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Question: Which of these clubs will progress the farthest in Europa League 2022/23?
Brighton -- Joy for the first-timers - 1 (7.1%)
Liverpool -- Say what? - 8 (57.1%)
West Ham -- Moyes magic - 0 (0%)
Real Betis --  Better luck with Roca? - 0 (0%)
Atalanta -- Best form of defence - 0 (0%)
Roma -- Mou again? - 1 (7.1%)
Leverkusen -- Better than Berlin! - 3 (21.4%)
Freiburg --  Black Forest magic - 0 (0%)
Sporting -- Forget Porto - 0 (0%)
Toulouse -- Total rebuild, total domination - 0 (0%)
Ajax -- Didn't expect them here, did we? - 0 (0%)
Others -- What? Not Rennes?! - 1 (7.1%)
Total Voters: 14

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September 08, 2022, 07:08:30 PM
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Another surprising thing came from the Ludugorets vs Roma match. Ludogorets are still leading the match with a 1 goal advantage after 70 minutes of goalless play. Roma are finding it increasingly difficult to find a way to score the goals they will likely beat if they fail to do so in the last 10 minutes. While others, Real Betis and Arsenal are still ahead of their opponents. Most likely 3 points will be safe for them today.
Roma still lost this match, apparently the match with Udinede was not an accident, Roma remained the same team that it was last season. Ludogorets is not the strongest team, but they are winning, Roma's defense doesn't seem so good now. Manchester United has an interesting squad, Ronaldo, Casemiro and Maguire are playing from the starting minutes. Can this rotation for the LE matches be considered a trial for these players? Let's see if Ronaldo can score today.

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September 08, 2022, 07:27:10 PM
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I certainly expected that Ludogorets would fight Roma and could score at least one goal, but I did not believe that they would win... I do not understand how Roma could lose to an outsider with the not best game statistics in this match... Probably Ludogorets will have a very hard time in the return match in Rome, but I guess they still have a chance to win...

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September 08, 2022, 07:39:43 PM
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My guess is that Fenerbahçe will win this match. Their team is quite strong. On the other hand, the current performance of the Dynamo Kyve team is not good. They have lost all their last four matches. Despite conceding 11 goals in four matches, they managed to score only two. Dynamo's defense is very weak. If Fenerbahçe can play a bit more aggressively then they can score at least 3 goals very easily. But I think Fenerbahçe will perform very carefully in this match. And 1-0 or 2-0 goal difference will win.
In fact Fenerbache have difficulty scoring goals. The score was still 1-1 after Victor Tsyhankov scored in the 63rd minute. I don't think Fenerbache can win this game easily even though they played well with high ball possession. But it's about taking chances and finishing well.

Another surprising thing came from the Ludugorets vs Roma match. Ludogorets are still leading the match with a 1 goal advantage after 70 minutes of goalless play. Roma are finding it increasingly difficult to find a way to score the goals they will likely beat if they fail to do so in the last 10 minutes. While others, Real Betis and Arsenal are still ahead of their opponents. Most likely 3 points will be safe for them today.

Fenerbahçe won 2-1. And I won the bet. Its performance at Fenerbahçe was quite good. Fenerbahce's coach is well aware of his team's weaknesses. So not playing too aggressively, trying to play defensively. But every attack at Fenerbahçe was well organized.

I didn't think Roma would lose today. Roma lost by 2-1. But Roma's performance was pretty good. Despite many attacks, they were unable to score. Roma's weak attacking lineup in the last few matches is very well understood. Mourinho should have brought in another experienced striker.

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September 08, 2022, 07:59:26 PM
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PSV ruined my betting day, with a Bodo draw
not sure why, but really expected them to win

Crvena Zvezda is still goalless with Monaco, hard match, not too much to see, but all the points are important there
in other match in that group, Ferencvaros is up 3:1 against Turkish champion Trabzonspor, but lost a player due to red card
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September 08, 2022, 08:03:17 PM
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Zurich 1 - 2 Arsenal  Angry

Given the fact that I bet on the victory of Arsenal with a handicap of minus one goal, I am not satisfied. The impression is like from a garbage game in a garbage competition. Arsenal in the starting lineup released one and a half players from the main squad - how can this be taken seriously? I understand that there are tournament strategies and passing games, but the group stage in the Europa League is clowning and nothing more.
You are not satisfied with the result of Arsenal 2-1 win because your bet on Arsenal win is with a handicap of minus one goal. Here you feel the disappointment, but not with Arteta and the Arsenal players, they are very satisfied with this result because they can bounce back after the defeat to Manchester United. Arsenal really need a win to restore the player's mentality, Arteta doesn't care about Arsenal winning score, the important thing is that Arsenal can win the game is enough to make Arteta heart happy.

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September 08, 2022, 08:18:46 PM
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Fenerbahçe won 2-1. And I won the bet. Its performance at Fenerbahçe was quite good. Fenerbahce's coach is well aware of his team's weaknesses. So not playing too aggressively, trying to play defensively. But every attack at Fenerbahçe was well organized.

