Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ?

[mm2543363580]

There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

I think it makes no sense to have a judge involved in the conspiracy, because if his decisions are obviously unfair, it will cause a scandal. Usually, fixed games take place in sports where not teams but individual players compete - table tennis, tennis, chess, etc. Unexpected results can be explained here by many logical reasons such as poor form or microtrauma.

earlier when there was less technology - people were very sure to tell. The matches are fixed. But now even the players have become smarts and know ways to do the stuff. Now it is hard to tell if it is fixed or not. However I am not much smart to judge it.

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[Boristhecat]

These days a fixed match is hard to point out even though we see some signs but we cannot totally prove it, that said, I bet that is still happening in some sports, either if it's football, horseracing, dart, or other sports but we certainly don't have intel about that because that information is only shared in closed and higher management. I agree, fixing a match now might be hard because of the improved technology.

There have always been problems with proving that the game was fixed, and you need to understand that this is a very sensitive area where you can unfairly accuse the innocent, so you need ironclad evidence like a video recording of the agreement and the fact of the transfer of money. For example, in tennis, player A bets on player B (who is an outsider) and loses the game to him. Can we accuse Player B of collusion? After all, he may or may not be involved in a dishonest game. You need hard evidence to make a judgment.

[harizen]

But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

All sports are easy to fix if aggressively will force the plan to execute but if we are talking about professional big leagues, that fixing is hard to execute. It's hard to rig a game with only officiating, referees, or judges as a participant. To make rigged games successfully, players themselves should also take part in them which I doubt will happen mostly in high leagues.

If you talk about boxing, if the result is really questionable, there are instances that it will be subject to an investigation and reversal of the results.

Indeed they are professional players but their higher-up is a professional businessman. 

Even if that's the case, professional players take care of their status. No mafia or higher-ups can influence them. That will result in the permanent removal of their status as a player and maybe, a lifetime ban from participating again in any sports.

[mm2543363580]

Even if that's the case, professional players take care of their status. No mafia or higher-ups can influence them. That will result in the permanent removal of their status as a player and maybe, a lifetime ban from participating again in any sports.

That is correct - MAfia has their own role to play - even if there are strict rules about them- they will find the ways to make the black money white.
However talking about the OP - I cannot make a guess. Every time I did that in the past. I lost miserably so I decided not to do it anytime sooner.

[boltz]

You always have a sensation that some games might be fixed but do we have any proof ? No , we don't. Why ? Because sometimes , strange things happens without any giving reason or at least this is my conclusion.

I hardly doubt that big professional players are playing in the mafia side and doing rigged games as there is no point to ruin your career for extra money because in the end, stories will get up on surface and world will find out , so I think this is not possible anymore during our times. I do think some e-sports games are rigged from time to time or players are losing focus in key points of the games...could be both but again , no proofs on this.

Also , there is an entire Netflix documentary about this so you might check that out.

[carlisle1]

These days a fixed match is hard to point out even though we see some signs but we cannot totally prove it, that said, I bet that is still happening in some sports, either if it's football, horseracing, dart, or other sports but we certainly don't have intel about that because that information is only shared in closed and higher management. I agree, fixing a match now might be hard because of the improved technology.

There have always been problems with proving that the game was fixed, and you need to understand that this is a very sensitive area where you can unfairly accuse the innocent, so you need ironclad evidence like a video recording of the agreement and the fact of the transfer of money. For example, in tennis, player A bets on player B (who is an outsider) and loses the game to him. Can we accuse Player B of collusion? After all, he may or may not be involved in a dishonest game. You need hard evidence to make a judgment.

Accusing is something and proving is another thing, in this case you can simply provide your opinion if you are thinking that the game was rigged,

But, do you have any proofs that you can show about your claim? if there's none then it will only fall to your own sentiment.

There's nothing but only allegations that will keep linger inside you especially if you bet and you are already claiming that the team

or player that you are supporting have an upper hand against their opponent, once you lose that match you'll think that the kind

of game was fixed.

[Silberman]

You always have a sensation that some games might be fixed but do we have any proof ? No , we don't. Why ? Because sometimes , strange things happens without any giving reason or at least this is my conclusion.

I hardly doubt that big professional players are playing in the mafia side and doing rigged games as there is no point to ruin your career for extra money because in the end, stories will get up on surface and world will find out , so I think this is not possible anymore during our times. I do think some e-sports games are rigged from time to time or players are losing focus in key points of the games...could be both but again , no proofs on this.

Also , there is an entire Netflix documentary about this so you might check that out.

While difficult, to think that rigging games is impossible is to go too far, we must not forget that we are talking about big time criminals and not some small fish, which means that I would not be surprised that if instead of using incentives like money they used threats against the players in order to get them to throw the game away, as such a threat will be way more effective than the use of money as professional athletes earn a lot of money already.

