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August 01, 2022, 10:28:49 PM
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I know die-hard gamblers that travel internationally just because it is illegal to gamble in their home country. Banning gambling isn’t a solution. Those people will find a way. Some of them are not even rich. They just live near the border of a gambler-friendly country and visit them when they gather enough money. Of course they always return empty handed because that’s how gambling works.
more restrictions may make someone more curious and always want to do it.
like in my country, government bans or illegalizes gambling, but in fact, many people are still doing that.
at least, the government tries to decrease the gambling addictions because of some negative sides of a gambling itself so far in the country, dealing with crimes,
but, as long as we can control ourself, it seems to be dilemma moreover if we are usual gambling
government policy will help their citizen from addicted in gambling, at countries that not legal alot gambling site banned and hard for gamblers access it.  overall this situation has solution with using vpn to access it. this kind policy was not enough, government must doing some extraordinary action by spread the risk of gambling to everyone especially young people , so it would not break their future.


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August 01, 2022, 10:44:41 PM
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I know die-hard gamblers that travel internationally just because it is illegal to gamble in their home country. Banning gambling isn’t a solution. Those people will find a way. Some of them are not even rich. They just live near the border of a gambler-friendly country and visit them when they gather enough money. Of course they always return empty handed because that’s how gambling works.
more restrictions may make someone more curious and always want to do it.
like in my country, government bans or illegalizes gambling, but in fact, many people are still doing that.
at least, the government tries to decrease the gambling addictions because of some negative sides of a gambling itself so far in the country, dealing with crimes,
but, as long as we can control ourself, it seems to be dilemma moreover if we are usual gambling
government policy will help their citizen from addicted in gambling, at countries that not legal alot gambling site banned and hard for gamblers access it.  overall this situation has solution with using vpn to access it. this kind policy was not enough, government must doing some extraordinary action by spread the risk of gambling to everyone especially young people , so it would not break their future.

But the fact is that governments failed to ban gambling in their respective countries. In the places where gambling is banned, people still gamble using VPN (in case of online Gambling/betting) or they are in contact with bookies to bet (in the offline betting market).

So even if anyone thinks that gambling should be banned, practically it is not possible to do so. There are ways through which people will still be able to gamble.

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August 01, 2022, 10:46:44 PM
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That is why Government should not ban gambling.  Because if they do, they are missing the benefits from it.  Look at the scenario, the government ban gambling removing the taxation benefits from the industry and yet people still go after gambling, dealing with it illegaly.  So this proves that the government failed to restrict gambling in their jurisdiction and what more, since gambling is done secretly, they are unaware on the number of addicted players and surely will fail to implement programs that will help gambling addicts because gambling addicts people will not voluntarily submit themselves on the program due to the fear of possible legal action by the government since gambling is prohibited.
The advantage of gambling controlled by a country is that the age of players and gambling addicts can be controlled easily. my country is banned from gambling but many gambling stands illegally here, it is a big loss because the potential for taxes that should be received by the region is very large. Gambling is a potential business, the government can't fight it.

Yes, This is the common implication for totally banning gambling on the country rather than just moderate it because people will always find there way to do it regardless of legal matter as long as they fulfill there gambling needs. Aside from tax, They are letting there people to commit legal offenses which can be avoided by proper moderation of gambling.

Yes that's why its somehow not good decision by the government to ban gambling if this activities is rampant on their country because this activity will continue even if they not allow their people to do so. Maybe they just regulate it and conduct a proper gambling education since for sure this is more helpful and beneficial to their people and to their economy.

Banning of gambling could only make the situation worse. There will be more underground gambling and illegal activities that will exist. It will be better if they will regulate it and set rules and conditions rather than totally eliminate it. That will also be beneficial to the economy as well as the gamblers in a country. Sometimes too many restrictions could only worsen the situation.

Yes this will be another side of the story since government will just force their citizens to commit crime by continue to gamble on different form knowing internet has variety of choices and ways offered to them. So to avoid such thing to happen much better for government to adopt and regulate gambling because from this they can maximize the resources coming from this as well they can help their citizens to overcome something bad to them if they put a serious program on gambling activities.

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August 01, 2022, 11:19:07 PM
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Yes this will be another side of the story since government will just force their citizens to commit crime by continue to gamble on different form knowing internet has variety of choices and ways offered to them. So to avoid such thing to happen much better for government to adopt and regulate gambling because from this they can maximize the resources coming from this as well they can help their citizens to overcome something bad to them if they put a serious program on gambling activities.

