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December 21, 2022, 07:42:05 PM
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New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.
The new casino rules will benefit the users because they don't apply KYC and other things that make it easier to create anonymous accounts, but you have to consider the reputation and security of the new casinos and many cases of fraud start from the new casinos which offer attractive offers for new users but

Avoiding KYC regulations is not a solution to getting involved in new casinos whose reputation and security cannot be verified, new casinos are still prone to scams because there is no guarantee that new casinos without KYC rules can be trusted.

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December 22, 2022, 05:30:30 AM
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usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.

It is that a casino that does not ask for KYC cannot be considered a scam, that is something that can be left aside, there are some casinos and platforms that are very famous and have free KYC, and they are platforms that have good faucets, this It is what makes these platforms great, most of the casinos that are new have good things, but when they offer a lot of free things or too many things that are very good, people are always suspicious because it can turn out to be a trap, and that is very true because I have witnessed how a casino can sometimes deceive many players and they do not pay them or do anything like that to comply.

But now it seems that crypto casinos have started implementing KYC for their members, and although KYC is still randomly selecting their members, it might become more strict in the future. But if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, it's possible that it still allows its members to play without verifying their accounts. But someday, its members must be ready if asked to do KYC. And those of us who are used to looking up casinos from these forums will surely know which casinos implement KYC. New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.


"MAY NOT" implement KYC. Does the casino say clearly that "THEY WON'T" implement KYC in their Terms of Service? That's perhaps why there are many users in the forum/community who are forced to make brand new accounts to keep their anonymity/privacy, and then make accusations about the casino not letting them withdraw because the casino actually starts implementing KYC.

maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

and does this casino have an ANN thread here,


Plus does the casino have a campaign maintained by a reputable user, or simply validated as trustowrthy by many reputable users.

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December 22, 2022, 06:02:59 AM
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New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.
The new casino rules will benefit the users because they don't apply KYC and other things that make it easier to create anonymous accounts, but you have to consider the reputation and security of the new casinos and many cases of fraud start from the new casinos which offer attractive offers for new users but

Avoiding KYC regulations is not a solution to getting involved in new casinos whose reputation and security cannot be verified, new casinos are still prone to scams because there is no guarantee that new casinos without KYC rules can be trusted.
That's why I don't like using the new casino to play gambling because I'm worried about fraud cases committed by the new casino. Even though it might benefit us since we are early adopters in the casino, it's still not worth it. But if the casino can provide other evidence that can be used as material for our consideration to play safely at their place, maybe we can try to use the casino as a place to play gambling. But we also have to know not to use too much money for gambling because we are still in the trial and error stage to determine how the casino will perform. And we really have to avoid casinos like that so we don't get involved in fraud cases that often happen to many people.
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December 22, 2022, 07:01:29 PM
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usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.

It is that a casino that does not ask for KYC cannot be considered a scam, that is something that can be left aside, there are some casinos and platforms that are very famous and have free KYC, and they are platforms that have good faucets, this It is what makes these platforms great, most of the casinos that are new have good things, but when they offer a lot of free things or too many things that are very good, people are always suspicious because it can turn out to be a trap, and that is very true because I have witnessed how a casino can sometimes deceive many players and they do not pay them or do anything like that to comply.

But now it seems that crypto casinos have started implementing KYC for their members, and although KYC is still randomly selecting their members, it might become more strict in the future. But if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, it's possible that it still allows its members to play without verifying their accounts. But someday, its members must be ready if asked to do KYC. And those of us who are used to looking up casinos from these forums will surely know which casinos implement KYC. New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.

It is like the famous phrase of Blessed are those who are wisely chosen not to present KYC, I do have blood to be asked for KYC and sometimes it is a bit annoying, firstly because my papers that I present are not in my name because I live in a residence, it's not in my own home, so sometimes they push back my documentation and complying and looking for more requirements to be in another country is very difficult, when they put up with all those things I prefer not to be in that casino, simple , I go to another, and that is what happens with the majority of players, they prefer to go to other casinos.

