The Russian Federation may be about to make a "Corralito"

[paxmao]

EDITED (5 JUL 2022) to add:

And... voila, here you are step number one. Next one may be confiscation.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-02-28/card/putin-imposes-capital-controls-including-restrictions-on-external-debt-payments-Kedzfom80kQtl1B7xaRs

Russian President Vladimir Putin banned residents from sending money to bank accounts abroad and blocked payments on external debt, aggressive controls on capital flow made in response to punishing Western sanctions.

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Investors on Monday sent yields on Russia's dollar-denominated bonds issued offshore soaring to over 24%. They were less than 3% to start the year.

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Some of you know about the Argentinian corralito, by which Argentinians, from one day to the next, were not allowed to recover their USD that were converted into "pesos" at the "official rate". They were not able either to get much out the bank (was it 400 a month?).

Well, the recent economic measures taken in Russian Federation by their local despot may end up in something similar. For now:

https://sanctionsnews.bakermckenzie.com/russia-imposes-special-economic-measures-in-response-to-western-sanctions/

Russian exporters starting from February 28, 2022 are obliged to sell 80 % of foreign currency received from foreign trade contracts and obliged to sell 80 % of foreign currency credited from January 1, 2022
Russian residents are prohibited from lending to foreigners in foreign currency
Russian residents will not be able to put foreign currency on their accounts and deposits in foreign banks
Russian residents will not be able to transfer funds to foreign banks without opening a bank account using electronic means of payment provided by foreign providers of payment services
The ban comes into force on March 1, 2022.

A new "package" for locals may be about to come. Bitcoin may be the answer.

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[Hispo]

Assuming that Rusia is indeed in the way to apply such measures in order to stop the flight of capital off Russia, that means that they are either actually suffering from the sanctions (more than they would like to admit) or they are preparing themselves to live with a cut of their income in the long run.

I assume the second scenario is more likely, keeping in mind Russia still have some economical allies and the price of fuels is high.

[jackg]

Perhaps this is what forced the price of the ruble higher too, if a bunch of companies had to liqudiate most of their contract sales to rubles (and potentially foreign stock holdings) then it likely caused that spike.

[Ozero]

The obligation for Russians to sell 80% of foreign currency received under foreign trade contracts was introduced back in February, and now this rule has been canceled due to a sharp drop in imports and an artificial strengthening of the ruble.
Recently, Russia has another problem. She was declared default due to non-payment of a debt in the amount of one hundred million dollars, which is not a big problem for Russia, but due to the imposed sanctions, she actually cannot pay in dollars and tried to make payments in rubles. This has happened for the first time since 1918. Every day, problems in Russia due to sanctions will increase until it stops its war of conquest in Ukraine.

[Pomogator]

Assuming that Rusia is indeed in the way to apply such measures in order to stop the flight of capital off Russia, that means that they are either actually suffering from the sanctions (more than they would like to admit) or they are preparing themselves to live with a cut of their income in the long run.

I assume the second scenario is more likely, keeping in mind Russia still have some economical allies and the price of fuels is high.

I think this is done to maximize the rejection of dollar support. This is Russia's new policy after the freezing of their foreign assets. Now the emphasis is on the national currency and the currency of the allied states. Refusal to pay debt obligations in dollars already speaks volumes. Instead, the payment went in the national currency.

[Poker Player]

 The Russian Federation may be about...

Hey paxmao, you seem not to have noticed that this news is 4 months old. Russia is not about to do anything, those measures were already taken. So if you want to talk about corralito you better say that in Russia there is a corralito since 4 months ago.

I see a lot of talk about how badly Russia is doing, but I believe that it is not as bad as the Western media would have us believe.

[Flexystar]

That is good way to surpass the sanctions isn’t it? Russia is somehow tackling the issues of financial sanctions from all over the world through their careful planning and process of making the Ruble stronger. This could also help their locals to do business at higher confidence since they have strong currency now.

I am not sure how this has any correlation with the bitcoin but assuming the situation Russian federation may allow their people to use it in the want of bringing foreign currencies into ruble through crypto tunnel.

[paxmao]

The Russian Federation may be about...

Hey paxmao, you seem not to have noticed that this news is 4 months old. Russia is not about to do anything, those measures were already taken. So if you want to talk about corralito you better say that in Russia there is a corralito since 4 months ago.

I see a lot of talk about how badly Russia is doing, but I believe that it is not as bad as the Western media would have us believe.

I am aware, it is not recent news and it has been turned down. However it is a hint of what may happen if sanctions start biting.

In so far as how the Russian Federation is doing, at the moment well enough to finance the war, due to the price of oil and the slow pace of the effects of sanctions however the living conditions of the ordinary people are affected (unemployment, low growth,...) and this has only started. You will not see any media providing local and accurate news, but it does not mean that "nothing is happening".

One thing is clear, you do not need a 10% interest rate to sustain a currency that is "doing well".

[stompix]

That is a good way to surpass the sanctions isn’t it? Russia is somehow tackling the issues of financial sanctions from all over the world through their careful planning and process of making the Ruble stronger. This could also help their locals to do business at higher confidence since they have strong currency now.

Indeed genius move...
I wonder if your government would seize your Bitcoins, decide one is worth 10 000 dollars and convert 80% into some useless currency like a rupiah or a rial, would you still cheer this genius move that will help all their locals and their economy?

It doesn't matter how strong the ruble is on paper, in reality, nobody gives a damn about that, look at car prices in Russia every single one of them is two to three times more expensive as everyone knows that's not the real rate, it's the artificial methods of keeping a currency afloat that has driven a lot of people to bitcoin and you're here preaching about capital control and assets seizures?

I see a lot of talk about how badly Russia is doing, but I believe that it is not as bad as the Western media would have us believe.

Sanctions need time to bite, everyone was saying how sanctions don't work as Iran is doing...great 



50% inflation, 80% in poverty, 20-30% drop in food purchases as they can't afford even carrots. Wait for it, it will be worse than the crash the USSR went through.

[fiulpro]

The government have been trying to do this since the war started to keep the value of rubles above and about and they have succeeded up until now. I do think that the locals might try and : Move to some other country since no one can live like that and at the same time be able to do everything normally since the foreign companies would also start to get out of Russia. Considering bitcoins, it is included into the sanctions as well therefore at the end of the day I do think that eventually it would be harder for people to buy properties in foreign countries through bitcoins as some Russians will doing it, this is going to cause a massive unrest in the public sector and the government as well.

[Lucius]

Sanctions need time to bite, everyone was saying how sanctions don't work as Iran is doing...great 

All objective analyzes say that Russia will start feeling sanctions only in 2-3 years, provided that those who imposed them actually implement them. But what few mention is that Russia and its rulers have never cared too much for the common people, and are willing to sacrifice human lives and the standard of their people as long as it takes to achieve their goals that are now more than clear, creating great Russia within its historical borders.

Every day I hear about war crimes happening in Ukraine unseen since World War II (and crimes are undoubtedly happening), but everyone has obviously forgotten what happened in the Balkans 30 years ago when Serbs committed far more horrific war crimes in Vukovar and Srebrenica (and hundreds of other places) for which they were rewarded today with accession negotiations for EU entry.

I'm just wondering how long it will take the world to start pretending that nothing happened, 10 years after the war or maybe a few years more?

[be.open]

Sanctions need time to bite, everyone was saying how sanctions don't work as Iran is doing...great  

All objective analyzes say that Russia will start feeling sanctions only in 2-3 years, provided that those who imposed them actually implement them. But what few mention is that Russia and its rulers have never cared too much for the common people, and are willing to sacrifice human lives and the standard of their people as long as it takes to achieve their goals that are now more than clear, creating great Russia within its historical borders.

Every day I hear about war crimes happening in Ukraine unseen since World War II (and crimes are undoubtedly happening), but everyone has obviously forgotten what happened in the Balkans 30 years ago when Serbs committed far more horrific war crimes in Vukovar and Srebrenica (and hundreds of other places) for which they were rewarded today with accession negotiations for EU entry.

I'm just wondering how long it will take the world to start pretending that nothing happened, 10 years after the war or maybe a few years more?

I think Europe will only need one cold enough winter to get all the renewable energy shit out of its head.

[Darker45]

And some people are still happily proclaiming that the Russian ruble is the world's strongest currency as if everything's not artificial and fake. All these extreme totalitarian measures are the reasons why the country's currency is still breathing. Without all these controls, it will crash.

So it's not a maybe for Bitcoin; it is the answer. Unless perhaps if they are already brainwashed to the bones that they think it is wiser to save in ruble than Bitcoin.

[Haunebu]

Russia is already dependent on BTC and some other cryptocurrencies to some extent, but the constant sanctions will definitely increase their dependence on them even more as time passes.

They keep acting like their economy is fine which is obviously a lie and anyone with a half-decent brain can see that. Recent gold imports ban was another big blow to them.

[VKcams.com]

Recent gold imports ban was another big blow to them.

Make a world map of the countries that support this ban.
And look at what BRICS is.

1$ = 53 rub

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Perhaps this is what forced the price of the ruble higher too, if a bunch of companies had to liqudiate most of their contract sales to rubles (and potentially foreign stock holdings) then it likely caused that spike.

Hmm.  I know I've brought this up multiple times over the years, but does anyone remember Long Term Capital Management from 1997-8?  It was Russia defaulting on their debt that almost brought down the economies of the US and probably other countries as well.  Hopefully there aren't any gigantic hedge funds these days using massive leverage to trade foreign currency....hopefully.

And no one saw that near-disaster coming either.

