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January 25, 2023, 07:50:58 PM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.

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January 26, 2023, 01:28:22 PM
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I continue to think and argue that when payments during gambling are made using cryptocurrencies, then the KYC procedure is a damn evil, an invention by the American banking lobby and reflected in the US legislation.  
And then it was spread around the world because all local legislators and governments look with their mouths open and give in to these American alleged "masters of the world" because they are issuers of paper money, and now even simpler numbers in a computer in the form of newly created dollars.  Everyone knows that the US authorities went crazy on the question of how to rip off their people with taxes and fines, if they filled out something wrong in the declaration.  So they came up with this KYC of their own.  Fortunately, not all countries are subject to the Americans. There are also countries who spit on their demands.  And their territories may well host crypto casinos where no KYC is needed and players can easily play without this stupid verification.  And besides, there are many more scammers in the simple dollar payments sector, and not in the cryptocurrency sector.  And all these are fairy tales and legends that cryptocurrency is only for money laundering and for scammers.  It is the banking lobbies that spread such advertising, scaring ordinary people.  
And it's understandable why.  To get more loans and mortgages.  And, accordingly, more income for bankers.
Better if they can make exceptions and that is they should only accept centralized cryptos if KYC is one of their requirements before a person can gamble on them, so that people won't bash them as we think this is contradicting to the true purpose of decentralized cryptos which is to offer anonymity and free from control.

I am glad that there are still countries who are against with the US idea about KYC but I am afraid these countries will soon be threatened out by the US and then the no KYC casino that they have created will be shut down. Better watch out for this possibility or always stay updated about the news that your casino is giving to avoid losing your funds.

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January 26, 2023, 03:31:05 PM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
If he were really serious about his business, he would eventually launch his website to the public after ensuring everything was running smoothly. And if one day, the casino can grow big and the regulators approach the casino to follow the rules, that will not be a problem. But hopefully, the casino won't ask its users to do KYC so that we as gamblers who will later try to play at the casino, won't find it difficult to follow the rules.
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January 26, 2023, 07:52:35 PM
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For me personally, as long as the casino has a credible and trustworthy reputation i have no problem with KYC. because after all, gradually all casinos will enforce KYC as one of the requirements. like it or not, one must be willing to fulfill KYC requirements which in the end, gradually everyone will get used to KYC.
So true.
I also agree with you that it doesn't matter if we provide KYC if it is really needed as a condition in a casino that is trusted and has a good reputation in the gambling industry.
The casino will also not use data on KYC to commit a crime because if they manage the casino properly they can get huge profits so it is impossible to commit a crime by utilizing user data from KYC.
As crypto casinos develop, I am also sure that each of these casinos will also impose KYC requirements on each of their customers in the future.

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January 26, 2023, 08:28:03 PM
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The casino will also not use data on KYC to commit a crime because if they manage the casino properly they can get huge profits so it is impossible to commit a crime by utilizing user data from KYC.
As crypto casinos develop, I am also sure that each of these casinos will also impose KYC requirements on each of their customers in the future.
If you provide KYC data to the wrong casino, there is no guarantee that your data will be safe, like you join a new project but you don't do any research before submitting KYC data. So make sure you provide KYC data for reputable, licensed and trusted casinos.

The implementation of KYC requirements at each casino is due to licensing regulations, so you must understand about the statement and not because the factor of the development of casinos will add KYC requirements in the future.

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January 26, 2023, 10:57:17 PM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
agree with you.
better to do KYC now than promise no KYC in fact be asked for KYC after the platform grows bigger.
there are many cases like this when the casino is still new giving very definite promises not caring about KYC but after the casino has been running for a long time and has become a little big, they forget about the initial agreement and after that ask all gamblers to do KYC in every withdrawal in small or large amounts.

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The casino will also not use data on KYC to commit a crime because if they manage the casino properly they can get huge profits so it is impossible to commit a crime by utilizing user data from KYC.
As crypto casinos develop, I am also sure that each of these casinos will also impose KYC requirements on each of their customers in the future.
If you provide KYC data to the wrong casino, there is no guarantee that your data will be safe, like you join a new project but you don't do any research before submitting KYC data. So make sure you provide KYC data for reputable, licensed and trusted casinos.

