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August 12, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
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Many respectable people put gambling, alcoholism and drug addiction on the same level because all of these activities negatively affect the human psyche in the acute phase. If you drink a glass of wine on Fridays or play poker, it does not mean that it will negatively affect your health. But you should always remember that any hobby that can grow into a habit must be controlled.

It's pretty much the same thing. That's how addiction is formed, you do something, get the dopamine effect, you feel good at the moment, and then in the long term you have negative consequences. ~

You have negative consequences in the long term only if you are doing it more and more over time. You don't mean that we should not be getting the dopamine effect at all, do you?

The thing is that we cannot live without dopamine, and if we are getting some of it from gambling, then gambling is a good thing. But you can ruin any good thing by overusing it. That's what we always have to remember.

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The thing is that we cannot live without dopamine, and if we are getting some of it from gambling, then gambling is a good thing. But you can ruin any good thing by overusing it. That's what we always have to remember.
..Gambling is not a healthy activity - even the researches too have confirmed
People have to end it - not matter what - it brings less good and more trouble - and frustration - i would rather keep myself away from all the mess.

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August 12, 2022, 11:47:03 PM
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I guess that is human nature, I agree that gambling is not the way, but for the majority, specially if you have the means and access whether online or offline, this people will go and gamble to get out of their stressful like, maybe physical or emotional stress.

And as the majority said, everything should be in moderation, and as an individual, you should be the one controlling everything. Not your addiction to gambling and any vices because in the end you are the loser here.

Yeah, gambling, like any other addictive activity, should be enjoyed in moderation.

If someone cannot control themselves gambling, then it's probably a good idea to not gamble at all.

It's a good thing that underage people are not allowed inside a casino, because their minds are still developing, and they can easily get addicted.
Underage people restricted into the casino is good, but they were able to experience the similar experience with the smartphones. I'm not defending, but this should also have similar accessibility. Human mind always looks for an alternate, when they were restricted from caisno they look for the alternative. This can be a online casino, and some might choose to stay away from gambling.
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August 12, 2022, 11:53:03 PM
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Many respectable people put gambling, alcoholism and drug addiction on the same level because all of these activities negatively affect the human psyche in the acute phase. If you drink a glass of wine on Fridays or play poker, it does not mean that it will negatively affect your health. But you should always remember that any hobby that can grow into a habit must be controlled.

It's pretty much the same thing. That's how addiction is formed, you do something, get the dopamine effect, you feel good at the moment, and then in the long term you have negative consequences. ~

You have negative consequences in the long term only if you are doing it more and more over time. You don't mean that we should not be getting the dopamine effect at all, do you?

The thing is that we cannot live without dopamine, and if we are getting some of it from gambling, then gambling is a good thing. But you can ruin any good thing by overusing it. That's what we always have to remember.
Everything which is excess is really bad and you should watch out for that and with your actions which you arent really that dumb on not to foresee at least on what are the potential
things that might happen ahead if you do really make yourself get involved and keeps on making bad decisions specially with gambling which can really cause up some addiction
which would really be giving all the negative possible effects and outcome for a certain individual might able to face off.Play for fun and dont go beyond with your means
specially on making yourself that rich via gambling because thats not how it works.

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August 13, 2022, 12:16:44 AM
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Many respectable people put gambling, alcoholism and drug addiction on the same level because all of these activities negatively affect the human psyche in the acute phase. If you drink a glass of wine on Fridays or play poker, it does not mean that it will negatively affect your health. But you should always remember that any hobby that can grow into a habit must be controlled.

It's pretty much the same thing. That's how addiction is formed, you do something, get the dopamine effect, you feel good at the moment, and then in the long term you have negative consequences. ~

You have negative consequences in the long term only if you are doing it more and more over time. You don't mean that we should not be getting the dopamine effect at all, do you?

The thing is that we cannot live without dopamine, and if we are getting some of it from gambling, then gambling is a good thing. But you can ruin any good thing by overusing it. That's what we always have to remember.

Dopamine is one hell of a chemical. Imagine it being responsible for a lot of your habits and a lot of the things that cause you pleasure. This rewards center isn't easily overridden. You have to have a serious willpower if you want to change what it trained your brain to look for when it comes to pleasure. If people are gambling on a continuous basis, even if it's in moderation, there is still a high chance that this individual will get addicted to it. But again, if you have a willpower similar to a god's, you'll just develop a habit but not get addicted, and those are two different things.

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August 13, 2022, 06:31:22 AM
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Gamblers literally don't need to stop. Just take a break every after a painful loss and they can return again in action.