[naira]

Perhaps this is what forced the price of the ruble higher too, if a bunch of companies had to liqudiate most of their contract sales to rubles (and potentially foreign stock holdings) then it likely caused that spike.

It's true, this kind of financial implementation scheme is almost the same as what we saw about the wartime Ruble strengthening plan. Besides, it is clear that in order to organize the power of the country's currency and limit the circulation of foreign money. Trying to get people used to it little by little eroding foreign money. Based on the sources above that the agreed date and year, without us knowing it from the start, Russia prepared the ruble financially, followed by the tragedy at the end of February.

[Fortify]

Some of you know about the Argentinian corralito, by which Argentinians, from one day to the next, were not allowed to recover their USD that were converted into "pesos" at the "official rate". They were not able either to get much out the bank (was it 400 a month?).

Well, the recent economic measures taken in Russian Federation by their local despot may end up in something similar. For now:

https://sanctionsnews.bakermckenzie.com/russia-imposes-special-economic-measures-in-response-to-western-sanctions/

Russian exporters starting from February 28, 2022 are obliged to sell 80 % of foreign currency received from foreign trade contracts and obliged to sell 80 % of foreign currency credited from January 1, 2022
Russian residents are prohibited from lending to foreigners in foreign currency
Russian residents will not be able to put foreign currency on their accounts and deposits in foreign banks
Russian residents will not be able to transfer funds to foreign banks without opening a bank account using electronic means of payment provided by foreign providers of payment services
The ban comes into force on March 1, 2022.

A new "package" for locals may be about to come. Bitcoin may be the answer.

As Europe slowly pivots away from Russian energy supplies, the final major source of income it receives is going to dry up or at least drop substantially as other countries will pay less for it. Claims that the rouble is strong are undermined when we see these sort of capital controls in place, if it was allowed to float and trade in a free market then we would see a huge outflow of money trying to escape Russia - as it is a very risky and unstable business environment, which is very bad for finances.

[Lucius]

I think Europe will only need one cold enough winter to get all the renewable energy shit out of its head.

EU bureaucrats have always presented themselves as extra smart, and now they have turned out to be almost the dumbest when it comes to energy policy. It's not just green energy, but that almost 500 million people now live in fear that they will not be able to heat next winter, or that the price of fuel will reach 3 EUR per liter, so they will have to ride bicycles or use public transport.

The utterly failed policy of making so many people dependent on just one country for oil and gas will hit those in power now. Parliamentary elections in France have shown that some radical political options will get more and more space, and Russia is counting on such an outcome. The real war may end in a few months, but the Cold War will last for years and will have far more severe consequences than in the past.

[VKcams.com]

the price of fuel will reach 3 EUR per liter, so they will have to ride bicycles or use public transport.

It's ridiculous money compared to income in Europe.
In Bulgaria and Romania and Estonia it would be hard, of course.

[zasad@]

Some of you know about the Argentinian corralito, by which Argentinians, from one day to the next, were not allowed to recover their USD that were converted into "pesos" at the "official rate". They were not able either to get much out the bank (was it 400 a month?).

Well, the recent economic measures taken in Russian Federation by their local despot may end up in something similar. For now:

https://sanctionsnews.bakermckenzie.com/russia-imposes-special-economic-measures-in-response-to-western-sanctions/

Russian exporters starting from February 28, 2022 are obliged to sell 80 % of foreign currency received from foreign trade contracts and obliged to sell 80 % of foreign currency credited from January 1, 2022
Russian residents are prohibited from lending to foreigners in foreign currency
Russian residents will not be able to put foreign currency on their accounts and deposits in foreign banks
Russian residents will not be able to transfer funds to foreign banks without opening a bank account using electronic means of payment provided by foreign providers of payment services
The ban comes into force on March 1, 2022.

A new "package" for locals may be about to come. Bitcoin may be the answer.

You are posting old information.

May, 23rd
The authorities allowed exporters to sell 50% of foreign exchange earnings instead of 80%
https://www.forbes.ru/finansy/466417-vlasti-razresili-eksporteram-prodavat-50-valutnoj-vyrucki-vmesto-80

June 10th
The Ministry of Finance canceled the requirement to sell foreign exchange earnings
The decision concerns both raw and non-commodity exports and applies to export contracts in any foreign currency
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/10/06/2022/62a31eb29a7947f20a821820

The sanctions are directed against Europe. The Chinese and Turks will take a large share of European business in Russia.

[Ozero]

That is good way to surpass the sanctions isn’t it? Russia is somehow tackling the issues of financial sanctions from all over the world through their careful planning and process of making the Ruble stronger. This could also help their locals to do business at higher confidence since they have strong currency now.

I am not sure how this has any correlation with the bitcoin but assuming the situation Russian federation may allow their people to use it in the want of bringing foreign currencies into ruble through crypto tunnel.

Careful planning to strengthen the ruble exchange rate? Feverish measures aimed at saving the ruble, quite unexpectedly for Russia, led to a completely opposite negative result, since the strengthening of the ruble greatly harms the country's financial system and its industry.

A record number of sanctions have been imposed against Russia. At the same time, thousands of the largest companies in the world, in protest against the aggressive policy of the Kremlin, began to curtail cooperation with Russia. The country's imports collapsed, exports began to decline rapidly.

The disaster was recognized by the head of the Ministry of Economic Development Maxim Reshetnikov, as reported by the Russian media.
Reshetnikov called on the Central Bank to take urgent measures to weaken the ruble, predicting the collapse of Russian industry. He noted that the profitability of a number of Russian export-related industries became negative due to the inadequately low exchange rate of the national currency.

Now I can tell how the issues of international sanctions are being resolved in Russia and how the Kremlin is trying to circumvent them. Putin recently signed a law legalizing smuggling in his country. We are talking about the legalization of the so-called parallel imports. This law gives the Russian government the right to determine goods for which Russian companies will not be held criminally, administratively or civilly liable for smuggling. The list, in particular, included equipment and electronics, weapons, soap, medicines. The list included products from brands such as Samsung, Siemens, Apple, Panasonic, Intel, Asus, Logitech, GoPro and Electolux.
This is the piracy way in which international issues are resolved by a terrorist state.

[kryptqnick]

To be honest, I thought they already have something like corralito. As the op mentions, the 80% selling requirement was introduced on February 28 and additional limits in the spring as well. So heavy restrictions are already available, but I don't think more will follow just because of the technical default. The default is, after all, technical, for Russia has the money but can't transfer it internationally due to sanctions. That means that inside the country, there are funds, and I don't think people will run from fiat much (not after it got stabilized quite well in Russia).

[paxmao]

I think Europe will only need one cold enough winter to get all the renewable energy shit out of its head.

EU bureaucrats have always presented themselves as extra smart, and now they have turned out to be almost the dumbest when it comes to energy policy. It's not just green energy, but that almost 500 million people now live in fear that they will not be able to heat next winter, or that the price of fuel will reach 3 EUR per liter, so they will have to ride bicycles or use public transport.

The utterly failed policy of making so many people dependent on just one country for oil and gas will hit those in power now. Parliamentary elections in France have shown that some radical political options will get more and more space, and Russia is counting on such an outcome. The real war may end in a few months, but the Cold War will last for years and will have far more severe consequences than in the past.

Yeah yeah... when this happens, when that happens, when this when that...

Sure, I can picture Germany, with lignite enough to burn the moon, having "cold" in winter. Count on that.

EU bureaucrats are what they are, but if you want to compare them with the "genius" in charge of the RF Orc army... well... then they are smart.

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Careful planning to strengthen the ruble exchange rate? Feverish measures aimed at saving the ruble, quite unexpectedly for Russia, led to a completely opposite negative result, since the strengthening of the ruble greatly harms the country's financial system and its industry.
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Not to mention having to pay Ponzi scheme level interests on debt and savings.

[Poker Player]

the price of fuel will reach 3 EUR per liter, so they will have to ride bicycles or use public transport.

It's ridiculous money compared to income in Europe.
In Bulgaria and Romania and Estonia it would be hard, of course.

And in Greece and Italy and Spain. Also, not everyone in countries like Germany has high incomes. High income earners won't be so affected, obviously but to call it ridiculous money is quite short-sighted because the price of gasoline affects supermarket prices, because the products are transported, and many are wrapped in plastic, many of which are petroleum derivatives.

[VKcams.com]

Italy

Don't worry about Italy, prices are already 2.30. It's practically 3.

[ChrisPop]

Bitcoin certainly looks like a very good solution and somehow of a safe-haven for the russian population. I mean Russia hasn't banned cryptocurrencies, quite the contrary --> they have stated they are accepting payments in Bitcoin from their partners. Fiat is a very risky instrument to store your wealth right now due to political and economic uncertainties. Why would I want to hold Ruble besides covering my monthly expenses when the whole world is against the country's government?

There is one thing I know --> when the state performs major interventions in the economy, the long-term effects are most of the time catastrophic

[Hispo]

Assuming that Rusia is indeed in the way to apply such measures in order to stop the flight of capital off Russia, that means that they are either actually suffering from the sanctions (more than they would like to admit) or they are preparing themselves to live with a cut of their income in the long run.

I assume the second scenario is more likely, keeping in mind Russia still have some economical allies and the price of fuels is high.

I think this is done to maximize the rejection of dollar support. This is Russia's new policy after the freezing of their foreign assets. Now the emphasis is on the national currency and the currency of the allied states. Refusal to pay debt obligations in dollars already speaks volumes. Instead, the payment went in the national currency.

This makes me wonder how much confidence the Russian people have in their currency. This kind of measures have been taken here in Venezuela and in Argentina because the high inflation and loss of faith in the national currency.

