[ANN/INFO] CARDSMITHS - CURRENCY SERIES 1 TRADING CARDS

[JUPITYR]

Thanks MJ
I am aware that the MR cards come in both CS and HF, I am just trying to confirm which one is the "real" meta-rare, the one with the odds of 1:124

From the post above by JUPITYR it sounds like the CS version of the MR cards are an error and not found at the same odds, therefore would likely not be worth as much on the secondary market.
I feel bad for anyone who has purchased a crystal sparkle MR thinking it was "meta-rare"

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS.  Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences. 

@MJ:  There should be no Year of the Ox in CS as they were always a separate part of the production. 

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[minerjones]

Thanks MJ
I am aware that the MR cards come in both CS and HF, I am just trying to confirm which one is the "real" meta-rare, the one with the odds of 1:124

From the post above by JUPITYR it sounds like the CS version of the MR cards are an error and not found at the same odds, therefore would likely not be worth as much on the secondary market.
I feel bad for anyone who has purchased a crystal sparkle MR thinking it was "meta-rare"

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS.  Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences. 

@MJ:  There should be no Year of the Ox in CS as they were always a separate part of the production.

That is good to know, thank you

[xSlyy]

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS.  Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences. 

Just to clarify then, are you saying that Holofoil MR cards are actually more rare than a Crystal Sparkle MR?

[Todamont]

Oh man, I bought one of the Meta-Rare crystal sparkle cards. It does indeed say MR1 on the top right, so it is clearly a meta-rare card. It definitely looks crystal sparkly, like the other CS cards that I have... Is it an "error card"? Are there non-sparkly "base" meta-rare cards? Inquiring minds want to know if the CS, holofoil, or refractor MR cards are the most rare!

[CoinageMint]

The 1:124 MR are the ones on the bottom row in MJ's picture with the border.

A small consolation is that adding the MR card art to the CS population means there are fewer of each of those designs to be found in CS.  Yes, it does mean that collectors will need to be on guard and be able to spot the differences.  

Just to clarify then, are you saying that Holofoil MR cards are actually more rare than a Crystal Sparkle MR?

Sound like that to me

Oh man, I bought one of the Meta-Rare crystal sparkle cards. It does indeed say MR1 on the top right, so it is clearly a meta-rare card. It definitely looks crystal sparkly, like the other CS cards that I have... Is it an "error card"? Are there non-sparkly "base" meta-rare cards? Inquiring minds want to know if the CS, holofoil, or refractor MR cards are the most rare!

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406560.msg60698399#msg60698399

[xSlyy]

HEY! For anybody considering using PSA This might be important for others to know as well. I had sent a card to PSA to be graded, and here's what I received a week after PSA received the card. They won't grade it! I'm new to cards, and I never once considered a card could be 'unauthorized', but due to this, it's not recognized by them and won't slab it. Save yourself the time and don't bother with PSA, had I known this, I never would have sent them this card in the first place.



For reference, I found this after digging a little deeper... Obviously PSA eventually recognized Pokemon, maybe we just wait it out, or find another grader who will recognize the Currency Series. This series is clearly very real, to me this seems like a wall around the garden from the OLD to the NEW. Another legacy system flaw, get with the times! Or I may be completely out of left field in my thinking and this is something all new card releases go through.



_{oi! you got a LOICENSE for that card m8!?}

[JUPITYR]

HEY! For anybody considering using PSA This might be important for others to know as well. I had sent a card to PSA to be graded, and here's what I received a week after PSA received the card. They won't grade it! I'm new to cards, and I never once considered a card could be 'unauthorized', but due to this, it's not recognized by them and won't slab it. Save yourself the time and don't bother with PSA, had I known this, I never would have sent them this card in the first place.



For reference, I found this after digging a little deeper... Obviously PSA eventually recognized Pokemon, maybe we just wait it out, or find another grader who will recognize the Currency Series. This series is clearly very real, to me this seems like a wall around the garden from the OLD to the NEW. Another legacy system flaw, get with the times! Or I may be completely out of left field in my thinking and this is something all new card releases go through.



_{oi! you got a LOICENSE for that card m8!?}

PSA is notoriously one of the most difficult 3PG's to "recognize" new sets.  We would expect that they will grade these at some point in the future, but you may have better luck with another 3PG in the meantime.

