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October 31, 2022, 11:15:29 PM
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I just checked your post history in the gambling section and it's a bunch of garbage, it's either a 2 liner nonsense or you're on a bookmaker thread looking for free spins, I've known most Stake signature participants to be huge spammers because most of the accounts in that campaign are alt anyways. If I were your manager, you wouldn't get paid for those posts. I haven't seen your posts in the gambling section because we post in a completely different thread. This isn't Facebook or Twitter, so two-line jokes aren't appropriate. You are capable of doing better.

What do you mean, isn't this a totally legit, insightful, much prediction, such knowledge post?
I just picked the last one, not going to waste one more second on his history

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Marcus Rashford has already given Westham United a goal in the 38th minute for Manchester United. There is still half time to play.  In the remaining half if Manchester United goalkeeper is able to stop the balls coming towards them and if Manchester United's other players are able to pass the ball well and give Westham United another goal then they will surely win today.

Just look, Manchester is leading, and if Westham doesn't score but Manchester scores again, ...ta-dada... Manchester will win!
It's a bulletproof prediction, if the score ends 2-0, the team with two goals scored will win, I bet none of the veteran gambles could come up with this.

He's making the job of live commentators easier; perhaps he should become one. It's the same as saying if Arsenal scores the fifth goal against Nottingham Forest, Arsenal will win the game; predicting known outcome only makes him look stupid,Lol. This type of post is of no use to gamblers. Writing commentaries while the game is still in progress is nonsense; if you have a meaningful thought, express it during halftime and predict what may or may not happen in the second half, not Bs of what we already know.

what was he trying to say in that bolded part ?

Discussing player transfers and availability played a bit role in predicting the outcome of a game, these discussion are somewhat necessary at some point. Before I put up a bet, I first try to check the latest news and discussions about those clubs H2H, injuries, and players, so it's easier for use if we have some discussion as regard those games in the thread so. Before placing a bet, one does not need to look any further.

Totally agree on this, things like this are important, but if you're posting stuff like "Mbappe is not playing so things might be difficult for PSG" without bothering to make any kind of prediction, this is not gambling talk, this is fanboy gossip and copy pasting newsline headers. I don't think that if a top player is either suspended or injured someone needs to mention this three times in a row in a topic when obviously all the gamblers are aware of it and some others have done it five times already.
Yeah, player availability influences game odds, but that isn't enough. If Mbappe isn't playing, you must provide in-depth analysis of what we can expect and why betting against PSG is a good bet, but some people only drop headlines and then disappear.

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November 01, 2022, 06:38:01 AM
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Marcus Rashford has already given Westham United a goal in the 38th minute for Manchester United. There is still half time to play.  In the remaining half if Manchester United goalkeeper is able to stop the balls coming towards them and if Manchester United's other players are able to pass the ball well and give Westham United another goal then they will surely win today.
what was he trying to say in that bolded part ?

It's a translation thing, I know that from our Moldavian co-workers, in some languages to score a goal is also "to do" a goal so here to give a goal to the other team is to score a point, but of course, in translation it loses that meaning and it just becomes a really confusing text.
And this is again one thing that shows how much of a football fan some people are when they don't even realize what they are saying and how this sounds.

It's the same as saying if Arsenal scores the fifth goal against Nottingham Forest, Arsenal will win the game; predicting known outcome only makes him look stupid,Lol.

Reminds of a football player interviewed in our league, freshly after the game in which they lost 0-2, he said that if the other team didn't score those two goals and we have scored at least once we would have won. No shit Sherlock!   Wink


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November 01, 2022, 11:32:34 AM
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Marcus Rashford has already given Westham United a goal in the 38th minute for Manchester United. There is still half time to play.  In the remaining half if Manchester United goalkeeper is able to stop the balls coming towards them and if Manchester United's other players are able to pass the ball well and give Westham United another goal then they will surely win today.
what was he trying to say in that bolded part ?

