Strong Hands Are Buying

[Bobrox]

There is no need for a dilemma, we have strong hands to start and invest in bitcoin and buy it from now on, which is currently down, while we can be optimistic that after the bearish ends, bullish will definitely appear, so those strong hands need to be held tightly so that we can hold on to the long term as expected many have suggested.
If we already know about the prospects for bitcoin, we must immediately get profits as soon as possible. What needs to be done is to continue to acquire bitcoins in any way, including DCA and Dips, which we feel are right to make our strategy for investing in bitcoins gradual, and from this stage we can accumulate within a certain period of time such as more than a year which is our target.

Currently Bitcoin price have going down under $17,000 and right time for re investing, but many conflict interest in Bitcoin and several biggest countries not happy how Bitcoin become popular. I think United State is never allowed for Bitcoin become global legal currency transaction around the world, I know what bad impact when United State make FUD with Bitcoin.

I have optimistic with Bitcoin can reach higher price again, but FUD seems stronger day by day and many bad news make Bitcoin crash from trusted and reputation exchange market crash like FTX until several biggest network get exploit and altcoin top ten position standing in market get drop drastically.

[Woodie]

The golden rules of buy low and sell high have never changed and Strong hands are never short sighted like panic sellers as the major difference between the two is that these look at the big picture when these cryptocurrencies will recover overtime, besides the market is cyclical and its all about waiting to catch the right wave before you cash in on your holding before the crash happens again.

[GigaBit]

Well as a strong believer and investor in Bitcoin my strong hands are currently still buying it. I am also talking about Bitcoin as a solid investment opportunity to people I meet and know that are not already familiar and invested in it already.
I tend to talk about it quite a bit with other people. When you feel as strongly about crypto as I do, you want to discuss it and it just comes up naturally. For example, when I go out to a social gathering there’s a good chance I will bring it up with people and hear their opinions.
I tell them it is so easy to install tBinance and Coinbase on your phone they do it right in front of me.

Maybe you are a strong hand to buy and buy Bitcoin, but sometimes we forget to give directions to those who don't understand how to use it, many of the common people often lose or also transfer their Bitcoin to an address where it shouldn't be sent, and  many experienced players only give them a little knowledge, even just telling them to download an application that they don't know at all, at least we can teach them how to use it first so they can understand the ins and outs of bitcoin, not just telling them to download the Binance and Coinbase applications, according to  I think it's not too important for new users, but it's different if we ask those who already understand or understand the ins and outs of using bitcoin.

For those who are new, there are a few things to consider about before buying Bitcoin. Whether they buy bitcoins and keep them in a proper wallet, whether they have the right keys, overall security issues should be of utmost importance to a bitcoin buyer.

I realize  the best time to buy Bitcoin is when I can afford to buy it. Bitcoin is volatile so its nature makes many investors uneasy but real investors are not afraid of it. Rather, they try to retain it when it comes under their control. Currently Bitcoin price is $16700. Even many are confused that the market dump more? The market can behave differently at any time but in order to profit from Bitcoin, one must buy Bitcoin with his expected range. By using the DCA method, you will be able to control the volatility of your investments and avoid the roller coaster ride. I don't want to encourage anyone with Bitcoin. But right decision at right time is definitely needed. Finally i jsut utter that it is best to invest as much as you are willing to lose. Given the current Bitcoin price and position, I think investing in Bitcoin at this time is the most appropriate.

[Wimex]

Honestly, at the moment it is quite normal, simply, in colloquial terms, when making an investment for profit, people always search or buy at the time that is most convenient for them in terms of price, this situation is applicable to any investment. And yes... they are strong hands, but in the world of investments there are two types of people, winners and losers, each one chooses which side to be on, in my case I invested because it is a very good time to do it and with a positive mentality that bear fruit in the future, I hope not too distant.

[naira]

The golden rules of buy low and sell high have never changed and Strong hands are never short sighted like panic sellers as the major difference between the two is that these look at the big picture when these cryptocurrencies will recover overtime, besides the market is cyclical and its all about waiting to catch the right wave before you cash in on your holding before the crash happens again.

