POKER

[Poker Player]

I have doubts about some things, the first, how do you know when he is a professional player and when he is not?

If you are the fish at the table, you are not going to know it.

do they have to show some credentials?

LOL.

No.

I think that a person is a professional when they have done enough tournaments in poker and that they have been in the first place or in the first places, but here everything seems to be different, many call themselves professionals based on their own criteria, and that is something that can be tested.

What you think does not define reality. A poker player is a professional when he makes a living from it. Period. It doesn't matter what modality he plays. It doesn't have to be tournaments. Many play cash, sit and goes or spins, although everyone plays a tournament from time to time.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't know how else OP can make them believe in their good faith, it's difficult, I know that marketing within the forum is something that can be very profitable but you have to know how to do it, the people in the forum are not stupid at all.

If his intention are really clear on selling those poker courses, he should post all the details about it. Based on his previous post, he will only entertain members that are interested via private message which I think seems fishy. It will even help him lessen some time catering to each PMs if he post the details. I've also been wanting to learn poker recently and his post got my attention but how he acts is not appropriate if he really is a legit seller.

That of the PM is not something reliable for me, these things like that are not highly recommended, have you not yet found a reliable member so that you can try the course? of course with some experience in poker, it's the only way, because it's no use someone who has no idea about poker, only with that caveat it's good that you can give a good review, or that the person who is providing the service put more things so that they can trust it, maybe the reviews of people, you should create your own website with the reviews and opinions of the people who have already done the course and above all the results that is what matters most.

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

Why not outline the areas which you would you really focusing. Now from your title you said for sales and your post now saying is for free how do you intends to?. I will also suggest since you said is for free, why not post it here on this thread maybe for people interested to read it and use as a guideline on how to start playing poker.
It could be a great help instead saling the guideline.

Well, you're right about that, sometimes a person is looking for a way to help, and not everything is free, even if they decide to charge for it, well, you have to respect them, I've played a lot of poker and I still have a lot to learn, I know that the a good poker player is done under the experience and playing in tournaments, obtaining different types of experiences to move forward, however I am a person who likes to read a lot, and read from the most experienced poker players, Well, thanks to their experiences one can learn, perhaps copy some strategies that can help a lot when playing and making decisions.

[johhnyUA]

I have doubts about some things, the first, how do you know when he is a professional player and when he is not?

If you are the fish at the table, you are not going to know it.

Good words. But I have something to add:

As it was said in Fargo: If you don't see any fish on the table, means YOU is the fish

Well, you're right about that, sometimes a person is looking for a way to help, and not everything is free, even if they decide to charge for it, well, you have to respect them

This is very rare case, about free lessons. This person will spend his time on you, teaching you something useful. His time should be paid. Everything fair

[LUCKMCFLY]

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I think that one of the strategies of poker is to determine how people play, usually a person will always have a model of plays or a pattern that they always follow, and that can be quickly determined by at least one machine in a casino, but for people who play actively at a game table requires a little more time, when it comes to playing physically it is easier because of their gestures, but when it is in a digital game way it is more difficult, I think the most easy to see is when bets are made and some check and some don't, I think that's a way that you can take into account to determine if you can get a person's style of play, but of course it's not entirely reliable .

I don`t think that playing in the internet easier than playing in offline casino. This is just different types of game. In online poker you don`t see the opponent, but the opponent doesn`t see you. That`s why you can concentrate on the game. And you don`t need to read the opponent, you spend all your time at cards. I think that it can be a problem to become offline player if you played only online before.

Well even these things make it possible in pookerstars.net, for me it is important and very realistic that at least faces could be seen, it is clear that here all privacy and anonymity would not exist, but I don't know, I think that the strategies between playing in online is one, and playing offline is another because there are more distractions, with online poker games it is easier to be able to concentrate as you say, the only way to persuade the remaining players is to make strategies regarding money, maybe Instead, bet more and make bigger bets so that the other players are afraid to bet, that is a strategy that can be applied and it is not necessary to see the gestures of the players.

