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February 23, 2023, 11:44:09 PM
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It seems that no one will believe and want to buy this kind of offer because it has a bit of a big risk.
Isn't buying it just a waste of money, moreover the offers that are given are also not very profitable.
I think only stupid people are willing to spend their money to buy it even though it can last a little longer but in the future no one knows whether it will survive or not.
what do you mean by last a little longer?
chances are the OP is just telling us all here about a script he came up with and maybe used successfully himself.
so this has nothing to do with holding on a little longer.

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February 25, 2023, 03:22:10 PM
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The typical rouge way to sell a script and I think forum users are more intelligent not to fall for this kind of scams. Just beware to those who might be interested, this is all just some kind of clickbait and everything can be edited to look like it was profitable. Beware!
This is a potential loss trap the most newbies looking for an already-made gambling script,  but to the older members is a blatant red flag attempt and ordinary we should avoid getting involved in this low-level way of thought.
-we have seen a lot of similar failed attempts and this one also will not be different from the rest.

Since the last post on the forum from OP was published more than a year ago, it seems that there were no people willing to buy this dubious offer, otherwise we would have already seen red flags, then I think that people have not been buying such applications for a long time.
It seems that no one will believe and want to buy this kind of offer because it has a bit of a big risk.
Isn't buying it just a waste of money, moreover the offers that are given are also not very profitable.
I think only stupid people are willing to spend their money to buy it even though it can last a little longer but in the future no one knows whether it will survive or not.
It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.

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February 25, 2023, 07:42:42 PM
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It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on.

-But what I am certain of is that, the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops.
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February 25, 2023, 09:19:56 PM
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It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on.

If we are talking about profit, then people will do anything even believing a street gossiper's prediction.  So it is not a surprise that some people will fall into a trap of buying a useless script or whatsoever.

-But what I am certain of is that, the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops.

Probably because he felt that it is not worth replying anymore since majority of the reply busted his plan of selling a script and refute the profitability of the script.
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February 25, 2023, 10:13:29 PM
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It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on.

If we are talking about profit, then people will do anything even believing a street gossiper's prediction.  So it is not a surprise that some people will fall into a trap of buying a useless script or whatsoever.

-But what I am certain of is that the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops.

Probably because he felt that it is not worth replying to anymore since the majority of the reply busted his plan of selling a script and refuting the profitability of the script.

People who spend too much on purchasing useless scripts are those who want to make a profit without exerting the effort of exploring an effective strategy to win. We all want to make a profit but we don't have to do desperate moves. If casinos would catch us doing such a thing, we might only put our funds at risk so we have to be careful. There are plenty of ways to enjoy gambling without using scripts and we will only face consequences in the future if we will continue to cheat.
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February 26, 2023, 05:40:33 AM
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It seems that no one will believe and want to buy this kind of offer because it has a bit of a big risk.
Isn't buying it just a waste of money, moreover the offers that are given are also not very profitable.
I think only stupid people are willing to spend their money to buy it even though it can last a little longer but in the future no one knows whether it will survive or not.
what do you mean by last a little longer?
chances are the OP is just telling us all here about a script he came up with and maybe used successfully himself.
so this has nothing to do with holding on a little longer.
I don't think that he actually tried it and it was successful. All he has done is create it, or maybe didn't even do that, maybe he took that screenshot from somewhere and randomly posted it here since there is no extra information except a single line and the screenshot.

I believe a platform would immediately freeze or block an account if they find it involved in anything like using a script or something to maximize the winnings, that too to this extent. Whatever we see on that screenshot is all just too good to be true.

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February 26, 2023, 08:57:10 AM
Last edit: February 26, 2023, 01:03:17 PM by klidex
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It seems that no one will believe and want to buy this kind of offer because it has a bit of a big risk.
Isn't buying it just a waste of money, moreover the offers that are given are also not very profitable.
I think only stupid people are willing to spend their money to buy it even though it can last a little longer but in the future no one knows whether it will survive or not.
what do you mean by last a little longer?
chances are the OP is just telling us all here about a script he came up with and maybe used successfully himself.
so this has nothing to do with holding on a little longer.
If indeed the script made by OP is successfully used alone then we will not know whether the script can be used in the long term.
And if the script he made has been successful for use by himself why is he offering his script for sale because no one knows whether the script can be useful for a long time until some time to come.
Until here do you still not understand what I mean?


