[Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8

[Russlenat]

The match with Ioka is not possible now if Ancajas will lose. I also don't think that stepping up weight will regain his reputation. It's good to move up weight after a winning match instead of losing 2 times in a row and just to avoid Martinez in the future, he will jump on another division.

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

What we are talking are just the possibilities, but it might change if he wins the rematch.

[goinmerry]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

Let's say Jerwin Ancajas will lose here, does it really a good decision to just left that division and moved up?

How can he even get good fights at Super Bantamweight if he is struggling with some of the best fighters in Junior Bantamweight?

If he loses, moving up for me is not a good decision. Start from scratch and have a goal to become a champion again at Junior Bantamweight which is his comfort zone at most points of his career. He dominates that division for several years and I'm sure he can repeat it.

But of course, that was just speculation as I believed he will win here in this rematch against Martinez and then finally move up.

[Fredomago]

The match with Ioka is not possible now if Ancajas will lose. I also don't think that stepping up weight will regain his reputation. It's good to move up weight after a winning match instead of losing 2 times in a row and just to avoid Martinez in the future, he will jump on another division.

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

What we are talking are just the possibilities, but it might change if he wins the rematch.

That's right if he will move up after losing he will start his journey from the scratch again, unless his handlers have a strong connection and established a good money fight for him on his new division, that's only an opinion but for now he should not think about that just focus with this upcoming fight and comes up inside the ring bringing everything he got.

Just do things one at a time. If fate will let him win this rematch, he can move up with a much better hype.

A possible good money fight might await him on his new journey..

[Baofeng]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

Let's say Jerwin Ancajas will lose here, does it really a good decision to just left that division and moved up?

How can he even get good fights at Super Bantamweight if he is struggling with some of the best fighters in Junior Bantamweight?

If he loses, moving up for me is not a good decision. Start from scratch and have a goal to become a champion again at Junior Bantamweight which is his comfort zone at most points of his career. He dominates that division for several years and I'm sure he can repeat it.

But of course, that was just speculation as I believed he will win here in this rematch against Martinez and then finally move up.

If the problem is weight then definitely he will have to move up because his body can't adapt to this lower weight anymore. And just like what Teo Lopez did, cherry pick a fighter, a boxer that has a good record, but he can easily beat in the fight because he has far more superior skills. It's up to his manager and promotions MP and Sean Gibbons to find him that target in the next weight and work his way up, put up a good string of wins and maybe he will have a crack at the belt again. Jerwin is young so the future is still bright for this kid.

[Japinat]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

Let's say Jerwin Ancajas will lose here, does it really a good decision to just left that division and moved up?

How can he even get good fights at Super Bantamweight if he is struggling with some of the best fighters in Junior Bantamweight?

If he loses, moving up for me is not a good decision. Start from scratch and have a goal to become a champion again at Junior Bantamweight which is his comfort zone at most points of his career. He dominates that division for several years and I'm sure he can repeat it.

But of course, that was just speculation as I believed he will win here in this rematch against Martinez and then finally move up.

If the problem is weight then definitely he will have to move up because his body can't adapt to this lower weight anymore. And just like what Teo Lopez did, cherry pick a fighter, a boxer that has a good record, but he can easily beat in the fight because he has far more superior skills. It's up to his manager and promotions MP and Sean Gibbons to find him that target in the next weight and work his way up, put up a good string of wins and maybe he will have a crack at the belt again. Jerwin is young so the future is still bright for this kid.

That's the right thing to do, he cannot make the same excuse if he again loses in the rematch, time to move up in weight and try to be a contender for the champions. It's not over yet for Ancajas, he can win here and be a champion, however, it's not easy to beat Martinez, what we saw in the first fight was Martinez is a very dominating boxer, so let's expect that Martinez will start strong and only a good stamina can help Ancajas survive and win.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

Let's say Jerwin Ancajas will lose here, does it really a good decision to just left that division and moved up?

How can he even get good fights at Super Bantamweight if he is struggling with some of the best fighters in Junior Bantamweight?

If he loses, moving up for me is not a good decision. Start from scratch and have a goal to become a champion again at Junior Bantamweight which is his comfort zone at most points of his career. He dominates that division for several years and I'm sure he can repeat it.

But of course, that was just speculation as I believed he will win here in this rematch against Martinez and then finally move up.

