[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK sponsored by Utopia

[TopTort777]

Although I'm rooting for Usyk, but objectively, Fury has a better chance of winning, if the fight takes place at all, of course, he is also hardy and fast as Usyk, besides, he has a powerful knockout punch. Among other things, the "Gypsy King" does not have too much of a break in order to lose shape, so if the fight takes place, I think it will be the greatest event in boxing and may delay the departure from boxing of both Fury and Usyk a little.

In this possible fight, I also see Fury as a winner. It is hard to knockout such a giant as Fury. In this fight, Usyk truly is going to look like a man from lower division, and recent boxing and combat sports fights showed that fighting in other division is really hard. AJ was 10kg heavier than Usyk. Fury probably gonna be 20-30 more. His punches are going to be much heavier than AJ, Usyk gonna feel much different pain. Besides, Fury is fat but fast. Perhaps even as fast as Usyk.

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[Cryptmuster]

In this possible fight, I also see Fury as a winner. It is hard to knockout such a giant as Fury. In this fight, Usyk truly is going to look like a man from lower division, and recent boxing and combat sports fights showed that fighting in other division is really hard. AJ was 10kg heavier than Usyk. Fury probably gonna be 20-30 more. His punches are going to be much heavier than AJ, Usyk gonna feel much different pain. Besides, Fury is fat but fast. Perhaps even as fast as Usyk.

Usyk is ambitious and should have challenged Fury to a fight. But he himself understands that this will be a very difficult fight for him, probably the hardest in his life, of course, if this fight takes place. Fury loves money, and if he said that he would fight for a lot of money, then I am sure that this money will be collected for him. I am not sure that Usyk needs this fight, if it does take place, then Usyk will not be able to knock out Fury, at best it will be 12 hard rounds.

[JollyGood]

At the moment there are 15 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 12
Usyk to win:  3

It is fairly overwhelmingly in favour of Fury to win with 80% of the poll in his favour but I am curious if the 3 members that voted for Usyk think he will win by a KO/TKO or by a points decision. How do they think Usyk can win.

[KTChampions]

I added my vote for Usyk 
I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time 

When they enter the ring who do you think will win. Regardless of the trash talk or alleged trash talk, when they get in the ring do you think Usyk will really win?

If we exclude doping and other possible undercover fraud, then yes, I think Usyk should win. Naturally, this is a probabilistic event, but if we see this fight, I will bet on Usyk (I will answer for my words with money) since he will be terribly underestimated. Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.
On one of the forums, I read a funny summary of Fury's career: he defeated the old Klitschko once and a basketball player three times   (sorry Wilder). In short, Fury is ripe, he must fall  

[btc_angela]

I added my vote for Usyk 
I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time 

When they enter the ring who do you think will win. Regardless of the trash talk or alleged trash talk, when they get in the ring do you think Usyk will really win?

If we exclude doping and other possible undercover fraud, then yes, I think Usyk should win. Naturally, this is a probabilistic event, but if we see this fight, I will bet on Usyk (I will answer for my words with money) since he will be terribly underestimated. Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.
On one of the forums, I read a funny summary of Fury's career: he defeated the old Klitschko once and a basketball player three times   (sorry Wilder). In short, Fury is ripe, he must fall  

Anthony Joshua also defeated Klitschko, Fury though beat a prime Wilder, and I'm not sure about the basketball player comment on Wilder. Usyk is a great boxer, he beat Joshua twice already, very skilled, but I don't think he will beat Fury. In terms of physical, I don't think that Usyk will be a threat, maybe Fury will have some problems with the style of Usyk specially the speed. But Fury himself is very awkward and this could throw Usyk off balance too.

[TopTort777]

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers? If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated

[virasisog]

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers? If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated

Fury has been undefeated and been consistent with his record. I guess Usyk only wants a huge challenge for his career but Fury would really be a strong opponent for him. We've seen their aggressiveness of Fury during his previous matches and I doubt Usyk could beat him down that easy. He needs a lot of time to learn how to counter and have a strong defense against Fury.

[dimonstration]

Still Tyson Fury because his performance still didn’t change and he is literally on his prime even though he is already planning his retirement. He is the best in his division and there’s no doubt about that. Usyk didn’t manage to KO or beat AJ in majority or unanimous division which means they still have a close fight while Tyson Fury last 3 matches are both KO. The fight will be explosive if this heavyweight fight will happened. I believe this might be Fury last match if he takedown Usyk on this match because he has nothing to prove already.

[KTChampions]

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers?

  I bet that if you open the list of his fights, you will not find a single familiar name there except for Chisora and Cunningham.
Even Wilder said that Fury had no serious opponents other than Klitschko and himself.

If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

  funny contradiction.
By the way: Fury - Paikic, Fury knocked down in the 2nd round; Fury - Cunningham, Fury knocked down in the 2nd round 

By the way, do not forget that Fury's victory over Klitschko is a purely paper victory in court - initially the result of this fight was canceled due to the fact that Fury used doping (nandrolone).

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated

This looks like the truth. This paper champion seems to be patronized at the highest level, so I wouldn't be surprised by such a "win".

[JollyGood]

Fury is not overrated, it would be a mistake to say that because (as you rightly stated) he has a great fight record. If Fury was fully fit in the first fight against Wilder he would have won by KO but Fury was easing his way back in to the ring.

Usyk is a brilliant fighter but even with all his technical skills he will not be able to beat Fury. The good thing for Usyk will be his share of the fight purse. At 35 this should be the final fight of his career if he loses against Fury. If he miraculously defeats Fury he should have a rematch and then retire. Either way Usyk should not be facing any other opponent before he retires.