[Todamont]

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406560.msg60698399#msg60698399

So it seems like the crystal sparkle meta-rare cards can be considered as part of the crystal sparkle set, or they can be considered essentially like a "base" version of the meta-rare cards, while the holofoils are the 1:124 odds cards. The CS MR cards can also be considered "error cards" or part of a unique set, themselves, but there are likely more than 124 of each, meaning a total of somewhere above 11x124 = 1364 total CS MR cards exist, probably at least double or maybe 4 times that number. They are apparently no more rare than any other CS card so the odds of finding one might be expected to be 1:2 (odds of finding a CS card) times 11:73 (number of MR out of total card CS card designs) or 11:146 = around 1:13 pack odds. If we know the total number of cards of all types produced, we could probably back out a good estimation of the number of each card produced...

[Cryptogreatdane]

Regarding the PSA grading and license- I believe what they are saying is that it needs to be established that cardsmiths has a license agreement or arrangement with the artists before they grade. They dont want to grade a card as original and then get sued by an artist saying that they never had permission to use the art. I suspect Cardsmiths would have to reach out to PSA and go through some sort of validation process before PSA would grade. I have no knowledge of this process just speculation.

[CoinageMint]

PSA is notoriously one of the most difficult 3PG's to "recognize" new sets.  We would expect that they will grade these at some point in the future, but you may have better luck with another 3PG in the meantime.

@JUPITYR, I thought you were working with Mike Baker Authenticated to have these graded by PSA, what was the outcome there?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406560.msg60702395#msg60702395

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406560.msg60698399#msg60698399

So it seems like the crystal sparkle meta-rare cards can be considered as part of the crystal sparkle set, or they can be considered essentially like a "base" version of the meta-rare cards, while the holofoils are the 1:124 odds cards. The CS MR cards can also be considered "error cards" or part of a unique set, themselves, but there are likely more than 124 of each, meaning a total of somewhere above 11x124 = 1364 total CS MR cards exist, probably at least double or maybe 4 times that number. They are apparently no more rare than any other CS card so the odds of finding one might be expected to be 1:2 (odds of finding a CS card) times 11:73 (number of MR out of total card CS card designs) or 11:146 = around 1:13 pack odds. If we know the total number of cards of all types produced, we could probably back out a good estimation of the number of each card produced...

Referring to the crystal sparkle MR as essentially "base" MR cards or part of the CS set is a good idea, sounds ok to me. Unfortunately not all of the MR cards come in crystal sparkle, so it would be impossible to make a CS set with all MR cards included.
They could also be considered "error cards" in a way, but since there is so many i don't think that would add any value.

The 1:124 odds relates to per pack odds, it doesn't mean there are only 124 of each card.

[minerjones]

PSA is notoriously one of the most difficult 3PG's to "recognize" new sets.  We would expect that they will grade these at some point in the future, but you may have better luck with another 3PG in the meantime.

@JUPITYR, I thought you were working with Mike Baker Authenticated to have these graded by PSA, what was the outcome there?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406560.msg60702395#msg60702395

My understanding is that the MR cards come in 3 different versions:
1. Crystal Sparkle (borderless) -> These seem to be the most common MR cards found. Not technically a Meta-Rare "Refractor" though
2. Holofoil (HF) -> The true Meta-Rare Refractor cards, high gloss, thick laminated cards. The odds of pulling one is 1:124 or higher
3. Gemstone - (numbered cards) -> Very rare

MJ made a great post here with pics that show all versions of the MR cards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406560.msg60698399#msg60698399

So it seems like the crystal sparkle meta-rare cards can be considered as part of the crystal sparkle set, or they can be considered essentially like a "base" version of the meta-rare cards, while the holofoils are the 1:124 odds cards. The CS MR cards can also be considered "error cards" or part of a unique set, themselves, but there are likely more than 124 of each, meaning a total of somewhere above 11x124 = 1364 total CS MR cards exist, probably at least double or maybe 4 times that number. They are apparently no more rare than any other CS card so the odds of finding one might be expected to be 1:2 (odds of finding a CS card) times 11:73 (number of MR out of total card CS card designs) or 11:146 = around 1:13 pack odds. If we know the total number of cards of all types produced, we could probably back out a good estimation of the number of each card produced...

Referring to the crystal sparkle MR as essentially "base" MR cards or part of the CS set is a good idea, sounds ok to me. Unfortunately not all of the MR cards come in crystal sparkle, so it would be impossible to make a CS set with all MR cards included.
They could also be considered "error cards" in a way, but since there is so many i don't think that would add any value.

The 1:124 odds relates to per pack odds, it doesn't mean there are only 124 of each card.