The government won't force any citizens to commit crimes though, each citizen decides by themselves to do it. Also, it's the responsibility of each citizen to keep gambling in control, not the government. Sure, the government can help, but ultimately it's the person's responsibility.

At the end of the day, gambling is a lucrative business for the private sector and the government. There are massive losses which are paid by each gambler individually, but that's their choice to make.

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August 02, 2022, 02:38:05 AM
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Yes and No.

Yes because many people are being affected of gambling negatively. Yes there are some whose lives are changing just because of one lucky bet on different games but let's see how many people are losing because of gambling. Many people are losing in gambling and because of that, it affects their lives in a very bad way. I want gambling to be banned if only the governments will allow it but unfortunately, they don't want it.

On the other hand, I also say no because governments are earning huge money thru taxes to these gambling casinos and that helps stimulates the economy of the country. It helps the government build some infrastructures or help other people with the money. I don't also think that the government will allow these gambling casinos to be banned because they are benefitting on it.

TBH, this question is very subjective depending on the perspective of the person that will answer it. If you will ask a gambler who lose a lot of money in gambling then he/she will say yes for sure but if you will ask just some regular stranger out there who knows the benefits of gambling to a country then he/she will say no.

If I will pick one though, I would say no because of the benefits of it and I'm not gambling too much that's why it doesn't affect my life.

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August 02, 2022, 03:25:17 AM
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It's like I haven't seen anything without gambling in all countries around the world in the generation we have today. But almost all countries have gambling even though it is a forbidden thing in the other country.

Then another thing, even though it is bad in the eyes of others, especially in the eyes of children, if we look at it from another angle, gambling still helps in other ways, especially in the government and economy in our country, because the majority of gamblers who enter gambling are well-known people who are rich and the others here are even politicians or government officials.

Besides that, even if gambling is different in a country, the question is, are they sure that other people will not gamble or make a way to gamble? Surely they still have a way to get their so called gambling addiction like using a VPN. So if it is the case that it is not sure that it can be prevented, just make it legal if it will help our government and economy, as long as we guide minors in this matter.



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August 02, 2022, 02:15:27 PM
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In my opinion, the second "pro" explains everything: addiction, money loss system and so on. If you act like an adult and you are conscious of every threat gambling has, I do not see any reason to cancel gambling. Moreover, gambling is not only about money, it's about fun as well, and we have to remember it.
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Actually many people don't like gambling especially the government. but no one can stop it because gambler always find ways to legalize such activities even in just short period, at least they can gamble.. Lol

I remember here in my country there's a game that suddenly stopped because of such issues what you've mentioned above OP and for some reason..but afterwards they pop up again and become active in a new platform..   Cheesy so even we are all agreed that it should be banned, but the fact that they can always find ways to gamble successfully . I think it's useless to vote.. Lol
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August 02, 2022, 02:26:24 PM
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In my opinion, the second "pro" explains everything: addiction, money loss system and so on. If you act like an adult and you are conscious of every threat gambling has, I do not see any reason to cancel gambling. Moreover, gambling is not only about money, it's about fun as well, and we have to remember it.

Telling that is easier than doing it on the actual game. Those gambler that got addicted in gambling is just a victim of poor bankroll management and its really hard to control your emotions if you losing huge sum of money.

I’m not in favor of banning gambling but I believe strict moderation will be implemented to control damage to a certain person. The best thing to do is to limit the amount of money allowed for a gambler to gamble depends on the financial status of an individual. This way person that has small money can’t bet more that what there finances can’t afford to lose.

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August 03, 2022, 02:27:02 AM
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Actually many people don't like gambling especially the government. but no one can stop it because gambler always find ways to legalize such activities even in just short period, at least they can gamble.. Lol

I remember here in my country there's a game that suddenly stopped because of such issues what you've mentioned above OP and for some reason..but afterwards they pop up again and become active in a new platform..   Cheesy so even we are all agreed that it should be banned, but the fact that they can always find ways to gamble successfully . I think it's useless to vote.. Lol
Maybe the government could easily ban gambling activities but the problem is whether its citizens really want to stop gambling or not.
Maybe most want gambling to be completely banned in their country but some people will still return to gambling.
Maybe this is a dilemma also for the government because, on the one hand, they want to keep their citizens from the problems that can arise from gambling.
While on the other hand, some people are not aware of the problems of gambling.
Maybe if all parties agreed to ban gambling, they could ban gambling, but that would not be easy.

