Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed)

[Yamifoud]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.

I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.

It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.

[Sanitough]

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.

I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.

It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.

But it's not impossible if he has a great plan, then we might see a trilogy of this fight.

This is the odds on the first fight.

Haney is the -175 favorite (risk $175 to win $100), while Kambosos is priced as the +150 underdog

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For sure we will not see the same odds anymore in the rematch, but for those who believe that Kambosos will win, then the odds will be in your favor. Yes, Kambosos is not quick though, that's given, so he has to make a game plan that will suit his capacity but the main goal is to beat Haney.

[Daltonik]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

[inthelongrun]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

I voted for Haney to win by decision. You will not be able to see the picks of our fellow bitcointalk boxing fans then if you will not cast your vote.

I get your point though. Kambosos know that he will not have a chance in this rematch if he will not make major adjustments. Kambosos have to risk everything including getting hit by solid counters because he needs to be the aggressor. And he should let his hands go by throwing combinations after combinations. Maybe Kambosos might pull the upset if he can throw combinations throughout the whole 12 rounds. He's got the work ethic so I'm pretty sure he's got the stamina. And as for Haney. He will continue to fight smart. Expect Haney to box and then hug and dance if Kambosos will throw many combinations per round.   

[Japinat]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.

Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.

[Fredomago]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.

Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.

Yup both camps will adjust, there are lots of time for preparations and it won't be wasted as both camps will review all those available resources to make sure that the fighters are ready when the rematch take place, you don't need to rush and you can use those references about how members here are sharing with whom they are favoring to bet with. Both fighters are hungry for winning, both do have missions to fulfil, so we may expect an interesting fight between the two.

[Baofeng]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

I voted for Haney to win by decision. You will not be able to see the picks of our fellow bitcointalk boxing fans then if you will not cast your vote.

Here is the current results of the voting, hehehe.

I get your point though. Kambosos know that he will not have a chance in this rematch if he will not make major adjustments. Kambosos have to risk everything including getting hit by solid counters because he needs to be the aggressor. And he should let his hands go by throwing combinations after combinations. Maybe Kambosos might pull the upset if he can throw combinations throughout the whole 12 rounds. He's got the work ethic so I'm pretty sure he's got the stamina. And as for Haney. He will continue to fight smart. Expect Haney to box and then hug and dance if Kambosos will throw many combinations per round.   

Yes, it's just a matter of adjustment. He needs to be a volume puncher and shouldn't give Haney some spaces. And his team as well, they should give a fair assessment of the fight and tell it honest on George face. Unlike in the 1st fight wherein the corner seems to be lost as they see that George is winning. His trainer should tell if they are behind the scorecard as he see it so that he could advise George to let go of his hands. But I still go with Haney winning by maybe a majority decision, 1 judge may decide it a draw, and 2 on a very close score to Haney.

[AmoreJaz]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.

Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.

Yup both camps will adjust, there are lots of time for preparations and it won't be wasted as both camps will review all those available resources to make sure that the fighters are ready when the rematch take place, you don't need to rush and you can use those references about how members here are sharing with whom they are favoring to bet with. Both fighters are hungry for winning, both do have missions to fulfil, so we may expect an interesting fight between the two.

many are rooting for Haney here. but wonder what the odds will be from the bookies? both wanted to win. either they will engage inside the ring, or one of them will be too careful with their movements. but in any case, i believe this fight is worth to watch and bet also. i may go for haney here. but let's see the odds, it may be like 1.0x in favour of haney, which is not worth it if you will bet small.

[Fundamentals Of]

I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.

[bittraffic]

I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.

He might after all the fight is in his country, he just needs a strategy. He probably will just get a warning if he throws low blows until he gets a warning. But seeing this isn't making it worth it for Haney to go to Australia because this fight is not selling a stadium. Less money compares to what Kam got in the first fight. I think Haney meant there is the need to go to the US for the third fight in his interview. https://youtu.be/8dFaBj4Q9h8?t=73

[Fundamentals Of]

I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.

