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July 29, 2022, 08:13:58 PM |
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Re: If Satoshi is not dead, what is he doing?
None of our business.After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress.
Bitcoin is much bigger than this forum nowadays. In particular, most development work happens off-forum; there are some leading Bitcoin Core developers who don’t even have forum accounts, insofar as I am aware. Satoshi could follow Bitcoin’s progress just fine, without ever even viewing this forum—unless, of course, he desires to read my posts. :-)Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
To the contrary: Satoshi Nakamoto is culturally forbidden from ever again using his own forum.
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July 29, 2022, 08:25:26 PM |
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
Maybe he/she/them decided to keep their self or isolate him/her/them selves for security reasons. Irrespective of that Satoshi has provided us with a lifetime saver, because Bitcoin has change so many things in this world, and has provided us with an alternative currencies that give us the control over our entire wealth.
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July 29, 2022, 08:36:58 PM |
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
I don’t think it would still matter to us as to what Satoshi is currently doing. If he’s still alive, then he must still be following the progress in bitcoin, because that’s what made him great in the first place. While enjoying a good life with his own family, Satoshi must be happy and at peace where he is right now because he has been a great inspiration to everyone, especially for those who know about the brighter future of bitcoin and has been benefiting from it for so long.
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July 29, 2022, 09:11:26 PM |
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Let's be honest, is it really that the guy is resting or the guy doesn't stay even a second without getting worried about someone knocking on his door to say: " hahaha will I finally reveal your identity?". when the person lies and lives hiding some secret, the person hardly lives in peace, the person is always hiding from the world, he always doesn't sleep properly, he always has to do things that don't attract attention. the person has no peace. no matter how many years pass the person has no peace and this is the worst nightmare, most of the time the person even gets very sick and dies While enjoying a good life with his own family, Satoshi must be happy and at peace where he is right now because he has been a great inspiration to everyone, especially for those who know about the brighter future of bitcoin and has been benefiting from it for so long.
With so many people chasing him, do you believe he is at peace? the guy lives in hiding, how can anyone have peace when thousands of people every day are investigating to know his identity?
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July 29, 2022, 09:38:04 PM |
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~ Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
If he is following the updates till now with an alt account which is highly unlikely, he would come revealed himself rather than monitoring everything behind closed doors. He chose to remain silent and as long as he wants to be in that space, there is no point in discussing about him coming back as the project has moved on in his absence for a decade and but i understand that the hunt for finding out the creator will never end ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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July 29, 2022, 10:01:29 PM |
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Whoever Satoshi might be, he will never leave the bitcoin space as long as he is alive. Satoshi is seriously into crypto (bitcoin especially). The difference is that he is not in this space as Satoshi but some other names you don't know. The internet persona called Satoshi is the one chilling, the real Satoshi isn't chilling, he is probably doing what he is passionate about, i. e Bitcoin.
It is very rare to have a creation like Bitcoin and leave it totally. He withdrew the Satoshi factor for his safety and unnecessary panics, but Satoshi is with us.
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July 30, 2022, 03:13:54 AM |
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days?
What do you think he is doing? Eating, sleeping and working. I guess leading a normal life like every other human being in this world and is super rich. It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
It is very likely that he do sometimes visit the forum like very rarely and see what's going on and how things are progressing. I don't think he would make an alt account. I bet when he said he leaves it to the community, he really did and won't interfere in any way. But still doesn't matter if he dead or alive (i mean I would be glad if he is alive lol), visiting the forum or not, has an alt account or not, it won't change anything.
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July 30, 2022, 03:35:16 AM |
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~ Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
If he is following the updates till now with an alt account which is highly unlikely, he would come revealed himself rather than monitoring everything behind closed doors. He chose to remain silent and as long as he wants to be in that space, there is no point in discussing about him coming back as the project has moved on in his absence for a decade and but i understand that the hunt for finding out the creator will never end ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . If he is alive and has chosen to go, there is no reason for him to use another account to follow us. Well, it seems like there will never be an end to the hunt for him, so I hope he never returns to the forum or makes an appearance anywhere, because that puts him in grave danger. 13 years have passed he is still silent and bitcoin has gone through many ups and downs but in the end, bitcoin overcame them all. Once again, whether he is alive or not, I would like to express my deep gratitude to him.