Stopping to do gambling is not that simple and it needs a strong dedication to do. But in the very first place, there's no need to actually stop. Just take it slowly and make way to moderate our gambling activity. In that way, we are not fully falling down to the negative effects of gambling.

I know it's hard to resist the temptation of gambling and chasing our losses is always the thing on our minds.

But if we don't do anything to help ourselves, then big problems are ahead.
If we still do discipline gambling, I guess there will be no bigger problems waiting ahead. Just knowing how to gamble moderately and of course, putting it into action will still make us profitable in the long run. Just try to always control your emotions when you are in loss to avoid more possible losses, otherwise you will go home empty handed and leaves the gambling casinos always with a heavy heart.
Discipline and gambling are two different things. In our region gamblers are not appreciated and they always face criticism and distress.
But its very good to know that many gamblers are disciplined and they don't steal other people's money and don't have lust for taking advantage of other. I have hardly seen selfless people who are concerned about themselves and are not selfish at all.


Well, the truth is that every player must have ethics first and foremost, there is no reason to steal from others, in fact if you play on an online casino platform there is no way you can steal, the only way is that you can get a vulnerability and manage to exploit it, even so it must be taken into account that this is quickly questionable and the offender is quickly found, in fact many casinos are updating all their systems to avoid these things, if we see the events from a point of view in favor of a player, it can be concluded that the player only exploits the vulnerability and the casino is blamed, but if not, he should inform the casino and the casino must give him a very good remuneration so that he can continue to exercise that trust between player-casino .

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Well, the truth is that every player must have ethics first and foremost, there is no reason to steal from others, in fact if you play on an online casino platform there is no way you can steal, the only way is that you can get a vulnerability and manage to exploit it, even so it must be taken into account that this is quickly questionable and the offender is quickly found, in fact many casinos are updating all their systems to avoid these things, if we see the events from a point of view in favor of a player, it can be concluded that the player only exploits the vulnerability and the casino is blamed, but if not, he should inform the casino and the casino must give him a very good remuneration so that he can continue to exercise that trust between player-casino .


Going to that point, yes, it's true that the chance of overrunning the house are cause by exploiting or some illegal act that a gambler might found while playing, but the trust is important and instead of abusing it reporting it to the house will surely give you compensation or maybe a VIP treatment.

In terms of balancing your time between your life and your gambling activities, it's better to have the right practices and discipline in avoiding getting too much addicted to the point that it will cause risking your physical and mental health.

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August 13, 2022, 06:52:32 AM
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It is me or it just they spin it around to look like gambling has a lot of benefits?

Sure, you can be happy when playing, I experienced that, but what happened next? specially after a big lost? So I guess it's very different from each individual, but I would tend to agree that winning is a big part why we continue to gamble. And I also don't think that gamblers think much of the government and the taxes and where it is going. We all just want to play try our luck and win, simply as that.
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 I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.

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August 14, 2022, 10:48:22 AM
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I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.
Feeling depressed after experiencing defeat can come to anyone and what we can do is how we can overcome or control the feeling of depression so that it does not affect our activities after we play gambling. Most people experience that feeling and many of them have not been able to get rid of the feeling of losing money at the gambling table and still want to recover from that loss. This is what makes many people continue to gamble because they want to recover from that loss.

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August 14, 2022, 10:56:29 AM
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Many respectable people put gambling, alcoholism and drug addiction on the same level because all of these activities negatively affect the human psyche in the acute phase. If you drink a glass of wine on Fridays or play poker, it does not mean that it will negatively affect your health. But you should always remember that any hobby that can grow into a habit must be controlled.

It's pretty much the same thing. That's how addiction is formed, you do something, get the dopamine effect, you feel good at the moment, and then in the long term you have negative consequences. ~

You have negative consequences in the long term only if you are doing it more and more over time. You don't mean that we should not be getting the dopamine effect at all, do you?

The thing is that we cannot live without dopamine, and if we are getting some of it from gambling, then gambling is a good thing. But you can ruin any good thing by overusing it. That's what we always have to remember.

Dopamine is one hell of a chemical. Imagine it being responsible for a lot of your habits and a lot of the things that cause you pleasure. This rewards center isn't easily overridden. You have to have a serious willpower if you want to change what it trained your brain to look for when it comes to pleasure. If people are gambling on a continuous basis, even if it's in moderation, there is still a high chance that this individual will get addicted to it. But again, if you have a willpower similar to a god's, you'll just develop a habit but not get addicted, and those are two different things.

Yes, dopamine and serotonin are very important hormones for any person.  They give joy to life. 

