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July 07, 2022, 05:27:44 AM |
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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction. Like every other site I decided to permanently exclude myself from stake. Only issue is that I was literally able to make another account on stake within 10minutes. All it takes is a new fake email and fake name and I'm back to gambling. I've lost count to how many accounts I've made because I always wanted to end the madness. I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing. How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....
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July 07, 2022, 05:39:29 AM |
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So I decided to have a bit of fun on stake casino. From a little fun turned into a huge addiction. Like every other site I decided to permanently exclude myself from stake. Only issue is that I was literally able to make another account on stake within 10minutes. All it takes is a new fake email and fake name and I'm back to gambling. I've lost count to how many accounts I've made because I always wanted to end the madness. I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing. How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....
Your problem is not Stake. You have a problem that you have to try to solve from within yourself. Even if you managed to exclude yourself permanently from stake and they won't let you create any more accounts, there are plenty of kyc-free crypto casinos where you could still gamble. If you find that you can't quit on your own, get help.
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July 07, 2022, 05:47:19 AM |
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If you find that you can't quit on your own, get help. This is the best and final solution to your addiction problem, get help since you can't handle it on your own, breaking addiction is not that easy and it requires a strong determination of self-discipline because as long as you keep going for no KYC casino you will have access to gamble. In this situation, the stake is not at fault since they already operated as a no KYC casino so the sole responsibility is placed on players to try to protect themselves from addiction.
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July 07, 2022, 05:49:53 AM |
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I would actually tell them hey I'm using a VPN, hey I'm 16 and playing here for them to ban me from they're sites but I just kept making new accounts and kept playing.
No casino will be able to block your registration if you are using VPN to create new accounts after doing self exclusion from other accounts. You wouldn't be able to do that if full KYC verification was required during the registration process. But none of the crypto casino does it. You should tell about your situation to your parents. Otherwise tell about it to your close people who can help you to get out from this gambling addiction. You should block the URL of gambling sites from your browser. Although you will have the option to unblock it, but you will get some extra time to think before repeating your mistake.
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July 07, 2022, 05:52:24 AM |
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I really find your concern a bit odd! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yeah sure, you can create as much account as you like, but I think, it is absurd to accuse Stake of lacking an effective self-exclusion program. They operate a casino and having someone to possibly lose their hard-earned money, is in its entirety, their business model. Plus, there is a delay before they can detect accounts with malicious intents. Not being hard on you but, I hope you find a solution you are comfortable with for your gambling issues.
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July 07, 2022, 05:53:03 AM |
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As said, it is not the problem with Stake, because Stake gives access to create your own account with a verified email address. Further depending on the users requirement there are levels of KYC verification. Here the problem is with OP. When you find yourself addicted and go for self exclusion, further what's the need of creating new account. You can request support team to remove from self exclusion.
If I'm not wrong someone could've said when playing with a new account it is possible to have higher chance of winning. And this is why OP is continuing to create new accounts.
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Prguy22 (OP)
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July 07, 2022, 05:57:32 AM |
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I can make 50 accounts with 50 fake emails. It's too easy. It's mind boggling that I'm able to deposit 100k worth of crypto using nothing but a fake name and fake email. Lose it. Close account self exclude Then repeat the process a week after with a new account. System identification is non existent
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July 07, 2022, 06:16:13 AM |
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I can make 50 accounts with 50 fake emails. It's too easy. It's mind boggling that I'm able to deposit 100k worth of crypto using nothing but a fake name and fake email. Lose it. Close account self exclude Then repeat the process a week after with a new account. System identification is non existent
When you go to withdraw is when they may hit you with KYC. Using a VPN isn't a good idea. It gets your money in but not out.
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July 07, 2022, 06:20:14 AM |
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I can make 50 accounts with 50 fake emails. It's too easy. It's mind boggling that I'm able to deposit 100k worth of crypto using nothing but a fake name and fake email. Lose it. Close account self exclude Then repeat the process a week after with a new account. System identification is non existent
you can do it over an over but its not stake's fault. you know yourself that its you who made the accounts just as you said it. if you want to stop, don't make a new account. but why create account in the first place? you exclude your first account that should make that account notable to bet. therefore its excluded. solve. just stop visiting stake or any other casino so you won't have urge to try again.
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July 07, 2022, 06:33:38 AM |
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Blaming someone else for your addiction is not the way to go.Even if Stake blocked your IP-s,including VPN-s as they can see your patterns which browser do you use,which OS and so on and so forth based on the addiction you have would immediately go to another website which does not require KYC and gamble all way out there.