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July 30, 2022, 04:33:33 AM |
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
Who knows Satoshi might be there somewhere and observing everyone? Or he is one among your friends. As no one has really known or seen who was Satoshi, or even Satoshi was a group of people or not, makes everyone curious. Nevertheless we should allow him live his life peacefully, and enjoy his greatest invention. I guess Satoshi had made a revolutionary change for which people will be always greatful to him. We all are Satoshi Nakamoto ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Even if he's having a look on the forum from some alt account we can't know it because he knows how to maintain his anonymity so we don't need to worry about these things at all and live him wherever he is and use bitcoin with the normal routine.
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
If satoshi was not dead, he would have been in front of public and telling that he is the one who invested bitcoin. But since he is dead, he is no more with us. Are you serious? He was gone when Gavin Andresen went to the CIA. Simply no. Satoshi made sure to have a few extra steps to hide his real identity. He probably changed the style he wrote code, talked to himself with different accounts in the forum, and changed his writing style. He would have also destroyed his own reputation. I would never believe anyone who developed such a digital currency like bitcoin would ever want to remain anonymous when he can be hero of the world if everyone's knows him.
Satoshi did.
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
It doesn't matter what Satoshi is doing now and everyone should just be happy that he blessed the world with the concept of the blockchain. Decentralized currency is a radical idea which still has many improvements to come, efforts should be spent on that rather than trying to track down an elusive founder who clearly doesn't have any interest in publicity for whatever reason. If they have not surfaced by now, it's highly likely that they will never surface again and frankly that adds to part of the charm. Somebody out their put the project infront of their own selfish desire to gain fame, which is surprisingly rare in the current age where everyone is desperately trying to become the next big D-list "celebrity".
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He's having fun on Twitter.
:-(We all know he has close to 1 Million of bitcoins Nobody knows this, but he. Satoshi was talking to mailing list prior the announcement of the very first release. Bitcoin.org was registered on August 2008, and released the binaries at about few months later. He, sure, took advantage of the lowest difficulty, but so did others. If we somehow knew he was mining alone for the first x thousands blocks, we could make a safe assumption, but he wasn't. Your conclusion (“nobody knows this”) is correct, but your line of reasoning is not. Satoshi inserted into the coinbase of Block 0 the famous newspaper headline, “ The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks”—a real headline about real-world events, from a real-world newspaper of which there are extant original hardcopies. In the overall circumstance, this is strong evidence that Satoshi did not premine anything before 3 January 2009. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fen.bitcoin.it%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fen%2F1%2F1d%2FJonny1000thetimes.png&t=665&c=SqnWpip1v1865g) Furthermore, Hal attested that he did some mining starting around “block 70-something”. Thus, there were multiple known miners almost straight from the beginning—and the software was published and announced in well-known cryptography venues (starting with a mailing list that I myself used to subscribe to and read regularly), so anyone could have been mining anonymously. But that is beside the point here. The user who claimed that “we all know he has close to 1 Million of bitcoins” is spreading an urban legend. I could excuse a newbie who just heard something dumb in the mass-media; but there is no excuse for a 2014-registered account to be spreading this trash. Nobody but Satoshi knows how many coins Satoshi mined. There is a very large quantity of 2009-era coins apparently/probably from a unique source, the so-called “Patoshi” coins; the technical evidence suggests that they are probably not Satoshi’s, although nobody can prove that, either.
If satoshi was not dead, he would have been in front of public and telling that he is the one who invested bitcoin. But since he is dead, he is no more with us.
Are you serious? He was gone when Gavin Andresen went to the CIA. Simply no. [...good reasoning...]Unfortunately, that is probably a popular belief. People often project onto others their own desires to be a celebrity, like a movie star. And this type of fallacious thinking opens the way for imposters like CSW: Imposters exploit the widespread assumption that of course, if Satoshi is alive, he will reveal himself! I would never believe anyone who developed such a digital currency like bitcoin would ever want to remain anonymous when he can be hero of the world if everyone's knows him.
Satoshi did. Good point, but... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgs.xkcd.com%2Fcomics%2Fduty_calls.png&t=665&c=aUwvPmcvpo6sLg)
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July 30, 2022, 11:29:14 AM |
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If satoshi was not dead, he would have been in front of public and telling that he is the one who invested bitcoin. But since he is dead, he is no more with us.
Are you serious? He was gone when Gavin Andresen went to the CIA. Simply no. [...good reasoning...]Unfortunately, that is probably a popular belief. People often project onto others their own desires to be a celebrity, like a movie star. And this type of fallacious thinking opens the way for imposters like CSW: Imposters exploit the widespread assumption that of course, if Satoshi is alive, he will reveal himself! I would never believe anyone who developed such a digital currency like bitcoin would ever want to remain anonymous when he can be hero of the world if everyone's knows him.
