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June 16, 2022, 08:08:16 PM
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I am still with BitLucy and will work for it's future as long as I see their development and passion to achieve their vision. They have their problems but they are not less interested to solve all of it either. That's all that counts for me.

I hope that everything gets cleared up, I'm rooting for you.  I can only imagine how emotional this has been for you and the BitLucy team.  My only hope is that they are indeed a trustworthy group of folks and haven't taken advantage of you and your reputation for their own gain.

Since the site has decided to not promote on the forum any longer does this mean withdrawals are not being honored? Very interesting indeed how this has all played out. I see a big red wave incomming.

I've been in communication with Royse777, and he's not done trying to get everyone refunded.  We'll see how things transpire.

It would be much easier for the Bitlucy team to fix the issues and continue to try and be present here on the forum vs acting like hotheads and running away from the forum blaming the users here for their faults.

Obviously people on both sides of BitLucyGate have gotten emotional.  Those waiting for their withdrawals have justifiably gotten impatient, and the BitLucy team has taken all the discussions quite personally.  I would love nothing more than to see everybody settle down, resolve the issues, and resume business as it should be.  Hopefully we'll have a good outcome before the story is over.

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June 16, 2022, 08:12:07 PM
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Since the site has decided to not promote on the forum any longer does this mean withdrawals are not being honored? Very interesting indeed how this has all played out. I see a big red wave incomming.
Bitlucy website is down again as we speak, so it's impossible for anyone to withdraw their coins now, unless they did it already.
I would hold on tagging and blaming manager Royse for everything, but I am going to tag Bitlucy account myself for their amateurish behavior and for blaming others for their own mistakes.
I would recommend everyone to stay away from this gambling website, and give Royse a chance to redeem himself.

My issue is he has claimed to be part of the team but now to save face has posted he is going to stop promoting them on this forum once wd(valid) are paid. What about off forum? Yes our feedback should be reserved for this forum, but it does talk about his character and trust if he continues to help promote or be a part of that casino away from this forum.

I have tagged the Bitlucy account but really am considering more.

I am still with BitLucy and will work for it's future as long as I see their development and passion to achieve their vision. They have their problems but they are not less interested to solve all of it either. That's all that counts for me.

I hope that everything gets cleared up, I'm rooting for you.  I can only imagine how emotional this has been for you and the BitLucy team.  My only hope is that they are indeed a trustworthy group of folks and haven't taken advantage of you and your reputation for their own gain.
I hope it all works out for him as well. I personally have nothing against Royse. If they cannot or will not fix issues, I hope he has enough sense to walk away.

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June 17, 2022, 12:09:04 AM
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Hi guys, first post here. I was wondering if anyone has the Telegram of user ''Bislom'' ? He claimed to know the owner of Roysee and I would like to talk to him, have some information (chats and much more)
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June 17, 2022, 02:48:35 AM
Last edit: June 17, 2022, 04:25:40 AM by Poker Player
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Hi guys, first post here. I was wondering if anyone has the Telegram of user ''Bislom'' ? He claimed to know the owner of Roysee and I would like to talk to him, have some information (chats and much more)

I don't think so. Send him a PM to see, although he's not very often online. I think he's someone's alt account, so if he reads this maybe he'll send you a PM.

I have nothing personal against Royse777, and when I acted in support of the flag and with the feedback, I explicitly said that it is subject to review, as usual.

But I also believe that there have been no more red tags or flags because of the previous reputation and because she has given lots of jobs in campaigns to many people in the forum. In fact, there has not yet been an opposition to the flag nor a neutral tag in her favor.

Closing the Bitlucy thread ahead of schedule, when those who had the problems with withdrawals there were supposed to explain it in that thread before filling in the form doesn't look good to me.

I would like to hear more opinions from DT on this topic, especially from those of you who are more neutral, as it is clear that there are many of you who have a clear empathy for her.

Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I can think that she somewhat got caught in the middle of this.

But I would also say that if this case were to happen with a campaign manager with less experience and less previous reputation she would have a lot more red tags.

I've been in communication with Royse777, and he's not done trying to get everyone refunded.  We'll see how things transpire.

I hope this will happen, and when done, let's remove the tags and call it a day.