It's a translation thing, I know that from our Moldavian co-workers, in some languages to score a goal is also "to do" a goal so here to give a goal to the other team is to score a point, but of course, in translation it loses that meaning and it just becomes a really confusing text.
And this is again one thing that shows how much of a football fan some people are when they don't even realize what they are saying and how this sounds.

Sometimes translators can't help but give them the shit they wrote in their native language back in English; translators don't mess with sentences, do they?

It's the same as saying if Arsenal scores the fifth goal against Nottingham Forest, Arsenal will win the game; predicting known outcome only makes him look stupid,Lol.

Reminds of a football player interviewed in our league, freshly after the game in which they lost 0-2, he said that if the other team didn't score those two goals and we have scored at least once we would have won. No shit Sherlock!   Wink

I've never seen professional players make such ridiculous excuses, and the only coach who blames grass, fans' noise, stadium shape, and weather after a loss is Liverpool Klopp.

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November 04, 2022, 12:09:14 AM
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correctly. of course this match will be an important match for Napoli to widen the gap with other teams. and so will Atalanta go all out for points. about Napoli's defeat of Liverpool in the champions league Napoli actually played very well from the first half. but in the second half in the 80th minute. we can see Napoli a little caught off guard by slowing down the tempo of their game. and that caused a gap in Napoli and Liverpool could see the gap and take advantage of it to bear 2 goals. so Napoli were too confident in the second half that they got caught off guard by then.

oh I just remembered that the FIFA world cup is almost on time.

Well right. if Juventus could be at their best then the match could end in a draw. But PSG deserved to win in that match. because PSG played very well. but juventus isn't too bad either. considering the opponent Juventus are facing is PSG which is a very strong team. and the match was also very interesting. but I think Juventus can still play better. as long as they can fix their current weakness. But PSG's level of play is slightly above Juventus. so it's only natural that PSG are included in one of the strong candidates to get the title this season.


Does these two posts make any sense? how can you be part of a signature campaign and not put a little effort in your post? I have reported it and hope mod would do the needful.

Take this as motivation to improve the quality of your posts and watch the game more often; you don't have to post on a sport thread you're unfamiliar with because you'll be exposed eventually. I'm not a big fan of basketball or baseball, so I have no business in those threads.

If you are on my list send me a PM to review your post.

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Take this as motivation to improve the quality of your posts and watch the game more often; you don't have to post on a sport thread you're unfamiliar with because you'll be exposed eventually. I'm not a big fan of basketball or baseball, so I have no business in those threads.

If you are on my list send me a PM to review your post.

Ah, I just found out there was a post about this.
and I will be happy if you can take the time to review my post. because I am always open to criticism and suggestions that can build the quality of my posts.

but I want to clarify about the post about the Italian league (Serie A) and also the Champions League.
I think you misunderstood me. because I'm really a football fan for Serie A and also the Champions League and what I said about the Napoli vs Liverpool game. also purely based on what I observed from the matches I watched. maybe I don't know all the teams in the Champions League. but I am confident enough to know the teams in Serie A. I also said that about Juventus based on the observations and conclusions I observed from the match. but the difference in point of view in the observation is sure to occur. so I really only dared to enter a thread where I was confident enough to follow it and join the discussion in it. For example, I also don't dare to post about the Premier League because I'm not a fan of Premier League. so I don't like to make posts about premier league but sometimes I watch it when I bet for one of the teams in the English league. but I don't do much.

but to be honest my english is messed up. sometimes I find it difficult to express the right words with the right vocabulary. because of the limited memorization of vocabulary that I can master.

I am very grateful because your post is very helpful in improving the quality of posts by members in this forum including myself and cleaning it from spammers.

I will take this as a lesson. thanks for paying attention.

I will try to improve my post again so that it is no longer considered spam.