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December 23, 2022, 03:20:18 PM
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usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.

It is that a casino that does not ask for KYC cannot be considered a scam, that is something that can be left aside, there are some casinos and platforms that are very famous and have free KYC, and they are platforms that have good faucets, this It is what makes these platforms great, most of the casinos that are new have good things, but when they offer a lot of free things or too many things that are very good, people are always suspicious because it can turn out to be a trap, and that is very true because I have witnessed how a casino can sometimes deceive many players and they do not pay them or do anything like that to comply.

But now it seems that crypto casinos have started implementing KYC for their members, and although KYC is still randomly selecting their members, it might become more strict in the future. But if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, it's possible that it still allows its members to play without verifying their accounts. But someday, its members must be ready if asked to do KYC. And those of us who are used to looking up casinos from these forums will surely know which casinos implement KYC. New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.

It is like the famous phrase of Blessed are those who are wisely chosen not to present KYC, I do have blood to be asked for KYC and sometimes it is a bit annoying, firstly because my papers that I present are not in my name because I live in a residence, it's not in my own home, so sometimes they push back my documentation and complying and looking for more requirements to be in another country is very difficult, when they put up with all those things I prefer not to be in that casino, simple , I go to another, and that is what happens with the majority of players, they prefer to go to other casinos.

If that's the case for you, maybe you need to find another reputable casino that doesn't ask for KYC or if you want to play gambling, don't use big money because so far, gamblers who use big money are asked to do KYC. But the casino can change the rules if the regulators ask for them to be changed, and the casinos can only comply. I think if we only play gambling with small money, we don't need to do KYC, especially if we play only occasionally, and it's different from other people who play almost daily. Hopefully, the casinos hear us as small gamblers, so they don't ask us to do KYC in the future.
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December 24, 2022, 07:25:52 PM
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New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.
The new casino rules will benefit the users because they don't apply KYC and other things that make it easier to create anonymous accounts, but you have to consider the reputation and security of the new casinos and many cases of fraud start from the new casinos which offer attractive offers for new users but

Avoiding KYC regulations is not a solution to getting involved in new casinos whose reputation and security cannot be verified, new casinos are still prone to scams because there is no guarantee that new casinos without KYC rules can be trusted.
That's why I don't like using the new casino to play gambling because I'm worried about fraud cases committed by the new casino. Even though it might benefit us since we are early adopters in the casino, it's still not worth it. But if the casino can provide other evidence that can be used as material for our consideration to play safely at their place, maybe we can try to use the casino as a place to play gambling. But we also have to know not to use too much money for gambling because we are still in the trial and error stage to determine how the casino will perform. And we really have to avoid casinos like that so we don't get involved in fraud cases that often happen to many people.


That is very true, now it cannot be surprising that there are many casinos that are completely asking for KYC, either at the entrance (Registration) or when a withdrawal is made, in the same way I think that now the whole trend will be towards that, no we have to fight a lot or go against the tide, and that is something that is very difficult, either due to the requirement of the licenses or for the casino to have more authenticity, and so that it is always with the legal bases according to the country where the casino operates. Some people who always seek to have more good things, or more benefits in a casino, sometimes this is the price they must pay.


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December 27, 2022, 09:31:02 AM
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usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.


A centralized entity claiming to "never" require KYC should be taken with doubt, cynicism, and distrust. Because in actuality, centralized entities/casinos, if they are legitimate, have already accepted the trade-offs that they do indeed should require KYC on their users to comply with anti-money laundering laws. No service can go around it, except if they build their casinos on top of the Bitcoin blockchain like DirectBet did.
Once, 7-8 years ago, no one needed any KYC, and all transactions in cryptocurrency on a deposit in a casino or from a casino account to a player’s wallet went through without problems. 
 
