[Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned?

[swogerino]

People who becomes more addictive needs to be given proper care. Gamblers used to turn addictive, but very rare incidents take place for the purpose of money to gamble ending into conviction. Same as de-addiction centre for alcohol, separate centre for gambling needs to be opened. This will help gamblers realise themselves and get cure.

That is correct - government get tax on the money - so why would government ban gambling?
Also the gambling is a huge benefit to the players and the authorities - this is really not possible to ban. Although it is banned in many Islamic states. But even than people find way to play and get benefited.

They would if they can't tax it. That's it.

All those pseudo-righteous governments banning gambling for the sake of "saving society" from problematic gamblers aren't really saving the society from anything. They are just trying to make it look like that so the public supports them from their advocacy. If they can find a way to impose  taxes on these platforms, then they would allow it. Easy as that.

I understand the Islamic states. It's part of their religion and beliefs. But other countries? 

I think other countries are just trying to look good to their citizens in order to get another mandate for the next 4 years to rule the country.By doing so they have huge benefits as we know not a single country in the world is free from corruption even Islamic ones which in theory should be.So they sometime use this excuse of banning gambling in order to save society from a huge evil plague that is gambling.From what I have seen this is working in countries where people don't like gambling and the ruling party which implemented such ban got another vote to run the country for 4 years,including where I live now in Western Balkans.

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In the country where i come from, to be eligible to gamble, one has to be of a certain age of reasoning and taking full responsibility of ones action (18yrs), as gambling involves a lot of risk, patience and skill, which to me i see it as a double edge sword which could make an individual millionare in few minutes and likewise turning millionaire bankrupt in the same few minutes when game doesn't go as planned. And it is a fact that for every game of gamble, the chances of losing is always higher than that of winning, which is why if you could actually win, the reward is always huge. So for me, gambling has done more good same way it has done more bad too, but just that people just have to be willing to take full responsibility of whatever actions that comes while gambling

Yeah, I think that's a reasonable policy.

Gambling should only be available to adults, like alcohol for example.

You can have a good time with gambling and not ruin your life, in the same way that you can enjoy a few beers without becoming an alcoholic.

But you can easily end up in financial ruin by gambling, so you need to be an adult to make responsible choices.

I think it would be silly to ban gambling because people that want to gamble would still do it anyway, but everyone involved would be worse off. Even the government, who wouldn't be able to get all the gambling taxes.

That's right! Children shouldn't be exposed to this kind of environment either because there is a big chance that they'll pick the wrong choices while they are growing up and think that alcohol and gambling are okay. The risk is quite big enough to take that chance, it's fine to teach them while they are young about the things they should do and should not while not exposing them to the said environment until they are older enough to weigh things.

[lionheart78]

That's right! Children shouldn't be exposed to this kind of environment either because there is a big chance that they'll pick the wrong choices while they are growing up and think that alcohol and gambling are okay. The risk is quite big enough to take that chance, it's fine to teach them while they are young about the things they should do and should not while not exposing them to the said environment until they are older enough to weigh things.

That is right children shouldn't be exposed to gambling but gambling is everywhere so it is almost impossible to keep children from being exposed to gambling. if being exposed to gambling is unavoidable for children, parents should guide them. Children should be educated on how to approach gambling.  I think that is way better than not exposing them to the gambling industry.  Awareness is the best tool against the harmful effect of gambling.

[mirakal]

People who becomes more addictive needs to be given proper care. Gamblers used to turn addictive, but very rare incidents take place for the purpose of money to gamble ending into conviction. Same as de-addiction centre for alcohol, separate centre for gambling needs to be opened. This will help gamblers realise themselves and get cure.

That is correct - government get tax on the money - so why would government ban gambling?
Also the gambling is a huge benefit to the players and the authorities - this is really not possible to ban. Although it is banned in many Islamic states. But even than people find way to play and get benefited.

