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[Trofo]

I'm not sure about it, maybe 75 would be a bit too many. Something  about 50 players is optimal number. With more players chances to win something is getting significantly smaller.

75 might be too many to expect, but I wouldn't put any limit on the number of people who want to participate.  If we could get 75 players, I think that would be cool.  If that were to happen I wouldn't mind seeing the prizes awarded to the top 15 participants.  That would 20% which is pretty good odds for all of us to make the cut.

We shall see how our pool captain will award the prizes. Personally I like there to be many awarded places but with very top heavy distribution. Meaning I would give probably 40% (maybe 0.1BTC should be here somewhere) to the first place, and maybe 90% to top 5. Then let 10 more people double their stakes or something like that. Doesn't matter in the end that much we will all strive to get that coveted no.1 spot no matter how prizes get distributed.

[hilariousandco]

We need ten more sign-ups to get over 0.3BTC in the pool. Please don't leave it last minute to sign up if you can as I'd like to get the prizes sorted out for 2nd-10th places.

[Harkorede]

Bump. We need ten more sign-ups to get over 0.3BTC in the pool. Please don't leave it last minute to sign up if you can as I'd like to get the prizes sorted out for 2nd-10th places.

If possible please be rest assured that, I'll be joining definitely so you can count me already, I'll just have to pay a bit later, but most definitely at most a day or two before be the league gets started, most of my rl earnings and on forum BTC are currently majorly going towards a post graduate education and some other more personal stuffs for me at the moment, but I'm sure wouldn't be missing out on the the pool.

[darxiaomi]

We need ten more sign-ups to get over 0.3BTC in the pool. Please don't leave it last minute to sign up if you can as I'd like to get the prizes sorted out for 2nd-10th places.

At the same of Harkorede here, i surely play , but im waiting to pay because im waiting to know if can join any signature campaign, if not i pay directly from other side.

[Hhampuz]

Bump. We need ten more sign-ups to get over 0.3BTC in the pool. Please don't leave it last minute to sign up if you can as I'd like to get the prizes sorted out for 2nd-10th places.

If possible please be rest assured that, I'll be joining definitely so you can count me already, I'll just have to pay a bit later, but most definitely at most a day or two before be the league gets started, most of my rl earnings and on forum BTC are currently majorly going towards a post graduate education and some other more personal stuffs for me at the moment, but I'm sure wouldn't be missing out on the the pool.

I like you and post graduate education is great! I'll pay for your spot

[hilariousandco]

9 more users until 0.3 now. If there's people who've said you'll pay can you state so so I can get a figure of how many more people we need.

Bump. We need ten more sign-ups to get over 0.3BTC in the pool. Please don't leave it last minute to sign up if you can as I'd like to get the prizes sorted out for 2nd-10th places.

If possible please be rest assured that, I'll be joining definitely so you can count me already, I'll just have to pay a bit later, but most definitely at most a day or two before be the league gets started, most of my rl earnings and on forum BTC are currently majorly going towards a post graduate education and some other more personal stuffs for me at the moment, but I'm sure wouldn't be missing out on the the pool.

I like you and post graduate education is great! I'll pay for your spot

You should pay for new users rather than ones who are going to pay.

[mv1986]

If we can find a better site I'd consider changing. It's a shame you can't set your own points system as I think getting the exact score should get you 5 points. That's how it used to be on the old BBC site but they closed it. Other than that Superbru is perfectly fine for me.

Agreed! 5 points for exact score would make a world of difference IMO, as well as make possible comebacks more thrilling but.. It is good otherwise although I may not entirely agree with the "close" scoring system. Just minor complaints though!

Also I know what I just PM'd you but I'll just announce it here now: I've sent 4x payments to the address which means I'm freerolling 3 people who can commit to the full season and try this out - I want to see some new faces! Not sure how the decision process will work but.. Feel free to post your interest in this thread or send me a pm and I'll sort it out with hilariousandco. This means I'd prefer not to freeroll any of the regulars who join in every season anyways

Hey guys,

was reading up on the thread and found that you can't change the parameters. I do believe it should be possible with this provider. That is what we are going to use for the German Bundesliga prediction game. Checked whether there is an English version of it and this is what I found. Hope this might still be of help!

https://www.kicktipp.co.uk

I am onboard as well, tx-id was sent to @hilariousandco.

Cheers!
MV

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I should have some free time to take part in this upcoming season Premier League prediction pool and join in the fun with everyone.

@hilariousandco I sent you a pm link with the txid, thank you very much

[hilariousandco]

We need 7 more people now until we have 0.3 in the pot.

Hey guys,

was reading up on the thread and found that you can't change the parameters. I do believe it should be possible with this provider. That is what we are going to use for the German Bundesliga prediction game. Checked whether there is an English version of it and this is what I found. Hope this might still be of help!

https://www.kicktipp.co.uk

I am onboard as well, tx-id was sent to @hilariousandco.