I have doubts about some things, the first, how do you know when he is a professional player and when he is not?

If you are the fish at the table, you are not going to know it.

Good words. But I have something to add:

As it was said in Fargo: If you don't see any fish on the table, means YOU is the fish

Well, you're right about that, sometimes a person is looking for a way to help, and not everything is free, even if they decide to charge for it, well, you have to respect them

This is very rare case, about free lessons. This person will spend his time on you, teaching you something useful. His time should be paid. Everything fair

Of course, each person according to what they can offer, everything has a value, the only thing is that there are currently many tools to learn to play poker, I would be much more inclined because all this also has to be done some practices in full course, because the experience is everything in poker, I think there are many scenarios in each game, in each decision, that is where the professionalism of the player is seen, and that he supports any circumstance that requires him to make decisions under a high-pressure scheme and where manage money, a lot of money or a little, in the same way that you learn to make the best decision.

[mak013]

I don`t think that playing in the internet easier than playing in offline casino. This is just different types of game. In online poker you don`t see the opponent, but the opponent doesn`t see you. That`s why you can concentrate on the game. And you don`t need to read the opponent, you spend all your time at cards. I think that it can be a problem to become offline player if you played only online before.

Well even these things make it possible in pookerstars.net, for me it is important and very realistic that at least faces could be seen, it is clear that here all privacy and anonymity would not exist, but I don't know, I think that the strategies between playing in online is one, and playing offline is another because there are more distractions, with online poker games it is easier to be able to concentrate as you say, the only way to persuade the remaining players is to make strategies regarding money, maybe Instead, bet more and make bigger bets so that the other players are afraid to bet, that is a strategy that can be applied and it is not necessary to see the gestures of the players.

This looks same something between online and offline poker. I`d prefer to play online without video. It is not about anonymity but about concentration. For me much easier to play so - it doesn`t matter what i wear, what i do, how i breathe, i can concentrate on cards and my strategy. When i play offline i begin analyze opponents more than cards, it becomes another game. I like it too, but i can`t fast change my strategy.

[Betwrong]

~And I think poker courses are not really that relevant as people get to know more and develop more skills in poker games if they often play it in casinos. I’m not saying that these courses are useless, but people actually learn more from their own experience.

It can be true of some things, but not about poker. Yes, you could learn a lot from your own experience if you were someone playing 20 tables at ones, 10 hours per day for 20 years, but it would be much easier, and faster, to learn how to play from a pro.

Well, actually that is an old discussion and after having played for a long time and having read a lot in poker forums, I could assure that there is an equivalence according to which studying poker is equivalent to many hours of practice. So if you want to learn and advance the best thing you can do is to study and play.

In low levels, when you start it is not so important but when you go up levels, and more with how hard the tables are nowadays, there are players who spend more time studying than playing.

I agree with you, indeed the combination of learning from the best in the field and playing at the tables yourself is a great formula to succeed in poker.

Overall I think if someone is considering buying a poker course, they'd better read this thread attentively and get all they needed from the courses, but for free.

[johhnyUA]

Of course, each person according to what they can offer, everything has a value, the only thing is that there are currently many tools to learn to play poker, I would be much more inclined because all this also has to be done some practices in full course, because the experience is everything in poker, I think there are many scenarios in each game, in each decision, that is where the professionalism of the player is seen, and that he supports any circumstance that requires him to make decisions under a high-pressure scheme and where manage money, a lot of money or a little, in the same way that you learn to make the best decision.

As i Know, there not so much working patterns against few types of users. Which will help you to win on the long run. So when two close-skilled players are playing against each other, mostly luck depends.

If you want more practice, you don't need any courses.

[Fatunad]

Of course, each person according to what they can offer, everything has a value, the only thing is that there are currently many tools to learn to play poker, I would be much more inclined because all this also has to be done some practices in full course, because the experience is everything in poker, I think there are many scenarios in each game, in each decision, that is where the professionalism of the player is seen, and that he supports any circumstance that requires him to make decisions under a high-pressure scheme and where manage money, a lot of money or a little, in the same way that you learn to make the best decision.

