Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ?

[Kasabus]

That is if the people who threw speculations can really find some solid proof to report that there is indeed cheating exist in that specific match or game. Other than that, it is really easy to say that there is cheating especially if you we on the losing side but in reality there wasn't. Might as well prove a point when we throw some accusations but if we cannot then I don't think that it will be worth it to waste some time.

However, it will not be easy for them to report it to the authorities because there is a possibility that the authorities are also involved in the fraud. We as spectators will not be able or even have difficulty gathering the evidence and even the person making the speculation may also have difficulty because there is a possibility that he will be made to keep his mouth shut and pretend he doesn't know anything.

That's the problem, it will be easier for them to rig the sports if the authorities are also involved, there are rumors before I read about a certain league that is fixed, and according to the story, the authorities or the management are the ones directing the referees to make a call and make sure the outcome they want is going to happen.

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[KTChampions]

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I also saw this news (since it concerns my country), but it seemed doubtful to me. Bookmakers, when working properly, receive money regardless of how the game ended. In my opinion, it is much more difficult for a bookmaker to earn money if he tries to play against the total position of the players (who knows where it will swing in the next minute). In this case, everything was allegedly built precisely on this. I think either we do not see the whole picture, or the news itself is fake/prank/something combined.

Yeah, I don't know too much about that league news in particular, but I agree with you. It just sounds like an April's fool's Day kind of news to me.

You would have to have a lot of people interested in doing this, and it would just turn into a comedy or something like that. And I don't think there's too many people interested in that for it to become real.

This whole story looks like a fiction because even considering the low level of salaries in India, it costs money to organize such a fake tournament + it costs money to attract gamblers (at that stupid ones  ) who will bet (given the competition among bookmakers, it is very expensive) on this tournament. This scheme had very little chance of bringing profit to its creators.

[Fredomago]

That is if the people who threw speculations can really find some solid proof to report that there is indeed cheating exist in that specific match or game. Other than that, it is really easy to say that there is cheating especially if you we on the losing side but in reality there wasn't. Might as well prove a point when we throw some accusations but if we cannot then I don't think that it will be worth it to waste some time.

However, it will not be easy for them to report it to the authorities because there is a possibility that the authorities are also involved in the fraud. We as spectators will not be able or even have difficulty gathering the evidence and even the person making the speculation may also have difficulty because there is a possibility that he will be made to keep his mouth shut and pretend he doesn't know anything.

That's the problem, it will be easier for them to rig the sports if the authorities are also involved, there are rumors before I read about a certain league that is fixed, and according to the story, the authorities or the management are the ones directing the referees to make a call and make sure the outcome they want is going to happen.

Oh well, if that's for real for sure if fans will know about that participation coming from the league management they will no longer support the game, might be possible with small type of league where it can easily be manipulated, unlike with big leagues where controversy can easily be review and fans are always eyeing for any possibilities of rigged.

They can contest and will make a big noise to create negative views and the officials will be alarmed and will take actions regarding to any suspicious activities.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Now in the modern world - thing are more covered up there are new techniques and ways for the match fixing. But I am sure every big game has a big game behind it. To me almost every match if not approx 80% matches are fixed. Do you agree?

No. Big games are most watched. There is high money at stake here making it critical to be involved in a match-fixing.

Big games and matches are also recognized by most people around the world and I doubt something fishy will happen here. They won't ruin their reputation for that. Their fans are the reason why they are getting profits.

If we are talking about local leagues or small leagues, maybe there are a few cases of game-fixing but it's not 80%. That was too much.

I too believe most big games have big money behind. And surly most of the bookie would try to buy the players as well. But again now players are more concerned about their reputation and career they would like to stay clean and neutral because sooner of later the secret is out.

The fact of saying that there is no money in the big fights is something absurd, behind each fight there are arrangements, there are negotiations, and obviously there is a lot of money invested so that the fights take place, and this is only so that they can be carried out After all, the other thing that is there and that everyone sees is the business model that is established between promoters, if they see that there is a good agreement between them of a monetary nature, then the fight is very likely to happen, but if not, it guarantees big bets and betting movements by the whales or big bets are not done, so all this is what boxing brings with it.

[terrorJR]

That is if the people who threw speculations can really find some solid proof to report that there is indeed cheating exist in that specific match or game. Other than that, it is really easy to say that there is cheating especially if you we on the losing side but in reality there wasn't. Might as well prove a point when we throw some accusations but if we cannot then I don't think that it will be worth it to waste some time.

