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July 31, 2022, 06:53:53 AM
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Gambling has benefits for gamblers who are playing in moderation. Its a stress reliever for me when im tired due to my work, my past time when I want to feel some excitement. Im playing for fun thus the money I spend everytime I gamble is not much. Because its different to play an ordinary game without money involve compared if you gamble since there's also a chance to earn.

Those gamblers who dont have control are the ones suffering of the cons of gambling. One of the reason why many people are seeing gambling as bad because of the effect that it can cause to gamblers who dont have self-control.


The benefits come when a gambler is not after winning and he is just doing it as a fun entertainment activity after his work activities.

gamblers who lack control usually always want to get high wins and as a result he loses a lot of money, self-control issues are the most crucial for anyone who enjoys gambling activities including myself.

Gambling activities will never be separated from negative connotations in social life, so I think this part depends on one's perspective on gambling. as you said to prevent the adverse effects from occurring, one must be able to limit and not do excessive activities.

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July 31, 2022, 06:29:23 PM
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Gambling has benefits for gamblers who are playing in moderation. Its a stress reliever for me when im tired due to my work, my past time when I want to feel some excitement. Im playing for fun thus the money I spend everytime I gamble is not much. Because its different to play an ordinary game without money involve compared if you gamble since there's also a chance to earn.

Those gamblers who dont have control are the ones suffering of the cons of gambling. One of the reason why many people are seeing gambling as bad because of the effect that it can cause to gamblers who dont have self-control.


The benefits come when a gambler is not after winning and he is just doing it as a fun entertainment activity after his work activities.

gamblers who lack control usually always want to get high wins and as a result he loses a lot of money, self-control issues are the most crucial for anyone who enjoys gambling activities including myself.

Gambling activities will never be separated from negative connotations in social life, so I think this part depends on one's perspective on gambling. as you said to prevent the adverse effects from occurring, one must be able to limit and not do excessive activities.
It is all right, If everyone uses gambling in this sense and emphasizing it but if it is happen the opposite then it will have a negative impact everywhere. If one thinks of gambling only as a center of pleasure, he can gain pleasure. Otherwise, if he takes it as a profession, he will be degraded. Again if you call gambling as stress reduction then it is correct but whenever you lose the match but the opposite happens. Skills can be developed here but it is not very useful. As we know luck is above all in gambling. There are many who can do good research but they cannot win. It gives you happiness only when you get a big win from here but the opposite happens when you lose. Everyone has a chance to win big. For which people are always gambling.

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July 31, 2022, 08:21:52 PM
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Otherwise, if he takes it as a profession, he will be degraded.

In what sense a person can be degraded if he took gambling as a profession? Isn't this too judgemental?

Again if you call gambling as stress reduction then it is correct but whenever you lose the match but the opposite happens.

Well if a person plays gambling without the aim of reaping winnings, he wouldn't be stressed if he loses in his gambling engagement.  Besides, it is the purpose why people engaged in gambling that dictated whether a person will relieve stress or gain more.


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July 31, 2022, 08:35:21 PM
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Most of the gamblers More security should be provided as they are at least beyond the reach of the best players. Because they know I have to play according to their own interests. The biggest sign of gambling is that you need to have perspective that will help you become a winner.That's why you need to build experience on it which helps you become a winner later on.
I think that being the best will not only means that they can gamble huge because they have a big capital but its mainly because of their skill. If you are a newbie in gambling you should realize it and you should not copy them rather you should stick on your capacity first. Time will come that you can build more experience and skill in the game. That's the time to say that you are now a good player or you are now in the level of those best players. If the players interest is only to have fun then they don't really care about building their skill. Also if fun is your main perspective or objective then you won't also chase those wins or big wins.