Therefore we must try to strengthen ourselves mentally so that when the price of bitcoin is like now we can stay calm even though a little panic is quite normal because of course we have our own emotions for that but when we have prepared ourselves of course we won't feel worried with current conditions.
Precisely in this case, we can think of something else by continuing to DCA at a discounted price like now.
Apart from buying at low prices and selling at high prices will do nothing when we just talk and keep waiting for the lowest possible price. but by taking action and continuing to make purchases from now on, this is actually a very possible and certainly profitable thing for the future.

[ajiz138]

There is no need for a dilemma, we have strong hands to start and invest in bitcoin and buy it from now on, which is currently down, while we can be optimistic that after the bearish ends, bullish will definitely appear, so those strong hands need to be held tightly so that we can hold on to the long term as expected many have suggested.
If we already know about the prospects for bitcoin, we must immediately get profits as soon as possible. What needs to be done is to continue to acquire bitcoins in any way, including DCA and Dips, which we feel are right to make our strategy for investing in bitcoins gradual, and from this stage we can accumulate within a certain period of time such as more than a year which is our target.

... but many conflict interest in Bitcoin and several biggest countries not happy how Bitcoin become popular. I think United State is never allowed for Bitcoin become global legal currency transaction around the world, I know what bad impact when United State make FUD with Bitcoin.

It has long been about conflict over bitcoin with some countries because they want to save fiat and banks whereas from the other side bitcoin will still be decentralized people will like this because of the freedom without having third parties.
The United States is still the dollar being the best currency in the whole world for trade between countries, while several countries have legalized Bitcoin as a legal tool for their country, now the new news that Brazil will legalize it will certainly be an attraction again, even though the United States makes FUD back if we are mentally strong we will not be affected by any FUD, trust bitcoin this will be the currency of the future.

I have optimistic with Bitcoin can reach higher price again, but FUD seems stronger day by day and many bad news make Bitcoin crash from trusted and reputation exchange market crash like FTX until several biggest network get exploit and altcoin top ten position standing in market get drop drastically.

Of course we will have a look at bitcoin ATH later.

Bearish more FUD than positive sentiment so no wonder FUD will get stronger day by day this will not last forever it will definitely end by itself trust me this is all the efforts of a group of whales trying to thwart bitcoin going up but they want to earn the price is cheap, don't trust the exchange too much, there are risks and one more thing, don't expect altcoins, even though there is great support behind it, it will fall on its own, including being exploited, which we often hear about.
Stay away from Altcoins.

[JayJuanGee]

Well as a strong believer and investor in Bitcoin my strong hands are currently still buying it. I am also talking about Bitcoin as a solid investment opportunity to people I meet and know that are not already familiar and invested in it already.
I tend to talk about it quite a bit with other people. When you feel as strongly about crypto as I do, you want to discuss it and it just comes up naturally. For example, when I go out to a social gathering there’s a good chance I will bring it up with people and hear their opinions.
I tell them it is so easy to install tBinance and Coinbase on your phone they do it right in front of me.

Maybe you are a strong hand to buy and buy Bitcoin, but sometimes we forget to give directions to those who don't understand how to use it, many of the common people often lose or also transfer their Bitcoin to an address where it shouldn't be sent, and  many experienced players only give them a little knowledge, even just telling them to download an application that they don't know at all, at least we can teach them how to use it first so they can understand the ins and outs of bitcoin, not just telling them to download the Binance and Coinbase applications, according to  I think it's not too important for new users, but it's different if we ask those who already understand or understand the ins and outs of using bitcoin.

For those who are new, there are a few things to consider about before buying Bitcoin. Whether they buy bitcoins and keep them in a proper wallet, whether they have the right keys, overall security issues should be of utmost importance to a bitcoin buyer.

I realize  the best time to buy Bitcoin is when I can afford to buy it. Bitcoin is volatile so its nature makes many investors uneasy but real investors are not afraid of it. Rather, they try to retain it when it comes under their control. Currently Bitcoin price is $16700. Even many are confused that the market dump more? The market can behave differently at any time but in order to profit from Bitcoin, one must buy Bitcoin with his expected range. By using the DCA method, you will be able to control the volatility of your investments and avoid the roller coaster ride. I don't want to encourage anyone with Bitcoin. But right decision at right time is definitely needed. Finally i jsut utter that it is best to invest as much as you are willing to lose. Given the current Bitcoin price and position, I think investing in Bitcoin at this time is the most appropriate.