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August 03, 2022, 03:16:50 AM
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Yes this will be another side of the story since government will just force their citizens to commit crime by continue to gamble on different form knowing internet has variety of choices and ways offered to them. So to avoid such thing to happen much better for government to adopt and regulate gambling because from this they can maximize the resources coming from this as well they can help their citizens to overcome something bad to them if they put a serious program on gambling activities.

The government won't force any citizens to commit crimes though, each citizen decides by themselves to do it. Also, it's the responsibility of each citizen to keep gambling in control, not the government. Sure, the government can help, but ultimately it's the person's responsibility.

At the end of the day, gambling is a lucrative business for the private sector and the government. There are massive losses which are paid by each gambler individually, but that's their choice to make.

yes you are right, but I think it is not appropriate if something that is not legal in some countries is categorized as a crime, especially gambling.
whatever happens regardless of a country's gambling ban, there will be people who share tips to be able to access several gambling sites that have been blocked by ISPs, one of which is using a VPN.

everything that is personal is one's own responsibility including being involved in gambling activities, I think the government's prohibition of something has gone through a series of policies that are passed through procedures according to the relevant laws.  despite the prohibition, each citizen decides for himself to do so and is responsible for his will.

maybe in the future gambling will no longer be a debate in some countries that prohibit it by legalizing and implementing very strict regulations instead.

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Conclusion: I got confused because the first time I read this was I’m feeling down that time while my perspective is against gambling but when I read it again when my mind is clear, I realized that the pro side has a valid point too. At that point I noticed that our opinion will varies based on our actual condition because it’s easy to say that it’s just a game if you are not playing and just sitting in the side line but if you are the one who’s experiencing the actual heavy loss, Maybe you will be in favor to the cons side.  


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Its gambler who got addicted and lost all are the most pitiful of all. They are caught up in something that's difficult to get out of.


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Depends on who tells the story. If it's the one who lost his fortune through gambling,  he may really dislike gambling after it. But even the government that bans gambling for thier citizens still supports gambling for tax collection. Those who can come up with a strategy and win a fortune will continue gambling until they can't.

Its gambler who got addicted and lost all are the most pitiful of all. They are caught up in something that's difficult to get out of.

At the end of the day, gambling is a net negative for the individual. Similar to alcohol for example.

There is a tradeoff that can be done if the individual is able to control it, in moderation gambling is not an issue and provides entertainment. Same with alcohol.

There will always be people that cannot control their impulses and gamble everything they own, just like there are alcoholics that drink all their money.

Governments can choose to get the tax benefits from these negative things, and it's the people individually who end up paying the price.

Personally, I prefer gambling to be legal, because I believe in personal responsibility. I don't want a government trying to tell people how they should and shouldn't spend their money.

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In my opinion, the second "pro" explains everything: addiction, money loss system and so on. If you act like an adult and you are conscious of every threat gambling has, I do not see any reason to cancel gambling. Moreover, gambling is not only about money, it's about fun as well, and we have to remember it.

If you're looking to have fun, there are actually a lot of activities you can do to have fun other than gambling that could potentially cost you to lost your money instantly. Though there were a lot of people who enjoys gambling because they're earning the most easiest way.
They don't actually ban gambling because they think people have a choice to be responsible about their gambling habits, but because the government are earning excessive taxes on it. 

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August 03, 2022, 05:49:14 AM
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I know die-hard gamblers that travel internationally just because it is illegal to gamble in their home country. Banning gambling isn’t a solution. Those people will find a way. Some of them are not even rich. They just live near the border of a gambler-friendly country and visit them when they gather enough money. Of course they always return empty handed because that’s how gambling works.
more restrictions may make someone more curious and always want to do it.
like in my country, government bans or illegalizes gambling, but in fact, many people are still doing that.
at least, the government tries to decrease the gambling addictions because of some negative sides of a gambling itself so far in the country, dealing with crimes,
but, as long as we can control ourself, it seems to be dilemma moreover if we are usual gambling
True. The rebellious way of humans, do the thing that is restricted to ours. It came from our ancestors so we cannot just take it away from our way of living. If you prevent it, it may cause chaos. Let it be and just regulate it. That's the only option to have a peaceful solution.
Besides, they are creating a lot of money for different funding because of the high tax they are implementing for sins like gambling, cigarettes, and alcohol. The government could use that to help less fortunate people and gambling addicts.
Why ban something that makes a lot of money? It's better than they do it illegally.

