My View on Brand-Newbies to Legendary Members in the Forum

[Agbe]

I view this forum as an International University (Bitcointalk). Whereby Brand-newbies in  the forum just got admission into the university. They are observing the environment, asking questions on offline (their guiders), they read sign post (threads) at all corner (all board) to avoid un-necessary punishments and attacks in the campus (forum). Yet they still have problem in the forum.



Newbies, they are in year 1 and have started taking lectures from their first post. That is they have started writing. They ask questions.




 Jr. Members, they are in year 2 and continue taking lectures from the classroom (bitcointalk forum).


Members Rank, they are in year 3. Learning becomes very serious at this level because they have gotten small experience. They are focus.



Full Members, they are in 400 level. Learning continues with more seriousness.


 
Sr. Members, they are in 500 level (final year) in social sciences. And bitcointalk can be classified as a social science, because bitcointalk uses scientific tools to analyse the individual uses of bitcoin, therefore, as a Sr. Member, they write projects and making comments. This is where unserious students are WAF (Weak Academic Failure). WAF means in this forum ban, Although, WAF can be used at all level. If anyone misbehave.


Hero Members, they are the graduating (convocation) students. They are very happy because they must be employed in the labour market. They make comments, correct, counsel, and guide users


Legendary Members, they are the Alumni/Lecturers/Profs. As the name implies. you already know who they are. In the structure of bitcointalk, they are the highest body in the forum as for now. They educate, and answer questions with ease. Because they passed through all the stages mentioned above. Their functions in the forum are numerous.




Year 1 and 2 should read and learn from their senior colleagues

[_act_]

This should be on Meta, why beginners and help?

You included professor, but how about PHD and Masters? I mean in the ranking arrangement.

Did you know that learning on this forum can be different? That is why you will see senior member posting good than even some hero and legendary.

Did you know that a legendary or users of higher rank can create alt account? Using it in a way people will even know that it is an alt.

But I do not think this post is worth it at all as it adds no usefulness. Sorry for saying that.

[Welsh]

Interesting perspective .

Year 1 and 2 should read and learn from their senior colleagues

Although, the above isn't necessarily true. There's plenty of examples of newer users being more knowledgeable than their seniors. That's almost true in every walk of life. Length of time, doesn't equal knowledge. It does, have a correlation, but it definitely isn't something to follow completely. There's plenty of users here that are probably classed as senior by most users, yet routinely get things wrong.

Throw me into a technical discussion about Bitcoin's intrinsics, and you'll find many younger users more knowledgable in areas than myself. We all have different strengths, and weaknesses, and knowledge about Bitcoin is no different. Some will excel, and some won't.

[jackg]

Did you know that learning on this forum can be different? That is why you will see senior member posting good than even some hero and legendary.

I did think this before but people could go to university and be well versed in their subject before they start (there's no quick jump to masters course if people want academic accolades and universities can act as an easy way to gain contacts with people in their field).

[Shamm]

Your view may be true but the first year or let's say newbie year is not just what you expected because not all newbies are laterally newbies some newbies here in the forum are more knowledgeable than senior members here.  Or what  _act_ says that there's a chance that a Legendary or even hero member ranks can create alt account so we can not say that all newbies we encountered is laterally new in crypto.

[Poker Player]

Despite the workmanship of your post and the beauty of the images, I don't quite believe the analogy. For example, for me the difference between Hero and Legendary is... practically none. I don't see the Social Sciences of Mr. members either, because if they have a lot of technical knowledge as n0nce they would be studying computer sciences.

I think you are in an academic environment and this post is a projection of what you usually see.

[Davidvictorson]

Just as we view the world differently and based on our experiences so it is with the forum. I do not view the forum as an educational institution but rather as a parliamentary system. Don't ask me explain The beauty about the forum is that even a so-called "brand-new" member without a background in computer science or IT can reach the rank of a Hero member if the individual is consistent in learning, improving and sharing valuable knowledge with members of the forum.

[Maus0728]

Anyone who joined an SMF forum for the first time probably felt the same way. Higher rankings would appear to be far more superior than others to someone who has no knowledge of how the forum works, what bitcoin actually is, or what not.

But given that you'll never know who the heck is behind that account, it should only be treated with a grain of salt. Besides, there are forums without a merit system where you can grow your account through spamming just like old era bitcointalk members.

[hugeblack]

I don't know, but is this topic to beg for merits or are people taking the forum seriously?
When I joined the forum, I didn't know about the signature campaigns until several months later, and the discovery of the forum was not that serious as there are no restrictions as some beginners try to do or a school has to do this to get a prize.
It's a discussion forum, and there are about 20 simple rules. Try to read them and stick to them and you'll find that all is well.

