If Satoshi is not dead, what is he doing?

[Wind_FURY]

Another reason I believe why Satoshi would never ever reveal his real identity is, he might be working for a technology company when he was coding the first implementations of Bitcoin. Isn't there a law that says any software, or invention you develop while under employment in a company will automatically give the patents/rights of that software/invention to that company?

No.  To your question, absolutely not!  Do you suppose that an open-source patch contributed to some project by an employee off-the-job is always, in all cases automatically copyrighted by the employee’s $DAYJOB?

You seem to be thinking of the “works for hire” doctrine.  That generally applies only to works made within the scope of employment.  The details, extent, and limitations of this rule (or even whether it applies at all) vary wildly by jurisdiction.

I note that we have no idea where Satoshi was located at the time that he created Bitcoin, and any clues he left may be intentional disinformation of the type that I myself not infrequently sow.  (His apparently Japanese name, his use of a British newspaper headline in Block 0, his alternation of British and American spelling—even “his” use of an apparently masculine pseudonym and online persona.)

As a precondition of employment, some employers require an employee’s agreement to an employment contract that greatly extends the scope of what “intellectual property” the employer can claim as theirs.  Some jurisdictions have laws limiting such contracts.  This is a very complicated area of the law.

Nothing that I say here should be construed as legal advice.  I only seek hereby to show that the broad-brush statement quoted above is incorrect on its face.  I would not want inadvertently to FUD Bitcoin’s status in this regard.

I remembered a story about Steve Wozniak, who invented the Apple 1 while he was under the employment of HP. Before Steve Jobs, and him can start Apple, Steve Wozniak was required to have the permission of HP to be given the absolute rights to start building the Apple 1.

It might be good to have a lawyer to clarify it for us, or a Bitcoin developer who knows something about Intellectual Property.

I'm just having shower thoughts that what if Satoshi worked for a Fintech company?

[franky1]

After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days?

breathing, walking, talking, sitting, standing, sleeping.

if not dead then breathing is essential and something he definitely doing all the time
as for the rest, well thats speculation, he might be doing some of them all the time, all of them some of the time, able to do all or some, no one here knows, nor should need to know

It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress.

just to read/look at progress. anyone can do that without 'getting involved' its called open source for a reason
just open a web browser and all the information is there. no need to get involved just to read/look at progress

Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.

now your entering the speculation zone. he didnt need an alt account. people can read posts and github code without accounts

[wallet4bitcoin]

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, talking, sitting, standing, sleeping.

if not dead then breathing is essential and something he definitely doing all the time
as for the rest, well thats speculation, he might be doing some of them all the time, all of them some of the time, able to do all or some, no one here knows, nor should need to know

Correct, it's not important to know what he's doing. If he doesn't want to come out in public, no problem. We should give them a rest.  Bitcoin is important, not what he's doing. There are many reasons for not coming out, it is said that he is a great inventor, if he does come out he might be forced to do something wrong, There are many dishonest people around us, it is not impossible to be forced by them. not sure just my opinion.

[nullama]

What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress.

Supposing that Satoshi is a "he" first of all, No one has been able to place the correct gender of satoshi or even if it's a group. Not that his current activities should be of any concern to us, but certainly Satoshi is not idol, to think of it, Satoshi may still very much be in observation of bitcoins from a distance, it is difficult, i think impossible to create something as innovative as bitcoins and just abandon it without keeping watch or checking on it once in a while.

Well, all we have is probabilities for this, as we don't know for sure.

Given that the vast majority of people involved in tech are men, and that the vast majority of people involved in Bitcoin in the early days were men, then it follows that most probably Satoshi was/is a man.

Of course it can be a woman, but that would be unlikely.

[Amnuazka]

Why he still hiding?

[Reatim]

After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.

Monitoring us? maybe he is one of those posting here that has deeper knowledge about Bitcoin and its functions ? who really knows?

if he is truly alive then surely he will never let down this market and will keep doing what would be the better for everyone .

also maybe he remains silent because in that way? bitcoin made its way up to this because if there is a continues updating from him then maybe the government already took over this place.

[TheNineClub]

After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.

He's probably playing chees on his Bengal tiger on his BTC-built compound on Mars. JK. Everything stated is under the assumption that it's one person, and it might be a collective. A collective of cryptographers and hackers that wanted to do something different. And if you know anything about that generation of hackers is that they probably wouldn't live extraordinary lifestyles (cashing all of their BTC) because they just did it as an experiment and for the love of it.