Because the government benefits from gambling, they don't ban gambling.
But for those in Islamic countries, their government forbids gambling and will arrest people involved in gambling.
But unfortunately, people there still play gambling by hiding somewhere and with easy internet access, they can play gambling wherever they want.
This is what makes many people addicted so they cannot control themselves and lose a lot of money.

This is true and gamblers are really lucky to still engage in gambling activities if they know how to get access to VPN but for others that doesn't even know how computer and internets works, they have no choice but to stop their vices but some have found some other means like reaching out to their gambling friends to take some bet for them.
It's just that Islamic countries are banning these kind of activities because it is prohibited in their religion and it opposes their beliefs, and I think alcohol is prohibited too.

[tbterryboy]

I think other countries are just trying to look good to their citizens in order to get another mandate for the next 4 years to rule the country.By doing so they have huge benefits as we know not a single country in the world is free from corruption even Islamic ones which in theory should be.So they sometime use this excuse of banning gambling in order to save society from a huge evil plague that is gambling.From what I have seen this is working in countries where people don't like gambling and the ruling party which implemented such ban got another vote to run the country for 4 years,including where I live now in Western Balkans.

Gambling as evil plague? I think that's too much but I bet those people who claims that, haven't tried gambling yet because they are scared but they only heard in the rumor. If you are living on Islamic countries where gambling is strictly prohibited then many people will avoid gambling automatically even if it's not yet banned.

Those politicians who are saying to ban gambling on these countries won't get too much impressions but maybe they will if they do these on the typical countries where gambling is rampant. In terms of voting. We are advised to vote wisely. If people will do a background check for each candidate, they will know if who are sincere and who are not.

[BitcoinAccepted]

banning gambling could only be done by the government of a country. If we are going to ban gambling, just calculate for convenience how much revenue the government will also miss out on. As a result, the gambling activities are continued elsewhere. If you are going to ban gambling, there are always places or countries where you can still gamble and it is therefore of no use at all. It would be better to have more supervision to see whether a casino plays and pays out fairly, that is much more than setting a general ban.

[BitcoinPanther]

I think other countries are just trying to look good to their citizens in order to get another mandate for the next 4 years to rule the country.By doing so they have huge benefits as we know not a single country in the world is free from corruption even Islamic ones which in theory should be.So they sometime use this excuse of banning gambling in order to save society from a huge evil plague that is gambling.From what I have seen this is working in countries where people don't like gambling and the ruling party which implemented such ban got another vote to run the country for 4 years,including where I live now in Western Balkans.

Gambling as evil plague? I think that's too much but I bet those people who claims that, haven't tried gambling yet because they are scared but they only heard in the rumor. If you are living on Islamic countries where gambling is strictly prohibited then many people will avoid gambling automatically even if it's not yet banned.

I do not think that is the way swogerino stated why gambling is banned in some countries.  I think the government banned gambling to prevent any plague to happen in their country.  The action is to please the creator and shield the country from any harm.  It is more on religious stuff.

Those politicians who are saying to ban gambling on these countries won't get too much impressions but maybe they will if they do these on the typical countries where gambling is rampant. In terms of voting. We are advised to vote wisely. If people will do a background check for each candidate, they will know if who are sincere and who are not.

Well if the country is heavily tied with the religion then maybe his action of banning gambling will have an impact to the leader of these religious group thus he can gather votes from the follower of those groups.

[traderethereum]

People who becomes more addictive needs to be given proper care. Gamblers used to turn addictive, but very rare incidents take place for the purpose of money to gamble ending into conviction. Same as de-addiction centre for alcohol, separate centre for gambling needs to be opened. This will help gamblers realise themselves and get cure.

That is correct - government get tax on the money - so why would government ban gambling?
Also the gambling is a huge benefit to the players and the authorities - this is really not possible to ban. Although it is banned in many Islamic states. But even than people find way to play and get benefited.

Because the government benefits from gambling, they don't ban gambling.
But for those in Islamic countries, their government forbids gambling and will arrest people involved in gambling.
But unfortunately, people there still play gambling by hiding somewhere and with easy internet access, they can play gambling wherever they want.
This is what makes many people addicted so they cannot control themselves and lose a lot of money.