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January 13, 2023, 09:34:07 PM
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Upcoming match between Aston Villa vs Leeds and indeed Aston Villa performance was still unstable under Emery but i can see this team has potention to survive on premier league and 1 lose from 5 matches it proven there are big improvement for Aston Villa and today as a host they will fight against Leeds and but to earn 3 points from Leeds it will not be so easy because Leeds sometimes performing well even they have interesting records during this season because Leeds can able to wins from strong teams for away matches but apparently for this match i wouldn't pick who is the winner of this match but i will be more prefer both teams to scores considering Aston Villa and Leeds were quite productive recently

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I don't even think barcelona will let him go to the arsenal. Barcelona has bought him last transfer season and it seems like that barcelona has no intention to sell him. I think that its' too early to say that if raphinha will be going to the arsenal. Barcelona has not yet given any confirmation regarding such rumour. I hope that he can consider what will be the best for his future. I meant he must also aware if he has not yet gotten any place in barcelona. He shall leave from there as soon as possible.



Some shit posts actually sound funny, Grin I found these users posting on the EPL, Laliga, Ligue1, and serie A threads, how are you going to post anything meaningful on a league you know nothing about? I know it's difficult to keep up with all of these leagues. It would be easier for you guys  to make good posts if you could only post on the leagues you watch frequently. It is not necessary for you to post on every gambling thread. I hope this notification helps you.

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January 13, 2023, 09:47:49 PM
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Exactly my thoughts, because some users just try to blend in and maybe meet up activities in the gambling board in sports threads they are not familiar with and its all over the gambling discussion board. Making a good is going to be easy for you when you have some ideas and knowledge about the sports.

Most times, when am when reading the comments in the premier league thread, it really baffles me to see some of the funny shitpost users actually write. Just like the ones droped here, it clearly shows the user doesn't know what his/she is talking about.

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ChatGPT and gambling board spammers I'd think would drive everything into uncontrollable overdrive if it wasn't already there pre ChatGPT.

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ChatGPT and gambling board spammers I'd think would drive everything into uncontrollable overdrive if it wasn't already there pre ChatGPT.

I really want to use this site but it's hard.

I think ChatGPT won't help the spammer specially in the sports discussion threads. The reason is that ChatGPT does not have the latest data of live matches as its database contains only the matches prior to 2021. So spammers can't use ChatGPT to talk about current matches and tournaments.

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January 16, 2023, 11:06:38 AM
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ChatGPT and gambling board spammers I'd think would drive everything into uncontrollable overdrive if it wasn't already there pre ChatGPT.

I really want to use this site but it's hard.

I think ChatGPT won't help the spammer specially in the sports discussion threads. The reason is that ChatGPT does not have the latest data of live matches as its database contains only the matches prior to 2021. So spammers can't use ChatGPT to talk about current matches and tournaments.

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This is at least partially false. There's been all kinds of discovery made by users that effectively prove that the database extends beyond 2021 but it's muffled by software.

Regardless, what you said is also partially true. And let's just say that sports is 100.00% safe. Huge portions of the board are exponentially more ripe for abuse than they already were.

I still stand by the only way to stop this problem is to stop the gambling monetization by low IQ button clickers. Anything else is fruitless. But the boards can do as they may.




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Exactly my thoughts, because some users just try to blend in and maybe meet up activities in the gambling board in sports threads they are not familiar with and its all over the gambling discussion board. Making a good is going to be easy for you when you have some ideas and knowledge about the sports.

Most times, when am when reading the comments in the premier league thread, it really baffles me to see some of the funny shitpost users actually write. Just like the ones droped here, it clearly shows the user doesn't know what his/she is talking about.

That I agree, you will be exposed trying to appear you know something about the sports when in fact it's out of topic, and you are just borrowing opinions from other posts and trying to make it appear original, so far the majority of the posts and thread I created in sports that I did are on boxing and other contact sports, I can easily relate as I subscribe to the top boxing and contact sports pages so I am updated on some of the events on this sports.
You can easily tell in the gambling section who are into boxing and contact sports because you often see them given the latest update and insight about the events and boxers that will clash.

