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September 15, 2022, 10:40:00 PM
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It's not clear to me where that information in the article comes from, but I'm pretty sure that money didn't exist in 2000 BC. It was not even invented until around 900 BC, when it started being used in China. I think they meant to say that money laundering has existed for 2000 years, not that it existed in 2000 BC.


Indeed I am quite baffled how can money laundering through gambling exist when people are bartering  Grin.  No one can launder money when taxation is yet to be fully implemented.  Probably that site is exaggerating stuff but well, who knows maybe it did happen or not, no one can tell since we are not yet around by that time. I just got a hint though, since gambling is available during those times, probably some slave leaders gamble part of the trading items in order to bag the winnings and/or tell their master that the price got cheaper when they lost the wagering.  Well, anything can possibly happen...
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September 15, 2022, 11:25:45 PM
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That is known to everyone that gambling addicts need more money to gamble and there they have two options. Some of them lend and borrow money in order to gamble while more criminal minded people do anything illegal to get the money for gambling. In both cases, we never know if those gamblers were able to recover their money and made a profit out of it. Steps like these will make them lose more and eventually they will have no option left but to suicide.

I have heard many stories about people making money by criminal means. Very often they try to lose this money in casinos. Stolen money is easy to get and easy to get away with. The sooner the criminal gets rid of the extra money, the less trouble he will have with the law.

That makes absolutely no sense. They are not trying to "get rid" of their money, it is called money laundering. In effect, money laundering is when a person or entity seeks to mask the source of money obtained through illegal activities by moving it into assets and investments that are considered to be legal.

Here is a hypothetical scenario. What if you made illegal money through cybercrime, white collar crime, stolen property sales etc. and then you go to play roulette at your favorite casino. The possibility is that you will lose many times but you will win at some point and the money you win will no longer be connected to criminal activities, and no one will ever know the real source of your money. As the casino has no way to track the origin of your money, it will definitely let you cash out your legally earned winnings.


Yep, loosing is not really the objective, unless the casino actually belongs to the same organisation and then it is the perfect excuse to get money. In any case money laundering through playing seems a bit expensive. I do not play that game, so I do not really know the rates being paid, but it would seem that a casino would likely take half of it so...

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September 16, 2022, 09:32:18 AM
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It's not clear to me where that information in the article comes from, but I'm pretty sure that money didn't exist in 2000 BC. It was not even invented until around 900 BC, when it started being used in China. I think they meant to say that money laundering has existed for 2000 years, not that it existed in 2000 BC.


Indeed I am quite baffled how can money laundering through gambling exist when people are bartering  Grin.  No one can launder money when taxation is yet to be fully implemented.  Probably that site is exaggerating stuff but well, who knows maybe it did happen or not, no one can tell since we are not yet around by that time. I just got a hint though, since gambling is available during those times, probably some slave leaders gamble part of the trading items in order to bag the winnings and/or tell their master that the price got cheaper when they lost the wagering.  Well, anything can possibly happen...
It's better to think that it happened long ago because we don't know the truth. But we all agree that gambling has been around for a long time and can even be as old as human civilization when they started to know many things.

But it seems that if the slave leaders risked some of the trade items to be able to obtain other items, it seemed natural because human nature itself was greedy to possess many things. Moreover, the form of gambling will be very different from, say, a few hundred before this.


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September 16, 2022, 12:14:27 PM
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It is said that people are slaves of habits side by side people can do anything they want. It is also not impossible in gambling. There can be no problem with controlled gambling. It also has no chance of becoming addictive. Nowadays gambling is also said to be a source of entertainment so enjoyment is not considered as addiction.
Habits can be incredibly helpful but they can be very damaging as well, and the reason for that is that once something becomes a habit you do it without even thinking about it, it is because of this that you hear that it is often said that you need to develop good habits as eventually those will help you in the long run, an example of this is exercise, we know that exercising every single day when you have not ever done so is very difficult, but if you are able to overcome those feelings and you can exercise for a few months eventually this is going to become a habit, a habit which can be very good for your health, however the opposite can be true too and if you develop bad habits they can be incredibly harmful for your health.

