chinese bookmakers with tf gaming platform NO KYC

[maydna]

actually doing KYC on a gambling site that is popular and has a good reputation a long time ago, for me is fine. unless doing KYC on a new gambling site I am very careful to do that.

therefore it is important to use small funds first when trying out a new casino. with small deposits and bets, the casino will not force gamblers to submit KYC documents. although some may indeed require KYC for all members to make withdrawals.

some gamblers are indeed more comfortable with their anonymity. but some will not consider KYC. even those who are hunting for referral bonuses or even new casino user event bonuses also consciously do KYC to claim bonuses. it all depends on the perception of each.

So it's up to every gambler because they know the risks but many of them still use big money to gamble which can trigger the emergence of requests to do KYC. If they still use small money to play gambling, they will not be asked to do KYC but some gamblers assume that using small money will not be felt if they win.

And if you are ready to do KYC on a popular gambling site, you accept the consequences of using large amounts of money to gamble. And by doing KYC, you will not experience problems like other people who will be asked to do KYC when they win big.

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[delfastTions]

actually doing KYC on a gambling site that is popular and has a good reputation a long time ago, for me is fine. unless doing KYC on a new gambling site I am very careful to do that.

therefore it is important to use small funds first when trying out a new casino. with small deposits and bets, the casino will not force gamblers to submit KYC documents. although some may indeed require KYC for all members to make withdrawals.

some gamblers are indeed more comfortable with their anonymity. but some will not consider KYC. even those who are hunting for referral bonuses or even new casino user event bonuses also consciously do KYC to claim bonuses. it all depends on the perception of each.

So it's up to every gambler because they know the risks but many of them still use big money to gamble which can trigger the emergence of requests to do KYC. If they still use small money to play gambling, they will not be asked to do KYC but some gamblers assume that using small money will not be felt if they win.

And if you are ready to do KYC on a popular gambling site, you accept the consequences of using large amounts of money to gamble. And by doing KYC, you will not experience problems like other people who will be asked to do KYC when they win big.

I think that the concept of "big money in the game" is very different for players and in different countries. 
This, of course, is connected with the standard of living, well-being and income level of each individual person. 
And this is where the problem may arise with a sudden and unexpected for the player requirement from the casino to submit verification using the KYC procedure.  It may well be that the player simply did not understand that the withdrawal amount of his winnings is already subject to KYC requirements by law.  For example, if he had never won so much before, and suddenly got lucky!  Imagine how this damned KYC upsets and infuriates the player that there are difficulties just for him to get the win he honestly won! 

That's why KYC for crypto casinos is damn evil!

[LUCKMCFLY]

KYC is like the bouncer at the club, ya know what I mean? It's a necessary evil to keep the riff-raff out of the online gamblin and crypto world. The government's gotta do their part to make sure these industries are runnin' smoothly and ain't involved in any shady money laundering schemes. And yeah, taxes on crypto profits might be a drag, but it's like payin your dues to be part of the club. We gotta embrace the growin' importance of the crypto industry and work towards makin it more accessible to all.

Here is a point, when governments are appointed I tend to be a little tougher,because for me governments are an evil that will always exist,the only thing that if I would support an AI is that they replace world governments, I think the world would be fairer and more impartial and obviously the laws would be complied with, however,the governments do not care about the well-being of their people, they only want the well-being of those who are there, and that is fulfilled worldwide, it always is and will be like that, that's why The birth of the KYC is because of the governments to be able to control the players and especially those who have btc.

[NicNacCoin]

btc365 now its scamming site, they blocked 90% accounts , so I'm looking for something similar

I want to know how you directly said this is a scam site. Do you already know about their platform? I entered the btc365.com web site where I did not see anything like that. Then you should not consider the scam scheme without knowing directly. Anyway I have not used this platform but as far as I know their bookmaker is popular. I believe that whatever comments are entered into the platform, correct comments should be presented.

[maydna]

actually doing KYC on a gambling site that is popular and has a good reputation a long time ago, for me is fine. unless doing KYC on a new gambling site I am very careful to do that.

therefore it is important to use small funds first when trying out a new casino. with small deposits and bets, the casino will not force gamblers to submit KYC documents. although some may indeed require KYC for all members to make withdrawals.

some gamblers are indeed more comfortable with their anonymity. but some will not consider KYC. even those who are hunting for referral bonuses or even new casino user event bonuses also consciously do KYC to claim bonuses. it all depends on the perception of each.