However, in order to receive dopamine and serotonin, it is not necessary to gamble.  Bananas, real cocoa, sweet bun - all these products provide the body with these essential hormones. 

This should be taken into account when dealing with gambling addiction.

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Yes, dopamine and serotonin are very important hormones for any person.  They give joy to life.  

However, in order to receive dopamine and serotonin, it is not necessary to gamble.  Bananas, real cocoa, sweet bun - all these products provide the body with these essential hormones.  

This should be taken into account when dealing with gambling addiction.

You can basically make your body produce "feel good" chemicals at any time. You just need to withdraw something you need or want for some period of time, and then when you get it, you'll feel great.

It can be a basic thing such as water or food, hot showers, whatever. Just don't get them for a day or two (not medical advice, don't do it without medical supervision) or whatever time period your body needs to remove that feeling from your system and then when you actually get it after that period you will feel amazing.

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August 15, 2022, 12:52:20 AM
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I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.
Feeling depressed after experiencing defeat can come to anyone and what we can do is how we can overcome or control the feeling of depression so that it does not affect our activities after we play gambling. Most people experience that feeling and many of them have not been able to get rid of the feeling of losing money at the gambling table and still want to recover from that loss. This is what makes many people continue to gamble because they want to recover from that loss.
Chasing losses is probably one of the biggest problems when it comes to gambling addiction, it is understandable that people are not happy when they lose, and it is even more understandable that people are very unhappy when they lose a lot of money, but they need to accept that whenever they gamble they can either win or lose, if they cannot accept this simple reality then a person like that should never gamble, otherwise they are going to begin to chase their losses and lose way more money in the process.
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If we talk of gambling in moderation, then of course it is the good way of doing gambling. So there must be good effects coming from that. But if we talk of gambling in general, then it includes all kinds of gambling including gambling that is beyond moderation, impulsive gambling, gambling due to stress, etc.

If gambling in general is to be assessed, I believe the cons easily outweigh the pros. I think gambling has provided more negative effects than positive effects to the financial situations of gamblers.
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August 15, 2022, 04:04:03 AM
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I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.
Feeling depressed after experiencing defeat can come to anyone and what we can do is how we can overcome or control the feeling of depression so that it does not affect our activities after we play gambling. Most people experience that feeling and many of them have not been able to get rid of the feeling of losing money at the gambling table and still want to recover from that loss. This is what makes many people continue to gamble because they want to recover from that loss.
Chasing losses is probably one of the biggest problems when it comes to gambling addiction, it is understandable that people are not happy when they lose, and it is even more understandable that people are very unhappy when they lose a lot of money, but they need to accept that whenever they gamble they can either win or lose, if they cannot accept this simple reality then a person like that should never gamble, otherwise they are going to begin to chase their losses and lose way more money in the process.
Chasing losses is made by not only an addicted gambler but also other gamblers because experiencing defeat at gambling is very unpleasant and can give bad memories in our memory. This makes many gamblers still want to return to gambling because they indirectly think that apart from having fun, they also want to try to recover from previous losses. We can accept the defeat and not chase the losses that we experienced before but it is difficult to get rid of that thought and only by continuing to have good discipline can help us to avoid bigger defeats than before.

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Honestly there is no going in moderation.  For the most part people can't stop thselves when they are going.  Gbling in moderation means that someone actually has control over themselves.  I've known enough people who gamble to know that gambling in moderation is nothing more than just a saying.

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Honestly there is no going in moderation.  For the most part people can't stop thselves when they are going.  Gbling in moderation means that someone actually has control over the elves.  I've known enough people who gamble to know that gambling in moderation is nothing more than just a saying.

Most people in the world either gamble once in a while, or never at all. There's only very few people that gamble constantly and that have issues with it.

Maybe if you're surrounded by them you might think there's no gambling in moderation, but there really is. It's the same with alcohol, most people drink alcohol in moderation or nothing at all. It's only the minority of people around the world that have an alcohol problem, but if you're surrounded by them you might think it's everyone.

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August 15, 2022, 07:00:18 AM
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I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.
Feeling depressed after experiencing defeat can come to anyone and what we can do is how we can overcome or control the feeling of depression so that it does not affect our activities after we play gambling. Most people experience that feeling and many of them have not been able to get rid of the feeling of losing money at the gambling table and still want to recover from that loss. This is what makes many people continue to gamble because they want to recover from that loss.