He might after all the fight is in his country, he just needs a strategy. He probably will just get a warning if he throws low blows until he gets a warning. But seeing this isn't making it worth it for Haney to go to Australia because this fight is not selling a stadium. Less money compares to what Kam got in the first fight. I think Haney meant there is the need to go to the US for the third fight in his interview. https://youtu.be/8dFaBj4Q9h8?t=73

A third fight will only happen if Kambosos wins this one. If that happens then it is indeed fair that the third match be held in Haney's country. It would be unfair if all three matches happens in Kambosos' place. But I doubt there's a trilogy happening on this one.

I don't consider a low blow as a good strategy. I don't recommend Kambosos to do that. If that's what it takes for him to get revenge and win, I'd rather that he'd lose the fight clean and fair. But even this one could hardly be executed since Haney maintains the distance very well.

[TravelMug]

I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.

He might after all the fight is in his country, he just needs a strategy. He probably will just get a warning if he throws low blows until he gets a warning. But seeing this isn't making it worth it for Haney to go to Australia because this fight is not selling a stadium. Less money compares to what Kam got in the first fight. I think Haney meant there is the need to go to the US for the third fight in his interview. https://youtu.be/8dFaBj4Q9h8?t=73

Haney negated the home court advantage of Kambosos. He didn't allow him to dictate the tempo of the fight. And just like what he said on the first one, on the press conference, he has the tools to offset what George has to offer and that's what he did and he won convincingly.

I think in the rematch clause, still includes as Australia to be the venue. So Haney has no choice and to travel again, but it doesn't matter to him.

[Kelvinid]

I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.

He might after all the fight is in his country, he just needs a strategy. He probably will just get a warning if he throws low blows until he gets a warning. But seeing this isn't making it worth it for Haney to go to Australia because this fight is not selling a stadium. Less money compares to what Kam got in the first fight. I think Haney meant there is the need to go to the US for the third fight in his interview. https://youtu.be/8dFaBj4Q9h8?t=73

Haney negated the home court advantage of Kambosos. He didn't allow him to dictate the tempo of the fight. And just like what he said on the first one, on the press conference, he has the tools to offset what George has to offer and that's what he did and he won convincingly.

I think in the rematch clause, still includes as Australia to be the venue. So Haney has no choice and to travel again, but it doesn't matter to him.

Kambosos will be once again humiliated in front of his fans if he will again do it in the same venue as the previous fight. I think the fight should happen in the US, Kambosos will also have to ensure that he is ready so he will not end up as a punching bag by Haney. Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

[Jawhead999]

Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

Actually Kambosos already try to be aggressive on the previous fight, but his aggressiveness make him to open his defense and Haney using that moment to jab Kambosos multiple times. Every time Kambosos want to punch Haney, his reach isn't long enough to hit Haney, but Haney can hit Kambosos.

I think it's better if Kambosos learn fake punch like how Canelo did, it may trick Haney since Kambosos never did that in his past fights.

[Yaunfitda]

Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

Actually Kambosos already try to be aggressive on the previous fight, but his aggressiveness make him to open his defense and Haney using that moment to jab Kambosos multiple times. Every time Kambosos want to punch Haney, his reach isn't long enough to hit Haney, but Haney can hit Kambosos.

I think it's better if Kambosos learn fake punch like how Canelo did, it may trick Haney since Kambosos never did that in his past fights.

He did actually, but it was sort of late already, as Haney has a good lead in points in the judges scorecard. And it was just about round 7 or 8 that George really try to be that aggressive, but Devin was too intelligent for that and he fend his aggressiveness with a good defense and a jab and then hug in to stop his momentum. But a intelligent boxer, he was able to break down every attempt of Kambosos to win their fight.

[bisdak40]

Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

Actually Kambosos already try to be aggressive on the previous fight, but his aggressiveness make him to open his defense and Haney using that moment to jab Kambosos multiple times. Every time Kambosos want to punch Haney, his reach isn't long enough to hit Haney, but Haney can hit Kambosos.

I think it's better if Kambosos learn fake punch like how Canelo did, it may trick Haney since Kambosos never did that in his past fights.