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July 31, 2022, 08:56:30 PM
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Gambling makes you happy unless if you always winning in it , but if you're not a pro and your just basing your luck on daily basis then i don't think you will be happy and it will become your stress reliever after all. Lol many people are frustrated in gambling and that's the truth, wherein these perspective is clearly for those who have good experienced in gambling only not the majority of all people who use to gamble.
That is why a gambler should know how to set limits for himself as he is not bound to win all the time. Mostly, gamblers fall into depression because they always anticipate their losses, regardless of how far their funds can go. If they can gamble with discipline, whether they are pros or not, gambling would still be profitable in the end.

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Studies by the Behavior analysis and therapy program at Southern Illinois University have shown that gambling can positively improve your mood and cause happiness. The results of the study showed that people who gambled as a hobby were happier overall than people who did not.

The study showed that the level of happiness in individuals rose while they were engaged in gambling activities. When compared with those who used the television as a source of entertainment, the individuals who gambled were happier. Engaging in gambling as a hobby is a surefire way to improve your life and happiness.
I may agree with some parts of those studies but I would like to comment on that section which states that gambling makes us happier, or that people whose hobby is gambling are happier than others.
In fact, I do not find that the arguments on which this study relied can give acceptable results since the people who were tested may have other sources of happiness other than practicing this dangerous hobby that makes the person stand on the brink of addiction. Just knowing you're on a science test, that in itself can be a source of happiness because I don't think these people have always been part of science tests.
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July 31, 2022, 10:10:11 PM
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Gambling makes you happy unless if you always winning in it , but if you're not a pro and your just basing your luck on daily basis then i don't think you will be happy and it will become your stress reliever after all. Lol many people are frustrated in gambling and that's the truth, wherein these perspective is clearly for those who have good experienced in gambling only not the majority of all people who use to gamble.
That is why a gambler should know how to set limits for himself as he is not bound to win all the time. Mostly, gamblers fall into depression because they always anticipate their losses, regardless of how far their funds can go. If they can gamble with discipline, whether they are pros or not, gambling would still be profitable in the end.
This should be our main priority, to have a self discipline every time we gamble and never forget to play always on a budget because if you left uncontrol and didn't know where to stop, that is the start of your greediness and might result into a bad situation. Gambling in moderation gives a best time for you to think, and have a stress free gambling experience, this only means to me that you are not into profit, and you just gamble not to chase any wins or any losses.
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July 31, 2022, 10:20:52 PM
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If gambling is going to be more positive or negative in a gambler's life, it will depend on his personal characteristics and choices as individual.

We know there are problem gamblers, who without any doubts can't make the pros overcome the cons, therefore it's an unhealthy activity for them, while other gamblers integrate gambling to their lives without any financial prejudices, so gambling is practiced in a healthy manner by them.

All the points presented by OP make sense and can be taken into consideration the same way the opposite is true. The point is if you see the glass half full or half empty and what of those glasses you are able to adopt for your life.

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July 31, 2022, 11:16:11 PM
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This should be our main priority, to have a self discipline every time we gamble

That is really a must-have characteristic in gambling. There are gamblers who are not even moderate in doing gambling but look at them, they are still in their right mind and knows what they are doing. If they can do it, others should be able to do it as well.

But the reality is, that those who are even doing moderate gambling are the ones who are not ended up being disciplined and responsible.

Therefore, we can conclude that even a gambler plays moderately or not, if they won't force themselves to become responsible, then good luck to them.
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July 31, 2022, 11:36:08 PM
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This should be our main priority, to have a self discipline every time we gamble

That is really a must-have characteristic in gambling. There are gamblers who are not even moderate in doing gambling but look at them, they are still in their right mind and knows what they are doing. If they can do it, others should be able to do it as well.

But the reality is, that those who are even doing moderate gambling are the ones who are not ended up being disciplined and responsible.

Therefore, we can conclude that even a gambler plays moderately or not, if they won't force themselves to become responsible, then good luck to them.
Self discipline is a must. Under this falls the self control, emotional control and all other features that doesn't let you go beyond your ability. According to me, gambling industry is big. The house always have its edge. Here whether you make a win/loss there'll be profit for the house. If we realise it we'll stop at the right time even without any form of moderation. Being responsible is to know your limits and spend.