As i Know, there not so much working patterns against few types of users. Which will help you to win on the long run. So when two close-skilled players are playing against each other, mostly luck depends.

If you want more practice, you don't need any courses.

You wont really need any courses yet everything could be find on the net if ever if you are finding for some theories but the rest would be depending on the experience on applying those ideas and theories that you had
learned up and making yourself more better or good will really be needing that experience which via on dealing against other players.There are things which cant really be learn through reading or getting some
hints and knowledge on other person but rather it could really be gained through real experience.This is why it would be ideal that you should learn poker on your own way
without needing to pay up money for some course.Its totally just a waste of money imho.

[Hamphser]

Of course, each person according to what they can offer, everything has a value, the only thing is that there are currently many tools to learn to play poker, I would be much more inclined because all this also has to be done some practices in full course, because the experience is everything in poker, I think there are many scenarios in each game, in each decision, that is where the professionalism of the player is seen, and that he supports any circumstance that requires him to make decisions under a high-pressure scheme and where manage money, a lot of money or a little, in the same way that you learn to make the best decision.

As i Know, there not so much working patterns against few types of users. Which will help you to win on the long run. So when two close-skilled players are playing against each other, mostly luck depends.

If you want more practice, you don't need any courses.

You wont really need any courses yet everything could be find on the net if ever if you are finding for some theories but the rest would be depending on the experience on applying those ideas and theories that you had
learned up and making yourself more better or good will really be needing that experience which via on dealing against other players.There are things which cant really be learn through reading or getting some
hints and knowledge on other person but rather it could really be gained through real experience.This is why it would be ideal that you should learn poker on your own way
without needing to pay up money for some course.Its totally just a waste of money imho.

There are free but there are expensive ones which there are really some difference among the two basing up on what you could learn.
As mentioned on this link

The courses aren't cheap with most requiring a one-time fee ranging from $299 up to $999. However, this could be a small price to pay, especially for higher-stakes players, when considering how the poker training courses can advance your game Source link: https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/poker-training-sites-30477.htm

Those arent indeed cheap.

[johhnyUA]

You wont really need any courses yet everything could be find on the net if ever if you are finding for some theories but the rest would be depending on the experience on applying those ideas and theories that you had
learned up and making yourself more better or good will really be needing that experience which via on dealing against other players.

Can't agree with this statement. Of course, it will be good to have some basic courses with sorted information. It's very hard to sort it in your heads from different sites (many of them is just having the same information), so it would be good if someone will feed your brain with sorted info. OR to have a top mentor, who will teach you some hacks.

But after that you need to play a lot of games to get practice. Here is where your definitely right.

without needing to pay up money for some course.Its totally just a waste of money imho.

Can't agree also. Good courses from poker tops worth their money.

[Finestream]

I think he's trying to offer free poker course for free and if it's truly, then anybody that is interested can easily jump on it and grab the opportunity if op is not trying to deceive us here. That  will be appreciated for those who will go for it but I think there is a motives behind this because it looks like he is trying to bring something in apart from the poker course.

In this time where you have the internet ready to assist you do anything you want, it is just with a seconds to get to follow some poker players on video and with that the possibility of scamming is out rather than the lesson op is offering that doesn't look like free in all aspects. What an interested person need to do is to  type in poker game on YouTube and all you are there. Learning poker is simple like you learn the cards, example the single card, pairs of same number, double pairs of two separate identical numbers, triple pairs etc.

I don’t see anything wrong with OP’s offer as long as he’s being honest but if you are a smart person, exploring the internet alone is a wise move as you can gained all the free details available online and also there are a lot of free video tutorials in youtube where they can be very helpful particularly for newbies in poker games. In the end, your experiences in poker games will always give the you the best lessons to learn.