Yeah, just the MR8 card does not come in Crystal Sparkle
The MR Holofoils definitely seem to be harder to come by... have only seen half of them.

MR Crystal Sparkle:

[CoinageMint]

Happy to accept pics of any Refractor or MR cards for the card pics archive

Here is an MR4 Amethyst pic to add to your collection, or the card if you wish to buy it (not mine, just found on eBay)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265884499748?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=svpNBzQuTYi&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=j2jweie8qvs&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[montreal1]

has anyone had a lucky card with a lot of crypto value? Tempted to order some. thank you

[CoinageMint]

has anyone had a lucky card with a lot of crypto value? Tempted to order some. thank you

Anyone who has purchased a case would have received a redemption card, but not sure if anyone has pulled a 1 BTC card yet.
Honestly I would rather not know until the product is sold out

[Cryptogreatdane]

If anyone interested in the bank card blue saphire 1/5 price $299. He sent me an offer for $175. So if you offer him that hell take it. If not im snatching it next week.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265918661181?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D243323%26meid%3D4b30ad1f25214bf09656646f47057c28%26pid%3D101526%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D265918661181%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p2380057.c101526.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Aefb4c7c3-623e-11ed-947f-62a8258418af%7Cparentrq%3A6a018a531840a45b09be742dfffcee12%7Ciid%3A1

[DirtyBirdE]

If anyone interested in the bank card blue saphire 1/5 price $299. He sent me an offer for $175. So if you offer him that hell take it. If not im snatching it next week.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265918661181?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D243323%26meid%3D4b30ad1f25214bf09656646f47057c28%26pid%3D101526%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D265918661181%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p2380057.c101526.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Aefb4c7c3-623e-11ed-947f-62a8258418af%7Cparentrq%3A6a018a531840a45b09be742dfffcee12%7Ciid%3A1

Looks like an error card too, doesn’t have the silver cardsmiths “c” stamp like the rest do

[Cryptogreatdane]

If anyone interested in the bank card blue saphire 1/5 price $299. He sent me an offer for $175. So if you offer him that hell take it. If not im snatching it next week.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265918661181?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D243323%26meid%3D4b30ad1f25214bf09656646f47057c28%26pid%3D101526%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D265918661181%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p2380057.c101526.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Aefb4c7c3-623e-11ed-947f-62a8258418af%7Cparentrq%3A6a018a531840a45b09be742dfffcee12%7Ciid%3A1

Looks like an error card too, doesn’t have the silver cardsmiths “c” stamp like the rest do

  Whoa good catch, didnt notice. Just pulled all my refractors and all but one had the c on the back. My amethyst lambo dosent have the c either..interesting

[CoinageMint]

If anyone interested in the bank card blue saphire 1/5 price $299. He sent me an offer for $175. So if you offer him that hell take it. If not im snatching it next week.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265918661181?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D243323%26meid%3D4b30ad1f25214bf09656646f47057c28%26pid%3D101526%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D265918661181%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2Mobile&_trksid=p2380057.c101526.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Aefb4c7c3-623e-11ed-947f-62a8258418af%7Cparentrq%3A6a018a531840a45b09be742dfffcee12%7Ciid%3A1

Looks like an error card too, doesn’t have the silver cardsmiths “c” stamp like the rest do

  Whoa good catch, didnt notice. Just pulled all my refractors and all but one had the c on the back. My amethyst lambo dosent have the c either..interesting

There have been a few cards found with missing or even double-stamped "C" logo

I think i would prefer to have the MR4 Amethyst listed above i found on eBay for $150, might get cheaper if you offer, i don't know the seller

[montreal1]

Good news....  1st case was picked up last evening.
Boxes/packs will begin shipping Monday.
PMs will be sent today for anyone who posted interest.


Offering unboxing/pack opening video service for anyone who wants to trade

@JUPITYR:

Is there an official checklist?

Are the Holofoil cards the shiny ones with a border and the Crystal Sparkle are the ones without a border?

For the Gemstone refractor cards, does every card come in every ratio or is this spread over the entire run of cards?

And for the Meta Rare and Cold Foil cards, are there only 1 version of them or do they also come in Holofoil/Crystal Sparkle/Gemstone refractor versions?


EDIT:
made a rough, printable checklist if anyone wants!

The checklist is great! thank you for sharing

[Todamont]

Image is good but it needs updating now that we know there are CS MR cards... I will be using this to track my collection later this week, so thanks!