[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK sponsored by Utopia

[Fundamentals Of]

It's hard to imagine how Usyk could inflict enough power on as big an opponent as Fury. If Usyk prefers to keep the distance, Fury has a reach advantage to earn points and make setup jabs for a powerful straight. If Usyk prefers to keep it close and slug it out against the much bigger man, Fury could do what he did to Wilder and other opponents, put his weight on him and drain his strength. Usyk should avoid clinches but he should also close the distance for him to connect hard. And it seems a hard thing to execute.

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[fortunecrypto]

I have bad news for all of us, it seems Fury is just taking us all for a ride with his demand but the truth is he will have an up-and-coming series “At Home with the Furys”,

Well, that's not what we want to hear, although I do recall his previous documentary actually being pretty decent. I can't remember what that is called, so not sure if it's related or not. That was basically about his home life, and how he copes with mental health. Sounds like this proposed series will be along the same lines.

I would've thought that the series could be delayed though, and I imagine there would be more interest in the series if they can market it on fight night to millions of people, but that's just me. I would've thought that the boxing purse would be higher than the Netflix one too.

I have a feeling that it is bait they just released news about the new series about his retirement, and many are not aware of it Fury's camp wants the offer coming and the deal done right away, he is very specific about what he wants and even put a deadline on it, of all the fights since he comes back this could be an easy fight for him, in terms of style and size he has the edge but he wants to make the most of it, I figure that he will eventually sign and will get a good paycheck but not really what he first demanded.

[wxa7115]

I also voted for Fury to win the unification fight. Of course Usyk will be bring something that maybe Fury hasn't face before, he is a technical boxer and uses a lot of movement.

But I think Fury will rely on his advantage, his height and length and his ring IQ to solved Usyk and maybe this fight will go to distance with a MD or SD win for Tyson Fury.

There is no doubt in my mind that this fight of Fury and Usyk will be something that we have not seen in a very long time, when people watch a heavyweight fight most the time they are expecting for the big punches and a huge knockout happening.

But both Fury and Usyk are very technical fighters so I'm quite interested in watching this particular fight, however Fury has an advantage when it comes to height, weight and reach, so I think it is going to be quite problematic for Usyk to overcome those disadvantages and get the win, which is why I voted for Fury to win.

[Kemarit]

It's hard to imagine how Usyk could inflict enough power on as big an opponent as Fury. If Usyk prefers to keep the distance, Fury has a reach advantage to earn points and make setup jabs for a powerful straight. If Usyk prefers to keep it close and slug it out against the much bigger man, Fury could do what he did to Wilder and other opponents, put his weight on him and drain his strength. Usyk should avoid clinches but he should also close the distance for him to connect hard. And it seems a hard thing to execute.

Yes, he will be in the dilemma for this fight, it seems that his strategy will not work or at least what he did against AJ. And he is not Klitschko by any means, or even Cunnigham that gave Fury one of his toughest fight. Cunningham is a good boxer, might not be the same as Usyk though. But we all know that Tyson has evolved so much that I would say that there is no blue print to beat him unless you really have that power, a one punch knock out, and I don't think that Usyk has that kind of power.

[aioc]

Fury will have his focus purely on any potential unification fight which will place him alongside the greatest heavyweight boxers before him. Things will never be the same again after Fury and family become part of a reality show, it will be difficult for him to be taken seriously again.

Any reality show might happen after he retires but even then what purpose will it serve him?

I guess he's setting up his life after boxing, and considering how he's been quite vocal about his life without boxing, and how it affects his mental health, I think looking for an alternative or something to keep him occupied is a good thing.

I'm not against the show, I just want to see the fights. Joshua, and Usyk ideally, and then he can drive off into the sunset, and do whatever show he wants. I just don't want to be robbed of not knowing who's best for definite, even though I'm a firm believer that Fury is the best of this era.

On paper he is but everything is validated in the ring, the boxing experts can only speculate Fury has nothing to worry about because of his size, skill, and popularity he is a standout, he needs this thing done, after this fight what more he can ask for and what can the community ask for, he can retire and we will all be glad and happy to see him retire, he can do two Netflix series party all night and do globe-trotting but this thing can't wait.

[lionheart78]

It's hard to imagine how Usyk could inflict enough power on as big an opponent as Fury. If Usyk prefers to keep the distance, Fury has a reach advantage to earn points and make setup jabs for a powerful straight. If Usyk prefers to keep it close and slug it out against the much bigger man, Fury could do what he did to Wilder and other opponents, put his weight on him and drain his strength. Usyk should avoid clinches but he should also close the distance for him to connect hard. And it seems a hard thing to execute.

This is where the camp comes in. Usyk's camp can analyze Fury's fights and find loopholes and weaknesses in his defense and study patterns of Fury's offense.  He can also learn the right angle to approach Fury.  I think there is no great boxer if their opponent happens to learn their weaknesses and boxing offense pattern.  Just like how Barrera outplayed the crowd favorite Naseem Hamed when Barrera learned and exploit the angle where Naseem is vulnerable.  Another example is how Marquez Ko'd Pacquiao in their 4th fight. 