[nullius]

Another reason I believe why Satoshi would never ever reveal his real identity is, he might be working for a technology company when he was coding the first implementations of Bitcoin. Isn't there a law that says any software, or invention you develop while under employment in a company will automatically give the patents/rights of that software/invention to that company?

No.  To your question, absolutely not!  Do you suppose that an open-source patch contributed to some project by an employee off-the-job is always, in all cases automatically copyrighted by the employee’s $DAYJOB?

You seem to be thinking of the “works for hire” doctrine.  [...]

I remembered a story about Steve Wozniak, who invented the Apple 1 while he was under the employment of HP. Before Steve Jobs, and him can start Apple, Steve Wozniak was required to have the permission of HP to be given the absolute rights to start building the Apple 1.

I do not know the situation of which you speak; but merely from your description, that sounds like it could have been a non-compete clause.  And more generally, as I gently implied in my prior post, some employees have ridiculously weird contracts with their employers.

I am quite confident that there is no such thing as a “law” in every potentially relevant jurisdiction “automatically” giving employers some sort of “intellectual property” rights to all of their employees’ off-the-job creations.  (And if there were such a thing, then the open-source software movement would be a practical impossibility!)

I'm just having shower thoughts that what if Satoshi worked for a Fintech company?

Why speculate on something which is likely irrelevant, for which there is no evidence?

Nothing that I say here should be construed as legal advice.  I only seek hereby to show that the broad-brush statement quoted above is incorrect on its face.  I would not want inadvertently to FUD Bitcoin’s status in this regard.

[GeorgeJohn]

Are you sure Satoshi is dead? in your sentence saying "if satoshi is not dead" means you already know satoshi is dead by now i want to ask from what evidence satoshi is dead or you find any clear source about satoshi is dead please share with us.

Op just made he or her opinion by emphasising that Satoshi is dead, so from the basic information content their is no vlear evidence that indicates that Satoshi Nakamoto is no more in existence. I believe that if Satoshi is no more few members of this noble institution would have be known. Maybe i think saying that Bitcoin is dead is just is applicable by someone who said that Satoshi is no more

[Cookdata]

After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.

I'm very sure that if Satoshi should resurface and prove that he is alive, a lot of things are going to happen which will not end well for everyone in the market, have you noticed that anytime an old wallet addresses that were last active in 10 years back spend a single bitcoin, traders began to speculate and sell or close their position because they fear that he(satoshi) will dump his bags on them to gain access to the liquidity.
Another reason why I think satoshi might want to remain anonymous could also be because the government will want him, they will want to hear a lot of answers, it is better things remain like this, not as if he did bitcoin alone, there has been lots of improvement since he was last seen online.

[Vaculin]

After reading so many topics that discuss who satoshi could be and why he would leave bitcoin from one day to another it made me think: What is he doing these days? It is really unlikely that he never ever came back to the forum again, just to read and look at the progress. Also it seems likely that he had at least one alt account that may even be sill active.

If Satoshi is still alive right now, probably he’s very proud of his own investment that is giving a lot of opportunities to create profits for everyone. He must be peacefully living with his grandkids these days or he must be somewhere in a luxury place chilling with his loved ones. Or maybe, he is also busy managing his own business because we know he has a brilliant mind from the start.

[ChiBitCTy]

Who the heck knows really. If I had to guess, I think they are likely lurking around on this forum from time to time and are likely working on another new project. Perhaps something having to do with smart contracts (something Satoshi refers to in his escrow thread). Either way, thank you Satoshi regardless of whatever you’re doing !

[BITCOIN4X]

I'm very sure that if Satoshi should resurface and prove that he is alive, a lot of things are going to happen which will not end well for everyone in the market, have you noticed that anytime an old wallet addresses that were last active in 10 years back spend a single bitcoin, traders began to speculate and sell or close their position because they fear that he(satoshi) will dump his bags on them to gain access to the liquidity.

I wonder if that will happen to bitcoin in the future. LOL
We're just assuming, if satoshi was alive, he would laugh at how worried we are about his life status out there with his bag full of bitcoin. Some developers are happy to have him back, but neither for investors or traders.