I pretty much agree with everything that you say GigaBit. however, much of DCA is to buy at any price until you reach some BTC accumulation goals that you have set for yourself.. and including that maybe it could take you 4-10 years or longer to reach your BTC accumulation goals.. and then once you reach your BTC accumulation goals, it might take another 4-10 years before you are going to start to feel that maybe you are in a position to start to cash out parts of your bitcoin in order that you start to directly and materially benefit from having had spent so much time building your BTC stash....

I am not suggesting that anyone will necessarily have to wait 20 years to materially profit from bitcoin, or even that any of us would necessarily have to sell our bitcoin in order to substantially and materially profit building up a BTC stash.

Largely we are able to profit from building up wealth, even if we are not necessarily spending from our built up wealth.. because having the wealth gives more options including that we may well be way more liberated to spend our dollars more quickly and readily once we have already built wealth in bitcoin, so we would not necessarily have to wait for 20 years or even have to wait to actually directly spend our bitcoin in order to profit from our having had built our bitcoin stash... to whatever level that we are able to do at our own individual level of capability.. and like you seem to be suggesting GigaBit to be aggressive about the BTC accumulation without becoming overly aggressive.

Personally, I do not mind the idea of trying to improve upon DCA by buying on the dip or increasing buys at certain times, but it is not really easy to accomplish and sometimes it is better to just buy without trying to be too strategic about it... because it is quite likely that there is not going to be much ability to maximize dip buying points, and in the very long run, the extent that you might have stacked more sats or bought at lower prices is NOT likely going to make BIG differences  - or at least not as BIG of a difference as the fact that you are just doing the buying ongoingly and regularly.  I recall that for my couple of years in bitcoin (mostly in 2014 and 2015 a little bit in other years, too)..  I was DCA'ing and buying on dips, and I tended to have a weekly timeline in which I tried to make my buys (or at least the weeks that I had an allowance for that week), and surely sometimes I was able to identify dips, but I also had practices where if I had not bought (used my weekly allowance) for that week by a certain date, then I would just buy BTC at whatever the BTC price was at that deadline time.. and then at that point after I bought for that week, I would have my allowance for the following week that I could use for attempting to strategize my buying on the dip for the next week.. and the same thing, if I could not identify any further dip for several days into the week, I would just buy my allowance amount at the end of that following week.. and keep repeating the same thing each week - at least during the weeks that I had established an allowance for myself.

Frequently it can also be painful to continue to buy BTC and even to be attempting to buy BTC aggressively, because frequently it can feel like the BTC price keeps dipping (which it has done for the last year).. so sure now may well be a bottom, but now might not be the bottom, so there likely still remains some will power to keep buying if you are able to buy..and so it can be ongoingly painful financially and psychologically and sometimes we might just run out of money, but if we have a cashflow, we might still be able to buy from time to time when our cashflow is coming in and if our cashflow is enough, even though maybe not every single week and maybe not as much as we would want to because we need to make sure that we do not screw up our cashflow in such a way that we are not able to cover our regular expenses (including emergency expenses too)..

[Die_empty]

I pretty much agree with everything that you say GigaBit. however, much of DCA is to buy at any price until you reach some BTC accumulation goals that you have set for yourself.. and including that maybe it could take you 4-10 years or longer to reach your BTC accumulation goals.. and then once you reach your BTC accumulation goals, it might take another 4-10 years before you are going to start to feel that maybe you are in a position to start to cash out parts of your bitcoin in order that you start to directly and materially benefit from having had spent so much time building your BTC stash....

I am not suggesting that anyone will necessarily have to wait 20 years to materially profit from bitcoin, or even that any of us would necessarily have to sell our bitcoin in order to substantially and materially profit building up a BTC stash.

Largely we are able to profit from building up wealth, even if we are not necessarily spending from our built up wealth.. because having the wealth gives more options including that we may well be way more liberated to spend our dollars more quickly and readily once we have already built wealth in bitcoin, so we would not necessarily have to wait for 20 years or even have to wait to actually directly spend our bitcoin in order to profit from our having had built our bitcoin stash... to whatever level that we are able to do at our own individual level of capability.. and like you seem to be suggesting GigaBit to be aggressive about the BTC accumulation without becoming overly aggressive.