We have several threads discussing psychological disorders of gambling, all of which can help us on how to prevent it and how we should act.
referring to what you said, to be honest most of us have experienced or often experience the things you mentioned, especially when we want to recover losses and continue playing sessions.
things like this that someone who is often involved in gambling activities must realize, one of which is to moderate the gambling itself, and this is not easy as I said. at least we will need practice and change the mindset about gambling itself and make it just a fun pastime.

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August 15, 2022, 10:56:00 AM
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If we talk of gambling in moderation, then of course it is the good way of doing gambling. So there must be good effects coming from that. But if we talk of gambling in general, then it includes all kinds of gambling including gambling that is beyond moderation, impulsive gambling, gambling due to stress, etc.

If gambling in general is to be assessed, I believe the cons easily outweigh the pros. I think gambling has provided more negative effects than positive effects to the financial situations of gamblers.

While you are right that there are probably more people who lose in gambling than there are winners, it's important to look at the whole picture. I expect that the majority in gambling either wins small or loses small. From my friends I know that we all spend smaller amounts in the casino and try to keep our losses limited. Over the years I wouldn't say that gambling had a big impact on my financial situation, because I also look at the opportunity costs. If I don't spend one evening gambling than I would do something else, like go to the movies, or to bar drinking with friends, or to a restaurant. All of the alternatives would also cost money and should be compared to the losses in gambling. It's not like if I stop gambling I would sit at home and only watch TV. Gambling is much more interactive than to watch passively TV. It's good to focus on the benefits of gambling from time to time. This means reasonable and compulsory or addictive gambling.
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August 15, 2022, 11:52:26 AM
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I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.
Feeling depressed after experiencing defeat can come to anyone and what we can do is how we can overcome or control the feeling of depression so that it does not affect our activities after we play gambling. Most people experience that feeling and many of them have not been able to get rid of the feeling of losing money at the gambling table and still want to recover from that loss. This is what makes many people continue to gamble because they want to recover from that loss.


We have several threads discussing psychological disorders of gambling, all of which can help us on how to prevent it and how we should act.
referring to what you said, to be honest most of us have experienced or often experience the things you mentioned, especially when we want to recover losses and continue playing sessions.
things like this that someone who is often involved in gambling activities must realize, one of which is to moderate the gambling itself, and this is not easy as I said. at least we will need practice and change the mindset about gambling itself and make it just a fun pastime.

This makes sense. Whenever we fail, as humans, we have the urgency to get back on track and try again because we want to recover from our failure and losses. This is a good approach especially in the field of career. However, applying it in gambling has its limitations. Because the more we want to recover from our lost bet, the more we will continue to bet and gamble which can lead to further losses.

During my experiences in different situations, we must not be overtaken by our emotions. And once we feel like in the brink and edge, we must not engage any further because not being in the right mental headspace could just add to our initial problem.
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August 15, 2022, 12:01:14 PM
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I think everything that has an advantage has a disadvantage as well. The thing there is, instead of over flogging the matter of gambling, one has to bear in mind that in as much studies show that gambling is an activity that releases dopamine, one has to be moderate in his gambling to avoid feeling depressed after a loss.
Feeling depressed after experiencing defeat can come to anyone and what we can do is how we can overcome or control the feeling of depression so that it does not affect our activities after we play gambling. Most people experience that feeling and many of them have not been able to get rid of the feeling of losing money at the gambling table and still want to recover from that loss. This is what makes many people continue to gamble because they want to recover from that loss.


We have several threads discussing psychological disorders of gambling, all of which can help us on how to prevent it and how we should act.
referring to what you said, to be honest most of us have experienced or often experience the things you mentioned, especially when we want to recover losses and continue playing sessions.
things like this that someone who is often involved in gambling activities must realize, one of which is to moderate the gambling itself, and this is not easy as I said. at least we will need practice and change the mindset about gambling itself and make it just a fun pastime.

This makes sense. Whenever we fail, as humans, we have the urgency to get back on track and try again because we want to recover from our failure and losses. This is a good approach especially in the field of career. However, applying it in gambling has its limitations. Because the more we want to recover from our lost bet, the more we will continue to bet and gamble which can lead to further losses.

During my experiences in different situations, we must not be overtaken by our emotions. And once we feel like in the brink and edge, we must not engage any further because not being in the right mental headspace could just add to our initial problem.

We experience this incidents especially back on old days as newbie gamblers this is why we need to settle up so that we will not encounter any huge issues since sometimes chasing up losses might put us at risk to get addicted since feeling to recover more on what supposed to be lose amount is more intense. That's why we need to have self control towards this because for sure if we are well discipline we will not do bad decision which can cost us a lot of troubles.

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