The implementation of KYC requirements at each casino is due to licensing regulations, so you must understand about the statement and not because the factor of the development of casinos will add KYC requirements in the future.
I agree that you should verify a gambling facility's legitimacy before supplying personal information. Protecting your identity and finances is crucial. As widely assumed, casinos employ KYC standards owing to license limits, not as a trend or expansion plan. Thus, internet gamers should be cautious

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January 27, 2023, 05:06:28 PM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
agree with you.
better to do KYC now than promise no KYC in fact be asked for KYC after the platform grows bigger.
there are many cases like this when the casino is still new giving very definite promises not caring about KYC but after the casino has been running for a long time and has become a little big, they forget about the initial agreement and after that ask all gamblers to do KYC in every withdrawal in small or large amounts.
Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.

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January 27, 2023, 09:11:35 PM
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Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.
We can conclude that there is no casino that does not require KYC even though it is not stated in the terms and conditions, so any non-KYC gambler is not guaranteed anonymous because they will be asked for KYC at any time even if the casino is not licensed, the purpose of the casino is to require KYC because gamblers will make withdrawals From winning on slots, gamblers have no guarantee of being able to withdraw funds because the casino will not verify the KYC provided, so it is better to switch to choosing a top casino that has been recommended in forums.

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January 27, 2023, 09:24:01 PM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
agree with you.
better to do KYC now than promise no KYC in fact be asked for KYC after the platform grows bigger.
there are many cases like this when the casino is still new giving very definite promises not caring about KYC but after the casino has been running for a long time and has become a little big, they forget about the initial agreement and after that ask all gamblers to do KYC in every withdrawal in small or large amounts.
When the KYC is done to withdraw a specific amount, be it a little or a lot, they achieve what they want, the Chinese have many things that are prohibited, it does not seem strange to me that they have prohibited casinos or that they demand strong KYC, it is said that In China there is everything, and there should be casinos that are without KYC, but it is like looking for the gold in a pagjar, you should do it, but they can be treated as fraudulent sites where you cannot trust, some fraudulent sites do not survive in bitcointalk, because there are experts who verify that a casino is legal and always pays and does not steal from its players.

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January 28, 2023, 12:08:09 AM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
agree with you.
better to do KYC now than promise no KYC in fact be asked for KYC after the platform grows bigger.
there are many cases like this when the casino is still new giving very definite promises not caring about KYC but after the casino has been running for a long time and has become a little big, they forget about the initial agreement and after that ask all gamblers to do KYC in every withdrawal in small or large amounts.
When the KYC is done to withdraw a specific amount, be it a little or a lot, they achieve what they want, the Chinese have many things that are prohibited, it does not seem strange to me that they have prohibited casinos or that they demand strong KYC, it is said that In China there is everything, and there should be casinos that are without KYC, but it is like looking for the gold in a pagjar, you should do it, but they can be treated as fraudulent sites where you cannot trust, some fraudulent sites do not survive in bitcointalk, because there are experts who verify that a casino is legal and always pays and does not steal from its players.

it would be even better if you want to bet on online gambling it's better to do KYC earlier than having to ask for KYC when you want to withdraw big wins and it will usually take a very long time.
It doesn't matter if the casino is part of China or not for sure online casino is now popular with KYC and better do it earlier than we have problems in the future

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January 28, 2023, 02:49:21 PM
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Personally I think that the Chinese casino platforms attract my attention, because I know that the Chinese have a lot of development, they always look for ways to keep entertainment, and the games that are local, the ones that they have as traditional, I have always liked, despite the fact that I don't understand them, I don't see that they are very interesting, I would like a caisnio that is clearly part of that Chinese culture, I would like to have more of these ocpineos, we are used to entering casinos where they offer us roulette wheels, slot machines, dice, another one would be excellent way to be able to play with games of Chinese culture, I don't know if at that level the problem would also be exacerbated with KYC?

