Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ?

[agustina2]

Now in the modern world - thing are more covered up there are new techniques and ways for the match fixing. But I am sure every big game has a big game behind it. To me almost every match if not approx 80% matches are fixed. Do you agree?

No. Big games are most watched. There is high money at stake here making it critical to be involved in a match-fixing.

Big games and matches are also recognized by most people around the world and I doubt something fishy will happen here. They won't ruin their reputation for that. Their fans are the reason why they are getting profits.

If we are talking about local leagues or small leagues, maybe there are a few cases of game-fixing but it's not 80%. That was too much.

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[bitgov]

Now in the modern world - thing are more covered up there are new techniques and ways for the match fixing. But I am sure every big game has a big game behind it. To me almost every match if not approx 80% matches are fixed. Do you agree?

No. Big games are most watched. There is high money at stake here making it critical to be involved in a match-fixing.

Big games and matches are also recognized by most people around the world and I doubt something fishy will happen here. They won't ruin their reputation for that. Their fans are the reason why they are getting profits.

If we are talking about local leagues or small leagues, maybe there are a few cases of game-fixing but it's not 80%. That was too much.

I too believe most big games have big money behind. And surly most of the bookie would try to buy the players as well. But again now players are more concerned about their reputation and career they would like to stay clean and neutral because sooner of later the secret is out.

[stadus]

I cannot really say if that's somehow true but who knows, right? I just think that your figure is quite high considering that it is a big game, I think it's just 40% or lower than that but that specific games doesn't much require crowd or large group of spectators because rigging big leagues or big games is really risky for them as they know that there would be lots of organizations who will watch it. That said, bets on that specific game are also soaring high, so that's why they can't just risk their motive with that kind of games.

The recent match between India and England. I think that match was fixed.
Both the team looked so lousy on the field. And rather it appeared England is going to win the match very easily and the end was different all together.

Wait, what sport or league are we talking here? I'm not sure if I did follow but I think I'll just leave that to you whatever that is and I'm confident that you quite know the sports well to have that kind of speculation. Hopefully that's not a big league because I'm confident that big league games aren't easy to get fixed, you need to have huge guts to consider fixing huge leagues which is by the way spectated by thousands to millions of people.

[bitgov]

Wait, what sport or league are we talking here? I'm not sure if I did follow but I think I'll just leave that to you whatever that is and I'm confident that you quite know the sports well to have that kind of speculation. Hopefully that's not a big league because I'm confident that big league games aren't easy to get fixed, you need to have huge guts to consider fixing huge leagues which is by the way spectated by thousands to millions of people.

Life is very fast these days - people just watch and give their opinions on it.
But I believe most of the big games are fixed .. like there were so many miscalculation and cheating which was done in World Cup qualifying round.

[Smartprofit]

I cannot really say if that's somehow true but who knows, right? I just think that your figure is quite high considering that it is a big game, I think it's just 40% or lower than that but that specific games doesn't much require crowd or large group of spectators because rigging big leagues or big games is really risky for them as they know that there would be lots of organizations who will watch it. That said, bets on that specific game are also soaring high, so that's why they can't just risk their motive with that kind of games.

The recent match between India and England. I think that match was fixed.
Both the team looked so lousy on the field. And rather it appeared England is going to win the match very easily and the end was different all together.

Perhaps I am an idealist, but it seems to me that sports competitions between different countries are fair sports competitions. 

Each country strives to look better compared to other countries.  And the easiest way to achieve this is to win in sports.  Victory in sports is part of the country's positive image.  In my opinion, contractual (fictitious) matches are more common when different clubs compete.  In this situation, corruption and the desire to make money often take place. 

When different countries compete with each other, then fictitious (fixed) matches happen much less frequently.

[sovie]

Perhaps I am an idealist, but it seems to me that sports competitions between different countries are fair sports competitions. 

Each country strives to look better compared to other countries.  And the easiest way to achieve this is to win in sports.  Victory in sports is part of the country's positive image.  In my opinion, contractual (fictitious) matches are more common when different clubs compete.  In this situation, corruption and the desire to make money often take place. 