[LUCKMCFLY]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

It looks like a frank scam, since you have registered on this forum recently. How can we trust you? I strongly do not recommend inexperienced forum users to trust such "mentors", as this is fraught with fraud.

Nobody would be willing to pay for some poker course from some newbie account as it could possibly be a scam attempt and we have seen these types of scams previously also so not interested in these.You need to build your trust on the forum if you are providing some services and then only you could able to get users otherwise it's really hard.

I think that the OP can give some proves private(but i don`t sure that it will be proves and not a scam try). It is to silly to try to scam in such a way. But the same time we saw so different scams that it is possible even such a try. Anyway i`m sure that such courses(even if it is true) can be useful only for pro-gamers and they know each other and can understand is it truth or not. For common poker player there are enough free courses.

I think the same as you, to do a poker course you only need to have a YouTube account and there are many who want to get followers and they can do it there, and there is a win-win exchange, where the Youtuber benefits and the person in question also because he learns, so this is something that I find difficult to believe when they want to give a course and it is paid, the only way is that the one who offers the course assures the person that they will always have profits, because they will give the best advice of people who are veterans in the game, and I think that even so it is not profitable, because everything depends on the person who receives it and how they think.

[len01]

~And I think poker courses are not really that relevant as people get to know more and develop more skills in poker games if they often play it in casinos. I’m not saying that these courses are useless, but people actually learn more from their own experience.

It can be true of some things, but not about poker. Yes, you could learn a lot from your own experience if you were someone playing 20 tables at ones, 10 hours per day for 20 years, but it would be much easier, and faster, to learn how to play from a pro.

Well, actually that is an old discussion and after having played for a long time and having read a lot in poker forums, I could assure that there is an equivalence according to which studying poker is equivalent to many hours of practice. So if you want to learn and advance the best thing you can do is to study and play.

In low levels, when you start it is not so important but when you go up levels, and more with how hard the tables are nowadays, there are players who spend more time studying than playing.

I agree with you, indeed the combination of learning from the best in the field and playing at the tables yourself is a great formula to succeed in poker.

Overall I think if someone is considering buying a poker course, they'd better read this thread attentively and get all they needed from the courses, but for free.

i call it learning from defeat at the table itself is better. telling the experiences of some very active gamblers at the poker table, they tell a lot that before becoming very smart gamblers at the poker table, they learned from defeat or mistakes when betting. they are constantly learning on their own and don't need a course to play poker.
i myself have felt when i first entered the poker table i often lost and continued to learn to read cards and guess and after i lost i continued to play poker but now i am proficient in poker games.
so the conclusion is that learning from your own experience is better

[mak013]

I think that the OP can give some proves private(but i don`t sure that it will be proves and not a scam try). It is to silly to try to scam in such a way. But the same time we saw so different scams that it is possible even such a try. Anyway i`m sure that such courses(even if it is true) can be useful only for pro-gamers and they know each other and can understand is it truth or not. For common poker player there are enough free courses.

I think the same as you, to do a poker course you only need to have a YouTube account and there are many who want to get followers and they can do it there, and there is a win-win exchange, where the Youtuber benefits and the person in question also because he learns, so this is something that I find difficult to believe when they want to give a course and it is paid, the only way is that the one who offers the course assures the person that they will always have profits, because they will give the best advice of people who are veterans in the game, and I think that even so it is not profitable, because everything depends on the person who receives it and how they think.

I think that nobody can guarantee you the profit after any courses. There are lots of moments that gives you or your opponent chance for winning. One of them is skill surely and you can improve it by courses. But i can`t even imagine what information you can get in the OP courses and why it costs money. I think that the OP can share some information and after that we can understand is it possible to find it for free or not.

[Betwrong]

~ As i Know, there not so much working patterns against few types of users. Which will help you to win on the long run. So when two close-skilled players are playing against each other, mostly luck depends.

If you want more practice, you don't need any courses.