As long as people keep make themselves entertain they keep make it as their satisfaction by time goes by people now make themselves make fun they make all the game or leisure time as a competition and by that it becomes known as gambling if they put an amount of money to make additional thrill in the game. Still too much gambling make yourself addicted into it and even you don't care with your health because as long as you win and satisfied yourself you will keep playing responsible gambler know its limit.

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September 16, 2022, 02:17:00 PM
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Addiction is quite danger, but it is possible to stay within the limits. Around the World most of the suicides were taking place out of money problem and this is not just about gambling money.
Sometimes, an addicted person needs Isolation and attention that should be carefully examined either gambling or non-gambling, a gambler who is addicted may want to stay out of the limit but if they found their self in some situations they cannot control, they will definitely go back. Take, for instance, a gambler that has borrowed money from different people, especially loan sharks who always threaten their customers who don't return the money.
That's very true because people who are addicted have to recover from addiction and if someone helps them, I think it will help their recovery process and they can get rid of that addiction. And if an addict wants to return to gambling, people will remind him to stay away from gambling. But throughout the history of gambling, not many people were able to do it because most of them could return to gambling easily. And this is why the history of gambling will continue but may take a different form from the gambling that existed before.
It is said that people are slaves of habits side by side people can do anything they want. It is also not impossible in gambling. There can be no problem with controlled gambling. It also has no chance of becoming addictive. Nowadays gambling is also said to be a source of entertainment so enjoyment is not considered as addiction.

Being addicted to gambling, drinking, clubbing or any other things also depend on the environment you are brought up and the manner in which you were brought up. Some people are trained to be disciplined and learn where to cut the thread. When a habit is becoming repetitive, you should know and caution yourself. But most times it is difficult to control when you have a group of friends who influences you and in such a situation the remedy is always to relocate and have a fresh life somewhere else in a different environment.

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September 16, 2022, 02:58:39 PM
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As long as people keep make themselves entertain they keep make it as their satisfaction by time goes by people now make themselves make fun they make all the game or leisure time as a competition and by that it becomes known as gambling if they put an amount of money to make additional thrill in the game. Still too much gambling make yourself addicted into it and even you don't care with your health because as long as you win and satisfied yourself you will keep playing responsible gambler know its limit.

To cap this, i thought about a kind of lifestyle gamblers developed in the past with going to the casino house all through the day, enjoying pleasure o the fullest, there they make connections, money and enjoy alot fun with bitches, they are never in haste to go home because they know that in there, there's a continuous flow of the latest hit gamblers, drugs dealers and all sort of business flows in 24/7, even when they spend they make more than they've spent back in return, some gamblers can't just loss because they are so sensitive to how things been done in the casino.

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September 16, 2022, 07:49:19 PM
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one of the triggers of gambling addiction is the desire to chase losses, and then they got lost (addicted) along the process.
This is what makes many gamblers end up getting addicted because they want to recover their losses and keep trying. They never think about how much money they will use to chase losses and how much they are prepared to lose. Even though, in the end, their losses are getting bigger, they still don't stop, making them even more addicted to gambling, and it is very difficult to stop it.

This is what I call the search for revenge against the casino, which seems to me to be a very foolish decision and worthy of being an immature player, a player when he loses his money willing to lose, what he should do is assume the loss and go another day, with a clearer head and thinking, without the need to have negative feelings, partly when a person gets desperate and wants to recover what he lost is when addiction problems come and especially from the search for money to as a matter of course, and this brings as a consequence the worst things that a human being is capable of going through in search of money, it is something sad but it always happens, that is what should be avoided.

As long as people keep make themselves entertain they keep make it as their satisfaction by time goes by people now make themselves make fun they make all the game or leisure time as a competition and by that it becomes known as gambling if they put an amount of money to make additional thrill in the game. Still too much gambling make yourself addicted into it and even you don't care with your health because as long as you win and satisfied yourself you will keep playing responsible gambler know its limit.