I didn't think Roma would lose today. Roma lost by 2-1. But Roma's performance was pretty good. Despite many attacks, they were unable to score. Roma's weak attacking lineup in the last few matches is very well understood. Mourinho should have brought in another experienced striker.

It was really lovely to watch Fenerbahçe today but it was stressful at the same time. I mean especially the last moments were quite troubling.  Grin  Fenerbahçe could have got another disappointing result against Dynamo Kiev if it wasn't for Batshuayi's goal in the last moments. I really don't understand Dynamo Kiev. They are like a nightmare of my team considering the head-to-heads in the distant past as well.

As for Roma it was really surprising indeed. However this is the Europa League in the end. It's really difficult to predict what big teams would do. It looks like Roma are focused on the Serie A more now. Because they have a big chance to finish in top 4 this time as they have a good performance.

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Zurich 1 - 2 Arsenal  Angry

Given the fact that I bet on the victory of Arsenal with a handicap of minus one goal, I am not satisfied. The impression is like from a garbage game in a garbage competition. Arsenal in the starting lineup released one and a half players from the main squad - how can this be taken seriously? I understand that there are tournament strategies and passing games, but the group stage in the Europa League is clowning and nothing more.
Well, you wouldn't expect them to field a strong first 11 against an FC Zurich they probably thought wasn't that strong, would you?
It's all strategy at play, their biggest fight is in the Premier League and you want your team to be a fresh as possible if they are to beat the likes of Manchester City by points at the end of the season


Meanwhile, Manchester United just lost to Real Sociedad

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Indeed, Lazio - Feyenoord game was amazing. But Lazio win isn't surprise, they were favorites before the game.  MU is MU, you simply can't trust them. But I can't say that I'm surprised about their loss. But there always should be teams which screw up things in betting - today it was Roma and Union.

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Was a nice performance from arsenal earlier today, they start their Europa League adventure with a win and what amaze me more is how they played after resting key players like Gabriel Jesus,saka, odegard, Zincheko,and white this players are key to the way arsenal play but still they did very well and young players like manquihos and Nketial even get into the scores sheet, I think Mikel Arteta is doing a good job there and the players are buying into his idea,with the right transfers next season,I think arteta will have a team to challenge the likes of city and Liverpool for titles.

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September 08, 2022, 09:43:13 PM
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Meanwhile, Manchester United just lost to Real Sociedad
I wouldn't say I was quite surprised with the results for Manchester United I think the coach already has only one squad and doesn't know how to properly rotate the players yet. Ronaldo still failed to score his first goal of the season regardless of him starting today.

After the game, a Manchester United supporter on my whatsapp, came to my DM to argue about the penalty that was awarded saying that it was not a penalty and they were robbed. I don't see how true that is, because it was double checked by VAR and I'm certain the officials had their reasons for awarding it. Plus Manchester United could have equalised if the they had played really well and made use of their opportunities, the credibility of the penalty would not have come up as a topic for debate.

Congratulations Arsenal, a well deserved victory.

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I certainly expected that Ludogorets would fight Roma and could score at least one goal, but I did not believe that they would win... I do not understand how Roma could lose to an outsider with the not best game statistics in this match... Probably Ludogorets will have a very hard time in the return match in Rome, but I guess they still have a chance to win...

Sometimes things like this can happen in the first leg and the determination is in the second leg Besides, Rome is only behind 1 goal it's not a difficult thing
We still remember Roma last season was the champion of the conference league and this season their squad is better so I don't doubt Roma.
By the way Manchester United also lost 0-1 vs Sociedad well this is a bit surprising even though Man United play at home.

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September 08, 2022, 10:03:42 PM
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Meanwhile, Manchester United just lost to Real Sociedad
I wouldn't say I was quite surprised with the results for Manchester United I think the coach already has only one squad and doesn't know how to properly rotate the players yet. Ronaldo still failed to score his first goal of the season regardless of him starting today.

After the game, a Manchester United supporter on my whatsapp, came to my DM to argue about the penalty that was awarded saying that it was not a penalty and they were robbed. I don't see how true that is, because it was double checked by VAR and I'm certain the officials had their reasons for awarding it. Plus Manchester United could have equalised if the they had played really well and made use of their opportunities, the credibility of the penalty would not have come up as a topic for debate.

Congratulations Arsenal, a well deserved victory.

Manchester United, haven't played a nice game this season, though they might have won three matches on a row, but if you take a good look at those matches you will observe that their pattern of play is very poor, cause they easily loose the ball, and they always allow their opponent to gain the possessions, And that's a really poor performance from them. To me loosing to Real sociedad is not a coincidence, cause the team Haven't being in a better shape this season, they're not well organized, and I think the coach really needs to act fast.

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United looked a bit off tonight while not being able to score at home against Real Sociedad. Ronaldo did start but didn't look great up front while missing a chance, he only had 2 shots and both were off target. It is crazy how things have turned for him. I guess its all psychological.