These were glorious times when no one asked you to take a picture of your face with a piece of paper with today's date or keep some kind of your document next to your face.  And take pictures like that too.  All this is actually just a damn theater of the absurd, invented by the banking lobby of American bankers.  Bankers who put the whole world on shitty loans and mortgages.  And now they are watching the owners of cryptocurrencies.  Of course, legislators require the introduction of KYC from large online casinos.  And they, of course, are law-abiding citizens and cannot refuse.  Even though these casinos are losing most of their customers - players who cannot or do not want to lose their anonymity.  And there can be many reasons to remain anonymous in gambling.  From problems in the family to problems at work.  And even with the tax authorities.  And by the way, players from a number of countries cannot play calmly when they are required to KYC. 

And you have to play in those casinos where KYC is not required.  And everyone is happy.  And the number of scams is not increasing

So deceit and blatant lies are all anti-money laundering.


Post a list that contains those casinos that, have a thread of their own in BitcoinTalk, that have the trust of the community, and that clearly indicates in their TOS that they won't ask for KYC.

I believe all of the most trusted casinos in the forum will ask many users for KYC after a period of time. It's merely a trade-off accepted because it's a requirment from the government.
Well, of course, this is a requirement of the government, and even more, now the banking magnates of the world are already inscribing this damn requirement into the legislation of most countries of the world.  And they try to keep everyone on a "short leash" like dogs.  In which case, once, and, sit, "once" do not yelp, be silent * pay, otherwise, we will take away housing, cars, and hurt, if you lost a lot, spent too much.  Total control is a disgusting thing.  I say that with the introduction of KYC in cryptocurrency casinos, everything is under control again, which contradicts the very essence of Satoshi Nakamoto's invention.   Angry

Now 14 years have passed, and everything has been ruined again with the mandatory introduction of kyc identification in cryptocurrency transactions with casinos and other institutions.

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December 28, 2022, 04:34:40 AM
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usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.

It is that a casino that does not ask for KYC cannot be considered a scam, that is something that can be left aside, there are some casinos and platforms that are very famous and have free KYC, and they are platforms that have good faucets, this It is what makes these platforms great, most of the casinos that are new have good things, but when they offer a lot of free things or too many things that are very good, people are always suspicious because it can turn out to be a trap, and that is very true because I have witnessed how a casino can sometimes deceive many players and they do not pay them or do anything like that to comply.

But now it seems that crypto casinos have started implementing KYC for their members, and although KYC is still randomly selecting their members, it might become more strict in the future. But if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, it's possible that it still allows its members to play without verifying their accounts. But someday, its members must be ready if asked to do KYC. And those of us who are used to looking up casinos from these forums will surely know which casinos implement KYC. New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.

It is like the famous phrase of Blessed are those who are wisely chosen not to present KYC, I do have blood to be asked for KYC and sometimes it is a bit annoying, firstly because my papers that I present are not in my name because I live in a residence, it's not in my own home, so sometimes they push back my documentation and complying and looking for more requirements to be in another country is very difficult, when they put up with all those things I prefer not to be in that casino, simple , I go to another, and that is what happens with the majority of players, they prefer to go to other casinos.

If that's the case for you, maybe you need to find another reputable casino that doesn't ask for KYC or if you want to play gambling, don't use big money because so far, gamblers who use big money are asked to do KYC. But the casino can change the rules if the regulators ask for them to be changed, and the casinos can only comply. I think if we only play gambling with small money, we don't need to do KYC, especially if we play only occasionally, and it's different from other people who play almost daily. Hopefully, the casinos hear us as small gamblers, so they don't ask us to do KYC in the future.
I used to play on one of the well-known casino sites.
And indeed, when I registered and deposited a small amount, I was not asked to make a KYC.
However, after a while, I was able to collect winning money from betting in a fairly large amount. However, the site still asked to make a KYC when I withdrew all the money that was in the casino's wallet.
I don't know why this could happen and after thinking about it logically, indeed creating KYC can actually provide benefits for its users because it can provide security for every user and also the casino owner.