Cheers!
MV

Thanks for the link. I checked it out but I'm not sure where you get to change the points awarded. It seems to mention a standard 2 points for the outcome, 3 for a close and 4 for the correct score and the 'Rule or Nine':

For the rule "Example "Rule of nine"", the following score results:

    Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-2" -> 0 Points (wrong tendency)
    Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-0" -> 3 Points (Home win goal difference)
    Result: "1-1" - Tip: "0-0" -> 3 Points (Draw tendency)
    Results: "1-2" - Tip: "1-2" -> 5 Points (Away win result)

Whilst I think I would prefer something along the lines of 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 or 5 for the exact score the site seems a little basic and laggy. Do you have previous experience using the site?

[mv1986]

We need 7 more people now until we have 0.3 in the pot.

Hey guys,

was reading up on the thread and found that you can't change the parameters. I do believe it should be possible with this provider. That is what we are going to use for the German Bundesliga prediction game. Checked whether there is an English version of it and this is what I found. Hope this might still be of help!

https://www.kicktipp.co.uk

I am onboard as well, tx-id was sent to @hilariousandco.

Cheers!
MV

Thanks for the link. I checked it out but I'm not sure where you get to change the points awarded. It seems to mention a standard 2 points for the outcome, 3 for a close and 4 for the correct score and the 'Rule or Nine':

For the rule "Example "Rule of nine"", the following score results:

    Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-2" -> 0 Points (wrong tendency)
    Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-0" -> 3 Points (Home win goal difference)
    Result: "1-1" - Tip: "0-0" -> 3 Points (Draw tendency)
    Results: "1-2" - Tip: "1-2" -> 5 Points (Away win result)

Whilst I think I would prefer something along the lines of 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 or 5 for the exact score the site seems a little basic and laggy. Do you have previous experience using the site?

I played a bit around with the kicktipp.com website and found this:






I guess that is what we are looking for? You can tweak the parameters any way you want, but you can't set the goal difference to zero as it then says "value can't be lower than tendency". I find the interpretation of the table a bit confusing this way, but I guess it pans out to 1 point vs 4 points in any case of success (not 1 point vs 2 points vs 4 points). This way it looks a bit like you could score two points with tendency + goal difference while you are at an automatic disadvantage when you select draw because of the implied goal difference being zero anyway. I am sure that's taken care of.

I don't know about the performance though. It doesn't seem to be laggy to me so far, but no real experience with it thus far.

[cryptofrka]

If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.

I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.

[mv1986]

If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.

I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.

Fair point, I'd be fine either way. What I put in were just examples to demonstrate that changes would be possible if the community desires to do so.

[hilariousandco]

If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.

I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.

In my opinion it's the opposite. It's much easier to guess the outcome correctly but very difficult to get the score right and that should be rewarded accordingly. If Liverpool or City are playing then you can safely assume that they're likely to win. That's no surprise. However, there's much more skill or knowledge involved in getting the exact score right and that should be reflected in the points. Superbru's scoring leads to a table that is far too close for me, especially when you get half a point for a close score. If I was going to score my own I would probably do 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 for the score. I believe this is what the BBC Predictor scored (though they gave 100 and 400 points).

Maybe we can do a test run of the other site and get a handful of users to join into both pools and we can see how the tables differ or which site we prefer.

I played a bit around with the kicktipp.com website and found this:

Thanks. I will try it later.

[darxiaomi]

If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.

I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.

Im with you, its so much x5 in exact score, doesnt make sense. Exact Score its pure luck.

Lets take an example.

Player A:                                      PLAYER B:

TEAM A - TEAM B    (2:1)              TEAM A - TEAM B   (2:5)
TEAM C - TEAM D    (3:1)              TEAM C - TEAM D   (2:1)
TEAM E - TEAM F     (1:1)              TEAM E - TEAM F    (7:2)
TEAM G - TEAM H    (3:0)              TEAM G - TEAM H    (4:0)
Correct results:
Match 1 : TEAM A BEATS 1:0
Match 2 : TEAM C BEATS 4:0
Match 3 : Draw 2-2.
Match 4 : TEAM G BEATS 4:0.


So in this example we can clearly see one player knows about football (player A) he put a totally nearby results as you can see, but with the new rules he still lose agains player B who puts a totally no sense results and only win because in one match and for pure luck he put a 4-0.
As you can see Player A make a good analysis also, because he put a clearly win  to team G.
So i think its completly unfair give so much point for exact score.

Yes i know, if we give 3 points for nearby score, Player A can win in this example, but he doesnt make a huge gap against a player who play like a troll. And with only one exact score he can catch a "good player".

[cryptofrka]

In my opinion it's the opposite. It's much easier to guess the outcome correctly but very difficult to get the score right and that should be rewarded accordingly. If Liverpool or City are playing then you can safely assume that they're likely to win. That's no surprise. However, there's much more skill or knowledge involved in getting the exact score right and that should be reflected in the points. Superbru's scoring leads to a table that is far too close for me, especially when you get half a point for a close score. If I was going to score my own I would probably do 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 for the score. I believe this is what the BBC Predictor scored (though they gave 100 and 400 points).