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June 17, 2022, 06:23:28 AM
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Hi guys, first post here. I was wondering if anyone has the Telegram of user ''Bislom'' ? He claimed to know the owner of Roysee and I would like to talk to him, have some information (chats and much more)

From what I know, Royse777 is not really "the" owner of that casino. He said yesterday:

I have a small share with BitLucy

Even more, in the last 2 or so months (maybe more) Royse777 was no longer as active as usual on the forum, probably caught in a lot of things.
The current situation with BitLucy most probably made the things worse as free time so I'm not sure how open he will be to spend time with you (no offense, I'm trying just to prepare you).
So my advises are:
* if you have open issue with BitLucy make sure you've filled the google form; today is the last day for that (!) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395791.msg60373594#msg60373594
* try to get his attention and hope that he will contact you
 ** PM is an option, but please don't send more than one nor set your hopes too high, since some may have newbies blocked
 ** writing down his name correctly in a post may trigger notifications if he has them set up

If you've posted your situation into the form and it got handled (good or bad), it would be useful if you tell us too.

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June 17, 2022, 06:26:49 AM
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* if you have open issue with BitLucy make sure you've filled the google form; today is the last day for that (!) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395791.msg60373594#msg60373594

I've already said above whith a screnshot that that form says that people have to previously explain their case in the locked thread. So, I don't know how they are going to do that.

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June 17, 2022, 06:47:40 AM
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* if you have open issue with BitLucy make sure you've filled the google form; today is the last day for that (!) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395791.msg60373594#msg60373594

I've already said above whith a screnshot that that form says that people have to previously explain their case in the locked thread. So, I don't know how they are going to do that.

Wow, I've managed to miss that (I badly need more coffee!). Sorry.
Still, I urge those with problems fill something, anything in that form. That's because:
* one can make his own topic or post in this very thread and post the link into the form; it's not in the designated topic, but at least it's there
* one cam post in the form and write into the form that the thread is locked; it opens the door for further discussions (the wording "Please be detailed so that I do not need to approach to you for more details." may mean that if needed, Royse777 or the casino will contact the user, right?) and at least there's an entry in the form before the time limit.

I think that Royse777 closing the thread was a hasty move, not deliberate to stop users telling their problems, since it gives him more work to do. At least this is how I see the things.

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June 17, 2022, 07:28:28 AM
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Was this the thread you were referring to Pmalek?
BitLucy.com 🎰 no more in bitcointalk

It has been locked by Royse777 in well under 24 hours since she appeared this morning.

Moreover, the bitlucy site is down.
No, that was not what was supposed to happen. Whoever I talked to over the chat said they will post an update to reassure the community that withdrawals are being processed and things are finally looking good. We can all see how that went...

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June 17, 2022, 08:36:04 AM
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Someone who knows more than me about bounties can help check if what this person says is true or is lying?

He/she deserves all the red tag from anyone who feels red tag should be given. Because of his/her clumsiness and bad management, all the participants of lunaland (an alt campaign managed by Royse777) didn't get a single payment despite how successful the project was back then, it was suppose to be a weekly payment but rosey never follow up to ensure participants of signature get their weekly payment,  he rarely answered questions in the bounty telegram group, instead of sincerely apologise for the mismanagement of the campaign he threatened to red tag anyone who dare challenge his/her incompetence (not to mention he/she got paid regardless).

Participants of that bounty never reported Royse777 because of the influence he/she has here in the forum. This is another way of scam, not necessarily direct scam. I would be red tagging him/her if I have the power. What is worth doing is worth doing well.

The thread in question is this one, I think:

LunaLand FLY ME TO THE MOON [Bounty] 💰🕵🏻‍♂$15,000 in LLN🥳

People who have a grudge against Royse777, like bounty cheaters, can take advantage of these moments to tell lies about her, but also after the last events, I think it's worth checking things like this.

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I didn't see this Bitlucy drama until yesterday, when OP posted in Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! So I haven't read everything yet.

I just read through this guy's post history. What surprises me, is that Bitlucy was only online for a few days after registration, and didn't address any of the problems.
Running a casino is usually very profitable. "100% deposit bonuses" are usually designed to require enough wagering to make it EV- for the player. That means the casino should earn money, which means they don't have to scam users.
Not being able to withdraw $1000 makes it look like they're broke.

Did Bitlucy ever show proof of bankroll?

@Royse777: davidr_22 posted his withdrawal problem on May 25. Instead of addressing it, you started the Avatar campaign the next day.

No one is seeing anything that is happening inside bitlucy better than me but everyone is speculating from their own views and making it as guaranteed. It's not wrong either. I was doing the same before.
Obviously we can only see what happens in public, and what I see doesn't look good.