If the problem is weight then definitely he will have to move up because his body can't adapt to this lower weight anymore. And just like what Teo Lopez did, cherry pick a fighter, a boxer that has a good record, but he can easily beat in the fight because he has far more superior skills. It's up to his manager and promotions MP and Sean Gibbons to find him that target in the next weight and work his way up, put up a good string of wins and maybe he will have a crack at the belt again. Jerwin is young so the future is still bright for this kid.

That's the right thing to do, he cannot make the same excuse if he again loses in the rematch, time to move up in weight and try to be a contender for the champions. It's not over yet for Ancajas, he can win here and be a champion, however, it's not easy to beat Martinez, what we saw in the first fight was Martinez is a very dominating boxer, so let's expect that Martinez will start strong and only a good stamina can help Ancajas survive and win.

Yes and Martinez will think that he can beat any version of Jerwin Ancajas. So he won't take anything for granted, and same with Anjacas. If by chance he fall short again, then it's time to him to test the next division. But if he can win then maybe a trilogy or go for the other champion because it seems that everyone wanted to have all the belts unify and clean their respective divisions like Inoue and then we have the rumoured fight between Crawford and Spence for all the belt as well.

[goinmerry]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

Let's say Jerwin Ancajas will lose here, does it really a good decision to just left that division and moved up?

How can he even get good fights at Super Bantamweight if he is struggling with some of the best fighters in Junior Bantamweight?

If he loses, moving up for me is not a good decision. Start from scratch and have a goal to become a champion again at Junior Bantamweight which is his comfort zone at most points of his career. He dominates that division for several years and I'm sure he can repeat it.

But of course, that was just speculation as I believed he will win here in this rematch against Martinez and then finally move up.

If the problem is weight then definitely he will have to move up because his body can't adapt to this lower weight anymore. And just like what Teo Lopez did, cherry pick a fighter, a boxer that has a good record, but he can easily beat in the fight because he has far more superior skills. It's up to his manager and promotions MP and Sean Gibbons to find him that target in the next weight and work his way up, put up a good string of wins and maybe he will have a crack at the belt again. Jerwin is young so the future is still bright for this kid.

I got the point but isn't it a bad decision to just moved up a weight after losing a match instead of moving up weight coming from a win?

It will be hard for Ancajas to pick a fight in the new division if he came from a loss as promoters might not be bothered to arrange fights involving him.

But too early to talk about this moving-up decision as what matters here is, that Ancajas should win this rematch against Martinez no matter what.

[agustina2]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

What we are talking are just the possibilities, but it might change if he wins the rematch.

If he moved up after being defeated by Martinez, is there any fighter at the good rank that is willing to pick him up as an opponent?

In most cases, a top-rank fighter will just choose an opponent within the top ranks too.

But I have to agree with anyone here that no room to discuss the moving up for now.

[Viscore]

In the recent article I have posted, it's clear that Ancajas is having difficulty maintaining his weight that's why they hired a new nutritionist to help him be in good shape for this rematch. The camp stated that because of how Ancajas struggles to catch the required weight, he becomes not 100% on the fight which should not be a reason why they end up losing.

We need to trust his team as no choice after all but to support him.

If that's the case then he really needs to work things out just for this fight and he might consider moving to the upper division where he is more comfortable and with some worthy opponents waiting for him. of course, it is completely different and if he can adopt in that weight class as soon as possible, he can also be one of the top boxers there. All he needs to do right now is to train and dedicate this fight for his dream so that he will have a strong motivation to never give up.

Ancajas should give his focus and determination first to win this rematch so he can win back his title too. If he has difficulty in reaching the required weight, for sure the team is already working on it so he will be totally fit for the upcoming fight. I want to bet on Ancajas this time because I know his boxing potentials is high and he has still a lot of rooms to grow.

[stadus]

In the recent article I have posted, it's clear that Ancajas is having difficulty maintaining his weight that's why they hired a new nutritionist to help him be in good shape for this rematch. The camp stated that because of how Ancajas struggles to catch the required weight, he becomes not 100% on the fight which should not be a reason why they end up losing.

We need to trust his team as no choice after all but to support him.