Personally, I do not mind the idea of trying to improve upon DCA by buying on the dip or increasing buys at certain times, but it is not really easy to accomplish and sometimes it is better to just buy without trying to be too strategic about it... because it is quite likely that there is not going to be much ability to maximize dip buying points, and in the very long run, the extent that you might have stacked more sats or bought at lower prices is NOT likely going to make BIG differences  - or at least not as BIG of a difference as the fact that you are just doing the buying ongoingly and regularly.  I recall that for my couple of years in bitcoin (mostly in 2014 and 2015 a little bit in other years, too)..  I was DCA'ing and buying on dips, and I tended to have a weekly timeline in which I tried to make my buys (or at least the weeks that I had an allowance for that week), and surely sometimes I was able to identify dips, but I also had practices where if I had not bought (used my weekly allowance) for that week by a certain date, then I would just buy BTC at whatever the BTC price was at that deadline time.. and then at that point after I bought for that week, I would have my allowance for the following week that I could use for attempting to strategize my buying on the dip for the next week.. and the same thing, if I could not identify any further dip for several days into the week, I would just buy my allowance amount at the end of that following week.. and keep repeating the same thing each week - at least during the weeks that I had established an allowance for myself.

Frequently it can also be painful to continue to buy BTC and even to be attempting to buy BTC aggressively, because frequently it can feel like the BTC price keeps dipping (which it has done for the last year).. so sure now may well be a bottom, but now might not be the bottom, so there likely still remains some will power to keep buying if you are able to buy..and so it can be ongoingly painful financially and psychologically and sometimes we might just run out of money, but if we have a cashflow, we might still be able to buy from time to time when our cashflow is coming in and if our cashflow is enough, even though maybe not every single week and maybe not as much as we would want to because we need to make sure that we do not screw up our cashflow in such a way that we are not able to cover our regular expenses (including emergency expenses too)..

The timeline you gave about bitcoin investment have instilled some important knowledge about investment. I was thinking that I could just invest and maybe sell in few years when the price goes up. But knowing that just like investing in landed properties, bitcoin is saving for the future. 20years might seem to be a very long time but the truth is it is just around the corner. The lesson of ensuring that funds or finances needed for our daily needs as well as for emergences should always be available and not be totally invested out of zeal or uncontrollable aggressiveness is also beneficial. to me. Having a total belief that regardless of the fall, there is hope that the price of bitcoin would recover someday is also very important.  

It is also important that we make plan for our investment incase one dies before the investment maturity date. Our heirs or dependents should be given the privilege of accessing our investment when we are no more.    

Sometimes reading the comments of master Jay is scary because of the length and some technical concepts. But if one is patient enough, they can be very educating and beneficial.

[GeorgeJohn]

Honestly, at the moment it is quite normal, simply, in colloquial terms, when making an investment for profit, people always search or buy at the time that is most convenient for them in terms of price, this situation is applicable to any investment. And yes... they are strong hands, but in the world of investments there are two types of people, winners and losers, each one chooses which side to be on, in my case I invested because it is a very good time to do it and with a positive mentality that bear fruit in the future, I hope not too distant.

For cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin investment, and it's what you focu on before investment, it's only two factors, which the price situation at the particular time, and secondly the next is the target you have for elongation of your investment, the only convenient time we the investors think that is the perfect time for investment is when the condition of Bitcoin price is suitable for you.

[JayJuanGee]

Honestly, at the moment it is quite normal, simply, in colloquial terms, when making an investment for profit, people always search or buy at the time that is most convenient for them in terms of price, this situation is applicable to any investment. And yes... they are strong hands, but in the world of investments there are two types of people, winners and losers, each one chooses which side to be on, in my case I invested because it is a very good time to do it and with a positive mentality that bear fruit in the future, I hope not too distant.

For cryptocurrency investment what you focu on before investment is two factors, which is the price situation at the particular time, and secondly the next is the target you have for elongation of your investment, the only convenient time we the investment think that is the perfect time for investment is when the condition of the price is suitable for you.

We are not talking about cryptocurrency, here...

[Sayeds56]

Honestly, at the moment it is quite normal, simply, in colloquial terms, when making an investment for profit, people always search or buy at the time that is most convenient for them in terms of price, this situation is applicable to any investment. And yes... they are strong hands, but in the world of investments there are two types of people, winners and losers, each one chooses which side to be on, in my case I invested because it is a very good time to do it and with a positive mentality that bear fruit in the future, I hope not too distant.