Assuming the average Russian citizen still have faith on their currency, could not one clasify this as a way to artificially increase or keep the value of the Russian Ruble against USD and EUR ?

This makes me doubt of the economical support Putin have from the population, to be honest.

[Lucius]

Don't worry about Italy, prices are already 2.30. It's practically 3.

Simple math says that there really is a difference if the price of 1 liter of fuel is now 2.30 EUR because that would mean that for a full tank of about 50 liters, the owner should pay 115 EUR, while at a price of 3 EUR, he should pay 150 EUR. That difference may not seem too big to you, but apart from Bulgaria and Romania that you mentioned, average salaries are relatively low in Greece or Croatia. 35 EUR more for a fuel tank means a lot to someone, especially for those who use their vehicle every day.

Compared to last year, the price of fuel in Russia is more than 50% higher - tanks and military machinery consume too much?

https://autotraveler.ru/en/russia/trend-price-fuel-russia.html

[be.open]

Compared to last year, the price of fuel in Russia is more than 50% higher - tanks and military machinery consume too much?

https://autotraveler.ru/en/russia/trend-price-fuel-russia.html

The increase in the price of fuel in dollars and euros is due to the fall in the value of the dollar and euro against the ruble. If you scroll down a little on your link, there is a graph of the price of fuel in rubles and it has not changed much over the year (AI-95 + 1.27%, Diesel + 9.3%, LPG -19.11%).

[zasad@]

At the beginning of the year, gasoline prices in Russia fell by about 7-10%.
Do you know why wages are so low in Russia?
The lower the costs in Russia, the more profit foreign companies receive, which buy cheap raw materials in Russia.

[yhiaali3]

The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

[VKcams.com]

The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians.

I can't speak for everyone, but in Italy the exporters are sure to be fucked up.

[DrBeer]

Assuming that Rusia is indeed in the way to apply such measures in order to stop the flight of capital off Russia, that means that they are either actually suffering from the sanctions (more than they would like to admit) or they are preparing themselves to live with a cut of their income in the long run.
I assume the second scenario is more likely, keeping in mind Russia still have some economical allies and the price of fuels is high.

This is not an attempt to restrain the outflow of capital, it is made easier - a ban on foreign exchange transactions and that's it - you won't be able to take out much in suitcases, if at all you can take it out.
The problem is the collapse of the Russian economy. All these fakes of theirs that they fed the world with - the second most powerful army in the world, a stable and strong economy, the whole world depends on Russia, etc. nonsense, were on the air so massively and for a long time that they themselves believed in it. But the reality turned out to be much more deplorable - a backward resource economy, a primitive army, which, in fact, was stopped by the small and underarmed army of Ukraine, and not only stopped, but also forced to cowardly flee back to Russia and Belarus! And the economy without a currency - does not work in Russia - they are dependent on Western technologies in almost everything, and if they are sold, then only for currency - no one needs a fake ruble with a fake exchange rate. And you also need to feed and support the collapsing and losing army and security officials (the National Guard, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB) - otherwise who will protect the miserable likeness of the Kremlin Fuhrer from the people? In a year we will return to this issue, I'm sure everyone will already talk about Russia in the past tense

[darewaller]

Most people may have some hard time digesting the conversation here, well – let me throw some more light into what we are talking about. Corralito was actually the informal name for the economic measures that were taken by the Argentine government to limit the level of cash withdrawals in the country to around 250 Argentine peso in a week. But this in no way did not affect the transfer of money using electronic means, and neither did it disrupt the use of credit and debit card for payments.

it is clear that in order to organize the power of the country's currency and limit the circulation of foreign money. Trying to get people used to it little by little eroding foreign money. Based on the sources above that the agreed date and year, without us knowing it from the start, Russia prepared the ruble financially, followed by the tragedy at the end of February.

At one point, I actually felt that something else was responsible for the strengthening of the rouble. And as a matter of fact, the combination of sanctions, which tanked imports, and Russia’s commodity exports, which were actually boosted by very high and uncomfortable prices, gave the ruble its further upward momentum. Russia also demanded European nations pay for natural gas in rubles, at this point, a lot of things got messy.

But with the aim of wanting to support the currency, the Russian government made a claim of pegging it to 1 gold.

[sovie]

Most people may have some hard time digesting the conversation here, well – let me throw some more light into what we are talking about. Corralito was actually the informal name for the economic measures that were taken by the Argentine government to limit the level of cash withdrawals in the country to around 250 Argentine peso in a week. But this in no way did not affect the transfer of money using electronic means, and neither did it disrupt the use of credit and debit card for payments.

it is clear that in order to organize the power of the country's currency and limit the circulation of foreign money. Trying to get people used to it little by little eroding foreign money. Based on the sources above that the agreed date and year, without us knowing it from the start, Russia prepared the ruble financially, followed by the tragedy at the end of February.

At one point, I actually felt that something else was responsible for the strengthening of the rouble. And as a matter of fact, the combination of sanctions, which tanked imports, and Russia’s commodity exports, which were actually boosted by very high and uncomfortable prices, gave the ruble its further upward momentum. Russia also demanded European nations pay for natural gas in rubles, at this point, a lot of things got messy.

But with the aim of wanting to support the currency, the Russian government made a claim of pegging it to 1 gold.

Heard in my local new that Russian asked the buyers to pay in Ruble. But I am sure USA will not let this happen as the world follows the petrodollar rule.
If the world starts paying in Ruble than surly the Ruble will get strength which is not what EU and USA would want. But whatever the situation is Russian economy will not collapse that is for sure.

[Sithara007]

Heard in my local new that Russian asked the buyers to pay in Ruble. But I am sure USA will not let this happen as the world follows the petrodollar rule.
If the world starts paying in Ruble than surly the Ruble will get strength which is not what EU and USA would want. But whatever the situation is Russian economy will not collapse that is for sure.

Here in India, some of the private companies are already importing Russian crude oil and coal by making the payment in Chinese Yuan and UAE Dirhams. They can't pay the Russians in Euros or USD due to the sanctions. As a result Chinese Yuan is now increasingly being used for international trade involving Russian commodities. Hardly anyone prefer the Ruble right now, because of its volatility. Some of the companies explored the possibility of making the payments using the Indian Rupee, but the Russians were not interested.

[Poker Player]

Here in India, some of the private companies are already importing Russian crude oil and coal by making the payment in Chinese Yuan and UAE Dirhams. They can't pay the Russians in Euros or USD due to the sanctions. As a result Chinese Yuan is now increasingly being used for international trade involving Russian commodities. Hardly anyone prefer the Ruble right now, because of its volatility. Some of the companies explored the possibility of making the payments using the Indian Rupee, but the Russians were not interested.

In other words, the USA is shooting itself in the foot. Who would have thought it. Just to think that Gaddafi was killed for wanting to sell oil in Euros. And Saddam Hussein the same. There you have the weapons of mass destruction.

[tvbcof]

https://dailycoin.com/russia-will-approve-bitcoin-as-legal-currency/

Sweet!  I could use a barge full of diesel and JP4 for my yacht and airplane.  I plan to tour the world laughing at all the cold hungry idiots who got taken by the climate scammers and hit with Biden's energy hikes, food shortages, and etc.

[Sithara007]

https://dailycoin.com/russia-will-approve-bitcoin-as-legal-currency/

Sweet!  I could use a barge full of diesel and JP4 for my yacht and airplane.  I plan to tour the world laughing at all the cold hungry idiots who got taken by the climate scammers and hit with Biden's energy hikes, food shortages, and etc.

This is not accurate. Bitcoin is not a legal tender anywhere in the Russian Federation (including the 22 constituent republics). Just yesterday the Roskomnadzor blocked access to Bits.media, which is one of the most popular crypto news websites in Russia. And the Duma is about to vote on a bill, that will prohibit the usage of Bitcoin for making payments. Bitcoin miners also need to prove that they are converting their mined coins to fiat currency inside Russia (they can only exchange BTC for foreign currency).

[Poker Player]

https://dailycoin.com/russia-will-approve-bitcoin-as-legal-currency/

Sweet!  I could use a barge full of diesel and JP4 for my yacht and airplane.  I plan to tour the world laughing at all the cold hungry idiots who got taken by the climate scammers and hit with Biden's energy hikes, food shortages, and etc.

This is not accurate. Bitcoin is not a legal tender anywhere in the Russian Federation (including the 22 constituent republics).

If he had only looked at the date, he would have seen that it is a "news" from February 10 of this year. In other words, a garbage article from an unreliable site to say the least, and on top of that he puts the link here boasting as if it were breaking news.

[zasad@]

https://dailycoin.com/russia-will-approve-bitcoin-as-legal-currency/

Sweet!  I could use a barge full of diesel and JP4 for my yacht and airplane.  I plan to tour the world laughing at all the cold hungry idiots who got taken by the climate scammers and hit with Biden's energy hikes, food shortages, and etc.

This is not accurate. Bitcoin is not a legal tender anywhere in the Russian Federation (including the 22 constituent republics). Just yesterday the Roskomnadzor blocked access to Bits.media, which is one of the most popular crypto news websites in Russia. And the Duma is about to vote on a bill, that will prohibit the usage of Bitcoin for making payments. Bitcoin miners also need to prove that they are converting their mined coins to fiat currency inside Russia (they can only exchange BTC for foreign currency).

The territorial composition of Russia includes not only republics. More details on this page.
http://kcbux.ru/Statyy/ZA_zizny/za-016_karta-RF.html
I have said many times that it is not worth reading news about draft laws in Russia, because they change very often.
In Russia, large shadow markets, exchangers operate in all major cities.