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January 28, 2023, 03:28:39 PM
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Personally I think that the Chinese casino platforms attract my attention, because I know that the Chinese have a lot of development, they always look for ways to keep entertainment, and the games that are local, the ones that they have as traditional, I have always liked, despite the fact that I don't understand them, I don't see that they are very interesting, I would like a caisnio that is clearly part of that Chinese culture, I would like to have more of these ocpineos, we are used to entering casinos where they offer us roulette wheels, slot machines, dice, another one would be excellent way to be able to play with games of Chinese culture, I don't know if at that level the problem would also be exacerbated with KYC?

Today is the 1st time I am seeing this casino probably I have seen it but have not taken cognisant for the site. I also noticed casinos launched by Chinese companies, it caused traffic, Chinese are talented to create animations that very attractive. That is why in their number not population they still have a lot of ways to make money. They are not like other countries that says they can't do anything because of the high rate of population. China have a lot entertainments. China is not like Japan that restricts gambling.
I don't think there will be any exacerbation of KYC.









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January 28, 2023, 04:10:12 PM
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Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.
We can conclude that there is no casino that does not require KYC even though it is not stated in the terms and conditions, so any non-KYC gambler is not guaranteed anonymous because they will be asked for KYC at any time even if the casino is not licensed, the purpose of the casino is to require KYC because gamblers will make withdrawals From winning on slots, gamblers have no guarantee of being able to withdraw funds because the casino will not verify the KYC provided, so it is better to switch to choosing a top casino that has been recommended in forums.
Yes you are right that mate as a gambler we need to look for a good casino, a casino that trusted enough, the casino that truly recommend from forums cause it will make as our Identity secure if they will ask KYC because most of all casino here in forum or outside of the forum ask KYC for withdrawals and even in deposit. Also  the surprise of other casino is there ad we all know that some casino not endecate in thier terms of condition about KYC but when you are going to withdraw they will ask you.

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January 28, 2023, 04:24:12 PM
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Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.
We can conclude that there is no casino that does not require KYC even though it is not stated in the terms and conditions, so any non-KYC gambler is not guaranteed anonymous because they will be asked for KYC at any time even if the casino is not licensed, the purpose of the casino is to require KYC because gamblers will make withdrawals From winning on slots, gamblers have no guarantee of being able to withdraw funds because the casino will not verify the KYC provided, so it is better to switch to choosing a top casino that has been recommended in forums.
Yes you are right that mate as a gambler we need to look for a good casino, a casino that trusted enough, the casino that truly recommend from forums cause it will make as our Identity secure if they will ask KYC because most of all casino here in forum or outside of the forum ask KYC for withdrawals and even in deposit. Also  the surprise of other casino is there ad we all know that some casino not endecate in thier terms of condition about KYC but when you are going to withdraw they will ask you.
I believe that all of the casino should indicate their rules such as KYC on their terms and condition. If they haven't indicated about it, Gamblers would assume that the casino is not requiring gamblers to submit their KYC. In the future it will cause a problem between the gamblers and the casino if terms aren't indicated. If we are on the situation that there are problem on a casino that haven't indicated about KYC, Gambler has the upper hand in this kind of situation no matter how you look at it knowing that the gambler doesn't broke any rules. Casino can easily be tagged as a scammer if they refuse to pay. Though it is unlikely to happen that the casino wouldn't or forgot to put a KYC policy knowing it is a very important part.
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January 28, 2023, 04:44:01 PM
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Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.
We can conclude that there is no casino that does not require KYC even though it is not stated in the terms and conditions, so any non-KYC gambler is not guaranteed anonymous because they will be asked for KYC at any time even if the casino is not licensed, the purpose of the casino is to require KYC because gamblers will make withdrawals From winning on slots, gamblers have no guarantee of being able to withdraw funds because the casino will not verify the KYC provided, so it is better to switch to choosing a top casino that has been recommended in forums.
Choosing the best casino recommended on the forum will be better, although we have to do KYC verification in the end. At least, we hope these best casinos can maintain customer data properly and not abuse it. Using the best casino, we won't worry about anything because the best casinos can provide the best for their customers. That way, as long as we play and withdraw the winning money, there won't be any problems.