For cryptocurrency investment what you focu on before investment is two factors, which is the price situation at the particular time, and secondly the next is the target you have for elongation of your investment, the only convenient time we the investment think that is the perfect time for investment is when the condition of the price is suitable for you.

Timing is of the essence. The best time to buy for long term investment target is, when market sentiment is negative, Fear and Greed Index is reflecting extreme fear and Bitcoin price is down from 80% to 85% from its ATH.

My learning from experience is that new investors take entry in the market when market is extremely bullish but experienced and smart investors start booking profit on investment, they made during the bear market.

[crunck]

I don't know who is buying in the market, but personally I feel happy and extremely comfortable when bitcoin drops more because I see it as an opportunity to own bitcoin cheaply. As an investment, we should buy at a low price and wait to sell at a high price. There is nothing to fear when the market drops, the more it falls, the more you buy if you want to make big profits. This a very simple rule in investing.

[salad daging]

We are not talking about cryptocurrency, here...

HA HA HA.
Strong hand to buy bitcoin not cryptocurrency. lol

Honestly, at the moment it is quite normal, simply, in colloquial terms, when making an investment for profit, people always search or buy at the time that is most convenient for them in terms of price, this situation is applicable to any investment. And yes... they are strong hands, but in the world of investments there are two types of people, winners and losers, each one chooses which side to be on, in my case I invested because it is a very good time to do it and with a positive mentality that bear fruit in the future, I hope not too distant.

For cryptocurrency investment what you focu on before investment is two factors, which is the price situation at the particular time, and secondly the next is the target you have for elongation of your investment, the only convenient time we the investment think that is the perfect time for investment is when the condition of the price is suitable for you.

Timing is of the essence. The best time to buy for long term investment target is, when market sentiment is negative, Fear and Greed Index is reflecting extreme fear and Bitcoin price is down from 80% to 85% from its ATH.

My learning from experience is that new investors take entry in the market when market is extremely bullish but experienced and smart investors start booking profit on investment, they made during the bear market.

I guess so we are talking for the long term because bitcoin is best for long investment 5 years or more still being in negative market sentiment it doesn't matter that for me all of that there are benefits to accumulating bitcoin in bearish times whereas greed and panic is for people who don't strong on market sentiment they panic more because bitcoin is down 80% from ATH it doesn't need to be thought about because this is part of an annual cycle.

Experience for new investors must be instilled with some strong material to deal with this ordeal, for example, never panic, be able to face bearish situations, buy as many bitcoins as possible and most importantly be mentally strong for a long time, we may already have experience in bookkeeping that is have been earning so far while their new investors are just staring at the investment they are making.

Opportunity now to own bigger bitcoins at low prices but one who dares to buy it will be the dream of the future.

[Ryu_Ar1]

We can agree to disagree, and I already stated my various reasons in my earlier post including suggesting getting started in getting into bitcoin asap,

Regardless of anything, in this case it depends on each other's perspective when those who like shitcoin as the path to take is indeed up to them, but indeed in this case they actually also have to be aware that the risk is of course much greater. As for suggesting to immediately switch to Bitcoin, I think it's the most appropriate choice, of course, and I agree with this because being on Bitcoin is much better.

I am not responsible to teach newbies or anyone else basic money management merely because I am telling them to get started into BTC ASAP.. and the essence is that I am just letting them know (my opinion) that it would be a good idea for them to both look into bitcoin and get started ASAP, which includes (without my necessarily having to say it because there is a bit of common sense involved) their making sure that they protect themselves and engage in sufficient and adequate risk management within their own discretion and in regards to their own financial and psychological circumstances.

Edited to clarify the way that I had presented a few of my points

When someone is interested in something, of course they will find it by themselves and indeed we don't need to teach it because it's not an obligation and I think it's precisely by them finding out for themselves this will actually make them have their own beliefs so that without coercion or without words even sweet words they will definitely be here different from when they were taught from the beginning I think it's all about effort whether they want it or not because of course we need to learn to be more independent without always having to be fed by others.