[Sithara007]

The territorial composition of Russia includes not only republics. More details on this page.
http://kcbux.ru/Statyy/ZA_zizny/za-016_karta-RF.html
I have said many times that it is not worth reading news about draft laws in Russia, because they change very often.
In Russia, large shadow markets, exchangers operate in all major cities.

OK.. since you are residing in Russia, you maybe having access to better information. For me it is confusing, because I have heard about contradicting news regarding the status of Bitcoin in Russia.

In other words, the USA is shooting itself in the foot. Who would have thought it. Just to think that Gaddafi was killed for wanting to sell oil in Euros. And Saddam Hussein the same. There you have the weapons of mass destruction.

The United States is misusing the position of USD as the global trade and reserve currency. This position enables them to take loans worth trillions, at extremely low interest rates. In short, US is getting rich at the expense of other countries (who use USD for international trade). But there is no alternative available as of now. Other fiat currencies (including EUR and CNY) are even more prone to inflation when compared to the USD. I would prefer a decentralized currency such as Bitcoin, but only two countries have made it legal tender till now.

[justdimin]

The United States is misusing the position of USD as the global trade and reserve currency. This position enables them to take loans worth trillions, at extremely low interest rates. In short, US is getting rich at the expense of other countries (who use USD for international trade). But there is no alternative available as of now. Other fiat currencies (including EUR and CNY) are even more prone to inflation when compared to the USD. I would prefer a decentralized currency such as Bitcoin, but only two countries have made it legal tender till now.

I would guess that getting cheap interests on trillions of dollars worth of debt is not "misusing" at all, they are using it exactly how it should be used for them. It is the other nations that allow them to do that, so it is wrong for those nations, and if they do not accept it then they would not be getting such a bead deal.

You want to really screw with USA? Go work with China. Sure China is not a good nation at all, weirdly enough one of the only few nations that could be considered worse than USA, which is rare because there are so few of that. But then USA would realize their mistake and would recover their relation with you for sure in that case, just so you would stop working with china.

[paxmao]

The territorial composition of Russia includes not only republics. More details on this page.
http://kcbux.ru/Statyy/ZA_zizny/za-016_karta-RF.html
I have said many times that it is not worth reading news about draft laws in Russia, because they change very often.
In Russia, large shadow markets, exchangers operate in all major cities.

OK.. since you are residing in Russia, you maybe having access to better information. For me it is confusing, because I have heard about contradicting news regarding the status of Bitcoin in Russia.

In other words, the USA is shooting itself in the foot. Who would have thought it. Just to think that Gaddafi was killed for wanting to sell oil in Euros. And Saddam Hussein the same. There you have the weapons of mass destruction.

The United States is misusing the position of USD as the global trade and reserve currency. This position enables them to take loans worth trillions, at extremely low interest rates. In short, US is getting rich at the expense of other countries (who use USD for international trade). But there is no alternative available as of now. Other fiat currencies (including EUR and CNY) are even more prone to inflation when compared to the USD. I would prefer a decentralized currency such as Bitcoin, but only two countries have made it legal tender till now.

Believe me, if he lives in the RF, he does not have better information about anything, particularly about anything happening in the RF.

[Sithara007]

I would guess that getting cheap interests on trillions of dollars worth of debt is not "misusing" at all, they are using it exactly how it should be used for them. It is the other nations that allow them to do that, so it is wrong for those nations, and if they do not accept it then they would not be getting such a bead deal.

You want to really screw with USA? Go work with China. Sure China is not a good nation at all, weirdly enough one of the only few nations that could be considered worse than USA, which is rare because there are so few of that. But then USA would realize their mistake and would recover their relation with you for sure in that case, just so you would stop working with china.

I agree with your statement. The United States is able to sell tens of trillions of USD worth of debt to foreign nations, at extremely low interest rates. I don't really understand this addiction towards United States treasury bonds, even from nations that are hostile towards the Americans, such as China and Russia. And Russia found out the hard way, after their assets got frozen by the NATO. They should have converted their USD denominated assets to gold or some other physical asset long back. And it was not that hard. Russia produces around 300 tonnes of gold every year.

[ChiBitCTy]

This is the kind of absolute nonsense a country has to deal with when they don’t ban together and force a regime change where there would be free and fair elections.  This all really comes as no surprise and of course taking all this in this clearly shows how important bitcoin is and being borderless where your country is not able to dictate like this is extremely important.

[stompix]

I agree with your statement. The United States is able to sell tens of trillions of USD worth of debt to foreign nations, at extremely low interest rates. I don't really understand this addiction towards United States treasury bonds, even from nations that are hostile towards the Americans, such as China and Russia.

Because every day rather than looking a the window, hearing the birds, trying to cheer yourself up and think positively you're eating propaganda with a shovel for breakfast and you let yourself be overcome with hate against something you actually don't have a clue about.
That's why you come with BS like Ukraine will lose half of its territory by May, that's why you come with stupid as fuck things like Europe freezing and Europeans driving horses when last year alone Germans bought more cars than the whole of India.  Cars (excluding bikes that some uses to inflate their numbers, propaganda!).

In reality, everyone trusts the dollar because you know you can exchange it anywhere, you know the bonds will be paid, you know its value and you know that there is no way for the US to suddenly decided to peg it to some exchange rate that is completely useless, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Russia style.
If anyone here would even remotely consider another currency to be better we would talk about BTC being worth x rubles, z yuans, y bolivars, but in reality, not even 1% would know those numbers while 101% know the price by heart in $. That's reality!

And Russia found out the hard way, after their assets got frozen by the NATO.

You obviously have no clue what Nato is, and just as a heads up, despite starting with NA is not the nationalist socialist worker's party.

They should have converted their USD denominated assets to gold or some other physical asset long back. And it was not that hard. Russia produces around 300 tonnes of gold every year.

And here comes the economic genius explaining to others how the economy works.
No, it doesn't work like that, when nobody trusts you in anything, just like here we're were all almost anonymous in order to do business you need escrow and collateral, if you want to access funds poeple need to know you're solvable, and keeping your gold and assets in some radioactive lake in Siberia is no escrow. That's why in order to get western financing Russia was so desperate on having they agreed to have all those assets in European and American banks.

But that's not a thing they teach you at the 8 AM let's hate the west propaganda morning tutorial for brainwashed zombies.

[zasad@]

The territorial composition of Russia includes not only republics. More details on this page.
http://kcbux.ru/Statyy/ZA_zizny/za-016_karta-RF.html
I have said many times that it is not worth reading news about draft laws in Russia, because they change very often.
In Russia, large shadow markets, exchangers operate in all major cities.

OK.. since you are residing in Russia, you maybe having access to better information. For me it is confusing, because I have heard about contradicting news regarding the status of Bitcoin in Russia.

In other words, the USA is shooting itself in the foot. Who would have thought it. Just to think that Gaddafi was killed for wanting to sell oil in Euros. And Saddam Hussein the same. There you have the weapons of mass destruction.

The United States is misusing the position of USD as the global trade and reserve currency. This position enables them to take loans worth trillions, at extremely low interest rates. In short, US is getting rich at the expense of other countries (who use USD for international trade). But there is no alternative available as of now. Other fiat currencies (including EUR and CNY) are even more prone to inflation when compared to the USD. I would prefer a decentralized currency such as Bitcoin, but only two countries have made it legal tender till now.

Believe me, if he lives in the RF, he does not have better information about anything, particularly about anything happening in the RF.

Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia. Each territorial subject of the country has a completely different economic situation.But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

[VKcams.com]

Since July 1, 2022 individuals - Russian residents have the right in a calendar month to transfer from their account in a Russian bank to his account abroad or to another person no more than $ 1 million or the same amount in the equivalent in another foreign currency.

https://www.cbr.ru/press/event/?id=13976

[paxmao]

The territorial composition of Russia includes not only republics. More details on this page.
http://kcbux.ru/Statyy/ZA_zizny/za-016_karta-RF.html
I have said many times that it is not worth reading news about draft laws in Russia, because they change very often.
In Russia, large shadow markets, exchangers operate in all major cities.

OK.. since you are residing in Russia, you maybe having access to better information. For me it is confusing, because I have heard about contradicting news regarding the status of Bitcoin in Russia.

In other words, the USA is shooting itself in the foot. Who would have thought it. Just to think that Gaddafi was killed for wanting to sell oil in Euros. And Saddam Hussein the same. There you have the weapons of mass destruction.

The United States is misusing the position of USD as the global trade and reserve currency. This position enables them to take loans worth trillions, at extremely low interest rates. In short, US is getting rich at the expense of other countries (who use USD for international trade). But there is no alternative available as of now. Other fiat currencies (including EUR and CNY) are even more prone to inflation when compared to the USD. I would prefer a decentralized currency such as Bitcoin, but only two countries have made it legal tender till now.

Believe me, if he lives in the RF, he does not have better information about anything, particularly about anything happening in the RF.

Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia. Each territorial subject of the country has a completely different economic situation.But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Jokes apart, I understand that the economy of the large cities (Moscow, St Petersburg,...)  is quite different from the rest of RF, not to mention the remote regions which are pretty much meaningless in politics - in fact the stats show how Adolf Putin manages that quite well in the army: most of the draft and most of the dead are from the regions.