When different countries compete with each other, then fictitious (fixed) matches happen much less frequently.

That's is very correct " victory in sports is part of country's positive" image and that is how the sportsman or an athlete lift the image of their country.
I m not sure about the players fixing matches - but one or the other players may do that. Also - there is a big gambling bets and games behind the games. That is for sure.

[noormcs5]

I cannot really say if that's somehow true but who knows, right? I just think that your figure is quite high considering that it is a big game, I think it's just 40% or lower than that but that specific games doesn't much require crowd or large group of spectators because rigging big leagues or big games is really risky for them as they know that there would be lots of organizations who will watch it. That said, bets on that specific game are also soaring high, so that's why they can't just risk their motive with that kind of games.

The recent match between India and England. I think that match was fixed.
Both the team looked so lousy on the field. And rather it appeared England is going to win the match very easily and the end was different all together.

India scored 198 runs in the first innings so how does it looks that England can win this match easily?

I don't think this match was fixed and if you see teams taking the match lightly also does not guarantee that this match was fixed. Usually, it is difficult to track whether the match is fixed or not when both strong teams are playing the match.

[AicecreaME]

Wait, what sport or league are we talking here? I'm not sure if I did follow but I think I'll just leave that to you whatever that is and I'm confident that you quite know the sports well to have that kind of speculation. Hopefully that's not a big league because I'm confident that big league games aren't easy to get fixed, you need to have huge guts to consider fixing huge leagues which is by the way spectated by thousands to millions of people.

Life is very fast these days - people just watch and give their opinions on it.
But I believe most of the big games are fixed .. like there were so many miscalculation and cheating which was done in World Cup qualifying round.

I doubt there is a fixed matching happening in big games because those matches are holding a lot of money. We aren't talking about small amount of money at stake here, but a big fund and the reputation of the players or teams as well which cannot be paired and bought by money. These teams are playing because they have supporters believing in them. They are the reason why they are popular and enjoying the place they are already at as well as its privileges. The trust of the people is what makes them going as well as the pride and satisfaction they get in winning every match. So no, I don't think there is a fixed big games.

I think the fixed games and win trading is common in local matches only. Those small games usually contain fixed matches because they couldn't care less about reputation or support because they don't have much most especially those held in small areas and are only organized by the common people. They are mostly just after money. Not all, but certainly there is fixed matches happening in small scale areas because it won't be closely monitored compared to big matches.

[mm2543363580]

I doubt there is a fixed matching happening in big games because those matches are holding a lot of money. We aren't talking about small amount of money at stake here, but a big fund and the reputation of the players or teams as well which cannot be paired and bought by money. These teams are playing because they have supporters believing in them. They are the reason why they are popular and enjoying the place they are already at as well as its privileges. The trust of the people is what makes them going as well as the pride and satisfaction they get in winning every match. So no, I don't think there is a fixed big games.

I think the fixed games and win trading is common in local matches only. Those small games usually contain fixed matches because they couldn't care less about reputation or support because they don't have much most especially those held in small areas and are only organized by the common people. They are mostly just after money. Not all, but certainly there is fixed matches happening in small scale areas because it won't be closely monitored compared to big matches.

You have a valid point here - many big leagues can't be fixed - but did you happen to watch some world cup finals - the fixed thing is not the whole match - but one ball - which can be a no ball and the batsman would hit a sixer to change the game although - not the whole team is involved but one player or two.  But whatever it is - players are more conscious these day to stay away from this kind of stuff.

[Fredomago]

Wait, what sport or league are we talking here? I'm not sure if I did follow but I think I'll just leave that to you whatever that is and I'm confident that you quite know the sports well to have that kind of speculation. Hopefully that's not a big league because I'm confident that big league games aren't easy to get fixed, you need to have huge guts to consider fixing huge leagues which is by the way spectated by thousands to millions of people.