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December 28, 2022, 02:34:27 PM
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New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.
The new casino rules will benefit the users because they don't apply KYC and other things that make it easier to create anonymous accounts, but you have to consider the reputation and security of the new casinos and many cases of fraud start from the new casinos which offer attractive offers for new users but

Avoiding KYC regulations is not a solution to getting involved in new casinos whose reputation and security cannot be verified, new casinos are still prone to scams because there is no guarantee that new casinos without KYC rules can be trusted.
That's why I don't like using the new casino to play gambling because I'm worried about fraud cases committed by the new casino. Even though it might benefit us since we are early adopters in the casino, it's still not worth it. But if the casino can provide other evidence that can be used as material for our consideration to play safely at their place, maybe we can try to use the casino as a place to play gambling. But we also have to know not to use too much money for gambling because we are still in the trial and error stage to determine how the casino will perform. And we really have to avoid casinos like that so we don't get involved in fraud cases that often happen to many people.


That is very true, now it cannot be surprising that there are many casinos that are completely asking for KYC, either at the entrance (Registration) or when a withdrawal is made, in the same way I think that now the whole trend will be towards that, no we have to fight a lot or go against the tide, and that is something that is very difficult, either due to the requirement of the licenses or for the casino to have more authenticity, and so that it is always with the legal bases according to the country where the casino operates. Some people who always seek to have more good things, or more benefits in a casino, sometimes this is the price they must pay.
We will not be able to go against the grain by not wanting to do KYC at the casinos where we often gamble. Casinos can immediately close their accounts that want to avoid following their rules because they are also required to follow the rules of the regulator. Many of us want to avoid getting into trouble at casinos and keep looking for other casinos that can provide comfort in playing because that can make us stay there. But sometimes, some don't agree with the KYC implemented before this KYC trend emerged, making them look for other casinos.

usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.

It is that a casino that does not ask for KYC cannot be considered a scam, that is something that can be left aside, there are some casinos and platforms that are very famous and have free KYC, and they are platforms that have good faucets, this It is what makes these platforms great, most of the casinos that are new have good things, but when they offer a lot of free things or too many things that are very good, people are always suspicious because it can turn out to be a trap, and that is very true because I have witnessed how a casino can sometimes deceive many players and they do not pay them or do anything like that to comply.

But now it seems that crypto casinos have started implementing KYC for their members, and although KYC is still randomly selecting their members, it might become more strict in the future. But if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, it's possible that it still allows its members to play without verifying their accounts. But someday, its members must be ready if asked to do KYC. And those of us who are used to looking up casinos from these forums will surely know which casinos implement KYC. New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.

It is like the famous phrase of Blessed are those who are wisely chosen not to present KYC, I do have blood to be asked for KYC and sometimes it is a bit annoying, firstly because my papers that I present are not in my name because I live in a residence, it's not in my own home, so sometimes they push back my documentation and complying and looking for more requirements to be in another country is very difficult, when they put up with all those things I prefer not to be in that casino, simple , I go to another, and that is what happens with the majority of players, they prefer to go to other casinos.

If that's the case for you, maybe you need to find another reputable casino that doesn't ask for KYC or if you want to play gambling, don't use big money because so far, gamblers who use big money are asked to do KYC. But the casino can change the rules if the regulators ask for them to be changed, and the casinos can only comply. I think if we only play gambling with small money, we don't need to do KYC, especially if we play only occasionally, and it's different from other people who play almost daily. Hopefully, the casinos hear us as small gamblers, so they don't ask us to do KYC in the future.
I used to play on one of the well-known casino sites.
And indeed, when I registered and deposited a small amount, I was not asked to make a KYC.
However, after a while, I was able to collect winning money from betting in a fairly large amount. However, the site still asked to make a KYC when I withdrew all the money that was in the casino's wallet.
I don't know why this could happen and after thinking about it logically, indeed creating KYC can actually provide benefits for its users because it can provide security for every user and also the casino owner.