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In my opinion, the second "pro" explains everything: addiction, money loss system and so on. If you act like an adult and you are conscious of every threat gambling has, I do not see any reason to cancel gambling. Moreover, gambling is not only about money, it's about fun as well, and we have to remember it.
But unfortunately, not many people are aware of the threat or risk of gambling instead, they continue playing gambling and don't stop before they run out of money. Maybe this is the reason for the government to ban gambling because instead of playing gambling which is not necessarily able to give them a win, the money is better used for their living needs. It will be best if they can do it because we will prevent addiction, loss of money, etc., that can arise after playing gambling.

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You have a point but that doesn't mean that we should still gamble because of the fact of we are still losing money even if we don't participate in these activities as there are other factors aside from that.
We must still have the correct mindset to only participate in the said activity when we are searching for entertainment or means to ease blow up some steam in our lives, it is still best to know if we can afford to lose some funds or not.

As for the OP's concern about whether gambling should be banned or not, I stand to allow these activities to continue because the government could highly the revenue that this industry could produce.
the economy of a country that legalizes gambling, is much better than the banned countries because the income from taxes and other costs from gambling is able to move the wheels of the economy of a region even though the sacrifices are not small

don't say that gambling is cruel, gambling is bad because the average people who say that are those who can't control themselves and lose big when gambling

Well, that is true but what you said also falls in a situational manner because there are also some countries where casinos and other types of gambling are prohibited but their economy is blooming like Japan, Dubai, and Korea. Legalizing gambling activities will truly help to boost the economy but when that specific country has other things to offer aside from gambling then their decision to ban these activities is reasonable enough because gambling can really destroy people's lives.

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August 03, 2022, 07:52:04 PM
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In my opinion, the second "pro" explains everything: addiction, money loss system and so on. If you act like an adult and you are conscious of every threat gambling has, I do not see any reason to cancel gambling. Moreover, gambling is not only about money, it's about fun as well, and we have to remember it.
But unfortunately, not many people are aware of the threat or risk of gambling instead, they continue playing gambling and don't stop before they run out of money. Maybe this is the reason for the government to ban gambling because instead of playing gambling which is not necessarily able to give them a win, the money is better used for their living needs. It will be best if they can do it because we will prevent addiction, loss of money, etc., that can arise after playing gambling.
The problem with that train of thought is that then the governments will begin to put more and more restrictions to the things you can buy or do and our freedoms will be eroded this way.

If I remember correctly at China there is already a limit on how many hours a person can play online video games, think about it, you cannot even play as much time as you want at China, so what would be next,? A limit to how many hours you can watch TV or use the Internet? So while on the surface some people may think that banning gambling or at least allow the government to set a limit to how much you can gamble I think this is a mistake.

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August 03, 2022, 09:52:57 PM
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I have no problem banning gambling in Islamic countries that don't want to take advantage of it. Nor am I insisting that it should be legalized just because of multiple interests, but it is more likely for me to accept any reason to ban or legalize it.

Indonesia prohibits gambling, but in fact some online casinos get away with it without a clear ban. Some online slots and applications are left without restrictions even though they are in Indonesian jurisdictions. It just depends on the corrupt government, it's really up to them.

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August 03, 2022, 11:10:43 PM
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I have no problem banning gambling in Islamic countries that don't want to take advantage of it. Nor am I insisting that it should be legalized just because of multiple interests, but it is more likely for me to accept any reason to ban or legalize it.

Indonesia prohibits gambling, but in fact some online casinos get away with it without a clear ban. Some online slots and applications are left without restrictions even though they are in Indonesian jurisdictions. It just depends on the corrupt government, it's really up to them.
You could really expect that there would be exemptions whenever we do talk about corruption or something and since we do live on an era where connections and accessibility is easy then getting rid of something

is really hard to be completely blocked 100% since we are already on an era where everything could really be easily accessed through online despite on banning it completely.
I dont really see for it to be needed to be banned as long the government would impose such strict rules and reminders about gambling addiction and related to it.
People wont be really ending up on a disaster if they do just simply play in moderation.

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