To cap this, i thought about a kind of lifestyle gamblers developed in the past with going to the casino house all through the day, enjoying pleasure o the fullest, there they make connections, money and enjoy alot fun with bitches, they are never in haste to go home because they know that in there, there's a continuous flow of the latest hit gamblers, drugs dealers and all sort of business flows in 24/7, even when they spend they make more than they've spent back in return, some gamblers can't just loss because they are so sensitive to how things been done in the casino.
I think that one of the best ways to see the game is like this, just for fun, because there are people who want to see the game as a lifestyle, and well they can do it as long as they have enough money to support themselves and go out afloat from everything without needing the money that is being spent in a casino, that is something that can manifest itself in people who are really very rich and can give themselves a type of luxury like that, however to one as an average player, the healthiest thing one does is allocate money totally willing to lose it and not more than that, because spending more money than normal is not something very intelligent.

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September 16, 2022, 09:31:42 PM
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But it seems that if the slave leaders risked some of the trade items to be able to obtain other items, it seemed natural because human nature itself was greedy to possess many things. Moreover, the form of gambling will be very different from, say, a few hundred before this.

Indeed, technology may develop and evolve, but the human nature stay as it is.  So basically slave leaders cheating their master is very possible especially if master is too trusting to its slave leader.  We also see this kind of scenario today where a manager embezzle company money because of gambling addiction and criminals launder money through casinos.  So I think it is really possible that money laundering (terms may not be known during those age) through gambling during the bartering days.
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September 17, 2022, 02:03:36 AM
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But it seems that if the slave leaders risked some of the trade items to be able to obtain other items, it seemed natural because human nature itself was greedy to possess many things. Moreover, the form of gambling will be very different from, say, a few hundred before this.

Indeed, technology may develop and evolve, but the human nature stay as it is.  So basically slave leaders cheating their master is very possible especially if master is too trusting to its slave leader.  We also see this kind of scenario today where a manager embezzle company money because of gambling addiction and criminals launder money through casinos.  So I think it is really possible that money laundering (terms may not be known during those age) through gambling during the bartering days.
So anything can happen in gambling because we can act beyond the minds of many people who can even do something bad. The cases that have occurred in gambling make a long list of gambling history so that perhaps for historians, gambling is something interesting to study and can be used as a science that can be useful for avoiding addiction problems. Gambling addiction has existed since immemorial but in a very different form from today. The root of the problem remains the same: the desire to have more by not looking at our abilities or being greedy.


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September 17, 2022, 09:06:17 AM
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As long as people keep make themselves entertain they keep make it as their satisfaction by time goes by people now make themselves make fun they make all the game or leisure time as a competition and by that it becomes known as gambling if they put an amount of money to make additional thrill in the game. Still too much gambling make yourself addicted into it and even you don't care with your health because as long as you win and satisfied yourself you will keep playing responsible gambler know its limit.

To cap this, i thought about a kind of lifestyle gamblers developed in the past with going to the casino house all through the day, enjoying pleasure o the fullest, there they make connections, money and enjoy alot fun with bitches, they are never in haste to go home because they know that in there, there's a continuous flow of the latest hit gamblers, drugs dealers and all sort of business flows in 24/7, even when they spend they make more than they've spent back in return, some gamblers can't just loss because they are so sensitive to how things been done in the casino.
I think that one of the best ways to see the game is like this, just for fun, because there are people who want to see the game as a lifestyle, and well they can do it as long as they have enough money to support themselves and go out afloat from everything without needing the money that is being spent in a casino, that is something that can manifest itself in people who are really very rich and can give themselves a type of luxury like that, however to one as an average player, the healthiest thing one does is allocate money totally willing to lose it and not more than that, because spending more money than normal is not something very intelligent.

And if we are to take a look at this gamblers set of people, they are the elite ones find in this category, these are not the hungry types, they have their money and already in it millions, spending isn't s problem because they are rest assured there will always be more continuous business in there, i think gamblers are also in stages with levels, whereby you find the kind of category that only involved the vip gamblers already into money, the pleasure there is more than enough actually and for an average responsible man, he may not look back home than living his daily live in the casino if care is jot taken.