For me, close scores should be more relevant. Agreed on the 'City will win' argument, but it really matters whether you put 2-1 or 4-0. If it ends 5-1, means that the 1st player was wide off the mark, and the 2nd one was close.

I like the example from darxiaomi - shows just how powerful luck can be.

I'm not saying 'ditch correct score bonus' though - I'd just like if it was smaller. 1 point for guessing the outcome, 2 for close result and 2,5 for correct one would be perfect IMO.

[hilariousandco]

8 more users now for 0.3.

In my opinion it's the opposite. It's much easier to guess the outcome correctly but very difficult to get the score right and that should be rewarded accordingly. If Liverpool or City are playing then you can safely assume that they're likely to win. That's no surprise. However, there's much more skill or knowledge involved in getting the exact score right and that should be reflected in the points. Superbru's scoring leads to a table that is far too close for me, especially when you get half a point for a close score. If I was going to score my own I would probably do 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 for the score. I believe this is what the BBC Predictor scored (though they gave 100 and 400 points).

For me, close scores should be more relevant. Agreed on the 'City will win' argument, but it really matters whether you put 2-1 or 4-0. If it ends 5-1, means that the 1st player was wide off the mark, and the 2nd one was close.

I don't understand why you think being close matters but not being exact. If you think being close matters and should get you extra points then getting the exact score should get you even more. Being close is just luck too. Predicting the correct score is relatively difficult and that should be reflected/rewarded in the points. It doesn't have be 5 but BBC's predictor of 1 and 4 was much better and actually had some diversity in the table.

I'm not saying 'ditch correct score bonus' though - I'd just like if it was smaller. 1 point for guessing the outcome, 2 for close result and 2,5 for correct one would be perfect IMO.

That's even worse than Superbru and the table would be even closer. It's far too close already and there's only mere points between winners, often only being ten or twenty points halfway down the table. This is a correct score predictor after all.

[Hhampuz]

More points for exact score = more skill involved. I see a lot of you claim that it becomes all about luck but I'd argue it's the exact opposite.

If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.

I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!

[cryptofrka]

I don't understand why you think being close matters but not being exact. If you think being close matters and should get you extra points then getting the exact score should get you even more. Being close is just luck too. Predicting the correct score is relatively difficult and that should be reflected/rewarded in the points. It doesn't have be 5 but BBC's predictor of 1 and 4 was much better and actually had some diversity in the table.

No, I said that 'exact' should reward the most points. Anything else would be plain stupid.
What I did say is that I feel that if the result is 1-0, the difference in points between 2-1 and 5-0 should be equal or bigger than between 1-0 and 2-1.

More points for exact score = more skill involved. I see a lot of you claim that it becomes all about luck but I'd argue it's the exact opposite.

If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.

I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!

How would that work? What if the game ends 3-0?
What I'm saying here again is that a guy who said it will be 3-0 should get the most points, but in comparison a 4-0 guess is much closer than a 2-1.

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Anyway - we all have our opinions and it's perfectly fine. I will play anyway - I'm just talking about preferences.

And if you want logic behind why we feel that correct results are pure luck, just check this example:

If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.

I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.

Im with you, its so much x5 in exact score, doesnt make sense. Exact Score its pure luck.

Lets take an example.

Player A:                                      PLAYER B:

TEAM A - TEAM B    (2:1)              TEAM A - TEAM B   (2:5)
TEAM C - TEAM D    (3:1)              TEAM C - TEAM D   (2:1)
TEAM E - TEAM F     (1:1)              TEAM E - TEAM F    (7:2)
TEAM G - TEAM H    (3:0)              TEAM G - TEAM H    (4:0)
Correct results:
Match 1 : TEAM A BEATS 1:0
Match 2 : TEAM C BEATS 4:0
Match 3 : Draw 2-2.
Match 4 : TEAM G BEATS 4:0.


So in this example we can clearly see one player knows about football (player A) he put a totally nearby results as you can see, but with the new rules he still lose agains player B who puts a totally no sense results and only win because in one match and for pure luck he put a 4-0.
As you can see Player A make a good analysis also, because he put a clearly win  to team G.
So i think its completly unfair give so much point for exact score.

Yes i know, if we give 3 points for nearby score, Player A can win in this example, but he doesnt make a huge gap against a player who play like a troll. And with only one exact score he can catch a "good player".

[darxiaomi]

I think we never come to a arrangement because we have a diferents points of view and this its ok its part of the life.

They think its more skill and us think its more luck.

I think we have one good argument in us side, if you see the odds are much higher for exact result if you bet, and that its because you have  less in control , in other words you depend more in luck.

As i said that i also said you have a good point in this.

If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.

I see that tactic in some users, but in the PL doesnt fit so good, because we have a ton of goals, but i give to you a point.

As i said before all can have arguments in favour or against. Its a difficult one.