It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
It would be better for you to be able to give advice or advice to your friends that their actions could be very detrimental to them, even worse, your friend could lose all the money he has just because of this script that doesn't make sense.
If your friend continues to do this, then I'm sure it's not an advantage they get, but a loss that may not be able to be returned.

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February 26, 2023, 09:29:43 AM
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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.



It's a meaningless screenshot of a simulator which itself is probably not properly randomized (because it is near impossible to do it efficiently on a computer). If the random number generator has any flaws, they will be amplified over so many iterations, but you can bet that the casinos put a lot more money into their random number generators to maintain accuracy, rather than your most likely free, piece of software. The underlying math is rather simple and doesn't need a simulator to tell you  the long term outcome. If you re-ran this simulator another 10,000 and were sure it was re-computing the odds each time, then that would be more interesting to see, but again it is likely to only highlight the flaws in this program's computations and nothing else.

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February 26, 2023, 10:13:59 AM
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It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on.

If we are talking about profit, then people will do anything even believing a street gossiper's prediction.  So it is not a surprise that some people will fall into a trap of buying a useless script or whatsoever.

-But what I am certain of is that the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops.

Probably because he felt that it is not worth replying to anymore since the majority of the reply busted his plan of selling a script and refuting the profitability of the script.

People who spend too much on purchasing useless scripts are those who want to make a profit without exerting the effort of exploring an effective strategy to win. We all want to make a profit but we don't have to do desperate moves. If casinos would catch us doing such a thing, we might only put our funds at risk so we have to be careful. There are plenty of ways to enjoy gambling without using scripts and we will only face consequences in the future if we will continue to cheat.

and a gambler who uses the script will say how he got banned, but he knows that he is using it. They are just putting their accounts in danger. Usually, when they withdraw, their money gets held because of third-party scripts they've used. If it is already prohibited on the platform, we shouldn't use it. I know bots can ease our lives and sometimes exploit things, as I've been using them in my daily life for my work, but they should have been used for good.
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February 26, 2023, 05:43:38 PM
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It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on.

-But what I am certain of is that, the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops.
It is so. They see such screenshots, think that even if it is fake - they just losing money for buying script. They see that the sum is small enough, and don`t think that it can be a virus.
I`m sure that all tries to cheat with casino can`t last long but the cheaters never stop. I saw several tries, now this ways of cheating are banned in all well-known casinos.

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February 26, 2023, 06:32:46 PM
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I don't think that he actually tried it and it was successful. All he has done is create it, or maybe didn't even do that, maybe he took that screenshot from somewhere and randomly posted it here since there is no extra information except a single line and the screenshot.

I believe a platform would immediately freeze or block an account if they find it involved in anything like using a script or something to maximize the winnings, that too to this extent. Whatever we see on that screenshot is all just too good to be true.
If we check the OP's post history you will see that he posted a similar pic but that time with some details included. In one of his post he said that he will also do a live streaming. If he truly did that then great, people here would be convinced more but we will still observe his game first if it runs well, we might try his strategy but if not then sorry.

The OP is only using a dicebot with a scripts loaded on it and it was legal on many sites in case you did not know yet. It was not a magical tool to give player a sure win or a really huge profit the longer they use it but maybe some gamblers think it was. Gambling owners can only laugh about them.

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February 26, 2023, 06:51:49 PM
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It's a meaningless screenshot of a simulator which itself is probably not properly randomized (because it is near impossible to do it efficiently on a computer). If the random number generator has any flaws, they will be amplified over so many iterations, but you can bet that the casinos put a lot more money into their random number generators to maintain accuracy, rather than your most likely free, piece of software. The underlying math is rather simple and doesn't need a simulator to tell you  the long term outcome. If you re-ran this simulator another 10,000 and were sure it was re-computing the odds each time, then that would be more interesting to see, but again it is likely to only highlight the flaws in this program's computations and nothing else.
The results found look really unrealistic considering the proportion between maximum winning streak, loss streak, number of total bets and profit made. I don't know how he reached to that final conclusion, but I guess it's possible, considering it was done in a legit way, he had to reproduce the experiment a lot of times, until reaching the results desired, which during a real dice gambling session have tiny chances of happening.

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February 26, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.

It looks to me that you've made an application based on some assumptions and you show that your application does follow your assumptions (and can print nice numbers too).
The problem is that I really think that your assumptions are not correct.

As said, if you want to monetize this application you're doing it wrong.
1. If the application is that good, why don't you gamble yourself with it and earn money?
2. Why you don't find some reputed members willing to test your app with their own money and review it? (And to make it clear: no, I don't want your app).