Another reason why I think satoshi might want to remain anonymous could also be because the government will want him, they will want to hear a lot of answers, it is better things remain like this, not as if he did bitcoin alone, there has been lots of improvement since he was last seen online.

Obviously, he's going to be interrogated for days somewhere just because the government wants to get a way to make bitcoin centralized.

[lalabotax]

Here the question should be:

If he is alive why he haven't spend his coins... That's the tricky part about this topic. We all know he has close to 1 Million of bitcoins, and not a single Satoshi has moved, so, the only logic reason for that is he is not anymore with us.

Another thing that makes me think he is not alive is the fact that Craig is doing all his shit. And if Satoshi wants he could destroy Craig in any moment he wants. But he didn't.

Do you think he is dead already?
I'm sure Satoshi should have a plan for the worst situation in his life. He is the creator of BTC, he must think that he will die someday and he probably makes a plan to give access to those BTC to someone trusted by him. But he must give the message that never spends the Bitcoin until Bitcoin reaches its goal.

Regarding Craig, I think Satoshi doesn't care about him. Satoshi doesn't need to destroy Craig, Craig destroys himself. 

[Lambent]

Nobody has any idea if he is still alive or not. If he is still alive, he is probably surprised as to how his small idea has managed to capture the attention of people all over the globe.

[worle1bm]

Exactly, not unless if he still sound familiar by using some technical words then people here can suspect that account very easy. Also anyone can still access the forum without needing to register or login to an account, so if someone is really conscious about his privacy then they can just browse the forum anonymously but yeah, why are we going to chase satoshi? What can we get after knowing his true identity?

I think that will only be a  waste of time for us. Bitcoin is not in trouble and even the price dumps a lot, I don't think the creator will care. What he know is that he already did his job and it's now up to us if how do we use his creation.

There are many who can use such technical words understanding about the working of bitcoin and you can see some high rank technical members have full knowledge about them so it's hard to judge from words or writing style but what is the need of all this? He wish to remain silent and leave the space on his own or due to some other reasons but bitcoin is still the same in his absence also so why we are always running behind these matters?

[nullama]

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There are many who can use such technical words understanding about the working of bitcoin and you can see some high rank technical members have full knowledge about them so it's hard to judge from words or writing style but what is the need of all this? He wish to remain silent and leave the space on his own or due to some other reasons but bitcoin is still the same in his absence also so why we are always running behind these matters?

Yeah, I agree.

I can understand some level of curiosity, specially for new people, but some are just obsessed with this.

Bitcoin is way larger than its creator, it doesn't really matter if Satoshi is alive or dead, or if he suddenly reappears. Bitcoin has had a life on it's own for more than a decade now.

I wonder why there are no people obsessed to know about the inventor of email, TCP-IP, or any other protocol we use daily now.

[Cannabijoy]

I like to think Satoshi is alive. He put the 1MB block size limit, which made Bitcoin ultra-secure. I believe he didn’t realize at the time what this meant, but once he saw it, he decided to leave the core principles of Bitcoin alone.

This is why his wallet hasn’t been touched. Satoshi knows that Bitcoin is the greatest store of value in the history of mankind. Why would he trade his Bitcoin for fiat dollars?

I like to think he is still working to make Bitcoin better. He now uses his real name, and nobody knows that he is Satoshi. There are many reasons why he would want to keep his identity a secret. Mostly because it would make Bitcoin feel less decentralized (although there is absolutely no way to stop it’s decentralization at this point). This was the main downfall of all the internet money that came before Bitcoin. Adam Back talks about this in his interview with Robert Breedlove.

I hope Satoshi is making billions of dollars, and has no need to sell his Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the strongest property right humans beings have ever obtained.

[harapan]

I honestly don’t care what’s he’s doing with his time and I wish people would let him be. If he wanted to be known and recognized, he would have done that already but he has decided to remain anonymous and I think we should respect his wishes. Personally, I think that his anonymity has helped to grow and sustain bitcoin in a way.
I’m honestly glad for his innovations that has helped millions of people(i included)around the world today and if he chooses to remain anonymous( as he clearly has) then, I think we should let him be and not float baseless speculations everywhere

[MinoRaiola]

If he is really just one person, he will not be able to forget his masterwork. He will be with it every day, in his own way. He will have more accounts, which is what rich people do to have more peace in life. For those who need attention, they use social media. He will be very smart and not take advantage of his authority, when he will, he would have done it already. All this is possible, when he is still alive.