[Oasisman]

But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

Not as easy when people are starting to doubt that. Without the player's cooperation it would become too obvious of a thing.
Let's say If a boxing judge is trying rig the match, he would become very obvious on the results on his score card which will automatically contradicts on the other 2 judges, especially when there is a huge difference in scoring the match.
Now, for basketball if the referee is trying to rig the game, his calls might be too obvious as well especially during crunch time where referees decisions are very critical.

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

[Plaguedeath]

Let's say If a boxing judge is trying rig the match, he would become very obvious on the results on his score card which will automatically contradicts on the other 2 judges, especially when there is a huge difference in scoring the match.
Now, for basketball if the referee is trying to rig the game, his calls might be too obvious as well especially during crunch time where referees decisions are very critical.

Did the rigged match turn out to be fair match after someone discover the suspicious activity of the judge/referee? I doubt it is, almost of the match end to be like that and the winner aren't changed. They wouldn't care until a big names talking about the case and make an appeal of his judgement.

[Distinctin]

You always have a sensation that some games might be fixed but do we have any proof ? No , we don't. Why ? Because sometimes , strange things happens without any giving reason or at least this is my conclusion.

I hardly doubt that big professional players are playing in the mafia side and doing rigged games as there is no point to ruin your career for extra money because in the end, stories will get up on surface and world will find out , so I think this is not possible anymore during our times. I do think some e-sports games are rigged from time to time or players are losing focus in key points of the games...could be both but again , no proofs on this.

Also , there is an entire Netflix documentary about this so you might check that out.

Right, it's quite easy to speculate that this certain game is rigged or fixed especially if there's a player we know that could really make that shot or goal yet he didn't. But surely we cannot prove it, sometimes what we felt was just a baseless hunch.

In the old times, we can say for sure that there was someone with a big brain behind the scenes rigging games and that happens frequently as we don't have the technology to provide evidence at that time yet. But as of these days? I'm not sure though but I'm sure that it won't happen frequently.

[Fortify]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

The higher you get up the professional sporting leagues, the less chance you are to encounter someone who will be match fixing. It's not impossible, but people tend to get compensated better (which can be huge depending on the sport) and there is a lot more scrutiny of their play, which makes it harder to engage in such abuse. From the few pieces I've seen about it, when journalists have caught people out, it tends to be more obscure events that they try to capitalize on - like getting a red card at a certain point of play. This can make the people placing such bets stand out because it will be highly suspicious to the bookmaker who will be scrutinizing all large payouts and a large payout is required to make the risk worthwhile. Stick to the biggest teams/players and you're more likely to avoid such cheating.

[Lanatsa]

But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

Not as easy when people are starting to doubt that. Without the player's cooperation it would become too obvious of a thing.
Let's say If a boxing judge is trying rig the match, he would become very obvious on the results on his score card which will automatically contradicts on the other 2 judges, especially when there is a huge difference in scoring the match.
Now, for basketball if the referee is trying to rig the game, his calls might be too obvious as well especially during crunch time where referees decisions are very critical.

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

Something off or odd that happens will raises up some questions and when those doubts had been justified out then involved teams and people behind those fixing will really be facing up some charges and violations.Some people been saying that everything might be not that possible nowadays but we couldn't really make out some conclusion because match fixing had been here and something that couldn't be surprising thing.

[harizen]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

And to some PH basketball enthusiasts out there, if you remember the rigged games that happen in the local league here, fixing the game was done successfully and smoothly because players and coaching staff cooperate on it. No need for referees to do some double works to make the game rigged.

Unfortunately, that rigged game was too obvious and all involved individuals faced the wrath of the law.

Should be a good example for those who will still attempt to fix the match. It was heavily condemned here because instead of being thankful that these players, coaches, and staff still has a job even under pandemic, they still do shitty things that are not acceptable.

[Silberman]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

And to some PH basketball enthusiasts out there, if you remember the rigged games that happen in the local league here, fixing the game was done successfully and smoothly because players and coaching staff cooperate on it. No need for referees to do some double works to make the game rigged.

Unfortunately, that rigged game was too obvious and all involved individuals faced the wrath of the law.

Should be a good example for those who will still attempt to fix the match. It was heavily condemned here because instead of being thankful that these players, coaches, and staff still has a job even under pandemic, they still do shitty things that are not acceptable.

I have always thought that anyone that was caught fixing games should be banned forever from the sport, some may think this is exaggerated but I do not think so, they damage the sport to the point the credibility of it is put into question, and if enough people get discouraged by this then it is likely they will lose a massive amount of fans due to the scandal, so in order to prevent that it is better to punish those which fixed the games as harshly as possible.