If that's the case then he really needs to work things out just for this fight and he might consider moving to the upper division where he is more comfortable and with some worthy opponents waiting for him. of course, it is completely different and if he can adopt in that weight class as soon as possible, he can also be one of the top boxers there. All he needs to do right now is to train and dedicate this fight for his dream so that he will have a strong motivation to never give up.

Ancajas should give his focus and determination first to win this rematch so he can win back his title too. If he has difficulty in reaching the required weight, for sure the team is already working on it so he will be totally fit for the upcoming fight. I want to bet on Ancajas this time because I know his boxing potentials is high and he has still a lot of rooms to grow.

He was the champion, this fight is just his chance for him to get back the belt, so nothing new here, he just have to make an improvement and beat Martinez. However, if the outcome will be the same as in the previous fight, then there's no room for him to grow anymore in this division, the next step should be leaving the division by going up.

[AmoreJaz]

In the recent article I have posted, it's clear that Ancajas is having difficulty maintaining his weight that's why they hired a new nutritionist to help him be in good shape for this rematch. The camp stated that because of how Ancajas struggles to catch the required weight, he becomes not 100% on the fight which should not be a reason why they end up losing.

We need to trust his team as no choice after all but to support him.

If that's the case then he really needs to work things out just for this fight and he might consider moving to the upper division where he is more comfortable and with some worthy opponents waiting for him. of course, it is completely different and if he can adopt in that weight class as soon as possible, he can also be one of the top boxers there. All he needs to do right now is to train and dedicate this fight for his dream so that he will have a strong motivation to never give up.

Ancajas should give his focus and determination first to win this rematch so he can win back his title too. If he has difficulty in reaching the required weight, for sure the team is already working on it so he will be totally fit for the upcoming fight. I want to bet on Ancajas this time because I know his boxing potentials is high and he has still a lot of rooms to grow.

He was the champion, this fight is just his chance for him to get back the belt, so nothing new here, he just have to make an improvement and beat Martinez. However, if the outcome will be the same as in the previous fight, then there's no room for him to grow anymore in this division, the next step should be leaving the division by going up.

this is indeed a challenge on ancajas to get his title back. the required weight should not be a problem at all, because it needs work from himself and his camp. it should not be a problem at all but should focus on their strategies how to win his title back. as he already knew the possible weaknesses and strengths of his opponent, should not be too difficult for him to identify what areas he needs to take care of.

[inthelongrun]

Ancajas is big and he is supposed to move up in weight. But his team realized that they might spend years on another division in order to take a title fight. So they took advantage of the rematch clause in order to regain that belt and then move up in weight. A reigning champion moving up in weight should have no problems requesting for higher ranking or he can ask the IBF for a special eliminator so he can fight for a title in a year or even less. Or he can even fight for a vacant belt as Inoue will move up in weight once crowned undisputed.

I just wish Jerwin is in top form and focus on his gifts and natural skills rather than attempting to brawl just to please the crowd.

[Natalim]

I just wish Jerwin is in top form and focus on his gifts and natural skills rather than attempting to brawl just to please the crowd.

That's what we definitely want to see, that way there will be no more excuses from his camp, and accept the defeat if he losses. Although I'm not thinking he will lose, but he has to be a man, accept with no excuses and move on to the next plan.

[Japinat]

He needs to win here, but if he losses, there's no other way but to move up in weight, though it will not hype him but IMO, that's the right thing to do for him to be comfortable in maintaining his weight. He will have to start his journey in a new division and hopefully we will continue to support him.

Let's say Jerwin Ancajas will lose here, does it really a good decision to just left that division and moved up?

How can he even get good fights at Super Bantamweight if he is struggling with some of the best fighters in Junior Bantamweight?

If he loses, moving up for me is not a good decision. Start from scratch and have a goal to become a champion again at Junior Bantamweight which is his comfort zone at most points of his career. He dominates that division for several years and I'm sure he can repeat it.

But of course, that was just speculation as I believed he will win here in this rematch against Martinez and then finally move up.

If the problem is weight then definitely he will have to move up because his body can't adapt to this lower weight anymore. And just like what Teo Lopez did, cherry pick a fighter, a boxer that has a good record, but he can easily beat in the fight because he has far more superior skills. It's up to his manager and promotions MP and Sean Gibbons to find him that target in the next weight and work his way up, put up a good string of wins and maybe he will have a crack at the belt again. Jerwin is young so the future is still bright for this kid.