In terms of discussions: there is no difference between have a newbie account and a legendary, they all have the most advantages, so try to learn.

[aysg76]

See although you intend to create something good and I appreciate that but this section is for some good topics to help newbies and we all know that as we learn we advance on the forum and bitcointalk is best place to have knowledge about it and free discussion forum where you have no learning boundaries and can have the latest knowledge if you intend to do so.

There was recently a similar illustration thread on Meta section with different reactions but I think this is not necessary and should be categorised in fun manner where you can share such illustration.

As we see some newbies are just new to the forum but have way more knowledge then any legendary on the forum as you can't make judgements from the rank but yes merits is representative of your knowledge here.You can see some legendary members with zero earned merits and some newbies with more merits so we can say there is difference in this approach.

But try to make more educational and helpful threads for members sharing knowledge with them and keep it simple.

[Cookdata]

I just have to smile at the images on your content, the headline is eye-catching but the storyline doesn't blend and align with Bitcointalk as you have written. It is just a regular forum like every other and dedicated purposely for Bitcoin discussion, Altcoins and also other discussions related to cryptocurrency.
A newbie account doesn't mean the person behind is a novice, it could be a legendary member Alt account, J.Member doesn't have to read continuously to rank up, a single post can get merits and with a few activity can promote him to the next rank and also for the remaining ranks like Sr.Member and Hero Member. The legendary account can also get sold to a new person that is new to the forum and so on. There are many uncertain things that can happen anonymously and remain hidden from the public except when they observe some changes like password and Email and changes in writing.

NB: 500Level is not a default level system for all university, Nigerian Federal University of technology mostly adopt 5 years course but this is not the same for other universities and colleges.

[Iroh]

Nice view you’ve got. But your views are flat out wrong as this is not like an international university and there are no lecturers or professors. Your college classification with colorful pictures of smiling studious students are wrong cause a profile having a legendary tag doesn’t make the user all smart and all knowing. A newbie can also be as knowledgeable as any legendary member.

[Lucius]

Legendary Members, they are the Alumni/Lecturers/Profs. As the name implies. you already know who they are. In the structure of bitcointalk, they are the highest body in the forum as for now. They educate, and answer questions with ease. Because they passed through all the stages mentioned above. Their functions in the forum are numerous.

What about those Legendary members who never got single merit, and who reached their rank by classic shitposting before there was a merit system? Rank has never been nor will it be a relevant measure of how important someone is on the forum, regardless of the fact that many beginners (but also you who are a little more experienced) look at these things from a different perspective.

If we are going to go into technical details, there are higher bodies than Legendary in the sense that we have admins, global moderators, moderators, and other staff.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Welcome to bitcointalk.org, the Bitcoin Forum! You can access this welcome message from the "help" link in the top menu bar at any time.

As a member of the forum, you are surrounded by legends; phenomenal successes and catastrophic failures. The forum was created by Satoshi Nakamoto and saw the first exchange, the first altcoin, and the first ICO, but also catastrophic software flaws, massive thefts, and incredible scams. You too have an opportunity to become part of the forum's history: whether and in what way you do so is up to you.

Forum is mixture for brand new, newbies to Hero and Legendary members. There is no difference between brand new and newbie members. Only one post and one activity point are not enough to make difference between them.

Junior member is not much different too but from Member (with 10 merit required), difference will become clearer. From Full member and Senior member, difference increases bigger. Sometimes not much difference between Senior Member and Hero member. I only think difference is clear between Senior Member and Legendary member.

If this topic receives a lot of merit, we will see more members create same ones in future.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I think you are in an academic environment and this post is a projection of what you usually see.

I thought about that, too, as this isn't the first similar thread the OP has created.

Let it be so. If the OP presents the forum this way, it's normal, but unfortunately, not all newcomers come here to learn, as you put it, to study cryptocurrencies correctly.

Some members of the forum see him as a "money cow" that can be milked.

What about farmer accounts, cheaters, and people who come to the forum with not entirely pure intentions?

Unfortunately, your vision of the forum is somewhat utopian, but it is not. Here, in addition to the picture you beautifully described, there is deceit and greed, for which in your real academy, people would simply be kicked out, which is not happening here.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This indeed, is a good perspective or should I say, comparism of Bitcointalk forum to an educational institution.
But I must say that your analogy based on ranks is wrong, like Welsh said, newbies, and some others that are in junior levels aren't necessarily learning from those with higher ranks, I've seen several members in junior level make really educative posts, and even sometimes, correct tht seniors ones when they make a mistake or assume something wrongly.
So to simply put it, ranks on the forum does not represent how much a member knows, ranks are just there as a means of motivating users to keep learning.