However, it will not be easy for them to report it to the authorities because there is a possibility that the authorities are also involved in the fraud. We as spectators will not be able or even have difficulty gathering the evidence and even the person making the speculation may also have difficulty because there is a possibility that he will be made to keep his mouth shut and pretend he doesn't know anything.

That's the problem, it will be easier for them to rig the sports if the authorities are also involved, there are rumors before I read about a certain league that is fixed, and according to the story, the authorities or the management are the ones directing the referees to make a call and make sure the outcome they want is going to happen.

It will be very difficult when money does the talking because when there is all that sportsmanship will obviously disappear and this is really worrying.
Not a few cases like this happen and indeed sometimes in this case all elements are also related starting from the organizers, authorities and even the club that did it so that even if this is reported it will only be a waste of time because the response will certainly be the same.

[mirakal]

That is if the people who threw speculations can really find some solid proof to report that there is indeed cheating exist in that specific match or game. Other than that, it is really easy to say that there is cheating especially if you we on the losing side but in reality there wasn't. Might as well prove a point when we throw some accusations but if we cannot then I don't think that it will be worth it to waste some time.

However, it will not be easy for them to report it to the authorities because there is a possibility that the authorities are also involved in the fraud. We as spectators will not be able or even have difficulty gathering the evidence and even the person making the speculation may also have difficulty because there is a possibility that he will be made to keep his mouth shut and pretend he doesn't know anything.

That's the problem, it will be easier for them to rig the sports if the authorities are also involved, there are rumors before I read about a certain league that is fixed, and according to the story, the authorities or the management are the ones directing the referees to make a call and make sure the outcome they want is going to happen.

Oh well, if that's for real for sure if fans will know about that participation coming from the league management they will no longer support the game, might be possible with small type of league where it can easily be manipulated, unlike with big leagues where controversy can easily be review and fans are always eyeing for any possibilities of rigged.

They can contest and will make a big noise to create negative views and the officials will be alarmed and will take actions regarding to any suspicious activities.

If there will be someone who would be courageous enough to stand and complain about the cheating happened then I bet the authorities who are also involved with the cheating/rigging will be forced to haul out someone to take the blame and will just bail them out if the issue will cool down because I don't think that the authorities and the brain behind it will reveal themselves in the spotlight just to get criticized.

But yes, cases like these usually happen locally where they have control of what will happen if things get worst. They wouldn't try to rig some big leagues as that could really end their career

[ethereumhunter]

That is if the people who threw speculations can really find some solid proof to report that there is indeed cheating exist in that specific match or game. Other than that, it is really easy to say that there is cheating especially if you we on the losing side but in reality there wasn't. Might as well prove a point when we throw some accusations but if we cannot then I don't think that it will be worth it to waste some time.

However, it will not be easy for them to report it to the authorities because there is a possibility that the authorities are also involved in the fraud. We as spectators will not be able or even have difficulty gathering the evidence and even the person making the speculation may also have difficulty because there is a possibility that he will be made to keep his mouth shut and pretend he doesn't know anything.

That's the problem, it will be easier for them to rig the sports if the authorities are also involved, there are rumors before I read about a certain league that is fixed, and according to the story, the authorities or the management are the ones directing the referees to make a call and make sure the outcome they want is going to happen.

If the authorities are involved, it will be more difficult to detect it because they will be able to cover their tracks so that the arranged match will not be exposed by other authorities. The authorities in charge at that time had already received a fee from the behind-the-scenes figures who set the course of the match. The audience or the person who found the evidence can also get in trouble if the authorities are involved because they will look for the person who found the evidence to be forced not to share it in public.

[KTChampions]

By the way, did anyone watch this game yesterday: Elisabetta Cocciaretto - Caroline Garcia? Garcia was the clear favorite but lost the first set 0-6 (LOL) and then easily won the remaining two sets (LOOOOL). If I was looking for matches similar to fixed, then this would be one of the most obvious contenders. It turns out that the one who made a bet on the defeat of Garcia in the first set with such a score won at least x60 

I think this is a good example for this thread to discuss. Do you think everything was fair in this game? If you look at the odds, then usually bookmakers estimate the probability that the favorite will lose the set with a score of 0-6 as 60-100. That is, even if you take the lower limit (60), then by betting a thousand dollars you could win 59 000 only on this bet alone. I can’t say that this game somehow hurt me, but it made me think.

