because they are always calling several fouls against our team. Not being biased but it's clear as the sky that a live cooking show is taking place and only noob won't think it's not.
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Once recently in the Colombian soccer league, one team gave a lot of money to the other to let them win, and the worst thing is that in the middle of the game when the player had the ball, the other players did not hide anything and let the goal was scored in a very stupid way, this was something that came to FIFA and from then on they made him give a big sanction to those teams, that was a world scandal and everyone in the Colombian soccer league put the magnifying glass on him because the football cannot become such a brazen business, the corruption at that time reached the gamers themselves, it really looked very bad, that was the only time I saw a fixed game.

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June 16, 2022, 05:10:38 PM
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So i dont believe that it would really be that rampant now but much sure in small leagues or local games then this might happen but for bigger ones then it is almost close to impossible but there
would be always some chances.
I reckon, in smaller and unpopular leagues. These can happen but in the bigger ones, I doubt that they even want to do it. They don't want any controversy that will be attached to them just because of this.
The bigger leagues in any sporting event won't do this, people probably would still believe in those mafias, I guess they're for real and still there but if ever they'll do it, we'll barely notice that the game is part of the rig.

There were rumors that Lebron was threatened by the so-called 'mafia' to throw the game in 2017 due to his rather lackluster performance against the GSW. I don't buy it. It's just that the Warriors were undeniably unstoppable during those season and that most of the players from the Cavaliers were tired and kind of restless. It is not impossible for major games to be fixed. It's just that we will not know that other people already know the outcome because it was already decided a few games even before the championship games start.

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June 16, 2022, 08:26:50 PM
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Perhaps there was more match-fixing when technology was not common than now. We can't know this but in the current situation at least with the help of technology, match-fixing events may have been minimized. In addition, there is a fact called the match-fixing economy. I think you have a huge economic power. We don't know what's going on at the back door.
Match fixing always have the price, its more easy to have this if both parties are willing to participate and yes the technology also one of the reason why is this happening and seriously they also know how to adopt. I believe there are more match fixing in boxing since it only involves two boxer and its easy to throw the match on boxing. In other sports, you can also have this some is not easy to tell if its fixed or not but sometimes its obvious.
Without a doubt it is easier to fix a match in which a single individual is facing another than those in which  a whole team needs to be convinced about throwing the game way, so sports like boxing and tennis are perfect for those that like to fix matches, however this does not mean that team sports are exempt of this, as we have seen many examples of this in the past, and those are only the cases we know something about, and it is very likely there are many more undisclosed cases we have never hear about.
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Without a doubt it is easier to fix a match in which a single individual is facing another than those in which  a whole team needs to be convinced about throwing the game way, so sports like boxing and tennis are perfect for those that like to fix matches, however this does not mean that team sports are exempt of this, as we have seen many examples of this in the past, and those are only the cases we know something about, and it is very likely there are many more undisclosed cases we have never hear about.
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

I don't really think that there is a sure way to see as a spectator if the outcome of a match is fixed or not. In general i think that is is way harder to fix matches where to teams are competing because in order to fix such a match you basically have to bribe the majority of at least one team which is just way to expensive probably and also way to dangerous because the more people that are involved the higher the chance that someone is talking and everything becomes public.
I think sports like boxing, martial arts or others where you only have two athletes involved are way easier to fix. Of course match fixing is a horrible thing and i hate everyone that does that.
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Perhaps there was more match-fixing when technology was not common than now. We can't know this but in the current situation at least with the help of technology, match-fixing events may have been minimized. In addition, there is a fact called the match-fixing economy. I think you have a huge economic power. We don't know what's going on at the back door.
Match fixing always have the price, its more easy to have this if both parties are willing to participate and yes the technology also one of the reason why is this happening and seriously they also know how to adopt. I believe there are more match fixing in boxing since it only involves two boxer and its easy to throw the match on boxing. In other sports, you can also have this some is not easy to tell if its fixed or not but sometimes its obvious.

These days a fixed match is hard to point out even though we see some signs but we cannot totally prove it, that said, I bet that is still happening in some sports, either if it's football, horseracing, dart, or other sports but we certainly don't have intel about that because that information is only shared in closed and higher management. I agree, fixing a match now might be hard because of the improved technology.

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I believe there are more match fixing in boxing since it only involves two boxer and its easy to throw the match on boxing.
I find this hard to believe especially in the upper tier where boxers are really carving their names in the industry to have a legacy before they retire. Maybe in the lower-tier where boxers are starting to create hype in their name, that said, there was a rumor that Jake Paul-Tyron Woodley fight was rigged and there are some videos that could somehow point out that it's rigged.
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June 18, 2022, 08:59:27 PM
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But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

They are professional and the trust of the people is where the revenues came from.

Indeed they are professional players but their higher-up is a professional businessman.  Grin

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June 18, 2022, 09:26:14 PM
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There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

I think it makes no sense to have a judge involved in the conspiracy, because if his decisions are obviously unfair, it will cause a scandal. Usually, fixed games take place in sports where not teams but individual players compete - table tennis, tennis, chess, etc. Unexpected results can be explained here by many logical reasons such as poor form or microtrauma.

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