This is true and gamblers are really lucky to still engage in gambling activities if they know how to get access to VPN but for others that doesn't even know how computer and internets works, they have no choice but to stop their vices but some have found some other means like reaching out to their gambling friends to take some bet for them.
It's just that Islamic countries are banning these kind of activities because it is prohibited in their religion and it opposes their beliefs, and I think alcohol is prohibited too.

For now, people can easily have a premium VPN and they don't have to pay a fortune to buy one.
Having a premium VPN has given them access to use many IPs from various countries so that they can access gambling.
Even people who live in Islamic countries that prohibit gambling can access gambling easily so they can play gambling.
And this makes the government have to supervise its citizens more and continue to warn them not to gamble.

[rahmad2nd]

I think other countries are just trying to look good to their citizens in order to get another mandate for the next 4 years to rule the country.By doing so they have huge benefits as we know not a single country in the world is free from corruption even Islamic ones which in theory should be.So they sometime use this excuse of banning gambling in order to save society from a huge evil plague that is gambling.From what I have seen this is working in countries where people don't like gambling and the ruling party which implemented such ban got another vote to run the country for 4 years,including where I live now in Western Balkans.

I think you said something wrong. Each country has different laws and regulations from other countries. every policy in making decisions concerning prohibitions in the law is not taken based on carelessness, let alone just wanting to look good to its citizens and to get a mandate.

Examples of religious countries, Southeast Asia and the Middle East, in some of these countries the applicable law is based on religious references. and certain religious rules prohibit gambling activities, apart from that every prohibition in a country will not necessarily always be obeyed by the people as well as cases of corruption as you said. so what you say is wrong and not true.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't know about you, but whenever it comes to prohibiting things or that a government implements them, I think it unleashes in people a unique sense of irreverence, where they don't pay attention to them, much less respect them, that is, if something is prohibited and that something has to be with money and it is a way that people can acquire money more easily despite the risk, I think no one will abide by them, at least that is how it is in my country, but the rulers of my country are quite "special" so people always look for a way to avoid everything that is prohibited, because despite the fact that they have many shortcomings, the fact that they say no to money they do not accept.

I think other countries are just trying to look good to their citizens in order to get another mandate for the next 4 years to rule the country.By doing so they have huge benefits as we know not a single country in the world is free from corruption even Islamic ones which in theory should be.So they sometime use this excuse of banning gambling in order to save society from a huge evil plague that is gambling.From what I have seen this is working in countries where people don't like gambling and the ruling party which implemented such ban got another vote to run the country for 4 years,including where I live now in Western Balkans.

I think you said something wrong. Each country has different laws and regulations from other countries. every policy in making decisions concerning prohibitions in the law is not taken based on carelessness, let alone just wanting to look good to its citizens and to get a mandate.

Examples of religious countries, Southeast Asia and the Middle East, in some of these countries the applicable law is based on religious references. and certain religious rules prohibit gambling activities, apart from that every prohibition in a country will not necessarily always be obeyed by the people as well as cases of corruption as you said. so what you say is wrong and not true.

With regard to the countries that take religion very seriously, I think that this is a more delicate case, each country and its people can be given due to their religion and that is something that is respected, it is something else, which, It is very difficult to enter into a discussion, because customs, religions and everything that has to do with politics are sensitive issues, and anything that is said can be taken as an offense, since these types of countries are used to not do certain things, and I think the laws are much tougher than in any other country when they go against it.

[nullama]

As far as sport exist , games exist gambling will exist. Their is no sport or games without gambling,  they all work together. Gambling is another dimension of game too that has outcome of win or lose.

Gambling is greater than sports though. You can pretty much gamble on anything that is not deterministic, anything that has any kind of random aspect in it can be used for gambling.

[ethereumhunter]

As far as sport exist , games exist gambling will exist. Their is no sport or games without gambling,  they all work together. Gambling is another dimension of game too that has outcome of win or lose.