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Being addicted to gambling, drinking, clubbing or any other things also depend on the environment you are brought up and the manner in which you were brought up. Some people are trained to be disciplined and learn where to cut the thread. When a habit is becoming repetitive, you should know and caution yourself. But most times it is difficult to control when you have a group of friends who influences you and in such a situation the remedy is always to relocate and have a fresh life somewhere else in a different environment.
There have been many studies made which show that people do in groups things they would never do when they're on their own, this means that even if you have a lot of self-discipline if you happen to go with your friends to a casino then you'll have bigger chances of betting way more money than what you can afford to lose, and if to this we add that you're more likely to drink alcohol as well then this can be more than enough to make you disregard your upbringing and lose a lot of money in a single night.
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There have been many studies made which show that people do in groups things they would never do when they're on their own, this means that even if you have a lot of self-discipline if you happen to go with your friends to a casino then you'll have bigger chances of betting way more money than what you can afford to lose, and if to this we add that you're more likely to drink alcohol as well then this can be more than enough to make you disregard your upbringing and lose a lot of money in a single night.

The study is correct and it has been proven so many time to be correct. The act of friendship or moving in group makes one to things he can't as an individual.  Wheb going for clubbing, dinking and going for gambling, there is every tenndency of calling your friends to go in group in order to have a much fun, and the presence of Friends will make you drink more than you could, same with gambling, when you bet in groups, whether you are in the wiinijg side or the losing side doesn't matter, you will continue to bet till you all are tired or out of fund. But the, apart from the negative implication of it guys also enjoy entertainment aspect of it.

It is the entertainment aspect of it that keeps them going and bonding stronger. But however it is said, disassociating from a certain group of friends will not totally stop gambling addiction, but it will reduce. But it will reduce it. The fastest way to reduce it is to have a love one who will help you out by trying to control you with emotions.

But the early age of gambling didn't come with addiction. From gambling history, it shows that gambling is transiting in phases and there would be more development in the future.

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September 19, 2022, 02:27:57 PM
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There have been many studies made which show that people do in groups things they would never do when they're on their own, this means that even if you have a lot of self-discipline if you happen to go with your friends to a casino then you'll have bigger chances of betting way more money than what you can afford to lose, and if to this we add that you're more likely to drink alcohol as well then this can be more than enough to make you disregard your upbringing and lose a lot of money in a single night.

The study is correct and it has been proven so many time to be correct. The act of friendship or moving in group makes one to things he can't as an individual.  Wheb going for clubbing, dinking and going for gambling, there is every tenndency of calling your friends to go in group in order to have a much fun, and the presence of Friends will make you drink more than you could, same with gambling, when you bet in groups, whether you are in the wiinijg side or the losing side doesn't matter, you will continue to bet till you all are tired or out of fund. But the, apart from the negative implication of it guys also enjoy entertainment aspect of it.

It is the entertainment aspect of it that keeps them going and bonding stronger. But however it is said, disassociating from a certain group of friends will not totally stop gambling addiction, but it will reduce. But it will reduce it. The fastest way to reduce it is to have a love one who will help you out by trying to control you with emotions.
It's natural to get a little panicky when you and your friends get involved in a casino or gambling activity together. At that moment everyone is drinking a little bit so the unconscious part naturally occurs. But it can organize after a long period of time but not regularly. Such events must be treated as entertainment. After the moment when a gambler starts gambling again he has to gamble systematically according to his way.

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September 19, 2022, 07:11:23 PM
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But it seems that if the slave leaders risked some of the trade items to be able to obtain other items, it seemed natural because human nature itself was greedy to possess many things. Moreover, the form of gambling will be very different from, say, a few hundred before this.

Indeed, technology may develop and evolve, but the human nature stay as it is.  So basically slave leaders cheating their master is very possible especially if master is too trusting to its slave leader.  We also see this kind of scenario today where a manager embezzle company money because of gambling addiction and criminals launder money through casinos.  So I think it is really possible that money laundering (terms may not be known during those age) through gambling during the bartering days.
So anything can happen in gambling because we can act beyond the minds of many people who can even do something bad. The cases that have occurred in gambling make a long list of gambling history so that perhaps for historians, gambling is something interesting to study and can be used as a science that can be useful for avoiding addiction problems. Gambling addiction has existed since immemorial but in a very different form from today. The root of the problem remains the same: the desire to have more by not looking at our abilities or being greedy.