Satoshi did. Good point, but... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgs.xkcd.com%2Fcomics%2Fduty_calls.png&t=665&c=aUwvPmcvpo6sLg) Hahaha. We may have different opinions on the matter, but I believe that someone is indeed wrong on the internet. Another reason I believe why Satoshi would never ever reveal his real identity is, he might be working for a technology company when he was coding the first implementations of Bitcoin. Isn't there a law that says any software, or invention you develop while under employment in a company will automatically give the patents/rights of that software/invention to that company?
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July 30, 2022, 11:52:22 AM |
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Even if he's having a look on the forum from some alt account we can't know it because he knows how to maintain his anonymity so we don't need to worry about these things at all and live him wherever he is and use bitcoin with the normal routine.
Exactly, not unless if he still sound familiar by using some technical words then people here can suspect that account very easy. Also anyone can still access the forum without needing to register or login to an account, so if someone is really conscious about his privacy then they can just browse the forum anonymously but yeah, why are we going to chase satoshi? What can we get after knowing his true identity? I think that will only be a waste of time for us. Bitcoin is not in trouble and even the price dumps a lot, I don't think the creator will care. What he know is that he already did his job and it's now up to us if how do we use his creation.
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July 30, 2022, 08:49:01 PM |
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After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
There’s no reason for Satoshi to come back since it won’t also do nothing to bitcoin. It’s better to see him having his own peace of mind being away from the spotlight. Well, if he’s still alive these days, most likely he’s also living a great life with a great family business. Bitcoin is a living proof that Satoshi has an exceptional way of thinking ideas, so might as well use it in his own advantage.
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July 31, 2022, 12:15:48 AM |
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[...] Good point, but... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgs.xkcd.com%2Fcomics%2Fduty_calls.png&t=665&c=aUwvPmcvpo6sLg) Hahaha. We may have different opinions on the matter, but I believe that someone is indeed wrong on the internet. No, I agreed with what you had said before. Please reread. My perspective, trying to put myself in Satoshi’s shoes: If I had created Bitcoin, I would be mortally terrified of being outed. Maybe I would consider a digitally signed “deathbed confession”, or evidence released on a deadman’s switch, so that I could be remembered by history—or maybe not; why would it be important to be remembered by a so-called “real name”, instead of by a self-chosen pseudonym? I guess that such a decision would probably depend on the details of Satoshi’s life; and even outing himself when dead may place his heirs at risk. Anyway, I understand why Satoshi may want to preserve his privacy. Another reason I believe why Satoshi would never ever reveal his real identity is, he might be working for a technology company when he was coding the first implementations of Bitcoin. Isn't there a law that says any software, or invention you develop while under employment in a company will automatically give the patents/rights of that software/invention to that company?
No. To your question, absolutely not! Do you suppose that an open-source patch contributed to some project by an employee off-the-job is always, in all cases automatically copyrighted by the employee’s $DAYJOB? You seem to be thinking of the “works for hire” doctrine. That generally applies only to works made within the scope of employment. The details, extent, and limitations of this rule (or even whether it applies at all) vary wildly by jurisdiction. I note that we have no idea where Satoshi was located at the time that he created Bitcoin, and any clues he left may be intentional disinformation of the type that I myself not infrequently sow. (His apparently Japanese name, his use of a British newspaper headline in Block 0, his alternation of British and American spelling—even “his” use of an apparently masculine pseudonym and online persona.) As a precondition of employment, some employers require an employee’s agreement to an employment contract that greatly extends the scope of what “intellectual property” the employer can claim as theirs. Some jurisdictions have laws limiting such contracts. This is a very complicated area of the law. Nothing that I say here should be construed as legal advice. I only seek hereby to show that the broad-brush statement quoted above is incorrect on its face. I would not want inadvertently to FUD Bitcoin’s status in this regard.
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You won’t believe this and ignore and move on. But he did a complete back flip from BTC, He started a business in the Phillipines called Tagcash. Seek and ye shall find the evidence.
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—even “his” use of an apparently masculine pseudonym and online persona.) This can be the only reason that almosteveryone refers to Satoshi as "him". I find it curious when people point out the obvious in that the identity of Satoshi is unknown but yet continue to assume it as him, I know its more than likely something that happens automatically ↓After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.
Satoshi could indeed still be active on this forum and the first place Satoshi would have gone back to and could still be active in is the "Development and Technical Discussion" board! But yea until officially discounted anything is possible.
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