[stompix]

Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Or China, or Kazahstan if Putin starts pissing all the southern countries and Moscow will return to its glory from the times of the Golden Horde.
What he actually tried to say but his pride stopped him from saying is
- you want to see the Potemkin Russia, go to Moscow
- you want to see the reality of the poorest country in Europe, go to the southern regions of Volga and Urals, you will see poverty like in a 4th world country
Before the invasion of Crimea, when RT was actually telling the truth:
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/

But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

But comrade, how is that even possible.
I thought sanctions would make you strong, invincible, and the greatest power in Duck Tales multiverse.
Just a few months ago you were bragging to me how the Russian chips are on par with western technology and look at your country, you're building the best cars in the world, with no shitty air conditioning, no useless traction control, no death traps like airbags, where are those problems?

I kept wondering why those sanctions are useless every time a Russian office gets a microphone they scream at the west to lift them or else

[sovie]

Heard in my local new that Russian asked the buyers to pay in Ruble. But I am sure USA will not let this happen as the world follows the petrodollar rule.
If the world starts paying in Ruble than surly the Ruble will get strength which is not what EU and USA would want. But whatever the situation is Russian economy will not collapse that is for sure.

Here in India, some of the private companies are already importing Russian crude oil and coal by making the payment in Chinese Yuan and UAE Dirhams. They can't pay the Russians in Euros or USD due to the sanctions. As a result Chinese Yuan is now increasingly being used for international trade involving Russian commodities. Hardly anyone prefer the Ruble right now, because of its volatility. Some of the companies explored the possibility of making the payments using the Indian Rupee, but the Russians were not interested.

Every country has right to progress - but the lords have kept that currency control in their hands. If this trade of YUan and Dirham continues than surly USD will lose the power which they would not want. I assume taking revenge with Russia is not a good option. EU should reconsider the sanctions to make peace with Russia and other world

[Sithara007]

Every country has right to progress - but the lords have kept that currency control in their hands. If this trade of YUan and Dirham continues than surly USD will lose the power which they would not want.

Even now the United States Dollar is used for more than 95% of the international trade. China tried really hard to make CNY as one of the trade currencies, but other countries refused to trust their manipulated national currency. AED is used only within the middle east and it doesn't have much acceptability beyond that region. Euro is also not preferred now, because of inflation. JPY and GBP used to be prominent a few years back. But these currencies have also weakened a lot against the US Dollar.

[zasad@]

Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Or China, or Kazahstan if Putin starts pissing all the southern countries and Moscow will return to its glory from the times of the Golden Horde.
What he actually tried to say but his pride stopped him from saying is
- you want to see the Potemkin Russia, go to Moscow
- you want to see the reality of the poorest country in Europe, go to the southern regions of Volga and Urals, you will see poverty like in a 4th world country
Before the invasion of Crimea, when RT was actually telling the truth:
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/

But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

But comrade, how is that even possible.
I thought sanctions would make you strong, invincible, and the greatest power in Duck Tales multiverse.
Just a few months ago you were bragging to me how the Russian chips are on par with western technology and look at your country, you're building the best cars in the world, with no shitty air conditioning, no useless traction control, no death traps like airbags, where are those problems?

I kept wondering why those sanctions are useless every time a Russian office gets a microphone they scream at the west to lift them or else

I won't talk about situation with Ukraine.

But you do not have such cars
https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/629e6cff25adf4180862e698?t=3  

I told you that time that I have a good imported car.
I have a friend who is in the business of selling cars. Chinese businessmen have bought a Renault factory and are bilding another big car factory.
The problem will be solved in a couple of years.

If you have money, then you can buy any car from the US or Europe. There are no sanctions in practice.

Europe prospered because it bought cheap resources from Russia and sold expensive equipment to Russia. With these sanctions, the Europeans shot themselves in the head. They are losing markets and the price of resources is going up.
These sanctions will kill Europe faster.

[stompix]

I won't talk about situation with Ukraine.

Why? Because your signature sponsor has banned you from talking about this?
Much freedom, such independence, money matters, wow revelation.
How do you feel having a ballgag put on your mouth for a few $? So much for the pride of the average Russian.

Chinese businessmen have bought a Renault factory and are bilding another big car factory.

Spare me the bullshit, no Chinese company has bought any Renault factory and they aren't stupid enough to build one either.
Autovaz was nationalized and now its producing a death trap even Fred Flinstone would be afraid to enter in it.

The problem will be solved in a couple of years.

Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.

These sanctions will kill Europe faster.

Again, Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.
Meanwhile, the reality is this:

Sales of cars and light commercial vehicles in Russia in the month of June were down by 82% year-on-year to just 27,761 units according to the Moscow-based AEB. June’s sharp decline follows a May drop of 83.5% and an April drop of 78.5%.

Way to go comrade!!!!

[zasad@]

I won't talk about situation with Ukraine.

Why? Because your signature sponsor has banned you from talking about this?
Much freedom, such independence, money matters, wow revelation.
How do you feel having a ballgag put on your mouth for a few $? So much for the pride of the average Russian.

I have not participated in political discussions before, because it is a waste of time. You believe any trash article and think that your sanctions are working, but in fact they are working against you.

The RUE findings showed that nearly a fifth of homes in cities have no hot water, and 12 percent no central heating – a necessity through Russia’s harsh winters.
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/

Do you believe in this nonsense because you like it so much

Chinese businessmen have bought a Renault factory and are bilding another big car factory.

Spare me the bullshit, no Chinese company has bought any Renault factory and they aren't stupid enough to build one either.
Autovaz was nationalized and now its producing a death trap even Fred Flinstone would be afraid to enter in it.

The problem will be solved in a couple of years.

Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.

These sanctions will kill Europe faster.

Again, Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.
Meanwhile, the reality is this:

Sales of cars and light commercial vehicles in Russia in the month of June were down by 82% year-on-year to just 27,761 units according to the Moscow-based AEB. June’s sharp decline follows a May drop of 83.5% and an April drop of 78.5%.

Way to go comrade!!!!

You may not believe me, but new residential complexes are being built in Russia for thousands of Chinese specialists. The Chinese company JAC will produce cars at the factories of Moskvich.

___
Why do you dislike Russia so much?

[tvbcof]

I've got a kid and there are always Jewtube kids(?) vids going on at least one of the many devices.  I gotta say, there is no comparison between 'Masha and Bear', and the faggy retarded nonsense that appeals to Westerners.  The former has reasonably complex story-lines, a lot of somewhat sophisticated humor, relatively nice scenery, etc.  The latter is atrocious.  Between this observation, the conduct of the Russian military in this latest police action, and the various 'vaccine' rates, I'm definitely betting on the Russians to play a leading role after 'the turning'.

We (thinkers) all sort of know it takes 20 years to 'destabilize' a society, and we all sort of understand that the basic reason is that it takes that long to raise a generation.  I've always thought of Russian society and Russian people as being sort of beat-down dregs, violent alcoholic wrecks, mindless brainwashed sheep, etc.  Adam Curtis' 'HyperNormalisation' captures that pretty well.  What just occurred to me is that my impressions come from the Soviet and Yeltsin time-frame, and it's getting up into the magical '20 years' since that time.  Maybe while I wasn't looking the society and the people themselves have changed quite a bit and it's about time for me to at least check to see if I need to re-calibrate somewhat.

[DrBeer]

The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

[zasad@]

The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

This is a clear example of custom articles and the opinion that is formed after reading.
Have you opened the world map?
A toilet in Russia costs from 30 to 150 dollars, my toilet costs about 100 dollars. To send this product to another region, the transport services may increase the cost of the goods.
https://www.pulscen.ru/price/440608-unitaz?page=2
And Europeans or American people believe in these nonsense.

In Russia, the state language is Russian, but in many regions there are national languages that are taught in schools, people communicate. In Chechnya, this is the Chechen language, in Chuvashia the Chuvash language, in Tatarstan - the Tatar language, I won’t bore you with enumerations. There are English, German, French schools, it is not forbidden.
And in other countries people are forbidden to speak Russian.

[Sithara007]

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

It is strange that you refuse to answer one of my questions despite me repeating it many times. All the time you are blaming Russia. But what about the Ukrainian citizens, who are fighting on the other side? At this point, more than half of the casualties on the "Russian" side comprise of Ukrainian (or former Ukrainian citizens). You have never mentioned about them. According to conservative estimates, Russians have lost some 8,000 men. This may be an undercount, but from the available data more than 50% of these deaths come from the national militias of Donestk and Lugansk Republics. Russian citizens comprise less than half of the deaths on the "Russian" side. What if I claim that the war is between two factions within Ukraine, with external parties supporting either of the sides (Russia and Belarus supporting the rebels, and NATO supporting Kiev)?

[DrBeer]

The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

This is a clear example of custom articles and the opinion that is formed after reading.
Have you opened the world map?
A toilet in Russia costs from 30 to 150 dollars, my toilet costs about 100 dollars. To send this product to another region, the transport services may increase the cost of the goods.
https://www.pulscen.ru/price/440608-unitaz?page=2
And Europeans or American people believe in these nonsense.

In Russia, the state language is Russian, but in many regions there are national languages that are taught in schools, people communicate. In Chechnya, this is the Chechen language, in Chuvashia the Chuvash language, in Tatarstan - the Tatar language, I won’t bore you with enumerations. There are English, German, French schools, it is not forbidden.
And in other countries people are forbidden to speak Russian.