That's the right thing to do, he cannot make the same excuse if he again loses in the rematch, time to move up in weight and try to be a contender for the champions. It's not over yet for Ancajas, he can win here and be a champion, however, it's not easy to beat Martinez, what we saw in the first fight was Martinez is a very dominating boxer, so let's expect that Martinez will start strong and only a good stamina can help Ancajas survive and win.

Yes and Martinez will think that he can beat any version of Jerwin Ancajas. So he won't take anything for granted, and same with Anjacas. If by chance he fall short again, then it's time to him to test the next division. But if he can win then maybe a trilogy or go for the other champion because it seems that everyone wanted to have all the belts unify and clean their respective divisions like Inoue and then we have the rumoured fight between Crawford and Spence for all the belt as well.

A trilogy sounds good to hear but before that Ancajas should put a win first in this rematch to tie the score and maybe soon, a trilogy might happen so that we can know who dominates more. Anyway, I hope that Ancajas won't have some struggles meeting the required weight again because that will make him fatigued again and give Martinez some advantage because of the said reason.
And if ever that happens, he should move up in the next division which is the bantamweight division which has more difficult boxers.

[harizen]

the required weight should not be a problem at all, because it needs work from himself and his camp. it should not be a problem at all but should focus on their strategies how to win his title back.

Unfortunately, that was the problem, reaching the required weight with no extra toll on his body.

What does this mean? His usual training regime is not enough to reach their target weight at the given time. In return, things got rushed and the moment he will now reach the required weight, he was overtrained during the process and won't be in 100% shape once he entered the ring.

But that unfortunate thing that happened during the first match should not happen twice as that was one of the key notes that his camp is trying to solve.

[Jawhead999]

And if ever that happens, he should move up in the next division which is the bantamweight division which has more difficult boxers.

As long as Inoue already become undisputed champion and there's a new vacant belts for every new boxers, bantamweight division wouldn't become hell division anymore and Ancajas can compete with the other boxers just like his legend e.g. Donaire and Casimero. But it's too early for Ancajas to move to the next weight division since he should at least get a belt in his current weight division first.

If he's failed to beat Martinez, there's other champion that he can take a challenge.

[Fredomago]

the required weight should not be a problem at all, because it needs work from himself and his camp. it should not be a problem at all but should focus on their strategies how to win his title back.

Unfortunately, that was the problem, reaching the required weight with no extra toll on his body.

What does this mean? His usual training regime is not enough to reach their target weight at the given time. In return, things got rushed and the moment he will now reach the required weight, he was overtrained during the process and won't be in 100% shape once he entered the ring.

But that unfortunate thing that happened during the first match should not happen twice as that was one of the key notes that his camp is trying to solve.

His camp understand the value of being well-prepared that last lost will serve as a good basis for better preparation, with both his weight and his conditions, it should not waste him up while maintaining his weight, Ancajas needs to reclaim his belt if he accomplished this and beats Martinez either a trilogy will happen or maybe his camp can journey up and try to challenge a much heavier division.

And if ever that happens, he should move up in the next division which is the bantamweight division which has more difficult boxers.

As long as Inoue already become undisputed champion and there's a new vacant belts for every new boxers, bantamweight division wouldn't become hell division anymore and Ancajas can compete with the other boxers just like his legend e.g. Donaire and Casimero. But it's too early for Ancajas to move to the next weight division since he should at least get a belt in his current weight division first.

If he's failed to beat Martinez, there's other champion that he can take a challenge.

Very important for Ancajas career to reclaim his belt, he's still young and can have more years to defend his title or he can venture up to challenge new champion and try to establish another belt/s, too early for that though, he should win first against Martinez and wait if what would be the next plan of his handler for him.

[Japinat]

And if ever that happens, he should move up in the next division which is the bantamweight division which has more difficult boxers.

As long as Inoue already become undisputed champion and there's a new vacant belts for every new boxers, bantamweight division wouldn't become hell division anymore and Ancajas can compete with the other boxers just like his legend e.g. Donaire and Casimero. But it's too early for Ancajas to move to the next weight division since he should at least get a belt in his current weight division first.

If he's failed to beat Martinez, there's other champion that he can take a challenge.