Sports betting is a part of gambling but if sports didn't exist, I think gambling would still exist because people could easily find something to use as material for gambling. We know that maybe some of us have gambled using other media besides sports or media commonly used to play gambling. So even though governments can ban it, of course, they can, people will be able to find others to keep gambling.

[Shinpako09]

This is one of the most impossible thing to do. Gambling has been around ever since. It's part of culture/society that cannot stop. Although casino damages someone, casino helps the economy of a country. This is only possible in religious countries/cities or has become a major problem in majority of its citizens which I don't think it will lead to that state. Also, if someone can do illegal activities and so is players, they can always find a way to play gambling.

[X-ray]

As far as sport exist , games exist gambling will exist. Their is no sport or games without gambling,  they all work together. Gambling is another dimension of game too that has outcome of win or lose.

Even if so many gambling games will be banned and people keep doing sport betting from one to the another. Remember that if it's not only P2p transactions that was possible but again gambling can be done if there are also two people. So many people were also doing this thing instead of using gambling platforms as alternative once the country has been restricting the gambling. I have no doubt if gambling must not be banned. It doens't matter how hard the regulators try to create regulation and the fact that if people have thousands of ways to access it

[Fortify]

I read an interesting debate about this topic during the time when I experienced heavy loss in online gambling. I’m trying to seek some reason online to justify my loss and give me acceptance for my loss that time. It didn’t help me but make me confused.    Anyway I will share the points of both side because it is the real life scenario.

PS: I’m in favor for not banning gambling. @Livecasino 

PRO

Conclusion: I got confused because the first time I read this was I’m feeling down that time while my perspective is against gambling but when I read it again when my mind is clear, I realized that the pro side has a valid point too. At that point I noticed that our opinion will varies based on our actual condition because it’s easy to say that it’s just a game if you are not playing and just sitting in the side line but if you are the one who’s experiencing the actual heavy loss, Maybe you will be in favor to the cons side.  

While gambling can definitely be a curse for people who get addicted to it, prohibition has shown time and again that it does not work. The gambling industry definitely needs strong regulation and heavy taxation, but it's better for it to all be done legally in the open, rather than hidden away causing deeper societal problems. Making it illegal just drives it underground and makes the bad sides of it so much worse. All casinos and sportbooks should have a mandatory self exclusion, ideally a worldwide scheme could be setup - allowing people to limit their access to such sites for 6 months or even five years. That would really help to solve the addiction side, but addicts also need help with the psychological traps they find themselves in.

[Viscore]

Gambling is already not allowed in a number of countries, but how do you want to ban that completely and then also control it? I think that's a hopeless job to be honest. As a player, if you live in a country where gambling is prohibited, it is quite easy to play with Crypto and using a VPN on a gambling site that does not ask for a KYC and the ban is quite easy to get around. There are countries such as Spain where online gambling is not allowed but where you have many local shops where you can gamble. Also quite strange of course that it is allowed there and banned online.

I guess no matter how a country's government is very tight on gambling, gamblers will always find ways to gamble, if not land based, then they can go online gambling. So its impossible to ban gambling by all means, although its possible to control it and put regulations, but banning it completely will never be happening totally. In fact, a lot of countries are benefiting are benefiting from the casinos revenues, so instead of banning, it will be much better to prohibit those minors and irresponsible gamblers to stay away from gambling.

[lionheart78]

I read an interesting debate about this topic during the time when I experienced heavy loss in online gambling. I’m trying to seek some reason online to justify my loss and give me acceptance for my loss that time. It didn’t help me but make me confused.    Anyway I will share the points of both side because it is the real life scenario.

PS: I’m in favor for not banning gambling. @Livecasino 

PRO

Conclusion: I got confused because the first time I read this was I’m feeling down that time while my perspective is against gambling but when I read it again when my mind is clear, I realized that the pro side has a valid point too. At that point I noticed that our opinion will varies based on our actual condition because it’s easy to say that it’s just a game if you are not playing and just sitting in the side line but if you are the one who’s experiencing the actual heavy loss, Maybe you will be in favor to the cons side.  