I was thinking like this for a long time, but then I changed my mind at some point.

Let's explore what we mean by a "skilled poker player". It's a player that knows how to beat most of the players around at the present time, right? I say "at the present time" because there is no eternal formula for winning in poker, it changes over time. But what is even more interesting, it's not constant from person to person too. So if you know your opponent better than he knows you, you have a good chance of beating him not only because of luck.

[len01]

I think that the OP can give some proves private(but i don`t sure that it will be proves and not a scam try). It is to silly to try to scam in such a way. But the same time we saw so different scams that it is possible even such a try. Anyway i`m sure that such courses(even if it is true) can be useful only for pro-gamers and they know each other and can understand is it truth or not. For common poker player there are enough free courses.

I think the same as you, to do a poker course you only need to have a YouTube account and there are many who want to get followers and they can do it there, and there is a win-win exchange, where the Youtuber benefits and the person in question also because he learns, so this is something that I find difficult to believe when they want to give a course and it is paid, the only way is that the one who offers the course assures the person that they will always have profits, because they will give the best advice of people who are veterans in the game, and I think that even so it is not profitable, because everything depends on the person who receives it and how they think.

I think that nobody can guarantee you the profit after any courses. There are lots of moments that gives you or your opponent chance for winning. One of them is skill surely and you can improve it by courses. But i can`t even imagine what information you can get in the OP courses and why it costs money. I think that the OP can share some information and after that we can understand is it possible to find it for free or not.

if someone is already skilled in poker gambling for me there is no need to take a course because if they already have skills in poker they can develop it themselves without having to take poker courses.
but i think poker is just a matter of luck and skill is just a prop to getting closer to luck.
i can say this because i have been playing poker since i was 14 years old and until now i feel that my skills are good but when i am not lucky i will definitely lose. so for me the poker skills course is just a theory and the rest is luck.

[mak013]

I think that nobody can guarantee you the profit after any courses. There are lots of moments that gives you or your opponent chance for winning. One of them is skill surely and you can improve it by courses. But i can`t even imagine what information you can get in the OP courses and why it costs money. I think that the OP can share some information and after that we can understand is it possible to find it for free or not.

if someone is already skilled in poker gambling for me there is no need to take a course because if they already have skills in poker they can develop it themselves without having to take poker courses.
but i think poker is just a matter of luck and skill is just a prop to getting closer to luck.
i can say this because i have been playing poker since i was 14 years old and until now i feel that my skills are good but when i am not lucky i will definitely lose. so for me the poker skills course is just a theory and the rest is luck.

I played about 10 years and thought that i`m good enough. But one day my friend gave me several books about poker strategies. After these books i began to play much better and it became possible to play on several tables the same time to me.
I think that good players always study(as all other professionals) - from the opponents, looking other tourneys, reading and watching some courses, but i don`t sure that someone ought to pay for it.

[wiss19]

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

I want to ask because i want to know if poker game is it different from the casino game, because i know that what that needs coach in all this kinds of game's is soccer games, i believe that all this online games does not coach. And again in aome countries some gambling games is not known from there but i believe that gambling games that is popular and people like to play is soccer games

All card games are part of casino games so yes. Soccer is in fact an online game too. It's one of the games of sports betting. Not only soccer but all sports might also need a coaching because it's hard to determine a winner in sports betting as different factors are involved in here. Other casino games doesn't really need a coaching because they are too simple but poker can be different from them since poker is a skill based game just like sports betting.

There are so many things that one must know in order to master this game. Soccer is a famous game no doubt but don't you know that poker is a also a famous card game?

[LUCKMCFLY]

I have doubts about some things, the first, how do you know when he is a professional player and when he is not?

If you are the fish at the table, you are not going to know it.