That's true, and some casinos still allow us to remain a little gambler, and as long as we don't cross the limits set, the casinos won't check our account either. They may ask it one day, but we can hope it will not happen for little gamblers. And if we get comfort and security while at the casino, we can continue doing KYC so that we can get all the facilities from the casino for those who have already verified.
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December 28, 2022, 05:15:54 PM
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That's true, and some casinos still allow us to remain a little gambler, and as long as we don't cross the limits set, the casinos won't check our account either. They may ask it one day, but we can hope it will not happen for little gamblers. And if we get comfort and security while at the casino, we can continue doing KYC so that we can get all the facilities from the casino for those who have already verified.
All casinos should be able to accept us as little gamblers, because we are both customers and users of the business they run.
If each casino only accepts professional gamblers with high betting amounts, it is certain that the casino will lose many users.
Inside the casino itself there are thousands or even millions of users consisting of small gamblers and big gamblers. So casino managers must remain fair and sporty towards every gambler.
(Even when it comes to bonuses, it is true that bonuses will be given in larger amounts to those who already have a very large number of bets).

Maybe the casino will still check the suspected account even though the account has done KYC. Whether it's suspicion about the deposit amount being only a small amount but when withdrawing a large amount or other suspicions, we as users ourselves don't know anything about it.

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December 28, 2022, 06:33:06 PM
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I don't trust website, I have used Predict888.com - where I bet on any crypto asset movement & won Bitcoin. I have claimed there 150% deposit bonus also. You may check our this as BTC365.com doesn't seem a great project.

If so, why don't you share screenshots of your winnings in predicting the price of predict888.com in the corresponding topic that you created about this platform and what does it have to do with Chinese bookmakers ?

Well, I have always been a fan of Chinese games, I am very attracted to them, but the ones that are from there, and my taste is such that I want to learn to speak in Mandarin, I don't think so to write it, because I see it as very complicated, but Until what time I have been in the csinos I have not seen any that are only for traditional games, and I do not know if in China they have casinos that do not have to do with roulette, or slots but only for Chinese games.

The people who are from here in the forum can give a good verdict of how things are there, because the control there is quite strict, the government wants to have control of everything.

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December 29, 2022, 01:15:48 PM
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That's true, and some casinos still allow us to remain a little gambler, and as long as we don't cross the limits set, the casinos won't check our account either. They may ask it one day, but we can hope it will not happen for little gamblers. And if we get comfort and security while at the casino, we can continue doing KYC so that we can get all the facilities from the casino for those who have already verified.
All casinos should be able to accept us as little gamblers, because we are both customers and users of the business they run.
If each casino only accepts professional gamblers with high betting amounts, it is certain that the casino will lose many users.
Inside the casino itself there are thousands or even millions of users consisting of small gamblers and big gamblers. So casino managers must remain fair and sporty towards every gambler.
(Even when it comes to bonuses, it is true that bonuses will be given in larger amounts to those who already have a very large number of bets).

Maybe the casino will still check the suspected account even though the account has done KYC. Whether it's suspicion about the deposit amount being only a small amount but when withdrawing a large amount or other suspicions, we as users ourselves don't know anything about it.
That's true because there are lots of little gamblers who like to play gambling in casinos, allowing them to play gambling. Apart from that, there are young gamblers with a lot of money but are very strict about spending money to play gambling. This is a potential target because once they become addicted to gambling, they can spend more on gambling. If casinos can pay attention to this and still provide room for young gamblers, they may be able to get additional income from the many young gamblers.