We tend to point fingers whenever we are experiencing bad stuff.  We want to blame others while saving ourselves from that blame.  It is obvious that our mind is clouded during downtime.  And it is obvious in the scenario you'd given,  though I am glad that those cloudy thoughts had cleared and you see the situation clearly.

That makes me arrive at a thought that maybe, those who are rallying to ban gambling had a bad experience with gambling either by themselves or with their relatives.  Instead of blaming their relatives or themselves for their undisciplined actions, they tend to blame it on the gambling industry thus for their action to have gambling banned.  I think this is unfair to those who enjoyed gambling activities while keeping themselves in check.  Why blame the gambling industry for the undisciplined selves and relatives when it is our own fault for losing control during our gambling activity.

My stance, gambling shouldn't be banned because it brings more benefits than banning it.  

[dothebeats]

They would if they can't tax it. That's it.

All those pseudo-righteous governments banning gambling for the sake of "saving society" from problematic gamblers aren't really saving the society from anything. They are just trying to make it look like that so the public supports them from their advocacy. If they can find a way to impose  taxes on these platforms, then they would allow it. Easy as that.

I understand the Islamic states. It's part of their religion and beliefs. But other countries? 

I think other countries are just trying to look good to their citizens in order to get another mandate for the next 4 years to rule the country.By doing so they have huge benefits as we know not a single country in the world is free from corruption even Islamic ones which in theory should be.So they sometime use this excuse of banning gambling in order to save society from a huge evil plague that is gambling.From what I have seen this is working in countries where people don't like gambling and the ruling party which implemented such ban got another vote to run the country for 4 years,including where I live now in Western Balkans.

It is a possibility, just to get the trust of the majority of the public to get you back in the office for the next term. If the majority of the people thinks gambling is okay and does more good than harm, they wouldn't really bother about the extreme cases of gamblers that are wasting their lives away because of gambling. There's nothing to be had in trying to save people if the other majority thinks it's a necessary sacrifice for the betterment of society.

[serjent05]

It is a possibility, just to get the trust of the majority of the public to get you back in the office for the next term. If the majority of the people thinks gambling is okay and does more good than harm, they wouldn't really bother about the extreme cases of gamblers that are wasting their lives away because of gambling. There's nothing to be had in trying to save people if the other majority thinks it's a necessary sacrifice for the betterment of society.

That is how politics is played.  It always goes for what people want, and like, not what people need.  Politics often ride what is the trend so if the trend is about gambling, they weigh which sides have the most votes, if they saw the pro have more benefit in their goal then they will side with pro gambling.  And it isn't for the betterment of society but the betterment of their political party.  So most government officials' decision about the future of gambling depends on how it will impact their political party.  Whether to ban it or not is out of the question, it is whether it is good for the political party or not.

[Fatunad]

It is a possibility, just to get the trust of the majority of the public to get you back in the office for the next term. If the majority of the people thinks gambling is okay and does more good than harm, they wouldn't really bother about the extreme cases of gamblers that are wasting their lives away because of gambling. There's nothing to be had in trying to save people if the other majority thinks it's a necessary sacrifice for the betterment of society.

That is how politics is played.  It always goes for what people want, and like, not what people need.  Politics often ride what is the trend so if the trend is about gambling, they weigh which sides have the most votes, if they saw the pro have more benefit in their goal then they will side with pro gambling.  And it isn't for the betterment of society but the betterment of their political party.  So most government officials' decision about the future of gambling depends on how it will impact their political party.  Whether to ban it or not is out of the question, it is whether it is good for the political party or not.

There's always an opposition when it comes to this manner which means that every decision to be made wouldnt really counter peoples interest or with the masses preference because if they do then it would totally
affect out their popularity or position which it might result into non appealing thing on next election or something related to this.You would definitely be going on what the community prefer.
Although it might end up on not to be ethical but for sure you did make such decision which is really getting along with the majority or huge number on the said community or vicinity.
Gambling whether be banned or not would be entirely depending their own perspective and intents behind which isnt something surprising.