Other things that needed to consider if we are talking about big leagues, there are many people who watching it and a single suspicious moves can result to further reviews, while with minor leagues there're no arguments that game fixing is for real, not saying that the kind of business is not present inside big leagues but like what you said it takes a big guts and a lot of money to facilitate.

And also, even there're some talks or rumors about big leagues, it will remain rumors until there's someone who's being proven guilt

with the kind of action, inside sports gambling.

[vennali]

NBA matches seems fixed a few times, not by the players itself maybe but, by the refs. There have been a few scandals regarding the same, in which one of them lead to an NBA ref being put behind bars. Few playoff games feel rigged as they throw the narrative completely off guard. It is very hard to prove it though and NBA refs making calls can also be called subjective but some of them are very blatant. I see a lot more fixed matches in eSports scene. Its mostly young kids trying to turn professional. Much easier to corrupt by the gambling sharks as well. China, Russian region playing smaller division games, they always seem rigged, especially when it comes to Dota2.

[milewilda]

NBA matches seems fixed a few times, not by the players itself maybe but, by the refs. There have been a few scandals regarding the same, in which one of them lead to an NBA ref being put behind bars. Few playoff games feel rigged as they throw the narrative completely off guard. It is very hard to prove it though and NBA refs making calls can also be called subjective but some of them are very blatant. I see a lot more fixed matches in eSports scene. Its mostly young kids trying to turn professional. Much easier to corrupt by the gambling sharks as well. China, Russian region playing smaller division games, they always seem rigged, especially when it comes to Dota2.

As a dota2 player then there are lots of rigged games but of course as a result its really that penalized and i could say that determining and finding out rigged matches are much more easier
to spot out on online world rather than on physical ones and its not really that deniable.We cant really that tell and even if we do able to see and notice it then as regular fan or people
then what are the things that we can do? Yes, we can observed and definitely tell that those calls are shits specially on NBA refs which it would really be that obvious once they do
make out bad calls which us fans could determine whether its a right one or not but there are indeed times which calls are really that off which you could really make yourself
that too reactive whenever they do made those.

[vennali]

NBA matches seems fixed a few times, not by the players itself maybe but, by the refs. There have been a few scandals regarding the same, in which one of them lead to an NBA ref being put behind bars. Few playoff games feel rigged as they throw the narrative completely off guard. It is very hard to prove it though and NBA refs making calls can also be called subjective but some of them are very blatant. I see a lot more fixed matches in eSports scene. Its mostly young kids trying to turn professional. Much easier to corrupt by the gambling sharks as well. China, Russian region playing smaller division games, they always seem rigged, especially when it comes to Dota2.

As a dota2 player then there are lots of rigged games but of course as a result its really that penalized and i could say that determining and finding out rigged matches are much more easier
to spot out on online world rather than on physical ones and its not really that deniable.We cant really that tell and even if we do able to see and notice it then as regular fan or people
then what are the things that we can do? Yes, we can observed and definitely tell that those calls are shits specially on NBA refs which it would really be that obvious once they do
make out bad calls which us fans could determine whether its a right one or not but there are indeed times which calls are really that off which you could really make yourself
that too reactive whenever they do made those.

eSports in general has a ton of scandals. Every eSport and its not hard to look into it. A simple google search you can find out. The lower division matches that are pretty much always rigged are the ones nobody really cares about. I only have it running in the background while I'm doing simple tasks on my PC and the decisions that they make are very questionable. They arent punished because nobody really cares about them. There are a few divisions, where people dont even know who's really playing those matches. With that I mean, the teams constantly change players who are completely unknown.

Couple years ago, a caster who's been in the scene for a long long time mentioned that Match fixing in Dota2 is far more rampant than people realize. Also said that 70% of the teams from South East Asia would be under the scanner if they took the matter seriously.

[agustina2]

Couple years ago, a caster who's been in the scene for a long long time mentioned that Match fixing in Dota2 is far more rampant than people realize. Also said that 70% of the teams from South East Asia would be under the scanner if they took the matter seriously.

I agree with you that it's possible and rigging in E-sports, especially under the MOBA category, is easy to rig especially in a local or small competition.