I love to communicate with russians
Let's start with the last one - is it forbidden to communicate in Russian somewhere? Are you just intentionally misrepresenting the essence?
Tell me - in Moscow, can I demand that the cashier serve me in Ukrainian? And Kazakh in Kazakh? And nokhchi in Chechen? I will answer - NO! Or maybe there is a Ukrainian school or library in Moscow? Also no ! Moreover, they were closed immediately after the start of aggression against Ukraine. This is a fact and can be verified. But in Ukraine there are libraries with Russian books, and schools where all education is conducted in Russian. There is no ban on the Russian language in Ukraine, there is a state language, but this is not a synonym for "banning the Russian language in Ukraine." No need to lie primitively

Regarding systemic theft and looting. I am not going to give you links to photos/videos/recordings of calls from Russian looters. It is extremely easy to find - in addition to the fact that they themselves, due to innate stupidity, film it all and post it on social networks, there is also a video from the Belarusian and Russian branches of postal companies, where martinets of the Russian Federation massively send household appliances, things, toys to their homes. Looting is one of the pillars of the Russian world. Remember when Russian terrorists shot down MH17? The very next day, local scum were selling the things of the dead - clothes, toys, perfumes ... Stolen from the dead people. This is the Russian world. So shut up about fakes, you won’t look so idiotic!

[zasad@]

You will be served in Moscow in Ukrainian, Georgian and Chechen if you go to national cafes, for example. In Russia, Ukrainian books and Ukrainian schools are also not banned.
I thought that crimes have no nationality, but because of your hatred, you will blame the Russians for all the problems.

[DrBeer]

It is strange that you refuse to answer one of my questions despite me repeating it many times. All the time you are blaming Russia. But what about the Ukrainian citizens, who are fighting on the other side? At this point, more than half of the casualties on the "Russian" side comprise of Ukrainian (or former Ukrainian citizens). You have never mentioned about them. According to conservative estimates, Russians have lost some 8,000 men. This may be an undercount, but from the available data more than 50% of these deaths come from the national militias of Donestk and Lugansk Republics. Russian citizens comprise less than half of the deaths on the "Russian" side. What if I claim that the war is between two factions within Ukraine, with external parties supporting either of the sides (Russia and Belarus supporting the rebels, and NATO supporting Kiev)?

Answered more than once. Ok, I will answer again - in detail, with examples, and extremely accurately!

Let me bring you back to reality first. Today, the losses of the Russian army are about 37,000 soldiers. About the wounded, crippled - I won’t tell you, there are standard statistics, how many incapacitated people per 1 killed, read it, count it!
About local separatists - no one considers them Russia does not need these garbage. Why ? As they say in the FSB - the one who betrayed once will betray the second, so the separatists of the DPR / LPR are expendable.
Yes - and there are no Luhansk and Donetsk republics - there are sewers temporarily occupied by the Rashists, but this is temporary! I am very glad that the whole adequate world - the USA, Britain, Poland, and many dozens of other countries - is helping us in the fight against the world terrorist!

Concerning "some citizens of Ukraine".
Let's go back a little to the past. Around the middle of the 19th century. At a time when Britain, in a sense, carried out a peacekeeping mission, and helped some part of the inhabitants of India, to defend their rights to self-determination, from a government that did not want to hear their voice and demands!

Then many Indians fought on the side of Britain! Do you want to talk about these? Yes, we have those too!
There were still such people in the days of Nazi Germany - both the French, and the Belgians, and the Hungarians and Romanians and Russians in huge numbers. Everywhere there are such "lovers of the other side." They are called separatists, or softly - collaborators. But in fact, these are traitors and helpers of terrorists and killer invaders. And everywhere such individuals are scorned, exiled, and often they are simply destroyed as enemies. Or do you treat them differently?

By the way - why, after Britain finished saving India from unrest, and gave freedom to the saved territory, the part that became India did not return all the "historical lands" to Pakistan? Or is it another story?

I hope I fully and accurately answered the question that interested you so much? Everything became clear, no questions left?

[Sithara007]

^^^ Still not going to agree with the casualty figures provided (37,000 for Russia?). The US estimate for Russian losses is around 16,000 killed (and this includes PMC Wagner and the Ukrainian rebels). Other sources such as IStories, BBC News Russian and Meduza have given figures of around 4,000-5,000 dead Russian citizens. I think that the figure provided by US agencies is closer to the truth and half of that number may be from the Russian armed forces. So total of 16,000 deaths from their side, with half of it among the Ukrainian rebels and Wagner.

[zasad@]

Concerning "some citizens of Ukraine".
Let's go back a little to the past. Around the middle of the 19th century. At a time when Britain, in a sense, carried out a peacekeeping mission, and helped some part of the inhabitants of India, to defend their rights to self-determination, from a government that did not want to hear their voice and demands!

You have a history problem. Britain, France, Portugal and other countries plundered Africa, India and other islands and achieved all preferences by force. After the resettlement of Europeans in America, millions of indigenous people were destroyed there. If someone helps you, it does not mean that he wishes you well.

[dezoel]

This isn't a joke, they are really trying to make their economy as great as it gets. This means that if they hurt a few people along the way, even Russians, they are fine with it. Realize that Russian ruble is literally more valuable right now than before the war, that should tell you all you need to know. Of course, this is not a free market and even with a better and bigger economy, they are losing their freedom, so people do question if that is better or not.

Some communism lovers would prefer to have less freedom but better economy, whereas some liberals would say better to have freedom and poverty. This is why its never an answer we can ever agree 100% all together.

[zasad@]

This isn't a joke, they are really trying to make their economy as great as it gets. This means that if they hurt a few people along the way, even Russians, they are fine with it. Realize that Russian ruble is literally more valuable right now than before the war, that should tell you all you need to know. Of course, this is not a free market and even with a better and bigger economy, they are losing their freedom, so people do question if that is better or not.

Some communism lovers would prefer to have less freedom but better economy, whereas some liberals would say better to have freedom and poverty. This is why its never an answer we can ever agree 100% all together.

What is communism? It was not even built in the USSR.
Already 30 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, the younger generation does not know what it is.
In Russia, most of the population does not live richly, but there are a lot of freedoms. And do not read the press, there are many isolated cases.

[Sithara007]

What is communism? It was not even built in the USSR.
Already 30 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, the younger generation does not know what it is.
In Russia, most of the population does not live richly, but there are a lot of freedoms. And do not read the press, there are many isolated cases.

If Russia is a communist country, then so should be Germany and Poland. East Germany and Poland were under communist regimes until 1990. True communism now exists only in pariah states such as DPRK and Cuba. Even these countries are now attempting to move away. China and Vietnam are communist in name only. Apart from their authoritarian regime structure, the economic system is 100% capitalist. They have realized that the Socialist/Communist economic system is not simply sustainable.

Margaret Thatcher:

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

[DrBeer]

Concerning "some citizens of Ukraine".
Let's go back a little to the past. Around the middle of the 19th century. At a time when Britain, in a sense, carried out a peacekeeping mission, and helped some part of the inhabitants of India, to defend their rights to self-determination, from a government that did not want to hear their voice and demands!

You have a history problem. Britain, France, Portugal and other countries plundered Africa, India and other islands and achieved all preferences by force. After the resettlement of Europeans in America, millions of indigenous people were destroyed there. If someone helps you, it does not mean that he wishes you well.

Well, what are you talking about!? They only helped them! They wanted to save the fraternal peoples of India, China, Africa from their raging juntas! They were forbidden to speak English, French and Portuguese! Yes, that's right - they were peacekeeping missions! And all that was destroyed or killed there was the Chinese, Indians and Africans themselves!
And in general, these territories historically belonged to the USA, France, Portugal!

You will be served in Moscow in Ukrainian, Georgian and Chechen if you go to national cafes, for example. In Russia, Ukrainian books and Ukrainian schools are also not banned.
I thought that crimes have no nationality, but because of your hatred, you will blame the Russians for all the problems.

The problem is that you offer to speak other languages ​​in authentic restaurants, and Ukraine was forced to accept some second national language, and its support and promotion wherever possible.
You can come to a Russian restaurant - and there speak Russian as much as you like - no infringement on the rights of Russian speakers! Any restaurant of Russian cuisine is exclusively for them


Stop stop stop!!! Isn't it Russia, UNDER HISTORY, supposedly saving the so-called "Russian-speakers" (as it turned out in reality - they meant outcasts who speak obscenities and do not know the literary Russian language ), and saved them from the fact that the Russian language was allegedly banned in Ukraine ? They say Russian is banned in Ukraine, they kill, persecute, etc. for speaking Russian. All propagandists fought with these slogans in hysterics! But in Ukraine there is NO ban on the Russian language!
In this case, you are absolutely right - the criminals are not Russians by nationality, but a concept that struck the brain of the inhabitants and citizens of Russia, called the "Russian world" ...


PS. call me:
- addresses of schools in Moscow where teaching is conducted entirely in Ukrainian.
- tell us where is the working Ukrainian library located in Moscow?
- tell me - what Ukrainian channels, programs, films, shows are on TV, of course in Ukrainian?
 
Now let's check who really hates whom

[Sithara007]

The problem is that you offer to speak other languages ​​in authentic restaurants, and Ukraine was forced to accept some second national language, and its support and promotion wherever possible.
You can come to a Russian restaurant - and there speak Russian as much as you like - no infringement on the rights of Russian speakers! Any restaurant of Russian cuisine is exclusively for them

That is not a proper comparison. Before the regime change of 2004, it was estimated that around 95% of the Ukrainians are fluent in Russian. At the same time, less than 40% claimed to have such an ability in Ukrainian. Without any argument, Russian is the most popular language in Ukraine and this was the reason why Russophones demanded to make it the national language. What the Yushchenko regime did was to impose an alien language over people who had Russian as the mother tongue in East and South Ukraine.

In Russia, Russian is the most popular language and in most of the Republics they have regional languages with official status.