Currently Bitcoin price have going down under $17,000 and right time for re investing, but many conflict interest in Bitcoin and several biggest countries not happy how Bitcoin become popular. I think United State is never allowed for Bitcoin become global legal currency transaction around the world, I know what bad impact when United State make FUD with Bitcoin.

In my opinion, when we are sure, why should we look at some of the existing fuds, because with that you actually lose the confidence to continue to be here, so there are indeed many examples now of people releasing bitcoins, even though they are actually losing money, especially buying at high prices.
Something like this is commonplace because before the current conditions in the past few years there was also a lot of fud but the fact is that bitcoin keeps coming back even ath again and again.

[JayJuanGee]

We can agree to disagree, and I already stated my various reasons in my earlier post including suggesting getting started in getting into bitcoin asap,

Regardless of anything, in this case it depends on each other's perspective when those who like shitcoin as the path to take is indeed up to them, but indeed in this case they actually also have to be aware that the risk is of course much greater. As for suggesting to immediately switch to Bitcoin, I think it's the most appropriate choice, of course, and I agree with this because being on Bitcoin is much better.

Well one thing is to make sure that anyone we talk to understands that when we are talking about bitcoin, we are talking about bitcoin, and not shitcoins.. so in that regard, we should try to make sure that we are clear in terms of making that point - especially since there is so much wrong information that is generally in the space that convolutes the ideas of bitcoin and shitcoins (and cryptocurrency).  Sometimes our audience will not know the difference and sometimes they might have already formed some opinions on the topic.  If they are already into investing into shitcoins, then they are likely going to be more committed to some of the shitcoin talking points... so the extent to which I might engage with someone who has already gone down the shitcoin path is merely to emphasize my points in regards to ONLY bitcion matters an they are gambling when they are fucking around with shitcoins.  I would not necessarily try to convince them about anything because ultimately it is up to them to figure out what they are doing and how to invest their money, and if they are interested in hearing my ideas, then I might talk with them, but generally, if they have invested in shitcoins they likely have already been vulnerable to dumb thinking and shitcoin misinformation and talking points.

I am not responsible to teach newbies or anyone else basic money management merely because I am telling them to get started into BTC ASAP.. and the essence is that I am just letting them know (my opinion) that it would be a good idea for them to both look into bitcoin and get started ASAP, which includes (without my necessarily having to say it because there is a bit of common sense involved) their making sure that they protect themselves and engage in sufficient and adequate risk management within their own discretion and in regards to their own financial and psychological circumstances.

Edited to clarify the way that I had presented a few of my points

When someone is interested in something, of course they will find it by themselves and indeed we don't need to teach it because it's not an obligation and I think it's precisely by them finding out for themselves this will actually make them have their own beliefs so that without coercion or without words even sweet words they will definitely be here different from when they were taught from the beginning I think it's all about effort whether they want it or not because of course we need to learn to be more independent without always having to be fed by others.

Yes... if someone is already investing into bitcoin or shitcoins or whatever, they have already taken actions, so that likely separates them from a lot of folks who do not do anything, so I am not necessarily opposed to bouncing ideas around if someone is already investing into other areas (such as shitcoins), but sometimes those conversations can become frustrating if the underlying premises are way different.  I tend to talk about the same kinds of things as I do in the forum, and to talk about long term investing, dollar cost averaging, figuring out budgets in order to not overly invest and not to leverage.. but also perhaps trying to find a point that is reasonably aggressive in terms of investing into BTC. .such as $100 per week.. and if they are beginning, I might point out some sources of information such as Swanbitcoin.com. .or maybe I will share some links to information, if we get that far in the conversation and someone seems receptive.  Many times people are not receptive, so many times I will tend to tell them that I don't give any shits if they invest into bitcoin or not, and I will remind them that I am not trying to sell them anything - so in that regard, they are responsible for their finances and figuring out how to allocate themselves and to prepare themselves financially and psychologically for whatever might come in the future.. including ongoing price rises or whatever else we have in-store in the coming years.

Currently Bitcoin price have going down under $17,000 and right time for re investing, but many conflict interest in Bitcoin and several biggest countries not happy how Bitcoin become popular. I think United State is never allowed for Bitcoin become global legal currency transaction around the world, I know what bad impact when United State make FUD with Bitcoin.