I think the only solution to your problem is to ask for help from friends and family to go and visit a professional help center.There are also software which block many websites but based on your addiction I don't think they will work for you as you can uninstall them and go back to gambling in no time so the only solution is to seek professional help.
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July 07, 2022, 06:35:12 AM |
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You can get into huge action, sure but have you tried cashing out with all the fake accounts? Highly likely you wont be able to as if the amount is truly huge, you might have to go through KYC. There are levels of KYC as well depending on the amount you are working with. Almost all sportsbooks and casinos are very friendly while creating accounts but the issues arrive when it comes to withdrawal. If you are suffering from gambling addiction and the only problem you find is "its too easy to create new accounts", you should seek professional psychologist/help. Hope you get better.
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July 07, 2022, 06:41:01 AM |
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All deposits and withdrawals have never had any issues. The system does not identify users or create multiple accounts.
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July 07, 2022, 06:45:00 AM |
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"How are they allowed to do this" dude if you have a problem with gambling, seek help. reading through your post it seems that you really have no plan of taking your self-exclusion seriously and I don't think you'll get any(or at least from me) sympathy for what you are doing. also, if you really want to "end this madness" put yourself in a rehabilitation center because it looks like self-exclusion means nothing to you.
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July 07, 2022, 06:51:24 AM |
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How are they allowed to do this? Why am I able to make as many accounts as I want to continue gambling. I've self excluded again but I guarantee that in 2weeks time I'll.be back making a new account gambling. No other site allows you to do this. How will stake address this issue of players who permanently self exclude themselves but continue to make new accounts. I've actually got it down that I'm able to make a new account and play within 10minutes. It's a joke. I'm scared of what will happen.....
Or not stake.com that you are talking about? Before you can deposited on your account on Stake, you will have to submit ID documents. I was surprised that you come here with yourself saying you are able to open two and more accounts on Stake but I do not believe. If you click on deposit on the site, the image above will popup and you will need to verify. Having more than one account on gambling sites is against their ToS.
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July 07, 2022, 06:52:27 AM |
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He blames Stake because he still can make news accounts. Of course Stake will welcome everyone even your first and 2nd account and everybody else account as long as they place. They are building a casino business and if you lose its not their fault.
Since you tried self exclusion, I think you really have to take it seriously that you exclude yourself voluntarily. If you register another account VOLUNTARILY, then you also want to gamble VOLUNTARILY.
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July 07, 2022, 06:58:33 AM |
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There were big deposits and big withdrawls on each account.
All it takes to deposit crypto is a fake email, and fake European address. There is no verification process
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July 07, 2022, 07:04:06 AM |
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He blames Stake because he still can make news accounts. Of course Stake will welcome everyone even your first and 2nd account and everybody else account as long as they place. They are building a casino business and if you lose its not their fault.
Since you tried self exclusion, I think you really have to take it seriously that you exclude yourself voluntarily. If you register another account VOLUNTARILY, then you also want to gamble VOLUNTARILY.
Where the OP is driving to is that without stringent verification that it will be hard or not possible to successfully use self exclusion feature on a gambling site. That it is possible you self exclude yourself on a gambling site or your family self exclude you but you keep on registering on the same gambling site again and again because of verification that is not taken stringent, but that is not the case for Stake. Even addict should not deceive themselves and be blamming one gambling site, because there are other casino sites like https://livecasino.io and other trustworthy online casinos that he can also play, even if the sites all support KYC, an addict can register on more than one casino site and this is nothing different than moving from one casino to another and yet still gambling, making self exclusion more difficult to achieve by themselves. There were big deposits and big withdrawls on each account.
All it takes to deposit crypto is a fake email, and fake European address. There is no verification process
Maybe you can let us know your country to let a reputable member that is using Stake to testify to this. I set my VPN to France and just like I am using my IP address, verification was still required.
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July 07, 2022, 07:13:58 AM |
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You have nailed it on the head. Countries are New Zealand and australia.
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July 07, 2022, 12:39:07 PM |
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Most gambling sites that offer anonymous gambling do not prevent you from opening a new account.
Besides, as long as you are not cheating, you are always welcome to use the new account to continue gambling. They love people to gamble, so why would they care about that, just gamble and they'll be happy, but if you have a problem with gambling, then you are just fooling yourself, and I hope you will not blame a gambling site for your mistake.
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July 07, 2022, 12:53:54 PM |
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Maybe they're just slow at this which is understandable if they have a lot of players, I takes time to verify each account and you're making more than one a day. I bet you're not their only player to do so, but breaking the TOS is always risky. They can block your account and refuse to pay you anything, so every time you play you risk double. It could work a few times and then one time it won't and you'll come here crying that they're trying to scam you.
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