It is a hard task indeed but it is not impossible.

[TopTort777]

In case someone will start "Fury is to big and Usyk is to small, and he is a cruiserweight" - Usyk has same height and weight as Muhammad Ali  Usyk is even a bit heavier than Mike Tyson. I hope that will stop all talks about Usyk being not real heavyweight. Real huge heavyweight boxer is Nikolai Valuev.

The great example of future Fury vs Usyk fight will be Ali vs Foreman fight. I might even say that it could be a copy of that old fight, but on higher speed.

[Welsh]

In case someone will start "Fury is to big and Usyk is to small, and he is a cruiserweight" - Usyk has same height and weight as Muhammad Ali  Usyk is even a bit heavier than Mike Tyson. I hope that will stop all talks about Usyk being not real heavyweight. Real huge heavyweight boxer is Nikolai Valuev.

The great example of future Fury vs Usyk fight will be Ali vs Foreman fight. I might even say that it could be a copy of that old fight, but on higher speed.

That might be true, but Fury is massive. Not the typical heavyweight which is something that should be highlighted. Fury is not only a absolute massive guy, he's fast, and quite agile for someone his size. Honestly, he's quite agile for heavyweight let alone his size.

Fury has the physical advantage, and that shouldn't be underestimated, especially since like I mentioned before, Fury really does use that to his advantage in his fights. He likes to lean on his opponents, and Usyk hasn't really had that whilst he's been in the heavyweight division. I'm not even sure why Joshua didn't do it.

[BitcoinPanther]

The great example of future Fury vs Usyk fight will be Ali vs Foreman fight. I might even say that it could be a copy of that old fight, but on higher speed.

But the thing is Usyk is not Ali and Fury is not Foreman.  That debunks the idea that the fight will go like Ali vs. Foreman  because they have different fight style and have different constitution and most of all they are different people.  But I never remove the possibility of Usyk winning its that statistics wise, Fury have the advantage.  It does generate some thought but of course the result will be seen on the canvas when the two boxer actually meet.

[coin-investor]

In case someone will start "Fury is to big and Usyk is to small, and he is a cruiserweight" - Usyk has same height and weight as Muhammad Ali  Usyk is even a bit heavier than Mike Tyson. I hope that will stop all talks about Usyk being not real heavyweight. Real huge heavyweight boxer is Nikolai Valuev.

The great example of future Fury vs Usyk fight will be Ali vs Foreman fight. I might even say that it could be a copy of that old fight, but on higher speed.

That might be true, but Fury is massive. Not the typical heavyweight which is something that should be highlighted. Fury is not only a absolute massive guy, he's fast, and quite agile for someone his size. Honestly, he's quite agile for heavyweight let alone his size.

Fury is a new breed of heavyweight, there's no heavyweight in the past that was as huge and as fast and as agile as Fury he can in fact considered as a super heavyweight who moves like a lightweight.

Fury has the physical advantage, and that shouldn't be underestimated, especially since as I mentioned before, Fury really does use that to his advantage in his fights. He likes to lean on his opponents, and Usyk hasn't really had that whilst he's been in the heavyweight division. I'm not even sure why Joshua didn't do it.

One of the heavyweights who uses his weight by leaning against his opponent is Lennox Lewis, he has done it in so many of his fight, and this tire his opponents, if you're big and you know how to use that advantage the guy who is smaller than you are is in big trouble, something Joshua did not or failed to do in the two matches against Usyk.

[Boristhecat]

I don't think that Fury often changes his mind - all these words and loud statements are a reminder of himself and marketing. As far as the fight fee he wants, it's obvious that no one is going to pay that amount. Therefore, this is either another "scandalous" statement to attract attention, or an attempt to get more money out of the organizers, or an attempt to leave without accusations of cowardice (maybe he is really afraid of Usyk and is ready to fight him only for very big money).

Fury had fought lots of tough opponents and some of them, I think are better than Usyk so I never think that Fury is afraid of Usyk,  But yeah, that loud statement might be a marketing approach to make himself worth more and get the attention of more people.

The question is not whether he is afraid of him or not, but in the ratio of what is at stake in the battle. Let's say Fury beats Usyk - what difference does that make for Fury who wants to go undefeated as a grand champion? Nothing since everyone will say that he won due to more weight. What happens if Usyk wins? It will be a complete disaster for Fury and the destruction of his entire legacy. Therefore, he is ready to take such a risk (even if it is small) only for very big money. In my opinion, from the point of view of game theory and the risk/profit ratio, this is the right decision.