So it's up to every gambler because they know the risks but many of them still use big money to gamble which can trigger the emergence of requests to do KYC. If they still use small money to play gambling, they will not be asked to do KYC but some gamblers assume that using small money will not be felt if they win.

And if you are ready to do KYC on a popular gambling site, you accept the consequences of using large amounts of money to gamble. And by doing KYC, you will not experience problems like other people who will be asked to do KYC when they win big.

I think that the concept of "big money in the game" is very different for players and in different countries. 
This, of course, is connected with the standard of living, well-being and income level of each individual person. 
And this is where the problem may arise with a sudden and unexpected for the player requirement from the casino to submit verification using the KYC procedure.  It may well be that the player simply did not understand that the withdrawal amount of his winnings is already subject to KYC requirements by law.  For example, if he had never won so much before, and suddenly got lucky!  Imagine how this damned KYC upsets and infuriates the player that there are difficulties just for him to get the win he honestly won! 

That's why KYC for crypto casinos is damn evil!

Yes, with increasingly stringent KYC regulations, we as crypto gambling players, feel that our freedom to gamble using crypto is limited because of the interference of the regulator. We also can't do anything and try to comply; if not, we can look for other casinos that don't have too strict KYC.

KYC has now become something no crypto users want, but it is a regulation that might get even stricter in the future as the popularity of crypto has taken place in many places. But hopefully, there are still casinos or other places of business that are not so strict regarding KYC so that we can remain anonymous in using their services.

[kenshi222]

Since this one was made without kyc,most of the gamblers surely interested on this.Some people also using gambling sites for the exchange of the black money.So they may have use this website for sure.If the website without kyc,the transaction limit was limited sometimes.I had some question about the limit of the withdrawal from your gambling sites.The gamblers look into the gambling site without kyc,this will be the needed one for such people.You had a opinion of not adding kyc till the end.

[tusandii]

Yes, with increasingly stringent KYC regulations, we as crypto gambling players, feel that our freedom to gamble using crypto is limited because of the interference of the regulator. We also can't do anything and try to comply; if not, we can look for other casinos that don't have too strict KYC.

KYC has now become something no crypto users want, but it is a regulation that might get even stricter in the future as the popularity of crypto has taken place in many places. But hopefully, there are still casinos or other places of business that are not so strict regarding KYC so that we can remain anonymous in using their services.

KYC is enforced by real casinos because of the license terms used by the casinos themselves.
If we understand that some casinos have licenses, surely all of them enforce KYC, it's just that there are some that are not as strict as for example KYC is requested when a gambler wants to withdraw a fairly high amount.
There are still some no KYC casinos out there but I myself am not really sure if they are trustworthy and completely safe to use.
But if we study and research more about the gambling industry, we can conclude that in the future more casinos will implement KYC due to license requirements and security reasons from casinos to avoid problems like money laundering.

[Awaklara]

Since this one was made without kyc,most of the gamblers surely interested on this.Some people also using gambling sites for the exchange of the black money.So they may have use this website for sure.If the website without kyc,the transaction limit was limited sometimes.I had some question about the limit of the withdrawal from your gambling sites.The gamblers look into the gambling site without kyc,this will be the needed one for such people.You had a opinion of not adding kyc till the end.

gambling sites without KYC will indeed appeal to gamblers. or maybe someone who just wants to get rid of traces of shady dealings.
if on the way the site is not in trouble with some government regulations. they can last quite a while. but when what they run has problems in the future. their only option is to stop the project or continue the project with some new rules that must support the rules allowed by the government.

[taufik123]

KYC is enforced by real casinos because of the license terms used by the casinos themselves.
If we understand that some casinos have licenses, surely all of them enforce KYC, it's just that there are some that are not as strict as for example KYC is requested when a gambler wants to withdraw a fairly high amount.

Online casinos that implement KYC are following the government's recommendations so that their casinos are legal and not targeted when there is a casino closure.
They pay taxes so everything will be safe.