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I am still with BitLucy and will work for it's future as long as I see their development and passion to achieve their vision. They have their problems but they are not less interested to solve all of it either.
It doesn't look like they're interested in fixing problems when you say they cut all ties with Bitcointalk. Sure, Bitcointalk can be hostile, but in this case it looks like it's deserved.

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Rest assure if ever I find myself in a convincing situations that should not continue with BitLucy anymore then I will not hesitate to cut off all stings from them.
Can you comment on the one withdrawal issue I cherry-picked above?

I don't think he's going to find this topic.

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The form will be closed after 17th.
That's not much time for users to find this form, especially if their problem was ignored for weeks and was only linked in the OP of the main thread one day before the deadline.

I would request you to request a new withdrawal since we had to cancel all past request while we had withdrawal system updated.
This is a terrible excuse to delay withdrawals. If you update software, at least process or transfer the existing withdrawal requests.

I am not going to support any flags against you, but you are not giving much arguments for people to oppose it
I feel the same.

Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I can think that she somewhat got caught in the middle of this.
This is always the risk of "lending" your reputation to promote something.



If they're truely willing to resolve all problems, I'd say the way to do this is by giving full transparency. Start by providing proof of funds, create a public list of all complains, and resolve them. All this doesn't have to take more than a day.

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Royse777 is not only representing bitlucy, he is the CEO from it. He did this project with 1-2 other people. There is no "team".
Royse777 thought he could be rich very quickly with stealing deposits and not pay out.
I warned people in the first days already this site is scam and Royse777 can not be trusted. He is a DTM (Default Trust Muppet) and abuses his status.
its good that the site is closed on the forum, before more victims will come up.
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Royse777 is not only representing bitlucy, he is the CEO from it.
Proof it.

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A team can be made out of 3 people.

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Royse777 thought he could be rich very quickly with stealing deposits and not pay out.
Proof it and I'll tag him (her?) myself.

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One point making this whole thing an even bigger mess is that in the beginning, we were "told" that the CM was simply taking care of the bitcointalk promotion, with no word about being directly involved and/or having any share with the operation.

Now, we read things about "just a small share"... this is worrying, besides stating one would keep "helping" such an operation, it does not matter if on bitcointalk or outside of it, a scam operation remains a scam operation and when you have not been executing payments for weeks, you are a scam, full stop.

Apparently, people have lost money - they deposited, requested withdrawals, and never received those - not a rocket science, I have no idea how the CM or anyone else dared justifying such a BS over such a long period of time.

Very sad story really and so predictable. :/

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I probably won't be able to log in the forum for the next 24 hours or so.

For one thing, I had a good opinion of Royse777 before this and would like to get this resolved and remove his tag. I think there are many of you who have expressed a similar opinion.

But on the other hand, my gut tells me that when things like this happen, this may just be the tip of the iceberg.

Royse777 is not only representing bitlucy, he is the CEO from it. He did this project with 1-2 other people. There is no "team".
Royse777 thought he could be rich very quickly with stealing deposits and not pay out.
I warned people in the first days already this site is scam and Royse777 can not be trusted. He is a DTM (Default Trust Muppet) and abuses his status.
its good that the site is closed on the forum, before more victims will come up.

I read your post history and found it interesting how accurately you predicted how it would all end. But this is a forum, and your word alone is not proof of anything.

Do you know anything about the bounty campaign I mentioned above?

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You came from being a co-partner and marketing director, to a small share guy without any authority very fast.
BitLucy.com stated their forum journey on the 23rd April. On the 24th April, Royse777 has confirmed that he is the Co-Partner & Marketing Director of BitLucy and the CEO is his good friend. He also confirmed he has small share with BitLucy team.

Those who are confused about my involvement with BitLucy. I have partnered with them and holding a small percent of share of the company. We are working on legal side to come to a contract and my role with them is Co-Partner & Marketing Director. I and the CEO are good friend and it's been over a year we are hanging out regularly. So we have been able to build up a level of trust to each others. We both wanted a business. Since we both understand the gambling industry we decided to bring the best in this space.