In my opinion, when we are sure, why should we look at some of the existing fuds, because with that you actually lose the confidence to continue to be here, so there are indeed many examples now of people releasing bitcoins, even though they are actually losing money, especially buying at high prices.
Something like this is commonplace because before the current conditions in the past few years there was also a lot of fud but the fact is that bitcoin keeps coming back even ath again and again.

Edited:  added answer to this last part that I had overlooked previously.

In the coming years, maybe even 10 to 30 years or even longer, there's always going to be some level of FUD in connection with bitcoin.  Status quo financial institutions, rich folks and even governments are having some struggles getting used to how bitcoin fits into the world as is, so there may well be desires to dampen and/or negatively affect bitcoin's adoption and ongoing building of various network effects.  So in some sense each of us has to balance our own investment choices in regards to accumulating bitcoin and even maintaining bitcoin while accounting for the fact that there is ongoing and persistent FUD.

Frequently, I will tell people that they should not allow the persistent and ongoing FUD to stop them from investing in bitcoin - even though they might still need to consider adjusting their position size to account for if they are concerned that some of the FUD information might be true - or somehow they might not be comfortable with the amount that they have chosen to invest into BTC.  

And, of course, position sizes and amount of allocation to BTC are individual in nature, and it seems to me that the folks who have been aggressive in their BTC accumulating approach (without over doing it) have done much better than folks who have either been whimpy or who have been scared away from investing at all into bitcoin.   There may well be some folks who would benefit greatly from taking a smaller investment size such as 1-5% rather than staying on zero, and surely they do not necessarily need to consider higher BTC position sizes that might end up being in the 5% to 25% levels.

[noormcs5]

The golden rules of buy low and sell high have never changed and Strong hands are never short sighted like panic sellers as the major difference between the two is that these look at the big picture when these cryptocurrencies will recover overtime, besides the market is cyclical and its all about waiting to catch the right wave before you cash in on your holding before the crash happens again.

If you're able to hold for long term, at least a year , then there is no way you can be at a loss. There are people who enter in bitcoin market any time and they think they can make quick money out it, which is not realistic. Think about anyone who entered in the market in 2021 at a peak price. He will have to wait at least 4 years to get

If you are able to hold bitcon for at least 4 to 5 years then you will always be in profit. Bitcoin pays maximum benefits to those
 who are the holders for long term. The longer you can hold, the better it is.

[dezoel]

Yes, there are FUDs but no we won't re-share that FUD news. We don't want our fellow bitcoiners to suffer. What we are actually doing is to stop those FUDers from spreading false news and constantly damaging this market. Even without the FUDs, it is still possible for us to buy a BTC at cheaper because a bear market can happen naturally.

For those who can't wait about the bear market, they can also buy BTC at a normal market conditions and their efforts are surely going to be compensated as long as they will learn how to HODL their coins tightly. Other than FUDs positive news like the one we have here can still occur. That should act as a counter for the people to gain confidence in BTC.

[Japinat]

There is no need for a dilemma, we have strong hands to start and invest in bitcoin and buy it from now on, which is currently down, while we can be optimistic that after the bearish ends, bullish will definitely appear, so those strong hands need to be held tightly so that we can hold on to the long term as expected many have suggested.
If we already know about the prospects for bitcoin, we must immediately get profits as soon as possible. What needs to be done is to continue to acquire bitcoins in any way, including DCA and Dips, which we feel are right to make our strategy for investing in bitcoins gradual, and from this stage we can accumulate within a certain period of time such as more than a year which is our target.

Currently Bitcoin price have going down under $17,000 and right time for re investing, but many conflict interest in Bitcoin and several biggest countries not happy how Bitcoin become popular. I think United State is never allowed for Bitcoin become global legal currency transaction around the world, I know what bad impact when United State make FUD with Bitcoin.

I have optimistic with Bitcoin can reach higher price again, but FUD seems stronger day by day and many bad news make Bitcoin crash from trusted and reputation exchange market crash like FTX until several biggest network get exploit and altcoin top ten position standing in market get drop drastically.

I know it's cliché but I do think that it's normal for the market to have some crashes, it somewhat an evolution needed for bitcoin to be much greater in the future. FUD's are normal during and a by-product from what has happened during these times and the future is also a mystery but we should know that the market will recover because it always will. And despite of what happened recently, there's no doubt that there's still a lot of investors who bought some of the coins that they'd think that would be more valuable in the future. Let's just be optimistic.