KYC is also enforced to stop money laundering practices that usually occur on gambling sites, there have been many cases reported related to money laundering involving Online Casino platforms.
There are some Casinos that ask for KYC when withdrawing large amounts only, it is the rule of each casino.

There are still some no KYC casinos out there but I myself am not really sure if they are trustworthy and completely safe to use.
But if we study and research more about the gambling industry, we can conclude that in the future more casinos will implement KYC due to license requirements and security reasons from casinos to avoid problems like money laundering.

Casinos that implement gambling without KYC will indeed be at high risk, because it will be a place of fraud that will affect users.
and there is no support from the government so many casinos are declared illegal, at any time they will definitely be closed.
 
All casinos today must be under the auspices of the government, so that there are no criminal acts that can be a gap for criminals to launder money from the results of a break-in or something like that.

[maydna]

Yes, with increasingly stringent KYC regulations, we as crypto gambling players, feel that our freedom to gamble using crypto is limited because of the interference of the regulator. We also can't do anything and try to comply; if not, we can look for other casinos that don't have too strict KYC.

KYC has now become something no crypto users want, but it is a regulation that might get even stricter in the future as the popularity of crypto has taken place in many places. But hopefully, there are still casinos or other places of business that are not so strict regarding KYC so that we can remain anonymous in using their services.

KYC is enforced by real casinos because of the license terms used by the casinos themselves.
If we understand that some casinos have licenses, surely all of them enforce KYC, it's just that there are some that are not as strict as for example KYC is requested when a gambler wants to withdraw a fairly high amount.
There are still some no KYC casinos out there but I myself am not really sure if they are trustworthy and completely safe to use.
But if we study and research more about the gambling industry, we can conclude that in the future more casinos will implement KYC due to license requirements and security reasons from casinos to avoid problems like money laundering.

I'm not sure about the casinos outside of this forum have had a bad experience trying just anyone before. I always try to avoid it even though I often see casinos I don't know on social media or search engines.

I think the casino is just trying to comply with the regulations from the regulator so that the casino can continue its business without worrying if there is an inspection from the regulator regarding members who play at their casino. And we should be grateful because crypto casinos still don't require KYC for all their members and only select certain members to do KYC. I hope this will happen so that not all members have to do KYC because we use different money to play gambling.

[joniboini]

There are still some no KYC casinos out there but I myself am not really sure if they are trustworthy and completely safe to use.
But if we study and research more about the gambling industry, we can conclude that in the future more casinos will implement KYC due to license requirements and security reasons from casinos to avoid problems like money laundering.

I'm not that confident about it. From what I've read, casino licenses provide no protection against such things. One of them in fact does not allow the casino to serve its own residents. If what I've read is true, most casino licenses are just a cash grab from the government so that they get more money from gamblers, while basically offering little to no protection to their users[1].

I also don't think they care much about money laundering until a government asks them about it. Even if they don't require KYC, I'm pretty sure they store some data that is useful for investigators. Probably not a good idea to judge a service like a casino solely on their license.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345895.0

[len01]

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That's why KYC for crypto casinos is damn evil!

I understand what you're saying, but nevertheless, those are the terms and conditions of the casino that we must comply with in order to be able to withdraw that big win.

however there is no other way to be able to withdraw big wins and you have to send KYC to the casino to be verified and be able to withdraw all balances. even though it looks a little evil but we can't fight S&K

[LUCKMCFLY]

We understand that it is more of a government demand that they want casinos to operate with enforcing KYC and casino have to obey them to comply with the local rules but things in China are operated differently. That's why if any bookmaker is able to provide gambling services without enforcing KYC, we should not be surprised.

If someone tells me that they want to trade in the bitcoin market but they have no idea how it works, my advice is to tell them not to do it, that it is not correct to enter the market and gamble, it does not work like that, maybe if they do he does and is lucky he wins, but in the long term that luck will run out and he will lose everything, trading is not luck or guessing, you know, and we have to take that into consideration when operating.

What I told him is that he better go to a casino and manage his money there, I know that he will still lose it but at least he will enjoy the games, whereas in trading things are not like that.