[KingsDen]

I read a thread about professional newbies. In your fantasy university there's no place for newbies with legendary knowledge. How about newbies with very high knowledge and activity but lack merits to rank up, where will you place them?

On a normal view, your idea of the forum is not bad but in practice it's far from what you have just said. In your real university, someone in level 100 doesn't pay to reach level 500. But here in bitcointalk, a newbie could get a legendary account. So most of the things doesn't have coloration.

[Gozie51]

This post is just like the typical analogy of what the ranks mean like the school environment used as the analysis because I understand and believe that op also know it that it doesn't really represent the reality in the forum. Sure as we know there are alt accounts as newbie, Jr member, member etc, are they still in the class of the analogy? No they are not because they have the requisite above that level you see them.

I think before now ranks were basically and by implication showing duration in the forum but as time went , the merit system has changed the dynamics of ranks. You can now place duration of an account only by activities and not experience, knowledge or ranks.

[Agbe]

I don't know, but is this topic to beg for merits or are people taking the forum seriously?
When I joined the forum, I didn't know about the signature campaigns until several months later, and the discovery of the forum was not that serious as there are no restrictions as some beginners try to do or a school has to do this to get a prize.
It's a discussion forum, and there are about 20 simple rules. Try to read them and stick to them and you'll find that all is well.

In terms of discussions: there is no difference between have a newbie account and a legendary, they all have the most advantages, so try to learn.

Just like that? Is this the way you accused people, or the topic or the content is confusing? Mate I believe you became a legendary member based on your hardworking and you deserved (merited) to be. You did not jump or buy your legendary membership level. And I also believe that you passed through all the stage mentioned by the OP. That is you have small knowledge at least for all the stages even. Let me give you an illustration for more understanding. If a student graduate from a university with a first class honored degree and a year one student asked him a question from his field, and the graduate said he doesn't know, what do you think the junior student will feel? Although they are some junior students that are doing second degree in the same University with different course. Therefore, they might have knowledge more than the graduate.

Lastly: I believe you are a graduate of University. Not really sure, but probability formula is used.  When you were in school. Lecturers did not make you laugh in any day? And also be serious about his Teaching as well? Why the accusation of merit begging? A good teacher makes his students to laugh, tell them fictional stories at some times to make the class lively and also to remove boring from the students. Any how a teacher is knowledgeable, there are time his class are bore, so good teacher would detect very fast and give them story to mup up. The OP analogy might not be true because he or she was not around when the merit system has not been introduced, so he didn't know what was happening by then but the thread might also be correct from the structural analysis.

The thread is even based on the structural analysis. Not on Personality. Personally I know that they are some legendary newbies in the forum. I have been making comments on that issue time without number, there are some threads a newbie would create that is very good. I am not begging for merit please.

[Oluwa-btc]

I don't know, but is this topic to beg for merits or are people taking the forum seriously?
When I joined the forum, I didn't know about the signature campaigns until several months later, and the discovery of the forum was not that serious as there are no restrictions as some beginners try to do or a school has to do this to get a prize.
It's a discussion forum, and there are about 20 simple rules. Try to read them and stick to them and you'll find that all is well.

In terms of discussions: there is no difference between have a newbie account and a legendary, they all have the most advantages, so try to learn.

Just like that? Is this the way you accused people, or the topic or the content is confusing? Mate I believe you became a legendary member based on your hardworking and you deserved (merited) to be. You did not jump or buy your legendary membership level. And I also believe that you passed through all the stage mentioned by the OP. That is you have small knowledge at least for all the stages even. Let me give you an illustration for more understanding. If a student graduate from a university with a first class honored degree and a year one student asked him a question from his field, and the graduate said he doesn't know, what do you think the junior student will feel? Although they are some junior students that are doing second degree in the same University with different course. Therefore, they might have knowledge more than the graduate.

Lastly: I believe you are a graduate of University. Not really sure, but probability formula is used.  When you were in school. Lecturers did not make you laugh in any day? And also be serious about his Teaching as well? Why the accusation of merit begging? A good teacher makes his students to laugh, tell them fictional stories at some times to make the class lively and also to remove boring from the students. Any how a teacher is knowledgeable, there are time his class are bore, so good teacher would detect very fast and give them story to mup up. The OP analogy might not be true because he or she was not around when the merit system has not been introduced, so he didn't know what was happening by then but the thread might also be correct from the structural analysis.

The thread is even based on the structural analysis. Not on Personality. Personally I know that they are some legendary newbies in the forum. I have been making comments on that issue time without number, there are some threads a newbie would create that is very good. I am not begging for merit please.

No need for the long epistle writings Mate. Take the positive criticisms and not the negative ones. Peace out!