No, that was not what was supposed to happen. Whoever I talked to over the chat said they will post an update to reassure the community that withdrawals are being processed and things are finally looking good. We can all see how that went...
Nothing went well until now. Royse777 has made the announcement of BitLucy.com in the forum. He ran BitLucy signature campaign as a manager. But all on a sudden he said that he isn't going to work as representative of BitLucy

The management of BitLucy has decided to cut off all connections from bitcointalk and I am not officially representing bitlucy on bitcointalk anymore

In the meantime, we have seen several complaints against BitLucy. They ran signature and avatar campaign, Royse777 hired many reputable forum member to wear the avatar and personal text of BitLucy. Royse777 said that he is a good friend of the CEO. All of us expecting to see the solution of those issues and giving more chance to Royse777 as he is a reputable forum member. He should have worked here as a representative until the issues are fixed.

BTW, They also ran a bounty campaign and closed it in the middle: {STOP} BitLucy Casino Bounty Campaign | 4 weeks | Budget: 15% Revenue in Bitcoin. Does anyone know what happened with that bounty campaign?

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Royse777 is not only representing bitlucy, he is the CEO from it. He did this project with 1-2 other people. There is no "team".
Royse777 thought he could be rich very quickly with stealing deposits and not pay out.
I warned people in the first days already this site is scam and Royse777 can not be trusted. He is a DTM (Default Trust Muppet) and abuses his status.
its good that the site is closed on the forum, before more victims will come up.

Hey Bislom, is there any way to chat with you on Telegram? I know the owner of BitLucy and would like to talk with you about it?
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BTW, They also ran a bounty campaign and closed it in the middle: {STOP} BitLucy Casino Bounty Campaign | 4 weeks | Budget: 15% Revenue in Bitcoin. Does anyone know what happened with that bounty campaign?
I just went through the thread, looks like it opened on May the 1st and closed on May the 10th with no announcement from CryptopreneurBrainboss. He would be the only 1 who may actually know what happened, but I think he should have at least made an announcement somewhere.


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BTW, They also ran a bounty campaign and closed it in the middle: {STOP} BitLucy Casino Bounty Campaign | 4 weeks | Budget: 15% Revenue in Bitcoin. Does anyone know what happened with that bounty campaign?
I just went through the thread, looks like it opened on May the 1st and closed on May the 10th with no announcement from CryptopreneurBrainboss. He would be the only 1 who may actually know what happened, but I think he should have at least made an announcement somewhere.

Thanks for the mention (notification), I was approached directly by the CEO of BitLucy which isn't Royse 777 for a promotion program in which the reward system was to be determined by the mode mentioned in the bounty thread. This communication came after he notice my involvement in their signature campaign. After several consideration by my participants we decided to go for it but when we noticed it won't be successful, we stop the very end of first week. A poll was taken for this to happen and an announcement was made for the closure of bounty; https://t.me/BrainbossBountyGroup/45690.

It's quite unfortunate that Royse 777 is in such an ugly situation because I have worked with him severally and noticed his sincerity. We ones carryout a charity program together and worked on several of his signature campaign which he has always paid. I hope you pull through this as I believe if you are in a better position, you would had resolved all this.

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One of the details that makes matters worse is the way Royce reacts to the matter ;
According to what he wrote since the beginning of the crisis and the rise in the voices condemning the casino, it seems that he is completely indifferent that the project was receiving attention according to the community trust in him as an active and reliable member of the forum , or that he does not even see the extent of the problem he has put himself in, in relation to the trust that He spent years building it.

What is really strange is that he writes comments defending himself and the rightness of his choice to join that casino without addressing the issue of users who still seem to have problems with withdrawals till today.

When he announces that the casino has decided to cut all links with this forum and also announces that he is still a party to the work team as an official representative of the casino, whether on the forum or anywhere else, this certainly does not absolve him of responsibility if one of the casino victims came to publish an accusation here, explaining that He has been victim of any kind of fraud or theft justified by clear evidences.
I mean, don't expect community here to tell him that the casino has severed its relationship with the forum, This is nonsense.

I think most of us would agree that it is very unfortunate to see the position Royce has placed himself in even if the casino issues are resolved. But even more surprising is what appears to be a completely indifferent attitude from Royce himself on the issue.
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About Bitlucy withdrawal problem and could claimed with scam casino gambling platform and run away much money from member still not respond from DT usually active give flag for participants on 1xbit, why the most active DT like
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Shut up and none of them are actively responding in this thread, are they just daring with 1xbit and turning a blind eye to what happened to Bitlucy, even though these two gambling platforms are both committing fraud against their members. Is the reason for the three DTs because Royse777 is a close friend of them so they don't dare to give a red flag?

Come on guy we are waiting all your respond about Bitlucy, show you are gentlemen said about Bitlucy and Royse777 are scammer.
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