But I personally doubt it will always be the case in the international E-sports league. These are heavily moderated and strict

The big event is between different countries, how can a rigged match will happened there? How is it possible to participate in a fixed match there?

[Smartprofit]

Esports is a relatively young sport. 

Esports was created by young enthusiasts and quickly grew into a huge gaming industry. 

At the same time, the current generation is determined to achieve success.  And above all, it is monetary (financial) success. 

The example of popular bloggers shows that they make a deal with their conscience for the sake of additional monetary rewards.  Unfortunately, this happens quite often. 

Therefore, I will not be surprised if I find out that there are a lot of contractual (fictitious) matches in the esports industry. 

Although, of course, spectators and fans expect a fair game from eSports.

[Fredomago]

Esports is a relatively young sport. 

Esports was created by young enthusiasts and quickly grew into a huge gaming industry. 

At the same time, the current generation is determined to achieve success.  And above all, it is monetary (financial) success. 

The example of popular bloggers shows that they make a deal with their conscience for the sake of additional monetary rewards.  Unfortunately, this happens quite often. 

Therefore, I will not be surprised if I find out that there are a lot of contractual (fictitious) matches in the esports industry. 

Although, of course, spectators and fans expect a fair game from eSports.

Not by far to happen, I mean due to money involve and the game is more controllable and with the same capacity of possible competitor game fixing is not easy to predict inside this sport. Though like you, I'm also hoping that those people behind won't be attract with the money and allow this with this rising E-Sport, having a fair conclusion of the game is what the fans are aiming to see and not something that questionable after the game.

[GiftedMAN]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our minds, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

Yes, I can assume that a match is fixed based on the performance of the team especially if it happens to be a well-known team with good players playing against a team that has fewer quality players or a team that is in poor form. Using football as an example, when a big team with an odd of 1.20  is playing against a smaller team that has an odd of 30.25 is playing a football match when the big team is having all the possessions when the team has created so many goals scoring chances but fails to put any goal at the back of the net even when the team is awarded a penalty, it is obvious that the game is fixed to end as a draw since the small club can not score.

[maydna]

Esports is a relatively young sport. 

Esports was created by young enthusiasts and quickly grew into a huge gaming industry. 

At the same time, the current generation is determined to achieve success.  And above all, it is monetary (financial) success. 

The example of popular bloggers shows that they make a deal with their conscience for the sake of additional monetary rewards.  Unfortunately, this happens quite often. 

Therefore, I will not be surprised if I find out that there are a lot of contractual (fictitious) matches in the esports industry. 

Although, of course, spectators and fans expect a fair game from eSports.

Not by far to happen, I mean due to money involve and the game is more controllable and with the same capacity of possible competitor game fixing is not easy to predict inside this sport. Though like you, I'm also hoping that those people behind won't be attract with the money and allow this with this rising E-Sport, having a fair conclusion of the game is what the fans are aiming to see and not something that questionable after the game.

Money can turn someone greedy, especially with the lure of big rewards that can make someone do an untrue review. It will be detrimental to the opposing side because the review could bring them down, but if they are not affected by the review and still show a good game, the game setup will likely not work out well. But everything remains in the control of the people who set the game, and the audience is completely clueless.

[Kelvinid]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our minds, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

Yes, I can assume that a match is fixed based on the performance of the team especially if it happens to be a well-known team with good players playing against a team that has fewer quality players or a team that is in poor form. Using football as an example, when a big team with an odd of 1.20  is playing against a smaller team that has an odd of 30.25 is playing a football match when the big team is having all the possessions when the team has created so many goals scoring chances but fails to put any goal at the back of the net even when the team is awarded a penalty, it is obvious that the game is fixed to end as a draw since the small club can not score.

It's hard to spot if a game is fix to be honest, there a ways to fix a game, it's not only on intentionally losing the game but point and total shaving is very popular in sports betting, however, it's not proven so if you are a bettor, you have to be clever when putting a bet, stay away from the public favorites.

[Pierre 2]

I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.