Exactly what it looks like to me. And I am not even sure what exactly OP wants to do here. Does he expect someone to invest in him? Or does he perhaps use these posts for advertising this upcoming simulator?

Either way the math does not add up and his program is flawed, obviously.

He should post the code publicly if he wants to prove whatever he is trying to prove. Thats really the only way to prove to people he is on to something.

In either case, its complete nonsense.

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February 26, 2023, 09:24:06 PM
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well, there is a data missing. House Edge! It is considered into this equation?
Because if you made a "simple" martingale (double each time your bet) you can achieve such kind of result, but it's not working in a real life setting... a bot like this should be tested in a real dice game and then you know if it works or not...

Also simulation and real life are two different things. You don't exactly know what's behind the casino algorithm and you can't be sure that your script will produce the same results in a casino.
If someone was playing and winning big right before you and the casino script takes into account that someone broke their bank today, it's not going to allow you to do it again.

I suspect casinos special contingency plans that tend to balance things out and they won't allow multiple people to have a winning streak at the same time and you don't know who and when is achieving what results in the casino you're running your script.
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Why's everyone talking about op wanting to sale off his strategy, I've had to repeatedly go back to the post to be sure I didn't miss out on anything and yes I didn't, so where are you guys seeing the wanting to sale off his strategy from???

Op, we understand the screenshot but not the message you're trying to pass, what's on your mind??

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Why's everyone talking about op wanting to sale off his strategy, I've had to repeatedly go back to the post to be sure I didn't miss out on anything and yes I didn't, so where are you guys seeing the wanting to sale off his strategy from???

Op, we understand the screenshot but not the message you're trying to pass, what's on your mind??

Well, we are not discussing here the possibility of selling the OP of this script, besides, he gave a link to the site from where it can be downloaded https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403425.msg60433972#msg60433972 , here they discuss its very use for online casino games and what it can lead to.
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February 27, 2023, 09:11:17 AM
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1. You want to borrow $17,987,638.71 from someone in this forum?
2. You want to sell your strategy/script?

I know what you mean is I pointed above and it's just a calculation, there's no guarantee. If your strategy/script do 100% work, you can try it yourself with smaller amount and you can multiply your money again and again to become rich. If you can become rich from your strategy, why need to sell your strategy/script? Critical thinking guys...

I don't see anything mad with what was posted and the only madness I'm seeing is if anyone tries giving this a try.
I'm very sure there are no short cuts to gambling success and just as you said, and I agree that there is no need selling a strategy you found that's making millions and I had to think critically and of course, there is no need to sell.  And just as @yahoo already said, this strategy will eventually burst along the way and no matter how profitable it might seem so no need investing or buying something without any guaranty just because the seller claims it's going to give out millions.

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Why's everyone talking about op wanting to sale off his strategy, I've had to repeatedly go back to the post to be sure I didn't miss out on anything and yes I didn't, so where are you guys seeing the wanting to sale off his strategy from???

Op, we understand the screenshot but not the message you're trying to pass, what's on your mind??
The reason why everyone is thinking that he is wanting to sell the script is exactly why you asked the question at the end, what's in his mind while posting is still unknown, but everyone just assumes that it's his way of showing off his creation which he wants to sell off.

If that's not really what he wants to do, he should have clearly stated the purpose behind posting that screenshot. He could at least describe it and tell the readers what he wants them to see and what he thinks is the madness in it. He didn't make things clear, nor did he make a single reply after creating the thread.

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February 27, 2023, 10:00:48 PM
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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.


yes I could compare your loses and win and I can see thag you have made several bets that is so interesting because that is where my eyes were settled first. You are really a good gambler for you to have made up to $1m where many if us have not played something similar to this kind of game. My question is that how are we going to be very sure that you owns that pic because so many things are happening these days .

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February 27, 2023, 10:04:13 PM
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It seem like a typical and not really good attempt to generate hype. I guess the next think from the OP will be to sell the "method" or the "bot". Now, I am going to give the OP the benefit of the doubt. In case you really run that simulation in real conditions, you are most likely facing an statistical issue with any random number generator that in the long term may provide wrong results.
That's probably what it will be.

These numbers and percentages made by a dry run can be good as marketing just like the typical thing that we see on products and services but not giving actual results.

These simulations are good thing to be based of if you've got no other reference but if it's too much and too good to be true, that's where the doubt starts.

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