And even though the little gamblers will spend a lot of money later and be asked to do KYC because they have crossed the limits set by the casino, they will do it with heart because they can find comfort in playing gambling. It's the key to it all, and if the casinos could provide it, many gamblers would be betting big bucks.
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December 29, 2022, 08:54:22 PM
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New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.
The new casino rules will benefit the users because they don't apply KYC and other things that make it easier to create anonymous accounts, but you have to consider the reputation and security of the new casinos and many cases of fraud start from the new casinos which offer attractive offers for new users but

Avoiding KYC regulations is not a solution to getting involved in new casinos whose reputation and security cannot be verified, new casinos are still prone to scams because there is no guarantee that new casinos without KYC rules can be trusted.
That's why I don't like using the new casino to play gambling because I'm worried about fraud cases committed by the new casino. Even though it might benefit us since we are early adopters in the casino, it's still not worth it. But if the casino can provide other evidence that can be used as material for our consideration to play safely at their place, maybe we can try to use the casino as a place to play gambling. But we also have to know not to use too much money for gambling because we are still in the trial and error stage to determine how the casino will perform. And we really have to avoid casinos like that so we don't get involved in fraud cases that often happen to many people.


That is very true, now it cannot be surprising that there are many casinos that are completely asking for KYC, either at the entrance (Registration) or when a withdrawal is made, in the same way I think that now the whole trend will be towards that, no we have to fight a lot or go against the tide, and that is something that is very difficult, either due to the requirement of the licenses or for the casino to have more authenticity, and so that it is always with the legal bases according to the country where the casino operates. Some people who always seek to have more good things, or more benefits in a casino, sometimes this is the price they must pay.
We will not be able to go against the grain by not wanting to do KYC at the casinos where we often gamble. Casinos can immediately close their accounts that want to avoid following their rules because they are also required to follow the rules of the regulator. Many of us want to avoid getting into trouble at casinos and keep looking for other casinos that can provide comfort in playing because that can make us stay there. But sometimes, some don't agree with the KYC implemented before this KYC trend emerged, making them look for other casinos.

usually gambling sites don't require KYC is a natural thing, but if it's the website you mentioned it seems like some people say this is a scam. I don't have a referral for it because I'm new to the casino, if you ever put money there you should leave it because it will be difficult to get money that has been cheated.

It is that a casino that does not ask for KYC cannot be considered a scam, that is something that can be left aside, there are some casinos and platforms that are very famous and have free KYC, and they are platforms that have good faucets, this It is what makes these platforms great, most of the casinos that are new have good things, but when they offer a lot of free things or too many things that are very good, people are always suspicious because it can turn out to be a trap, and that is very true because I have witnessed how a casino can sometimes deceive many players and they do not pay them or do anything like that to comply.

But now it seems that crypto casinos have started implementing KYC for their members, and although KYC is still randomly selecting their members, it might become more strict in the future. But if the casino doesn't ask for KYC, it's possible that it still allows its members to play without verifying their accounts. But someday, its members must be ready if asked to do KYC. And those of us who are used to looking up casinos from these forums will surely know which casinos implement KYC. New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.

It is like the famous phrase of Blessed are those who are wisely chosen not to present KYC, I do have blood to be asked for KYC and sometimes it is a bit annoying, firstly because my papers that I present are not in my name because I live in a residence, it's not in my own home, so sometimes they push back my documentation and complying and looking for more requirements to be in another country is very difficult, when they put up with all those things I prefer not to be in that casino, simple , I go to another, and that is what happens with the majority of players, they prefer to go to other casinos.

If that's the case for you, maybe you need to find another reputable casino that doesn't ask for KYC or if you want to play gambling, don't use big money because so far, gamblers who use big money are asked to do KYC. But the casino can change the rules if the regulators ask for them to be changed, and the casinos can only comply. I think if we only play gambling with small money, we don't need to do KYC, especially if we play only occasionally, and it's different from other people who play almost daily. Hopefully, the casinos hear us as small gamblers, so they don't ask us to do KYC in the future.
I used to play on one of the well-known casino sites.
And indeed, when I registered and deposited a small amount, I was not asked to make a KYC.
However, after a while, I was able to collect winning money from betting in a fairly large amount. However, the site still asked to make a KYC when I withdrew all the money that was in the casino's wallet.
I don't know why this could happen and after thinking about it logically, indeed creating KYC can actually provide benefits for its users because it can provide security for every user and also the casino owner.