[passwordnow]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

It's totally difficult and sometimes we suspect games that have been rigged because we bet for the losing team. And that makes us think that the game is unacceptable because we're wrong with our bets or with the teams that we're supporting.
Out of frustration, we're thinking that there's magic with the result even though it's visible and clear that there's no cheat, no rig but just pure game and the winning team deserves it. This is the thought and mindset that we have when we can't accept defeat.

[stadus]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

It's totally difficult and sometimes we suspect games that have been rigged because we bet for the losing team. And that makes us think that the game is unacceptable because we're wrong with our bets or with the teams that we're supporting.
Out of frustration, we're thinking that there's magic with the result even though it's visible and clear that there's no cheat, no rig but just pure game and the winning team deserves it. This is the thought and mindset that we have when we can't accept defeat.

Well, oftentimes, that's also the case but sometimes we may doubt something about the game because there are these instances that a player could've produced more numbers or either they can make that shot/goal but it didn't happen and it resulted to a loss in our side as that's where we gambled. But if we look closely, they are also human beings who could make some errors along the way.

[bittraffic]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

And to some PH basketball enthusiasts out there, if you remember the rigged games that happen in the local league here, fixing the game was done successfully and smoothly because players and coaching staff cooperate on it. No need for referees to do some double works to make the game rigged.

Unfortunately, that rigged game was too obvious and all involved individuals faced the wrath of the law.

Should be a good example for those who will still attempt to fix the match. It was heavily condemned here because instead of being thankful that these players, coaches, and staff still has a job even under pandemic, they still do shitty things that are not acceptable.

I have always thought that anyone that was caught fixing games should be banned forever from the sport, some may think this is exaggerated but I do not think so, they damage the sport to the point the credibility of it is put into question, and if enough people get discouraged by this then it is likely they will lose a massive amount of fans due to the scandal, so in order to prevent that it is better to punish those which fixed the games as harshly as possible.

I always thought fixing match means they conspire with the opponent and they do some fake knockouts but seem easy to spot this kind of fix game. But this kind of corruption is much deeper since its the sports organization itself is making it which the athlete themselves have no knowledge the fight is fixed. Which a champ athlete with a declining wining rate is matched to a newly rising athlete to make money from the crowd and the bookies too.

[passwordnow]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

It's totally difficult and sometimes we suspect games that have been rigged because we bet for the losing team. And that makes us think that the game is unacceptable because we're wrong with our bets or with the teams that we're supporting.
Out of frustration, we're thinking that there's magic with the result even though it's visible and clear that there's no cheat, no rig but just pure game and the winning team deserves it. This is the thought and mindset that we have when we can't accept defeat.

Well, oftentimes, that's also the case but sometimes we may doubt something about the game because there are these instances that a player could've produced more numbers or either they can make that shot/goal but it didn't happen and it resulted to a loss in our side as that's where we gambled. But if we look closely, they are also human beings who could make some errors along the way.

It does really happens that we think that it's a fixed match or game but we're also wrong with it. That intuition of us tells us that we're right with what we suspect.
But in reality, you have no proof to back that feeling of yours and that's a problem if you can't prove and you're just feeling it that it's been rigged.

[dataispower]

Sometimes I van stop to wonder how the outcome of the final result of games, I have had hard match-fixing before but I can't tell if that is possible in all games. Sports games can easily be predicted and what makes them predictable will make room for some sort of fixing any way their all gamble the outcome is always based on luck.

the only process whereby sport them can be predictable is because it is a game or performance what is visualised by everyone so constant viewing of the game will enable you to determine or predict correctly or accurately for a particular group or a particular seat that will defeat each other because of what you have observed during their past event so that is different, and secondly I agree with you that it is a game of luck because a particular group can perform absolutely better for this present game why in second term or second round due to the Futuring of the game it will not be strong like their previous setup that made You to predict that definitely they will win because of it initial performance

[mm2543363580]

Sometimes I van stop to wonder how the outcome of the final result of games, I have had hard match-fixing before but I can't tell if that is possible in all games. Sports games can easily be predicted and what makes them predictable will make room for some sort of fixing any way their all gamble the outcome is always based on luck.

the only process whereby sport them can be predictable is because it is a game or performance what is visualised by everyone so constant viewing of the game will enable you to determine or predict correctly or accurately for a particular group or a particular seat that will defeat each other because of what you have observed during their past event so that is different, and secondly I agree with you that it is a game of luck because a particular group can perform absolutely better for this present game why in second term or second round due to the Futuring of the game it will not be strong like their previous setup that made You to predict that definitely they will win because of it initial performance

Now it is not easy to make guesses weather the match is fixed or not. Earlier it was easy to decide.
Now with the advancement of technology - everyone has got smarter. Even the bookie too.