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July 31, 2022, 11:46:35 PM
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gamblers who lack control usually always want to get high wins and as a result he loses a lot of money, self-control issues are the most crucial for anyone who enjoys gambling activities including myself.

When these gamblers won, that fuels their excitement to bet more. It's a great winning experience for them.

Therefore, even if they win or lose, they will still end up not controlling themselves.

Those who win big already are even most prone to ending up worst since they know already the feeling of having a big win and they will continue to pursue it no matter what. Unlike those gamblers who will always lose that budget are limited.
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Gambling has benefits for gamblers who are playing in moderation. Its a stress reliever for me when im tired due to my work, my past time when I want to feel some excitement. Im playing for fun thus the money I spend everytime I gamble is not much. Because its different to play an ordinary game without money involve compared if you gamble since there's also a chance to earn.

Those gamblers who dont have control are the ones suffering of the cons of gambling. One of the reason why many people are seeing gambling as bad because of the effect that it can cause to gamblers who dont have self-control.
Other than gambling addiction which has been a long time trouble for individuals who lost control, the money involved is one other concern why gambling has a bad name. People often think that gambling is just a waste money since most gamblers lost on most of their games and activities.

It's a good thing if you will be able to control yourself as you won't get broke and will have financial trouble. But both gambler who has self control and addicted can experience the same excitement and joy when playing and I think addicted gamblers enjoys most when they are winning.

Yeah, I think at the end of the day all that matters is to avoid financial ruin.

As long as the gambler plays with a small amount it's all under control. The moment the gambler starts putting a considerable amount of money is when problem starts appearing, because it will inevitably lose all the money in the long term.
I think a wish person who keeps all the point in consideration are the smartest of all. I have learnt a valuable lesson in life.
That is you are your only true firend - so dont depend on anyone and earn as much as you can and do not try to eat anyone's money.

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gamblers who lack control usually always want to get high wins and as a result he loses a lot of money, self-control issues are the most crucial for anyone who enjoys gambling activities including myself.

When these gamblers won, that fuels their excitement to bet more. It's a great winning experience for them.

Therefore, even if they win or lose, they will still end up not controlling themselves.

Those who win big already are even most prone to ending up worst since they know already the feeling of having a big win and they will continue to pursue it no matter what. Unlike those gamblers who will always lose that budget are limited.
Bigger wins mean bigger stakes. After winning by a big number the other possibility to happen is you won't go small anymore.
It's like a virus where you will pursue to win back what is lost or if you are successful in doing so you have a new bottom bet. If you won at 10 you won't go back to 1, win or lose.
It requires a ton of discipline for your mindset to be normal again and not be consumed by greed.
IMO, it had always been my stress reliever and gambling fills me with excitement. I always try to bet on different numbers to avoid that type of greed.

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August 01, 2022, 05:14:30 AM
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In fact, gamblers who advise gamblers are not necessarily the same as those who advise, and it is a fact and realize that the house always wins and the wins we get are not worth the losses they suffer.
make gambling for fun, relieve stress and also fill spare time by preparing sufficient funds, and stopping when you win is the best way and stop when you lose when the funds that have been prepared run out. Enjoy the game and play quietly.
And this way will always get lucky and stop with a firm attitude and to get full luck. It's not easy, but it's the process that makes us smart gamblers.
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gamblers who lack control usually always want to get high wins and as a result he loses a lot of money, self-control issues are the most crucial for anyone who enjoys gambling activities including myself.

When these gamblers won, that fuels their excitement to bet more. It's a great winning experience for them.

Therefore, even if they win or lose, they will still end up not controlling themselves.

is this your experience? if yes, you should learn and try to control yourself by starting from the intention.

Those who win big already are even most prone to ending up worst since they know already the feeling of having a big win and they will continue to pursue it no matter what. Unlike those gamblers who will always lose that budget are limited.

well we both seem to have had the same experience, what you say I think is a personal experience.  
well with what you said, I think someone has gone through many experiences and events in gambling activities regardless of winning or losing.