That's true, and some casinos still allow us to remain a little gambler, and as long as we don't cross the limits set, the casinos won't check our account either. They may ask it one day, but we can hope it will not happen for little gamblers. And if we get comfort and security while at the casino, we can continue doing KYC so that we can get all the facilities from the casino for those who have already verified.

I would rather have a verified account, I have nothing to hide and I do not want to be betting against others that are playing with money that may not have paid taxes and may have been illegally obtained. It is not fair, because they can afford to loose much more than me and still be well-off. You must consider if a site that does not offer verification is really for you.

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December 29, 2022, 10:44:08 PM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

https://www.zhb77.com/ looks down from here. btc365.com seems to be run by a Bulgarian company with a license from Montenegro. I wasn't able to find any connection with China. Your main requirement for it is to be Chinese or without KYC?
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December 30, 2022, 03:33:04 PM
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Well, it's good that we checked and found out that the site is not active.  And some even think that there are some scams.  This is certainly possible, simply because anything can happen in our world. 

But the question that interested me is this question: is there any alternative online casino that can be used from the territory of China?  Moreover, both the inhabitants of this country and visiting tourists can use it.  And at the same time there is no this damn KYC procedure? 
The question is important, China is a gigantic country, technologically advanced and has an insane number of gamblers.
 By the nature of my work, I visit different countries.  By the way, I will be in China soon.  This is the question I'm interested in.  If there is anyone from China.  Write how you can play online gambling from your country. 
Is it possible? 
Or it's illegal and it's better not to even try.  Because it might not be safe for you?
I think the last time I check this thread, the link was still working fine but now it doesn't work anymore. Oh well, that wasn't a loss to us and it's better actually that it shut down if they are truly suspicious. Scams can happen anywhere including in the field of crypto and gambling but there will always be a way to avoid them.

As for your question, I search if what is the status of gambling in China and found out that gambling is illegal on most parts of it but gambling in Macau is legal. Macau was even titled as the gambling capital before. Good luck by the way on your trip if you are planning to go on there soon. For now, you can play online casino. We have a lot of trusted casinos lying around in the forum and some don't require or mandate a KYC.
Yes, indeed I also did that same research a long time ago, in fact here on the forum there was a thread where they talked about Macao and all the options they had for the casinos, and for some it was an extreme freedom that was very useful for the casinos. big Chinese players and their whales, it is obvious that in a country as big as China there has to be gambling, I consider China one of the strongest countries in the world and that they should also be developed in every way, and this should include freedoms for people to be able to have fun as they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone, I think it should be a right, right?

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December 31, 2022, 04:26:19 AM
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I have nothing to hide and I do not want to be betting against others that are playing with money that may not have paid taxes and may have been illegally obtained. It is not fair, because they can afford to loose much more than me and still be well-off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but even if others play games with stolen money, there is no direct harm to you or anyone. Isn't the real "loser" in this case the casino itself if those users can win big and then never bet again (or complicate them with money laundering issues)? Why do you want them to play with you on "equal ground"? To borrow from a gaming term, this is not a PVP gacha game where more money equals more wins by beating other players (except for getting bonuses when they make profits).

Also, I don't think the "I have nothing to hide so here's my ID" is really a good stance in this case. There are tons of sites that use those data for malicious purposes. I definitely would not prefer a site over another just because they offer KYC verification if the team itself is not clear. This might sound like a contradiction, but it is really hard to "trust" new businesses if they don't show anything that can be traced back to them if things go south. In this case, I'd rather wait and see or use them carefully with less money and always withdraw my money when I finished my business. Which is why I think a trustless platform would be great to have.