[len01]

If someone tells me that they want to trade in the bitcoin market but they have no idea how it works, my advice is to tell them not to do it, that it is not correct to enter the market and gamble, it does not work like that, maybe if they do he does and is lucky he wins, but in the long term that luck will run out and he will lose everything, trading is not luck or guessing, you know, and we have to take that into consideration when operating.

What I told him is that he better go to a casino and manage his money there, I know that he will still lose it but at least he will enjoy the games, whereas in trading things are not like that.

it would be best to do neither and choose to set up your own gambling business.
gambling and trading both use strategies and usually those who use that strategy will be based on luck. so doing both is just a waste of money if unlucky but better to set up your own casino is more profitable.

yes, indeed, maybe you think that going to gambling can manage finances in gambling to last longer towards luck. but the question is, is he able to control himself not to be emotional? the longer in gambling will increase the boredom and turn into emotion. at that moment will also lose all the money.

[delfastTions]

If someone tells me that they want to trade in the bitcoin market but they have no idea how it works, my advice is to tell them not to do it, that it is not correct to enter the market and gamble, it does not work like that, maybe if they do he does and is lucky he wins, but in the long term that luck will run out and he will lose everything, trading is not luck or guessing, you know, and we have to take that into consideration when operating.

What I told him is that he better go to a casino and manage his money there, I know that he will still lose it but at least he will enjoy the games, whereas in trading things are not like that.

it would be best to do neither and choose to set up your own gambling business.
gambling and trading both use strategies and usually those who use that strategy will be based on luck. so doing both is just a waste of money if unlucky but better to set up your own casino is more profitable.

yes, indeed, maybe you think that going to gambling can manage finances in gambling to last longer towards luck. but the question is, is he able to control himself not to be emotional? the longer in gambling will increase the boredom and turn into emotion. at that moment will also lose all the money.

All the same, it is quite difficult and very, very expensive to create some kind of gambling site on your own in such a way that this site could be considered at least in the slightest degree as an online casino. 
I think that those guys who organize such gambling sites must have an investment of several million dollars.  So it's very difficult.  You also need to get a license from Curacao or from the UK regulator, which is also expensive.  So only very rich people who are still well acquainted with the online gambling market itself and the financial policy of successful casinos can afford to organize a new and also successful casino. 

And of course, such a casino will require KYC from customers so as not to violate the laws of the country where it is registered.

[LUCKMCFLY]

actually doing KYC on a gambling site that is popular and has a good reputation a long time ago, for me is fine. unless doing KYC on a new gambling site I am very careful to do that.

therefore it is important to use small funds first when trying out a new casino. with small deposits and bets, the casino will not force gamblers to submit KYC documents. although some may indeed require KYC for all members to make withdrawals.

some gamblers are indeed more comfortable with their anonymity. but some will not consider KYC. even those who are hunting for referral bonuses or even new casino user event bonuses also consciously do KYC to claim bonuses. it all depends on the perception of each.

So it's up to every gambler because they know the risks but many of them still use big money to gamble which can trigger the emergence of requests to do KYC. If they still use small money to play gambling, they will not be asked to do KYC but some gamblers assume that using small money will not be felt if they win.

And if you are ready to do KYC on a popular gambling site, you accept the consequences of using large amounts of money to gamble. And by doing KYC, you will not experience problems like other people who will be asked to do KYC when they win big.

Well what happens is that when we Play with little money it is normal that if you win it is little,but this is where the culture of the good player comes in , that at least I see the game as a business, that is, if I play and I get profits that for me is enough , it doesn't matter if it's a little bit , a profit no matter how little it is, it's a profit,those who want to win more , they have to bet more money, and obviously if they bet more,the profits are older, but the Risk is too high, I will always be inclined to play moderately and allow myself to lose the money I have willing to do so.

[klidex]

Yes, with increasingly stringent KYC regulations, we as crypto gambling players, feel that our freedom to gamble using crypto is limited because of the interference of the regulator. We also can't do anything and try to comply; if not, we can look for other casinos that don't have too strict KYC.

KYC has now become something no crypto users want, but it is a regulation that might get even stricter in the future as the popularity of crypto has taken place in many places. But hopefully, there are still casinos or other places of business that are not so strict regarding KYC so that we can remain anonymous in using their services.