At the very least, a gambler should ask himself, why is he gambling? if only to pursue a bigger win than before, I make sure what you say is true.
but if a person is gambling only for relaxation, fun and entertainment i think he will not be too chasing big wins which will lead to consecutive defeats and potentially addiction.

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Those studies seem kinda biased. Maybe some casinos paid for them, so we can't be sure about their objectivity.
Gambling cannot help for socialization, especially online gambling. I've gambled a lot in the past and it didn't make more social or talkative.
An introverted and socially awkward person will always remain socially awkward.
All this BS about gambling making you happy and reducing stress seems artificial. Many other activities can make you happy and reduce stress, like drinking alcohol, playing video games, porn, smoking weed. That doesn't mean that those activities are healthy. This is a pretty artificial way to  make you happy and less stressed out. One more thing is that gambling doesn't bring financial benefits, even if it's done in moderation.


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Otherwise, if he takes it as a profession, he will be degraded.
In what sense a person can be degraded if he took gambling as a profession? Isn't this too judgemental?

There's even nothing to judge to a professional gambler anyway,  coz professional means you're earning, and when you're earning you are actually responsible enough to sustain your daily necessities.
So, I don't see any sense on why he thinks professional gambling is degrading lol.
I can say being a dirty politician is way more degrading.
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In fact, gamblers who advise gamblers are not necessarily the same as those who advise, and it is a fact and realize that the house always wins and the wins we get are not worth the losses they suffer.
make gambling for fun, relieve stress and also fill spare time by preparing sufficient funds, and stopping when you win is the best way and stop when you lose when the funds that have been prepared run out. Enjoy the game and play quietly.
And this way will always get lucky and stop with a firm attitude and to get full luck. It's not easy, but it's the process that makes us smart gamblers.
I am picking one clause from your statement. Gamblers who are the vice another gambler in the same thing but the only difference is that the device may go or might go based on the past experience of the other gamblers so I have not seen a situation whereby gambler advice soccer gambler or casino gambling or cricket gambler and other numerous gamblers for better solution of skipping the methods of playing gambling. The only thing that will come from them its same strategies of betting and win. That mindset is in them.
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Very good summary of benefits people have through gambling. I agree with all the points of your list, except the stress reduction part. Losing money can be a very stressful experience that can affect us for a long period of time. Gambling is a very exciting experience that leads for me to a lot of what if thoughts. Whenever I lose a big bet my brain keeps asking me why I didn't stop at the right time. And I am trying to look at ways how I could have prevented that loss. Losing is part of gambling and we need to learn to deal with it. Learning new skills is a very important part for me in gambling, I would put it on top of your list. Through gambling I learned to take better care of my money, keep track of my income and expenses and have fixed budgets. It also helped me to deal with emotions and evaluate risks better and more quickly.
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Those studies seem kinda biased. Maybe some casinos paid for them, so we can't be sure about their objectivity.
Gambling cannot help for socialization, especially online gambling. I've gambled a lot in the past and it didn't make more social or talkative.
An introverted and socially awkward person will always remain socially awkward.
All this BS about gambling making you happy and reducing stress seems artificial. Many other activities can make you happy and reduce stress, like drinking alcohol, playing video games, porn, smoking weed. That doesn't mean that those activities are healthy. This is a pretty artificial way to  make you happy and less stressed out. One more thing is that gambling doesn't bring financial benefits, even if it's done in moderation.1
The last part I strongly agree with it. It doesn't give financial benefit even in moderation but worst, it will make you spend money. When put in together all that "moderated time and money spent" it will be a lot of waste.
About the fun part, it is half stress reduction and half making gamblers happy. It gives pleasure to your drive to win but that is momentarily. After you calm your endorphins down, you will be back to reality with not much memories of the win after a week or more. Even if you do remember it, it's not that much fun unlike other activities where memories are kept.
It's a biased article, no doubt as it only points out to the pros.
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