I consider China one of the strongest countries in the world and that they should also be developed in every way, and this should include freedoms for people to be able to have fun as they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone, I think it should be a right, right?
That sounds capitalistic. I doubt China loves something like that (the ideology itself, not the economic system). There is so many news on the crackdown on gambling platforms so it makes sense that those players will use overseas platforms if they want to gamble. I don't think this is surprising anyway, people would try to break the law if opportunity arise when they consider it is worth the risk.

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December 31, 2022, 06:21:01 AM
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New casinos may not implement KYC because they want to get attention from more gamblers, so they waive KYC. But one day, if the new casino becomes more popular, there is a possibility that it will implement KYC as well.
The new casino rules will benefit the users because they don't apply KYC and other things that make it easier to create anonymous accounts, but you have to consider the reputation and security of the new casinos and many cases of fraud start from the new casinos which offer attractive offers for new users but

Avoiding KYC regulations is not a solution to getting involved in new casinos whose reputation and security cannot be verified, new casinos are still prone to scams because there is no guarantee that new casinos without KYC rules can be trusted.
That's why I don't like using the new casino to play gambling because I'm worried about fraud cases committed by the new casino. Even though it might benefit us since we are early adopters in the casino, it's still not worth it. But if the casino can provide other evidence that can be used as material for our consideration to play safely at their place, maybe we can try to use the casino as a place to play gambling. But we also have to know not to use too much money for gambling because we are still in the trial and error stage to determine how the casino will perform. And we really have to avoid casinos like that so we don't get involved in fraud cases that often happen to many people.

  - What you said is true, it's really scary to try a new casino here in cryptocurrency, that's why if we can't stop ourselves from depositing money to gamble, we should try it with a small amount first.

Don't immediately enter a small amount because gambling platforms often want the gamblers' money to run out of them only to lose.

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December 31, 2022, 11:53:07 AM
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That's true, and some casinos still allow us to remain a little gambler, and as long as we don't cross the limits set, the casinos won't check our account either. They may ask it one day, but we can hope it will not happen for little gamblers. And if we get comfort and security while at the casino, we can continue doing KYC so that we can get all the facilities from the casino for those who have already verified.
All casinos should be able to accept us as little gamblers, because we are both customers and users of the business they run.
If each casino only accepts professional gamblers with high betting amounts, it is certain that the casino will lose many users.
Inside the casino itself there are thousands or even millions of users consisting of small gamblers and big gamblers. So casino managers must remain fair and sporty towards every gambler.
(Even when it comes to bonuses, it is true that bonuses will be given in larger amounts to those who already have a very large number of bets).

Maybe the casino will still check the suspected account even though the account has done KYC. Whether it's suspicion about the deposit amount being only a small amount but when withdrawing a large amount or other suspicions, we as users ourselves don't know anything about it.
That's true because there are lots of little gamblers who like to play gambling in casinos, allowing them to play gambling. Apart from that, there are young gamblers with a lot of money but are very strict about spending money to play gambling. This is a potential target because once they become addicted to gambling, they can spend more on gambling. If casinos can pay attention to this and still provide room for young gamblers, they may be able to get additional income from the many young gamblers.

And even though the little gamblers will spend a lot of money later and be asked to do KYC because they have crossed the limits set by the casino, they will do it with heart because they can find comfort in playing gambling. It's the key to it all, and if the casinos could provide it, many gamblers would be betting big bucks.
Yes, I really think that in this era there are more and more young gamblers and they are willing to spend their money betting at casinos and casinos use this opportunity as a way to attract the interest of young gamblers.
Because maybe they feel like they want to get large amounts of money in a short time and are still in the happy phase of betting.
But actually this is really a pity because they are still young and have a long way to go in the future.
But after all, what's called a business is still a business. Casino managers are only in the business of providing gambling sites or places, so whether the users are old or young is not the business of the casino.


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