[DrBeer]

The problem is that you offer to speak other languages ​​in authentic restaurants, and Ukraine was forced to accept some second national language, and its support and promotion wherever possible.
You can come to a Russian restaurant - and there speak Russian as much as you like - no infringement on the rights of Russian speakers! Any restaurant of Russian cuisine is exclusively for them

That is not a proper comparison. Before the regime change of 2004, it was estimated that around 95% of the Ukrainians are fluent in Russian. At the same time, less than 40% claimed to have such an ability in Ukrainian. Without any argument, Russian is the most popular language in Ukraine and this was the reason why Russophones demanded to make it the national language. What the Yushchenko regime did was to impose an alien language over people who had Russian as the mother tongue in East and South Ukraine.

In Russia, Russian is the most popular language and in most of the Republics they have regional languages with official status.

The main thing is that Russian statistics always lie. 95% understand the interlocutor who speaks Russian. And there are no regions with a pure Russian-speaking population at all. There are regions where Russian prevails. And it's not 95% at all!

Regarding statistics on the language - so we have 30+% of the population speaks English - should we make it the state language?
Ukraine, an independent republic, with its own history, culture and ... yes, language. And the state language must be Ukrainian. Ukraine is a multinational country, but we do not have a ban on languages, we have the status of a state! We have schools where children study in Ukrainian (most of the schools), in Russian, in Hungarian, yes, imagine - no one forbids languages! Moreover, the Ukrainian media are also multilingual. So don't tell me from your apartment from another country how things are in my apartment, in my country!
By the way, I am Russian by origin, though I was lucky that my parents moved to Ukraine a long time ago. I am fluent in Russian, Ukrainian, acceptable in Polish, and even a little in the Transcarpathian dialect (a very interesting dialect, I worked in Transcarpathia for half a year, and learned it). But I believe that the state language should be a single language that unites the nation. And so it is in most countries! The fact that Ukraine has been under the occupation of the Moscow Ulus / USSR / Russia for several centuries does not give the Russian language the right to be the state language here.
And after the terrorist war unleashed by Russia, and the statements of their miserable Fuhrer that "Russia is where the Russian language is", I am increasingly becoming a supporter of a real ban on the Russian language in Ukraine.

PS So you told me so beautifully about the "problem of the Russian language in Ukraine", but tell me - what is the state language in Russia? And tell me - why is the state only Russian, and for example not Tatar or Ukrainian (the 2 largest ethnic groups in Russia after the Russians)?
But in the Krasnodar Territory (by the way, the former territory of Ukraine - the Kuban, also stolen through the efforts of the USSR), most of the population of the villages speak "balachka" - this is 95% Ukrainian. Why doesn't this question bother you? Moreover, in the far east of Russia there was such a republic "Green Wedge", ethnic Ukrainians lived there, who were deported from the eastern regions of Ukraine (where they later overcame the marginalized from Rostov and other outbacks of Russia). Official information on the Green Wedge, even in Russian sources, is this - "Green Wedge or Zakitayshchyna is the historical resettlement name of the southern territory of the Far East of the Russian Empire and the Russian Federation, sometimes still used in documents of Russian associations of Ukrainians as "Ukrainians of the Green Wedge." There are Ukrainian schools, the official status of Ukrainian? Let's solve problems where they really are.
By the way - in Moscow and St. Petersburg, more than 20% of the population more or less freely communicate in English - should the United States or Britain return them under their control?

[be.open]

By the way, I am Russian by origin, though I was lucky that my parents moved to Ukraine a long time ago. I am fluent in Russian, Ukrainian, acceptable in Polish, and even a little in the Transcarpathian dialect (a very interesting dialect, I worked in Transcarpathia for half a year, and learned it). But I believe that the state language should be a single language that unites the nation. And so it is in most countries!

You're just a narrow-minded fascist. If you had a little brains, you would understand that the bilingualism of Ukraine is not a punishment, but a gift that must be appreciated and protected, and not tried to be eradicated. By the way, in Russia there is one national language (Russian) and 37 languages have the status of a state language.

[DrBeer]

By the way, I am Russian by origin, though I was lucky that my parents moved to Ukraine a long time ago. I am fluent in Russian, Ukrainian, acceptable in Polish, and even a little in the Transcarpathian dialect (a very interesting dialect, I worked in Transcarpathia for half a year, and learned it). But I believe that the state language should be a single language that unites the nation. And so it is in most countries!

You're just a narrow-minded fascist. If you had a little brains, you would understand that the bilingualism of Ukraine is not a punishment, but a gift that must be appreciated and protected, and not tried to be eradicated. By the way, in Russia there is one national language (Russian) and 37 languages have the status of a state language.

Yes, I see that you are a classic, real Russian Stupid, embittered, primitive. Who has primitive insults instead of arguments, and all reality is fakes and stupid lies, in which you yourself don’t really believe, but you are afraid to admit reality

About your fakes about 37 state languages ​​- you couldn't show me 1 Ukrainian school and 1 Ukrainian library, you tell such fairy tales

If you are not in the know, then the Russian Federation is a FEDERATION, which means that it is bewildering, it consists of many INDEPENDENT state entities. With its history, land, culture and languages.

Ukraine is a UNITARY REPUBLIC, divided into regions. I hope you understand the difference. I recommend to count the Constitution, and make sure that the regional languages ​​in Ukraine have the right to exist.


Threat, let's check it out - give arguments that I'm a fascist? Tell me what is fascism? And what is the connection, logical, and not fake, familiar to Russians? And everyone will be able to watch this show

[Argoo]

By the way, I am Russian by origin, though I was lucky that my parents moved to Ukraine a long time ago. I am fluent in Russian, Ukrainian, acceptable in Polish, and even a little in the Transcarpathian dialect (a very interesting dialect, I worked in Transcarpathia for half a year, and learned it). But I believe that the state language should be a single language that unites the nation. And so it is in most countries!

You're just a narrow-minded fascist. If you had a little brains, you would understand that the bilingualism of Ukraine is not a punishment, but a gift that must be appreciated and protected, and not tried to be eradicated. By the way, in Russia there is one national language (Russian) and 37 languages have the status of a state language.

Before the large-scale military invasion of Ukraine by the Russian army, in Ukraine itself, people in everyday life spoke Russian or Ukrainian, as they wanted, and there was no problem in this. After, when we saw what atrocities the Russians were doing in the occupied territories of Ukraine, I see that many began to switch only to the Ukrainian language. The same is done at the national level by the government.
From the very beginning, Russia invaded Ukraine under the pretext of protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine. True, now in the Donbass the occupiers kill most of all the Russian-speaking civilian population, and the Russians have already forgotten that they came to Ukraine to "liberate" them. In order to exclude such pretexts for attacks in the future, it will be absolutely correct if everything Russian is banned in Ukraine, with the exception of communication in everyday life. This will be a logical response to the perennial planting of the "Russian world" in Ukraine and to the mass crimes that the Russians are now committing in Ukraine.

[DrBeer]

You're just a narrow-minded fascist. If you had a little brains, you would understand that the bilingualism of Ukraine is not a punishment, but a gift that must be appreciated and protected, and not tried to be eradicated. By the way, in Russia there is one national language (Russian) and 37 languages have the status of a state language.

Before the large-scale military invasion of Ukraine by the Russian army, in Ukraine itself, people in everyday life spoke Russian or Ukrainian, as they wanted, and there was no problem in this. After, when we saw what atrocities the Russians were doing in the occupied territories of Ukraine, I see that many began to switch only to the Ukrainian language. The same is done at the national level by the government.
From the very beginning, Russia invaded Ukraine under the pretext of protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine. True, now in the Donbass the occupiers kill most of all the Russian-speaking civilian population, and the Russians have already forgotten that they came to Ukraine to "liberate" them. In order to exclude such pretexts for attacks in the future, it will be absolutely correct if everything Russian is banned in Ukraine, with the exception of communication in everyday life. This will be a logical response to the perennial planting of the "Russian world" in Ukraine and to the mass crimes that the Russians are now committing in Ukraine.

As a resident of Ukraine, I will tell you more: there are regions in Ukraine with different historical and cultural heritage.
There are regions where the heirs of Hungarian tribes/settlements live, as well as Polish, Belarusian, Slovak, Romanian, Russian, Tatar, Jewish, and many others. And people freely, preserving traditions, use their native language in everyday life. No one has ever had problems and could not be, because. Ukraine, although it has the main ethnic group - Ukrainians, has always been loyal and friendly to many others! There has never been an infringement of the rights of people on the basis of language. Although I'm lying - in the days of the Moscow ulus / USSR - in fact, all republican languages ​​faded into the background, and priority was given only to the Russian language (from training to industrial documentation).
And after gaining independence, Ukraine retained its peaceful and reasonable attitude towards the culture of the peoples inhabiting it. I have said more than once - I am an ethnic Russian, born in the USSR, in the Siberia region. But almost since childhood I have been living in Ukraine. Yes, I was lucky to leave Russia
And here I calmly communicate in Russian, not only in Kyiv, but also in the west of Ukraine in Lvov, Uzhgorod, Mukachevo, Chernivtsi, Transcarpathian villages. Never had any problems!

It has always been a mystery to me - why only the heirs of those resettled from the depressive regions of the RSFSR, to the east and south of Ukraine, could not learn the classical Slavic Ukrainian language for 70 years - do they have some kind of hereditary defect in development?

This problem was invented by the Nazi propaganda of the Kremlin, which has always tried to destroy the peoples' language, culture, identity and ethnicity itself. There is a whole ocean of historical facts confirming this!