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Exactly my thoughts, because some users just try to blend in and maybe meet up activities in the gambling board in sports threads they are not familiar with and its all over the gambling discussion board. Making a good is going to be easy for you when you have some ideas and knowledge about the sports.
I don't post in the gambling sections very often, and the only reading I do here is when I'm reviewing posts for people.  It's definitely obvious when someone knows what they're talking about with respect to gambling, and I can also usually pick up on whether a poster is passionate about what he's writing.

Posts here tend to be a lot longer than in other sections like Bitcoin Discussion.  Is that because the gambling campaigns have fairly high character quotas?

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January 19, 2023, 07:08:22 PM
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Posts here tend to be a lot longer than in other sections like Bitcoin Discussion.  Is that because the gambling campaigns have fairly high character quotas?

There are too many game moments to discuss, especially when analyzing or defending your favorite team from opposing fans. You put all of your EMOTIONS into it, and that's one thing I don't see in the bitcoin discussion board. I'm not sure it has to do with sig character quotas.

BTW, the majority of users in the gambling board who write in mega-threads or have walls of text ( 5+ paragraph ) are usually spammers.

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It has bothered me for quite some time that a reasonable discussion on the Bundesliga is no longer possible on the Gambling Board, so today I have decided to open a new self-moderated Bundesliga thread with some clear rules: [DISCUSSION] German Bundesliga Season 22/23


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6. Good posts will be rewarded by me. So give your post some thought and get some merit.


Let's see how the thread is adopted in the future, and whether some users really switch from the old Bundesliga spam thread to my new thread. In any case, I will do my best to moderate the discussion reasonably. I guess, we will see pretty quickly whether there are really users who are interested in discussing the Bundesliga, or whether most of them only post in order to fulfil their quota for their signature campaigns.

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It has bothered me for quite some time that a reasonable discussion on the Bundesliga is no longer possible on the Gambling Board, so today I have decided to open a new self-moderated Bundesliga thread with some clear rules: [DISCUSSION] German Bundesliga Season 22/23

Let's see how the thread is adopted in the future, and whether some users really switch from the old Bundesliga spam thread to my new thread. In any case, I will do my best to moderate the discussion reasonably. I guess, we will see pretty quickly whether there are really users who are interested in discussing the Bundesliga, or whether most of them only post in order to fulfil their quota for their signature campaigns.
That's a very good initiative, I hope other people opening threads there will try to imitate you and will apply your model. It could become a norm in the gambling section in few month if people are willing to fight spam. IMO the best way to clean the gambling section is to delete shitposts ourselves and to reward quality posts. When shitposting won't pay anymore they will stop to do it.

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January 20, 2023, 02:05:35 PM
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ChatGPT and gambling board spammers I'd think would drive everything into uncontrollable overdrive if it wasn't already there pre ChatGPT.

I really want to use this site but it's hard.

I think ChatGPT won't help the spammer specially in the sports discussion threads. The reason is that ChatGPT does not have the latest data of live matches as its database contains only the matches prior to 2021. So spammers can't use ChatGPT to talk about current matches and tournaments.
But why should a user think about using ChatGPT for gambling discussion in the first place? is he that dump that can not just analyze/summarize or speak about just one particular event which took place during the just played football match or any other game on the gambling thread? Because no matter how people seems to may have spoken so well about this A.I tool, using it for gambling discussion will equally kill the thread, take away the vibes and mutual connection people normally get when trying to boost about or protect the image of their favorite football club, which I'm sure that's one thing ChatGPT can not do.

So, at this point I will like to say, lets not limit ourselves by giving what we can do to an ordinary A.I, as It only makes you lazy and reduces your level of productivity.