[Lida93]

Hard times begots hard decisions and those hard decisions are mostly made by the strong and in this case the financially strong. I'll say anyone shouldn't buy or buy right now but if your financial strength can carry you then you can go on buying more as the BTC current price good at the moment but we ain't sure if it might fall further as we enter 2023 or it will rise as many expects. But one thing for sure is that you can't lose even if the price falls further as long as you have the patience to wait BTC will definitely rise profitably for those that have the patient.  It that doesn't mean we should sink all our finances only into crypto.

[Sayeds56]

We can agree to disagree, and I already stated my various reasons in my earlier post including suggesting getting started in getting into bitcoin asap,

Regardless of anything, in this case it depends on each other's perspective when those who like shitcoin as the path to take is indeed up to them, but indeed in this case they actually also have to be aware that the risk is of course much greater. As for suggesting to immediately switch to Bitcoin, I think it's the most appropriate choice, of course, and I agree with this because being on Bitcoin is much better.

Well one thing is to make sure that anyone we talk to understands that when we are talking about bitcoin, we are talking about bitcoin, and not shitcoins.. so in that regard, we should try to make sure that we are clear in terms of making that point - especially since there is so much wrong information that is generally in the space that convolutes the ideas of bitcoin and shitcoins (and cryptocurrency).  Sometimes our audience will not know the difference and sometimes they might have already formed some opinions on the topic.  If they are already into investing into shitcoins, then they are likely going to be more committed to some of the shitcoin talking points... so the extent to which I might engage with someone who has already gone down the shitcoin path is merely to emphasize my points in regards to ONLY bitcion matters an they are gambling when they are fucking around with shitcoins.  I would not necessarily try to convince them about anything because ultimately it is up to them to figure out what they are doing and how to invest their money, and if they are interested in hearing my ideas, then I might talk with them, but generally, if they have invested in shitcoins they likely have already been vulnerable to dumb thinking and shitcoin misinformation and talking points.

I am not responsible to teach newbies or anyone else basic money management merely because I am telling them to get started into BTC ASAP.. and the essence is that I am just letting them know (my opinion) that it would be a good idea for them to both look into bitcoin and get started ASAP, which includes (without my necessarily having to say it because there is a bit of common sense involved) their making sure that they protect themselves and engage in sufficient and adequate risk management within their own discretion and in regards to their own financial and psychological circumstances.

Edited to clarify the way that I had presented a few of my points

When someone is interested in something, of course they will find it by themselves and indeed we don't need to teach it because it's not an obligation and I think it's precisely by them finding out for themselves this will actually make them have their own beliefs so that without coercion or without words even sweet words they will definitely be here different from when they were taught from the beginning I think it's all about effort whether they want it or not because of course we need to learn to be more independent without always having to be fed by others.

Yes... if someone is already investing into bitcoin or shitcoins or whatever, they have already taken actions, so that likely separates them from a lot of folks who do not do anything, so I am not necessarily opposed to bouncing ideas around if someone is already investing into other areas (such as shitcoins), but sometimes those conversations can become frustrating if the underlying premises are way different.  I tend to talk about the same kinds of things as I do in the forum, and to talk about long term investing, dollar cost averaging, figuring out budgets in order to not overly invest and not to leverage.. but also perhaps trying to find a point that is reasonably aggressive in terms of investing into BTC. .such as $100 per week.. and if they are beginning, I might point out some sources of information such as Swanbitcoin.com. .or maybe I will share some links to information, if we get that far in the conversation and someone seems receptive.  Many times people are not receptive, so many times I will tend to tell them that I don't give any shits if they invest into bitcoin or not, and I will remind them that I am not trying to sell them anything - so in that regard, they are responsible for their finances and figuring out how to allocate themselves and to prepare themselves financially and psychologically for whatever might come in the future.. including ongoing price rises or whatever else we have in-store in the coming years.

It is a good idea to invest at least $100/month (or whatever you can save after your monthly expenses) in Bitcoin and continue doing so, & don't bother much whatever is going in the market. I think this is the best retirement plan for those who are still young and can work 20 years or more before they retire. Their small amount of savings can potentially give them huge reward to enjoy their retired life.