[Argoo]

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

It is strange that you refuse to answer one of my questions despite me repeating it many times. All the time you are blaming Russia. But what about the Ukrainian citizens, who are fighting on the other side? At this point, more than half of the casualties on the "Russian" side comprise of Ukrainian (or former Ukrainian citizens). You have never mentioned about them. According to conservative estimates, Russians have lost some 8,000 men. This may be an undercount, but from the available data more than 50% of these deaths come from the national militias of Donestk and Lugansk Republics. Russian citizens comprise less than half of the deaths on the "Russian" side. What if I claim that the war is between two factions within Ukraine, with external parties supporting either of the sides (Russia and Belarus supporting the rebels, and NATO supporting Kiev)?

Yes, 8,000 dead Russians, these figures are too low. Such Russian losses were only in the first week of their attack on Ukraine. According to the latest intra-staff report of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which is not made public, the losses alone by dead russiass military  amount to about 74,200 people. About 100,000 Ukrainians were also mobilized on the territory of the DPR and LPR, most of them were caught on the streets, in public transport, door-to-door, and without training and proper equipment were thrown to the front line ahead of the Russian military. Therefore, the losses there are also significant - about 23,000 people. For the most part, having no military experience, they could not even surrender, because both the Ukrainians, defending their front, and the Russians fired when they saw those who surrendered.
Now the Russians are also trying to do the same in part of the occupied territories of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. By bribery and threats, they try to force men to obtain a Russian passport and mobilize them into their army. The Nazis didn't think of that. Many interesting things will be made public in the international tribunal when Putin's criminal regime is tried.

[DrBeer]

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

It is strange that you refuse to answer one of my questions despite me repeating it many times. All the time you are blaming Russia. But what about the Ukrainian citizens, who are fighting on the other side? At this point, more than half of the casualties on the "Russian" side comprise of Ukrainian (or former Ukrainian citizens). You have never mentioned about them. According to conservative estimates, Russians have lost some 8,000 men. This may be an undercount, but from the available data more than 50% of these deaths come from the national militias of Donestk and Lugansk Republics. Russian citizens comprise less than half of the deaths on the "Russian" side. What if I claim that the war is between two factions within Ukraine, with external parties supporting either of the sides (Russia and Belarus supporting the rebels, and NATO supporting Kiev)?

Yes, 8,000 dead Russians, these figures are too low. Such Russian losses were only in the first week of their attack on Ukraine. According to the latest intra-staff report of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which is not made public, the losses alone by dead russiass military  amount to about 74,200 people. About 100,000 Ukrainians were also mobilized on the territory of the DPR and LPR, most of them were caught on the streets, in public transport, door-to-door, and without training and proper equipment were thrown to the front line ahead of the Russian military. Therefore, the losses there are also significant - about 23,000 people. For the most part, having no military experience, they could not even surrender, because both the Ukrainians, defending their front, and the Russians fired when they saw those who surrendered.
Now the Russians are also trying to do the same in part of the occupied territories of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. By bribery and threats, they try to force men to obtain a Russian passport and mobilize them into their army. The Nazis didn't think of that. Many interesting things will be made public in the international tribunal when Putin's criminal regime is tried.

A very subtle problem is the identification of the remains of Russian terrorists, after, for example, getting a Jewel or Nlow into an armored vehicle! You can’t imagine what remains there, for example, after the detonation of ammunition, or a direct hit on the side of an armored personnel carrier / BRDM / Armored car, etc.
You can’t even understand how many bodies there were before the hit! And after the advent of HIMARS, an exact count becomes unrealistic in general. I personally examined the remains of the Russian T-72B3, which was easily destroyed by 1 shot from Jevelin. Well, there were some biological traces there, but to say it was 1 person or the entire crew of 3 people. Similarly, an armored personnel carrier in which 3 people are crewed and up to 7 transported terrorists. After hitting the same Jewelin, it resembles a jar from which the carcass was taken out, but there are still pieces of meat on the walls
Well, the most important thing
- in Ukraine, in gray and disputed areas, a bunch of corpses of Russian terrorists are lying around. Our side does not remove them because of the risks (no one will risk our soldiers for the sake of the corpse of a terrorist), Russia does not take them away so as not to spoil the propaganda statistics, and not to pay payments - no corpse = no payments!
- in Ukraine there are several stations where a huge number of corpses of Russian terrorists are stored. They are stored in railway refrigerators, these are huge trains, and we keep them under normal conditions at low temperatures, but again, Russia refuses to take them.

[VKcams.com]

"In the second quarter, private investors became the main buyers of currency from exporters on the exchange, according to the Central Bank (Central Bank of Russia) review of the activities of professional participants. Moreover, citizens set a record by buying foreign money, mostly euros, for 439 billion rubles, Izvestia learned."

https://iz.ru/1391645/2022-09-07/rossiiane-vyveli-za-rubezh-1-trln-rublei-i-ustanovili-rekord-po-pokupke-valiuty-na-birzhe

[Sithara007]

"In the second quarter, private investors became the main buyers of currency from exporters on the exchange, according to the Central Bank (Central Bank of Russia) review of the activities of professional participants. Moreover, citizens set a record by buying foreign money, mostly euros, for 439 billion rubles, Izvestia learned."

https://iz.ru/1391645/2022-09-07/rossiiane-vyveli-za-rubezh-1-trln-rublei-i-ustanovili-rekord-po-pokupke-valiuty-na-birzhe

How easy is it for the private investors to purchase foreign currency, especially Euros and Dollars within Russia. I heard that banks have stopped selling foreign currency. So they should be getting this from informal sources, at inflated exchange rates. Right now one Euro is trading at around 60 Rubles. I guess the informal exchange rate will be much higher than that. A more easier option would be to invest in gold or platinum. But then it always attracts unwanted attention. At this point, none of the other investments are safe from inflation.

[VKcams.com]

How easy is it for the private investors to purchase foreign currency, especially Euros and Dollars within Russia.

https://www.banki.ru/products/currency/cash/moskva/

I don't know if it's available.
There are phone numbers at the link.

[DrBeer]

Some statistics about "great Russia", or rather about "successes" over the past week
- The spot price of Urals crude oil is steadily going down, today it is 69.3 dollars per barrel. Let me remind you that in the budget the price of oil is about $75 per barrel, while the dollar exchange rate is about 80 rubles per dollar. Then consider yourself. This is despite the fact that the ban on oil supplies has not even begun. One performance of the "old rubber ass" was enough
- Europeans are frightened by shots of winter ungasified Krasnoyarsk. propaganda with the last effort is again trying to scare everyone. True, Krasnoyarsk, a Russian city that is heated by coal, and poorly gasified, was filmed in the video The issue of gasification of Krasnoyarsk has been "hanging" for many decades
"The outlook looks terrible." The Ministry of Finance of Russia reported on the collapse of oil and gas budget revenues ... And the sanctions have not yet begun to operate
- Azerbaijan plans to double gas exports to Europe, bringing the capacity of the Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline (TANAP) to 32 billion cubic meters. Just some wild Russophobia!

[VKcams.com]

propaganda

Now look for the author of the clip.

[DrBeer]

propaganda

Now look for the author of the clip.

The video was filmed by order of Gazprom Russia. In the video for this, they used the song by Yuri Vizbor "And the winter will be big" performed by his granddaughter Varvara. I won’t say anything about copyright compliance, because. The author is long gone. But since this is Russia - most likely it was simply stolen, out of habit ...

[VKcams.com]

The video was filmed by order of Gazprom Russia.

There's nothing from Gazprom.
You can go to any video bank and make a video like this for $100.
Every commercial by Gazprom has a signature.

[DrBeer]

The video was filmed by order of Gazprom Russia.

There's nothing from Gazprom.
You can go to any video bank and make a video like this for $100.
Every commercial by Gazprom has a signature.

Very convincing! It's hard to disagree with you!
And of course - in Ukraine - a civil war. Europe is to blame itself, and Russia honestly fulfills its obligations, and this video was slipped by Gazprom by some evil hackers! But Gazprom, on the contrary, wants to warm up the embittered Europeans, and is trying with all its might to persuade them to take gas even for free! And Putin-he is the most peaceful and philanthropic!
Well, everything fits perfectly! I love "Russian truth" - everything is so logical! 

[VKcams.com]

by some evil hackers!

What hackers?
The Gazprom videos are on TV. This one was on entertainment sites.
Anyone can make such a clip in a video editor.

[FanEagle]

They are basically making sure that their finance doesn't crack under pressure and get destroyed. They make it look like it is quite good, but ask the poor Russians and they will tell you that this war hasn't been good for them at all.

The only upside is that the world is doing horrible financially all around the world now, it is not just Russia, maybe they will do bad longer than everyone else, but the world never had shortage of nations with economic problems, in any given year of human history there were nations with money problems and poverty, Russia could be the next one and that wouldn't be historically terrible, they had that before too. So, they will feel fine about it anyway.

[DrBeer]

by some evil hackers!

What hackers?
The Gazprom videos are on TV. This one was on entertainment sites.
Anyone can make such a clip in a video editor.

 
Also tell me that the bald rubber ass did not give orders to stop gas supplies to the EU, did not blackmail Germany and France, did not unleash a new war in Europe, and is not a miserable parody of Hitler?
Understand - world terrorism represented by Russia has no moral norms and prejudices, they will do abominations and meanness and say "it's not us, it can be done in any video editor." By the way, your answer is pure tracing paper from Putin's lies, when he started the war against Ukraine, from the occupation of Crimea, and when he said "this is not our army, you can buy our uniform at any store"