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It has bothered me for quite some time that a reasonable discussion on the Bundesliga is no longer possible on the Gambling Board, so today I have decided to open a new self-moderated Bundesliga thread with some clear rules: [DISCUSSION] German Bundesliga Season 22/23

This is a good initiative, JollyGood is running a similar self-moderated thread with similar rules on the EPL thread and it has really helped clear and prevent a lot of shit posters from the thread, if all the gambling threads were self-moderated the amount of spammers on that board would have been reduced to a control level at least but I also understand that not every user wants to bee moderated, which is why some reputable members are still very active on those mega spam thread I don't follow the Budesliga that closely, so I don't bother with their threads, but I hope that others who are interested in the league will take advantage of this generous offer. Merits will draw a lot of good posters.

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It has bothered me for quite some time that a reasonable discussion on the Bundesliga is no longer possible on the Gambling Board, so today I have decided to open a new self-moderated Bundesliga thread with some clear rules: [DISCUSSION] German Bundesliga Season 22/23

My little Bundesliga gambling experience is not going too well. While the non-moderated Bundesliga thread gets tons of (spam)-posts every day, the new thread is mostly overlooked by users who would regularly post something related to the Bundesliga.

Maybe one have to admit that users on a platform like Bitcointalk don't want to seriously discuss side topics like Bundesliga football or build a fun chat community around it, instead the monetary aspect is clearly in the foreground due to the bounty campaigns.

Too bad. I'll keep the thread open and see how it goes, but if I'm writing 50% of the posts myself, there's not much point to it to be honest.

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It has bothered me for quite some time that a reasonable discussion on the Bundesliga is no longer possible on the Gambling Board, so today I have decided to open a new self-moderated Bundesliga thread with some clear rules: [DISCUSSION] German Bundesliga Season 22/23

My little Bundesliga gambling experience is not going too well. While the non-moderated Bundesliga thread gets tons of (spam)-posts every day, the new thread is mostly overlooked by users who would regularly post something related to the Bundesliga.

Maybe one have to admit that users on a platform like Bitcointalk don't want to seriously discuss side topics like Bundesliga football or build a fun chat community around it, instead the monetary aspect is clearly in the foreground due to the bounty campaigns.

Too bad. I'll keep the thread open and see how it goes, but if I'm writing 50% of the posts myself, there's not much point to it to be honest.
There is too many topics abiut Bundesliga. I do all my Bundesliga writing in the pool topic and I am doing the same for all major leagues.

I belive that discussion there is the best possible since those are actually people that are willing to gamble money and not just spam the boards. So we actually already have those moderated threads and when you remove spammers and those in the pools you are left with almost no audiance.

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February 16, 2023, 10:42:05 PM
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It has bothered me for quite some time that a reasonable discussion on the Bundesliga is no longer possible on the Gambling Board, so today I have decided to open a new self-moderated Bundesliga thread with some clear rules: [DISCUSSION] German Bundesliga Season 22/23

My little Bundesliga gambling experience is not going too well. While the non-moderated Bundesliga thread gets tons of (spam)-posts every day, the new thread is mostly overlooked by users who would regularly post something related to the Bundesliga.

Maybe one have to admit that users on a platform like Bitcointalk don't want to seriously discuss side topics like Bundesliga football or build a fun chat community around it, instead the monetary aspect is clearly in the foreground due to the bounty campaigns.

Too bad. I'll keep the thread open and see how it goes, but if I'm writing 50% of the posts myself, there's not much point to it to be honest.
There is too many topics about Bundesliga. I do all my Bundesliga writing in the pool topic and I am doing the same for all major leagues.

I belive that discussion there is the best possible since those are actually people that are willing to gamble money and not just spam the boards. So we actually already have those moderated threads and when you remove spammers and those in the pools you are left with almost no audiance.

Trofo is correct, the majority of Bundesliga fans are only active in pool threads where there are users who know the game and not just random spammers trying to fill up post counts- I looked at the thread and it already has two pages of quality discussions and a few active users, so locking it is not a good idea because the thread was created a little late and is already gaining exposure and will only get better with time.

This season, I didn't pay much attention to the Bundesliga and Laliga because I don't have much access to their live matches due to the low broadcasting rights... Is there a good paid streaming platform where I can watch games?

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