Indeed, there are even turf wars and group fight because of gambling.  It was stated that in ancient time, clan fighting each other because of gambling.  When one group lost and they found out that the opposing group cheated, it often ends up in a bloody clan war or gang fight.  It often happens until gambling industry is taken over by the government and impose several laws and provably fair system.
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September 19, 2022, 08:23:30 PM
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It is said that people are slaves of habits side by side people can do anything they want. It is also not impossible in gambling. There can be no problem with controlled gambling. It also has no chance of becoming addictive. Nowadays gambling is also said to be a source of entertainment so enjoyment is not considered as addiction.
Being addicted to gambling, drinking, clubbing or any other things also depend on the environment you are brought up and the manner in which you were brought up. Some people are trained to be disciplined and learn where to cut the thread. When a habit is becoming repetitive, you should know and caution yourself. But most times it is difficult to control when you have a group of friends who influences you and in such a situation the remedy is always to relocate and have a fresh life somewhere else in a different environment.
someone knows playing gambling must be because of an invitation from a friend or seeing a friend playing and then winning (it is impossible for him to know by himself) then the environment plays a big role in shaping a person's character and mindset

Gambling history has written that those who often play in casinos with friends will definitely drink alcohol or enjoy hookers together, there is a principle out there that says that doing things in groups is more fun

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The thing is that before some people realise their mistake it take them so long. We know that environment is the shortest thing that can influence human being so if environment is involved the only thing that I can solve the problem is also environment so that is to relocate from the nail place you are at another place to save that particular soul
When the environment is involved, I don't think it's easy to get away from it because we meet the same people daily and there is no desire to change.
It makes it difficult for them to initiate change and without the other party or, in this case, the family, they will probably continue like that.
And if they move to another place but still have the same environment as the previous place, they will find it difficult to change.
It will require a strong desire to change and say no if someone wants to take him back to gambling.

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Interesting info, mate! After reading it I started digging a bit more about history of dice, and found things I didn't know. I knew that Ancient Egyptians were using dice, but I always thought it was something like this



It appeared they were using a six sided dice, like this one



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Interesting info, mate! After reading it I started digging a bit more about history of dice, and found things I didn't know. I knew that Ancient Egyptians were using dice, but I always thought it was something like this



It appeared they were using a six sided dice, like this one



3000 thousand years BC!

Wow! The ancient Egyptians were already playing dice 3,000 years ago. Even a six sided dice is the same as it is today. Perhaps the Egyptians weren't the first to invent dice either. In any case, it's a very interesting fact.

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Being addicted to gambling, drinking, clubbing or any other things also depend on the environment you are brought up and the manner in which you were brought up. Some people are trained to be disciplined and learn where to cut the thread. When a habit is becoming repetitive, you should know and caution yourself. But most times it is difficult to control when you have a group of friends who influences you and in such a situation the remedy is always to relocate and have a fresh life somewhere else in a different environment.
There have been many studies made which show that people do in groups things they would never do when they're on their own, this means that even if you have a lot of self-discipline if you happen to go with your friends to a casino then you'll have bigger chances of betting way more money than what you can afford to lose, and if to this we add that you're more likely to drink alcohol as well then this can be more than enough to make you disregard your upbringing and lose a lot of money in a single night.
Yes, I would never advocate that a gambler will always be able to do responsible gambling. His gambling may also change due to various factors. Those reasons could be drinking beers at the casino with friends and then gambling recklessly or gambling on your own. Sometimes he spends more than he can afford. This happens to most gamblers. And this is considered normal behaviors of gambling.
And even if that happens to a person once I will not think that such a person has a gambling problem, they just lost control of themselves for a night and that is it, however it is when this becomes a regular occurrence when we need to begin to worry, as that is a very worrying sign which indicates there is a huge problem in the making, and if tackled immediately it can help that person to overcome his gambling issues relatively easily, but if left alone it could morph into a full gambling addiction which can be incredibly difficult to overcome.
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