[Botnake]

That is if the people who threw speculations can really find some solid proof to report that there is indeed cheating exist in that specific match or game. Other than that, it is really easy to say that there is cheating especially if you we on the losing side but in reality there wasn't. Might as well prove a point when we throw some accusations but if we cannot then I don't think that it will be worth it to waste some time.

However, it will not be easy for them to report it to the authorities because there is a possibility that the authorities are also involved in the fraud. We as spectators will not be able or even have difficulty gathering the evidence and even the person making the speculation may also have difficulty because there is a possibility that he will be made to keep his mouth shut and pretend he doesn't know anything.

That's the problem, it will be easier for them to rig the sports if the authorities are also involved, there are rumors before I read about a certain league that is fixed, and according to the story, the authorities or the management are the ones directing the referees to make a call and make sure the outcome they want is going to happen.

If the authorities are involved, it will be more difficult to detect it because they will be able to cover their tracks so that the arranged match will not be exposed by other authorities. The authorities in charge at that time had already received a fee from the behind-the-scenes figures who set the course of the match. The audience or the person who found the evidence can also get in trouble if the authorities are involved because they will look for the person who found the evidence to be forced not to share it in public.

But bribing the authorities is not an easy task to do because in most cases, appointed authorities are usually just and only wanted a clean peaceful game (except if the same authorities are the mastermind behind the rigging of the said games). Anyway, as long as authorities are involved, standing up against them will be difficult because you will be going against an organization that has been around for some years or even before you were born and been doing it since then.
You are just lucky if you are offered some bribe to make your mouth shut and forget what you know because the worse situation and common case is they will threaten your life.

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It's typical to see people tell that they know something and stuff from here and there. And that happens when they're an avid fan of that sport and thinks that they've got the utmost knowledge amongst them all.

But to say a criticism, it's an okay thing to say. Although, if those things you're saying about stuff in those sports are mere opinion and no facts to support it, better remain it as an opinion and avoid argument to people that has facts.

Criticism is healthy - one should either listen to it or just ignore if it does not concerns.
However taking a criticism to your head would not be of any help. It will ruin your peace of mind and health.

[ethereumhunter]

But bribing the authorities is not an easy task to do because in most cases, appointed authorities are usually just and only wanted a clean peaceful game (except if the same authorities are the mastermind behind the rigging of the said games). Anyway, as long as authorities are involved, standing up against them will be difficult because you will be going against an organization that has been around for some years or even before you were born and been doing it since then.
You are just lucky if you are offered some bribe to make your mouth shut and forget what you know because the worse situation and common case is they will threaten your life.

It wasn't easy but if they had known each other for a long time, it wouldn't be difficult to offer something that could catch their eye to help the match be arranged. We have seen many cases because some bribed the authorities to help with their plans.

So if the authorities got involved in it, it would make it even more difficult to trace because they must have thought about how to hide it from the rest of the authorities.

[Markinzo]

Fix matches are not that rampant in today's world of sport unlike 20 decades ago, and this has led to the matured outlook of many sports activities especially football.
Like in football, match fixing can easily be spotted for those of us that are so engulf with the whole game for years now, by the ways the referees are officiating the game and how cheap a well onoen good team yield to defeat by a weaker one etc.
Out of a hundred percent games in a season currently, I think 98% are not fix.

[Fredomago]

If there will be someone who would be courageous enough to stand and complain about the cheating happened then I bet the authorities who are also involved with the cheating/rigging will be forced to haul out someone to take the blame and will just bail them out if the issue will cool down because I don't think that the authorities and the brain behind it will reveal themselves in the spotlight just to get criticized.

But yes, cases like these usually happen locally where they have control of what will happen if things get worst. They wouldn't try to rig some big leagues as that could really end their career

But money talks louder than anything, especially with illegal things like this, authorities can haul it but only inside local leagues that obviously doing it but with big one, I doubt even there's rumor it still tough to prove since the facilitator are also good to work with every deal, they will not allow anyone to notice and have a solid evidence with the transactions that they are doing.

We can only say rumor, but proving it inside any big leagues will be tough, maybe next to impossible unless there's a really big name that will expose someone, but I doubt money will talk for sure.