Yea, I forgot that Inoue was already set to fight for the undisputed title this year against Butler and then move to a higher weight class after he's done in bantamweight. In that case, maybe bantamweight will be much more suitable for Ancajas if he will still have the same problem he had in the first encounter but I'm afraid he won't meet with Donarie anymore because Donaire said that he's going down to chase the title in other division.

If he's failed to beat Martinez, there's other champion that he can take a challenge.

That's not the problem he's having, it's the same problem as Casimero. Ancajas is struggling to meet the required weight in this division that's why we speculated that maybe bantamweight might be more suitable for him. But yes, before that, let's see it first if he can overcome it this time.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, from the point of view of betting, it's something else, but I think that this time Martinez really wants to stand out and from what I've read the boxer has very good technique, at a professional level I'm sure he won't do badly, so I have seen, some give Ancajas the winner, but in my personal opinion Martinez is a clear winner for me, obviously without going through Ancajas's abilities, Martinez is a boxer who for now will be measured with a higher degree of demand, here he can discovering that there is a business model that is impressive, and the statistics are supporting it, I wonder if it goes 3:1 how it will be in less time, will the ratio increase?

On the first fight it was obvious that Martinez was the clear winner, it was not a controversial fight as even the fans of Ancajas believe that Martinez won. Well, we are now in the rematch, I'm just hoping that Ancajas will make the right adjustment so it will not again result in a one sided fight.

No debate on that, Ancajas looks exhausted in that fight, so it's time for him to bounce back by winning the fight. I know it's easier said than done but I still believe that Ancajas is capable of doing that, he work his way to become a champion, he would not give up that easily, and winning here means him becoming a champion once again.

Well, it seems that almost everyone has the same perception of Ancajas, he is a boxer who, despite everything, I think he has a lot to prove, and for me he has not rusted, what happens is that he is facing a Martinez who has a lot of motivation, in addition the boxer has been improving a lot and already has previous experience which will take place in this fight very carefully for both boxers, for me this fight will be very careful, I think both boxers will take the first rounds to take care of themselves, maybe one or another explodes with a good combination, but they will be careful because I think there could be surprises, I don't know if Martinez has in his mind to look for a knockout, that is something that Acajas has to do.

And if ever that happens, he should move up in the next division which is the bantamweight division which has more difficult boxers.

As long as Inoue already become undisputed champion and there's a new vacant belts for every new boxers, bantamweight division wouldn't become hell division anymore and Ancajas can compete with the other boxers just like his legend e.g. Donaire and Casimero. But it's too early for Ancajas to move to the next weight division since he should at least get a belt in his current weight division first.

If he's failed to beat Martinez, there's other champion that he can take a challenge.

Yea, I forgot that Inoue was already set to fight for the undisputed title this year against Butler and then move to a higher weight class after he's done in bantamweight. In that case, maybe bantamweight will be much more suitable for Ancajas if he will still have the same problem he had in the first encounter but I'm afraid he won't meet with Donarie anymore because Donaire said that he's going down to chase the title in other division.

If he's failed to beat Martinez, there's other champion that he can take a challenge.

That's not the problem he's having, it's the same problem as Casimero. Ancajas is struggling to meet the required weight in this division that's why we speculated that maybe bantamweight might be more suitable for him. But yes, before that, let's see it first if he can overcome it this time.

All the sensation is being taken by Inoue the fight with Butler, without a doubt when they move to a higher weight things get interesting in boxing, particularly for me it represents fights with a higher level and much more exciting, this is something that should be take advantage and not just me, I know that all the fans are waiting for this fight and they know that it can make a difference.

And it is as you say, Ancajas and Donaire are about to fight, and I know that they will seek to have another much higher category, the truth is that this is something that everyone wants to see level up, boxers also have a lot to do, everyone wants to enter the best fights with the highest payouts.

[Kemarit]

I just wish Jerwin is in top form and focus on his gifts and natural skills rather than attempting to brawl just to please the crowd.

That's what we definitely want to see, that way there will be no more excuses from his camp, and accept the defeat if he losses. Although I'm not thinking he will lose, but he has to be a man, accept with no excuses and move on to the next plan.

I really don't know why he become a brawler to a brawler, that is not his style and obviously we've seen that in the fight as he doesn't have response to any of Martinez attack and counter.

Of course as we support him, we don't want him to lose, but they need to prepare for the worst. His body might have problems making the contractual weight again and this might result of him not performing at optimum level in this rematch.