KYC is enforced by real casinos because of the license terms used by the casinos themselves.
If we understand that some casinos have licenses, surely all of them enforce KYC, it's just that there are some that are not as strict as for example KYC is requested when a gambler wants to withdraw a fairly high amount.
There are still some no KYC casinos out there but I myself am not really sure if they are trustworthy and completely safe to use.
But if we study and research more about the gambling industry, we can conclude that in the future more casinos will implement KYC due to license requirements and security reasons from casinos to avoid problems like money laundering.

I'm not sure about the casinos outside of this forum have had a bad experience trying just anyone before. I always try to avoid it even though I often see casinos I don't know on social media or search engines.

I think the casino is just trying to comply with the regulations from the regulator so that the casino can continue its business without worrying if there is an inspection from the regulator regarding members who play at their casino. And we should be grateful because crypto casinos still don't require KYC for all their members and only select certain members to do KYC. I hope this will happen so that not all members have to do KYC because we use different money to play gambling.

Crypto casinos ask customers for KYC only for certain situations like to claim any bonus or for large amount deposit or large amount withdrawal.
At certain crypto casinos there are also those who ask for KYC level 1 on the first deposit but that is very rare but almost all crypto casinos don't ask for KYC when you only want to deposit a small amount and bet with a minimum bet.
We as people in crypto casinos are grateful to gamble without involving our personal data in gambling and we still remain anonymous.

[len01]

If someone tells me that they want to trade in the bitcoin market but they have no idea how it works, my advice is to tell them not to do it, that it is not correct to enter the market and gamble, it does not work like that, maybe if they do he does and is lucky he wins, but in the long term that luck will run out and he will lose everything, trading is not luck or guessing, you know, and we have to take that into consideration when operating.

What I told him is that he better go to a casino and manage his money there, I know that he will still lose it but at least he will enjoy the games, whereas in trading things are not like that.

it would be best to do neither and choose to set up your own gambling business.
gambling and trading both use strategies and usually those who use that strategy will be based on luck. so doing both is just a waste of money if unlucky but better to set up your own casino is more profitable.

yes, indeed, maybe you think that going to gambling can manage finances in gambling to last longer towards luck. but the question is, is he able to control himself not to be emotional? the longer in gambling will increase the boredom and turn into emotion. at that moment will also lose all the money.

All the same, it is quite difficult and very, very expensive to create some kind of gambling site on your own in such a way that this site could be considered at least in the slightest degree as an online casino. 
I think that those guys who organize such gambling sites must have an investment of several million dollars.  So it's very difficult.  You also need to get a license from Curacao or from the UK regulator, which is also expensive.  So only very rich people who are still well acquainted with the online gambling market itself and the financial policy of successful casinos can afford to organize a new and also successful casino. 

And of course, such a casino will require KYC from customers so as not to violate the laws of the country where it is registered.

to make your own casino, you really need a lot of money and in other stages, before starting a casino business, you must have at least experience and expertise in the field of gambling.
but what I mean is if gamblers really want to get a lot of money or a definite income, it is better to set up their own casino than to waste money on gambling without clear benefits.

of course the casino still enforces KYC when the casino is registered with a licensing company like curacao. because licensed casinos from curacao usually require KYC for certain issues.

actually doing KYC on a gambling site that is popular and has a good reputation a long time ago, for me is fine. unless doing KYC on a new gambling site I am very careful to do that.

therefore it is important to use small funds first when trying out a new casino. with small deposits and bets, the casino will not force gamblers to submit KYC documents. although some may indeed require KYC for all members to make withdrawals.

some gamblers are indeed more comfortable with their anonymity. but some will not consider KYC. even those who are hunting for referral bonuses or even new casino user event bonuses also consciously do KYC to claim bonuses. it all depends on the perception of each.

So it's up to every gambler because they know the risks but many of them still use big money to gamble which can trigger the emergence of requests to do KYC. If they still use small money to play gambling, they will not be asked to do KYC but some gamblers assume that using small money will not be felt if they win.