Good words. But I have something to add:

As it was said in Fargo: If you don't see any fish on the table, means YOU is the fish

Well, you're right about that, sometimes a person is looking for a way to help, and not everything is free, even if they decide to charge for it, well, you have to respect them

This is very rare case, about free lessons. This person will spend his time on you, teaching you something useful. His time should be paid. Everything fair

I hadn't seen it that way, but you're right, I'm partly a person who learns things through books, it seems to me that books say it all, interpretations are what we give when analyzing the teachings that books give us. When there is a professional tutor, obviously the knowledge is much more rooted in the person, but what we put in context is that a course must be endorsed by at least 1 or 2 people, organizations that are trustworthy enough to take it, because there are currently Many people who like to cheat with this type of thing and cheat, I am not saying that whoever gives or offers the courses is like that, but it is necessary to have a good guarantee.

I think that nobody can guarantee you the profit after any courses. There are lots of moments that gives you or your opponent chance for winning. One of them is skill surely and you can improve it by courses. But i can`t even imagine what information you can get in the OP courses and why it costs money. I think that the OP can share some information and after that we can understand is it possible to find it for free or not.

if someone is already skilled in poker gambling for me there is no need to take a course because if they already have skills in poker they can develop it themselves without having to take poker courses.
but i think poker is just a matter of luck and skill is just a prop to getting closer to luck.
i can say this because i have been playing poker since i was 14 years old and until now i feel that my skills are good but when i am not lucky i will definitely lose. so for me the poker skills course is just a theory and the rest is luck.

I played about 10 years and thought that i`m good enough. But one day my friend gave me several books about poker strategies. After these books i began to play much better and it became possible to play on several tables the same time to me.
I think that good players always study(as all other professionals) - from the opponents, looking other tourneys, reading and watching some courses, but i don`t sure that someone ought to pay for it.

You are absolutely right my friend, a good player must always be updated, because now we have seen many players who do not leave their comfort zone and rely only on their previously acquired knowledge, and also fully trust their skills and intuition, and although they do not it is a bad perspective to think like that, we must bear in mind that the greatest teachers are the books, there in the majority of books I really like the experiences that many players have had and have trained them there, those are the books that I really teach, and this is how to trade, the more knowledge you have the better because it translates into making money.

As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

I want to ask because i want to know if poker game is it different from the casino game, because i know that what that needs coach in all this kinds of game's is soccer games, i believe that all this online games does not coach. And again in aome countries some gambling games is not known from there but i believe that gambling games that is popular and people like to play is soccer games

All card games are part of casino games so yes. Soccer is in fact an online game too. It's one of the games of sports betting. Not only soccer but all sports might also need a coaching because it's hard to determine a winner in sports betting as different factors are involved in here. Other casino games doesn't really need a coaching because they are too simple but poker can be different from them since poker is a skill based game just like sports betting.

There are so many things that one must know in order to master this game. Soccer is a famous game no doubt but don't you know that poker is a also a famous card game?

If we make an analogy between sports betting and football, if it is closely related, it is based on the knowledge that one has in poker and in turn the knowledge that one has in football, what happens is that football is more open On the other hand, with poker on some platforms you usually face the casino and that is something that is difficult to win, usually the casino always has the advantage and that is something that we cannot ignore, but in soccer we cannot, it is against a casino in general but against the performance of a group of players and everything that has to do with a great strategy and that is something very big.

[Betwrong]

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if someone is already skilled in poker gambling for me there is no need to take a course because if they already have skills in poker they can develop it themselves without having to take poker courses.
but i think poker is just a matter of luck and skill is just a prop to getting closer to luck.
i can say this because i have been playing poker since i was 14 years old and until now i feel that my skills are good but when i am not lucky i will definitely lose. so for me the poker skills course is just a theory and the rest is luck.

Yeah, that's how you win in poker, by having more skills than others. Luck doesn't care who you are, it's distributed absolutely randomly among everyone. So, although it wouldn't be right to say that everyone has equal amount of luck, that definitely wouldn't be true, we can still say that no one can count on having more luck than others. Hence, we are all equal in this department. But we can count on having more skills. And if we are more skillful than our opponents, we have an edge over them.