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers? If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated

[aioc]

There's a possibility that this fight will not push through Fury is demanding an outrageous amount of £500million and he even called Usyk 

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Fury accepted Usyk's call out after he outpointed Anthony Joshua in their rematch but 'The Gypsy King' has insisted it will take £500million to get him out of retirement..

 "The world's biggest fight has to be the world's biggest money. If I'm to put it all on the line vs some unknown foreigner. Boys better get that half billy, if not keep the little mug. If it was AJ it would have been free but it's not, only power in the waters."

Tyson Fury reiterates £500million demand for Oleksandr Usyk undisputed fight

If he will insist on this amount promoters will have a second thought if they will push through with the unification or he just wants to get much higher stakes when the negotiation starts rolling.

[JollyGood]

He knows he will not get anywhere near $500 million but he is pushing that agenda for the hype. It will be the richest fight in heavyweight boxing history with both fighters huge amounts from the purse. There will be a rematch clause inserted which means they will probably fight twice but on both counts I cannot see Usyk winning.

There's a possibility that this fight will not push through Fury is demanding an outrageous amount of £500million and he even called Usyk  

some unknown foreigner

Fury accepted Usyk's call out after he outpointed Anthony Joshua in their rematch but 'The Gypsy King' has insisted it will take £500million to get him out of retirement..

 "The world's biggest fight has to be the world's biggest money. If I'm to put it all on the line vs some unknown foreigner. Boys better get that half billy, if not keep the little mug. If it was AJ it would have been free but it's not, only power in the waters."

Tyson Fury reiterates £500million demand for Oleksandr Usyk undisputed fight

If he will insist on this amount promoters will have a second thought if they will push through with the unification or he just wants to get much higher stakes when the negotiation starts rolling.

[TopTort777]

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers?

  I bet that if you open the list of his fights, you will not find a single familiar name there except for Chisora and Cunningham.
Even Wilder said that Fury had no serious opponents other than Klitschko and himself.

You would better listen more a guy that has 0-2 against Fury If you say than Tyson Fury record was build by wins over no-name boxers, then I have a cool video for you - exposure of Mike Tyson. The idea of that video is that Mike Tyson was beating also no-name boxers. (video on Russian language, so those who are interested should turn on subs).

By the way, do not forget that Fury's victory over Klitschko is a purely paper victory in court - initially the result of this fight was canceled due to the fact that Fury used doping (nandrolone).

If Fury has cheated, then why after the fight Wladimir congratulated him with that victory, meaning he accepted that loss. Anyway, I dont remember Wladimir shouting he was robbed and asked a lot for a rematch.

Anyway, if this fight really happens, I wish the better and stronger fighter to win that fight in clear and dominant way. But not with judge help.

[JollyGood]

The way Fury is controlling the narrative is making me laugh  

He is basically saying he wants to sign a deal to fight Usyk in a £500 million deal or he will stay retired. Here are some of his words of wisdom:

Fury said: It’s the biggest fight in the world so it needs to be the biggest pay day in the world. Mayweather got £400million to fight Pacquiao, I want £500m

Fury said: I know they have got the money. They’ve offered Tiger Woods $1billion

Fury said: I have no real interest in Usyk. Some man that nobody can really say his name. A pumped-up middleweight.

Fury said: It’s not my fault he’s gone and battered AJ, some bodybuilder. It’s not my fault that happened twice in a row.

[fortunecrypto]

Fury said: It’s the biggest fight in the world so it needs to be the biggest pay day in the world. Mayweather got £400million to fight Pacquiao, I want £500m

Fury said: I know they have got the money. They’ve offered Tiger Woods $1billion

Fury said: I have no real interest in Usyk. Some man that nobody can really say his name. A pumped-up middleweight.

Fury said: It’s not my fault he’s gone and battered AJ, some bodybuilder. It’s not my fault that happened twice in a row.

Fury is playing hard to get, and while Usyk is very willing to fight Fury, Usyk has done what he cannot do because Fury is staying away from Joshua, whom Usyk beat twice in a row.

With so many up-and-coming heavyweight boxers people's interest will disappear, he should not ask for an outrageous amount and just unify the title then he can retire because he got all the belts, if he wants to stay retired, Usyk can eventually become the undisputed champion if he continues to fight, Fury may be great but its a big legacy if you are the undisputed title.

[TopTort777]

If usyk is really, as he himself says, ready to leave boxing after the fight with Fury, then I really hope that an exciting trilogy can come out of this, and no matter how things turn out, after that Usyk will really be able to say that he is leaving and it will be amazing with a good outcome.

Trilogy with AJ? Do you really think this is necessary? I think their recent fight showed everything. Specially with AJ saying "I dont know how you beat me". Honestly, I find it hard to believe Usyk vs Fury fight is going to happen. Fury has announced that he will fight only for a huge cheque. Usyk is not going to fall behind and would probably ask for a huge cheque also. In wont be a surprise, if their total reward will be 1 billion. 1 billion for a boxing fight. 1 billion is a an annual budget of some countries. Can promotors even afford that?

[aioc]

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

[electronicash]

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

[TravelMug]

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

Damn, that is huge money so not sure if they can afford that 500 million pounds. The only one that maybe can bring that money is the rich person somewhere in the Middle East - Saudi Arabia. The same venue that Usyk and Joshua fight. And if any case, I don't think that Arum can give that to Fury, although negotiations might be very smooth because as per Arum he is friends with Usyk manager or to that effect. So it is just the money that will be the 'problem'.

[Kemarit]

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

Yeah, an ultimatum, but you know what, Fury is really good at it, let's say the 500 million pounds is not met, what will happen? obviously there could be negotiations and maybe the price could be lower or terms could be other terms that could amount that kind of money for him.

So it's a good tactics for him, trying to let the public know much money he wanted and then weigh on how much money he can really get in the end, win-win situation.