And if you are ready to do KYC on a popular gambling site, you accept the consequences of using large amounts of money to gamble. And by doing KYC, you will not experience problems like other people who will be asked to do KYC when they win big.

Well what happens is that when we Play with little money it is normal that if you win it is little,but this is where the culture of the good player comes in , that at least I see the game as a business, that is, if I play and I get profits that for me is enough , it doesn't matter if it's a little bit , a profit no matter how little it is, it's a profit,those who want to win more , they have to bet more money, and obviously if they bet more,the profits are older, but the Risk is too high, I will always be inclined to play moderately and allow myself to lose the money I have willing to do so.

getting big profits at gambling certainly requires large capital, in contrast to gamblers who use amounts that can afford to lose, they usually only use a small budget for gambling and bet using the minimum bet and if they are lucky, of course the profits will also be small.
for gamblers who bet for fun it would be better to bet using a small amount but can enjoy every bet and when he loses, he also won't feel very disappointed. because the money lost in gambling is only a small amount and you can afford to lose.

[delfastTions]

.....^^^^......
getting big profits at gambling certainly requires large capital, in contrast to gamblers who use amounts that can afford to lose, they usually only use a small budget for gambling and bet using the minimum bet and if they are lucky, of course the profits will also be small.
for gamblers who bet for fun it would be better to bet using a small amount but can enjoy every bet and when he loses, he also won't feel very disappointed. because the money lost in gambling is only a small amount and you can afford to lose.

This is absolutely the right advice for the average gambler who just likes to relax and play a little, for example, in the evening, coming home from work and after a tiring day at work. 
There is another advantage of playing with small amounts - this advantage lies in the fact that for players who use cryptocurrencies there is no question and no trouble when the casino, which initially did not require verification by the KYC procedure, will no longer require this damned KYC. 
I think many of you, faced with the fact that KYC is required in order, for example, to withdraw winnings to your wallet, would immediately be very upset.  Or even angry.  Well, who wants to spend time on all this nonsense with confirmation that you are a specific person with a passport and living at a specific address.  For example, even captcha always annoys me, not to mention KYC. 

All this is the idiocy of the Internet, and not "protection against fraudsters" or "anti-money laundering".   
All these are fairy tales, invented in order for the masses of ordinary people to think that this is caring for them, although in reality these are all elements of total control over the population.

[len01]

.....^^^^......
getting big profits at gambling certainly requires large capital, in contrast to gamblers who use amounts that can afford to lose, they usually only use a small budget for gambling and bet using the minimum bet and if they are lucky, of course the profits will also be small.
for gamblers who bet for fun it would be better to bet using a small amount but can enjoy every bet and when he loses, he also won't feel very disappointed. because the money lost in gambling is only a small amount and you can afford to lose.

This is absolutely the right advice for the average gambler who just likes to relax and play a little, for example, in the evening, coming home from work and after a tiring day at work. 
There is another advantage of playing with small amounts - this advantage lies in the fact that for players who use cryptocurrencies there is no question and no trouble when the casino, which initially did not require verification by the KYC procedure, will no longer require this damned KYC. 
I think many of you, faced with the fact that KYC is required in order, for example, to withdraw winnings to your wallet, would immediately be very upset.  Or even angry.  Well, who wants to spend time on all this nonsense with confirmation that you are a specific person with a passport and living at a specific address.  For example, even captcha always annoys me, not to mention KYC. 

All this is the idiocy of the Internet, and not "protection against fraudsters" or "anti-money laundering".   
All these are fairy tales, invented in order for the masses of ordinary people to think that this is caring for them, although in reality these are all elements of total control over the population.

yep, of course we bet with small amounts and with small wins we will avoid KYC which always haunts gamblers when they want to withdraw funds from the casino.
because most crypto gamblers, they gamble using crypto with anonymous reasons not to show who we really are especially if we are asked for a street address and a photo of a house, it's very annoying.
but anyway these are still pros and cons about KYC whereas casinos need KYC to detect money laundering but sometimes not reputable casinos sell customer data to black market and this happens a lot.

so to do KYC it's back to each gambler. if they are comfortable doing KYC, so be it. and for gamblers who don't want KYC, they have their reasons.

I myself sometimes do KYC so I can withdraw my big win