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January 31, 2023, 02:20:55 PM
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Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.
We can conclude that there is no casino that does not require KYC even though it is not stated in the terms and conditions, so any non-KYC gambler is not guaranteed anonymous because they will be asked for KYC at any time even if the casino is not licensed, the purpose of the casino is to require KYC because gamblers will make withdrawals From winning on slots, gamblers have no guarantee of being able to withdraw funds because the casino will not verify the KYC provided, so it is better to switch to choosing a top casino that has been recommended in forums.
Choosing the best casino recommended on the forum will be better, although we have to do KYC verification in the end. At least, we hope these best casinos can maintain customer data properly and not abuse it. Using the best casino, we won't worry about anything because the best casinos can provide the best for their customers. That way, as long as we play and withdraw the winning money, there won't be any problems.
For some reason, all of you, colleagues, think that KYC verification gives you a lot of all kinds of guarantees.
 To some extent, of course, this is the case.  But when you come to the KYC verification procedures, then your identity will always appear in the customer bases of a particular casino.  And these very databases, according to the casino devs, are strictly confidential. 
But in real life, such statements are just convincing clients that verification is completely safe and this data will never get anywhere.  However, life shows that the theft of such information takes place.  And we hear about such incidents all the time.  For example, even Ledger had data of almost a million buyers stolen a couple of years ago.  And there was quite a big scandal.  And this is from such a powerful well-known company.  What do you think, can the security of personal data be ensured at the highest level simply by ordinary casino sites? 
Yes, of course not!  So KYC can turn into a leak of personal data to public networks for you too.  Keep this in mind.  And the main information here - is that you are gambling in a casino with cryptocurrency.  And that means you have cryptocurrency. Smiley

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February 04, 2023, 07:31:32 PM
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it would be even better if you want to bet on online gambling it's better to do KYC earlier than having to ask for KYC when you want to withdraw big wins and it will usually take a very long time.
It doesn't matter if the casino is part of China or not for sure online casino is now popular with KYC and better do it earlier than we have problems in the future
Cryptocurrency casinos do not want to do this because if gamblers were given two options to play at a casino which asked for their documents upfront or to play at a casino which only asked this information on the case of a big withdrawal, then most gamblers will prefer to play at the second casino, casinos know this and if possible they want to avoid losing customers in this way, now this does not stop a gambler from trying to identify himself earlier but this is not a very common posture among gamblers, which prefer to be anonymous for as long as they can.

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The issue with KYC is that it only favours the casino and little on players since if the casino can hust offer games and play win on these games, but in the case of license and account limitation, kyc favours both bht gamblers prefer not to reveal their identity.

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February 05, 2023, 04:32:11 AM
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maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.

A/ Yeah that would be the case for other casinos not for us we are located in Costa Rica and we are not required to ask for KYC Wink

maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
If he were really serious about his business, he would eventually launch his website to the public after ensuring everything was running smoothly. And if one day, the casino can grow big and the regulators approach the casino to follow the rules, that will not be a problem. But hopefully, the casino won't ask its users to do KYC so that we as gamblers who will later try to play at the casino, won't find it difficult to follow the rules.

A/ Yeap we are serious we are not going to ask for KYC ever !

maybe someone knows such bookmakers as https://www.zhb77.com/ or btc365.com (5 month ago) who have tf gaming or other chinese platform without KYC

would be very grateful if you could share these

We are close to launch and we are going to accept players from anywhere and no KYC ever !
It is better to not make promises which are impossible to fulfill, maybe when a casino is small they can get away with this, but as soon as you begin to manage a high volume of money through your casino then you will get the attention of the regulators which will basically give you two options, to follow the rules or shutdown, and if you have to confront that situation I would expect for you to follow the regulations put in place and ask for all kind of identifying documents from gamblers from that point on.
agree with you.
better to do KYC now than promise no KYC in fact be asked for KYC after the platform grows bigger.
there are many cases like this when the casino is still new giving very definite promises not caring about KYC but after the casino has been running for a long time and has become a little big, they forget about the initial agreement and after that ask all gamblers to do KYC in every withdrawal in small or large amounts.
Second the motion as we all know there are many casino who offer or saying that they don't have any KYC but in the end when you are going to withdraw your winning then they start asking KYC so its not a good practice promising that they don't have KYC as we all know that promises are ment to be broken. Its better to say that KYC is a must rather than catching the attention of a gambler using lie it because they promise that theres no KYC.

A/ We are not going to do that when you try to withdraw
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