Kambosos fought Haney's fight, I mean Haney is more of a counter puncher which could make the fight boring if Kambosos will wait till Haney attacks like what he did with Lopez where we saw his counter was effective because the latter was the aggressor while Kambosos just wait till it's time to counter.

I'm sure that they already studied the tape of the first fight but I don't think any adjustment on Team Kambosos would change the outcome of the rematch not unless he would land that lucky punch that could put Haney to sleep.

[yazher]

Kambosos will be once again humiliated in front of his fans if he will again do it in the same venue as the previous fight. I think the fight should happen in the US, Kambosos will also have to ensure that he is ready so he will not end up as a punching bag by Haney. Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

Most second fights don't get up to the third because the boxer that won last time has more dominated his opponent the second time and I think since Haney is the Undisputed champion in their weight division, he already improved a lot and might finish Kambosos easily because he already knows his game inside the ring. I'm rooting for Haney to win because I want to see him move on with rivalry with Kambosos because he needs some big fight next time.

[erep]

Most second fights don't get up to the third because the boxer that won last time has more dominated his opponent the second time and I think since Haney is the Undisputed champion in their weight division, he already improved a lot and might finish Kambosos easily because he already knows his game inside the ring. I'm rooting for Haney to win because I want to see him move on with rivalry with Kambosos because he needs some big fight next time.

If Haney finishes the fight harder to take down Kambosos in the same ring then it is impossible to predict the trilogy fight, Haney is very confident in preparation for that match because he has made Kambosos face swell in the middle of the round in the previous fight, so Haney knows every opportunity to hits hard and maybe he finishes it for TKO. The comparison of Haney ability to dominate compared to Kambosos, so Kambosos must train hard to complete the big challenge to get victory in the second boxing fight at Marvel Stadium

[Japinat]

Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

Actually Kambosos already try to be aggressive on the previous fight, but his aggressiveness make him to open his defense and Haney using that moment to jab Kambosos multiple times. Every time Kambosos want to punch Haney, his reach isn't long enough to hit Haney, but Haney can hit Kambosos.

I think it's better if Kambosos learn fake punch like how Canelo did, it may trick Haney since Kambosos never did that in his past fights.

He did actually, but it was sort of late already, as Haney has a good lead in points in the judges scorecard. And it was just about round 7 or 8 that George really try to be that aggressive, but Devin was too intelligent for that and he fend his aggressiveness with a good defense and a jab and then hug in to stop his momentum. But a intelligent boxer, he was able to break down every attempt of Kambosos to win their fight.

I remember that we expected Kambosos to be aggressive in the early rounds because that way he will manage to get nearer to Haney but we saw the opposite as he chooses to feel Haney first before making a move which was his kind of his mistake because Haney has the reach advantage.
But you know, Devin Haney was criticized for his style because it is really boring to see, which was the opposite from what people paid to see and that is to have entertainment but they didn't know that Haney is actually better than that and that he is unique unlike from other boxers that are aggressive.

[Fredomago]

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.

Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.

Yup both camps will adjust, there are lots of time for preparations and it won't be wasted as both camps will review all those available resources to make sure that the fighters are ready when the rematch take place, you don't need to rush and you can use those references about how members here are sharing with whom they are favoring to bet with. Both fighters are hungry for winning, both do have missions to fulfil, so we may expect an interesting fight between the two.

many are rooting for Haney here. but wonder what the odds will be from the bookies? both wanted to win. either they will engage inside the ring, or one of them will be too careful with their movements. but in any case, i believe this fight is worth to watch and bet also. i may go for haney here. but let's see the odds, it may be like 1.0x in favour of haney, which is not worth it if you will bet small.

If you can risk or spare a small amount much better to wait when the fight is ongoing there are additional options instead of risking using ML, If the odd is something like that it's not worth the risk unless you will put a huge amount of bet and enjoy decent winning if Haney will win the fight. If you think Haney will win and if there's an option for what rounds or what kind of result, most of the time that kind of additional betting odd are available during the fight.