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September 09, 2022, 08:21:22 AM
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Hate to say this but United were the better team last night really. If not for some close offsides, hesitance from Ronaldo (old CR7 would first time 3 of his chances but he took a second too long), and a poor penalty call (I hate those hand ball nonsense I know intent is no longer part of the decision but surely a deflection and natural hand positions still count).

PSV ruined my betting day, with a Bodo draw
not sure why, but really expected them to win

They also ruined me, I had Bodo to win, I just find Dutch teams totally suspect, except for Ajax (who, even so, are one of the flimsiest squads when it comes to crunch time).


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September 09, 2022, 08:46:18 AM
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United looked a bit off tonight while not being able to score at home against Real Sociedad. Ronaldo did start but didn't look great up front while missing a chance, he only had 2 shots and both were off target. It is crazy how things have turned for him. I guess its all psychological.
On the whole, they didn't play an entirely bad football yesterday, it was more of hardback for them and some due to Harry Maguires influence. I mean, its no pleasure for any one to play under a bad captain. After putging in all your best, in one wrong move from the captain, a lot could be messed up and so is all your efforts. This makes it difficult for the players to put in there best and its also difficult for Maguire to talk to the players as his the one making most of the errors but, its different while Bruno Fernández  captains the team.

Ronaldo could be said to begoing through hard times as, his not in his champions league competition no more, his attempts to leave the team was frustrated and he played from the bench which is so unusual for an elite player like him.

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September 09, 2022, 09:34:57 AM
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I really don't understand how Trabzonspor can play this much poorly. They had a huge opportunity to win after Ferencvaros got a red card in the 16th minute already. However Ferencvaros scored two more goals after the red card. And it would have been even worse as they wasted many more chances. Trabzonspor normally have a much better squad than them but their recent form has been really bad. This must have played a big role in this 3-2 loss. If their third goal wasn't disallowed due to offside they would have got one point at least. I didn't understand what Trezeguet was doing in the last minute also. He chose to turn back instead of whipping a cross and the referee finished the match after that.

This can't go on for Trabzonspor like this. They aren't joining this tournament for the first time. Ferencvaros have been an in-form team these days but normally they are not a team that Trabzonspor can't defeat.

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September 09, 2022, 10:21:38 AM
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United looked a bit off tonight while not being able to score at home against Real Sociedad. Ronaldo did start but didn't look great up front while missing a chance, he only had 2 shots and both were off target. It is crazy how things have turned for him. I guess its all psychological.
On the whole, they didn't play an entirely bad football yesterday, it was more of hardback for them and some due to Harry Maguires influence. I mean, its no pleasure for any one to play under a bad captain. After putging in all your best, in one wrong move from the captain, a lot could be messed up and so is all your efforts. This makes it difficult for the players to put in there best and its also difficult for Maguire to talk to the players as his the one making most of the errors but, its different while Bruno Fernández  captains the team.

Ronaldo could be said to begoing through hard times as, his not in his champions league competition no more, his attempts to leave the team was frustrated and he played from the bench which is so unusual for an elite player like him.

United played well last night and only badluck made the game to end with Sociedad victory because without that penalty , Sociedad had almost 0 chances to score but why didn't United score ? they had great chances , they have great players and the game was in their favor so maybe just an unfortunate night overall for United ?

Meanwhile , Arsenal looks like they are super ready this year to have a long campaign into Europa League so reaching semi-finals should be a thing to reach.

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United lol! Well, I think that is indeed the problem with Premier League teams. They underestimate all the opponents from other leagues who are not champions. If they play Real Madrid or Barca or maybe Atletico, then sure, they would respect them. But meet Villareal, meet Real Sociedad, and then they think 3 points is already in the bag and easy.

I do have to feel sorry though, the penalty was soooo soft

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September 09, 2022, 11:56:40 AM
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United lol! Well, I think that is indeed the problem with Premier League teams. They underestimate all the opponents from other leagues who are not champions. If they play Real Madrid or Barca or maybe Atletico, then sure, they would respect them. But meet Villareal, meet Real Sociedad, and then they think 3 points is already in the bag and easy.

I do have to feel sorry though, the penalty was soooo soft
United tried their best to get back to the game but Real Sociedad made their defense so formidable. One of the issue united had was inaccurate passes from the midfield to the forward on few ocassions. It was either too short to get through or too fast to catch up with. But Manu defense was a bit ok even with Maguire at the starting ix.

The penalty shoot out was sweet but United were denied theirs
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United lol! Well, I think that is indeed the problem with Premier League teams. They underestimate all the opponents from other leagues who are not champions. If they play Real Madrid or Barca or maybe Atletico, then sure, they would respect them. But meet Villareal, meet Real Sociedad, and then they think 3 points is already in the bag and easy.

I do have to feel sorry though, the penalty was soooo soft
Why would the underrate a team that is better than them, but for me I don't see it like that, I don't think Manchester United underrate  Real Sociadad in that fixture last night, United played well, they would have done more in scoring goals because they are playing at home but if you consider how they perform against Brentford and Brighton in the premier League this season you will know they have improved but they need to do better, but lot of players that has improved the side didn't start the game,players like rashford,Sancho and Martinez were all at the bench.

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