[YuginKadoya]

This will be a bigger fight that is for sure but Tyson Fury promises to fight Alexander Usyk for half a billion pounds which will be £500 Million, for me Alexander Usyk is a faster fighter he can surely give a volume of punches on Tyson Fury, while Tyson Fury is a bigger opponent for Usyk, and one punch from Fury and that is the end for Usyk, but I really think that Tyson Fury is also a technical fighter and his fight IQ is really brilliant although Usyk will surely have the speed if Tyson Fury can see he timing for Usyk's punches and he can time it with Tyson Fury's own punches then we can likely to see Fury can knock out Usyk, Anthony Joshua really had a hard time with Usyk so it could be a volume of punches for Usyk to win the fight, so for Tyson Fury, his technical timing and one shot punch could likely knock Usyk down, and with a KO/TKO, while Alexander Usyk can win this with his technical speed and volume of punches to win this via Decision,

[robelneo]

We boxing fans love to speculate and to do a comparison on fighters from different eras and fighters we all would like to see in the ring, but honestly, this is one fight that is hard to speculate, people are saying different things when they Usyk fought Joshua and when Usyk is in the upper hand they praised him for his skill and toughness, the match up can be considered in favor of Fury, but Usyk has a great corner and has a high motivation because of what's happening in his country, he is more battle-tested than Fury, but all our prediction and speculation will end when these two fighters meet in the ring.

[Cryptomultiplier]

The fight between Fury and Usyk ain't gonna be where popcorn is served. It's gonna be hot. It's like two elephants fighting. If Usyk is going to destroy Fury, he should learn a.s.a.p how to evade those powerful wide blows. Once fury traps him into a corner, he ain't going to see where the punches come from. Usyk is very skillfull however and it is coupled with the fact he is much more aggressive than Joshua that made him win. With his skill, pace and aggression I doubt he could win Fury. That guy is a mountain of aggression himself.

[Shamm]

This is a good match up in heavyweight division as we all know that these two fighter is undefeated and very strong but in this fight as I observe the most favorite fighter is no other than Tyson furry, and yes we all know how he plays so without a doubt many people or gambler will support his fight but I think this is not an easy one for Tyson furry beacause his opponent USYK is undefeated and a hood record in his career too. So this will be a good and exciting fight.

[Inwestour]

One of the heavyweights who uses his weight by leaning against his opponent is Lennox Lewis, he has done it in so many of his fight, and this tire his opponents, if you're big and you know how to use that advantage the guy who is smaller than you are is in big trouble, something Joshua did not or failed to do in the two matches against Usyk.

Watch the fight again, Usik just dodged and immediately tried to drop the AJ from himself, so this trick does not work against Usik. The threat from Fury in close combat is such that he tries to hit from the clinch, look how many times he did it in a fight with Wilder. For me, there is no clear favorite in this fight, I can’t say that Fury will win because he is bigger or heavier, Usyk is hard to get into, he knows how to dodge well.

[serjent05]

The question is not whether he is afraid of him or not, but in the ratio of what is at stake in the battle. Let's say Fury beats Usyk - what difference does that make for Fury who wants to go undefeated as a grand champion? Nothing since everyone will say that he won due to more weight. What happens if Usyk wins? It will be a complete disaster for Fury and the destruction of his entire legacy. Therefore, he is ready to take such a risk (even if it is small) only for very big money. In my opinion, from the point of view of game theory and the risk/profit ratio, this is the right decision.

I highly agree with you, Fury wanted to have a bigger share of the pie,  well all boxers wanted to have a bigger share especially when he is higher in ranking.  Though I don't think Fury has nothing to gain if ever he defeated Usyk.  Defeating Usyk will strengthen Fury's legacy.

One of the heavyweights who uses his weight by leaning against his opponent is Lennox Lewis, he has done it in so many of his fight, and this tire his opponents, if you're big and you know how to use that advantage the guy who is smaller than you are is in big trouble, something Joshua did not or failed to do in the two matches against Usyk.

Watch the fight again, Usik just dodged and immediately tried to drop the AJ from himself, so this trick does not work against Usik. The threat from Fury in close combat is such that he tries to hit from the clinch, look how many times he did it in a fight with Wilder. For me, there is no clear favorite in this fight, I can’t say that Fury will win because he is bigger or heavier, Usyk is hard to get into, he knows how to dodge well.

Well, if this is so (Usyk good at dodging), then the more exciting the fight will be.  It is indeed a strategy of Fury to throw punches during clinch but I think Usyk will have an advantage in this since Usyk is shorter and needed a shorter distance to throw and hit his opponent as long as the hands of Usyk is on the right place to throw short punches during clinch.

[Welsh]

Fury is a new breed of heavyweight, there's no heavyweight in the past that was as huge and as fast and as agile as Fury he can in fact considered as a super heavyweight who moves like a lightweight.

Funny that you say that, since a lot of people claim the same for Usyk. Although, for me Fury is the superior technical boxer, but I know a lot of people will argue against that. It's easy to look a bit clumsy when you're bigger, and to be honest Fury does a good job of it, and is very technical. I think his large size takes away from that a bit at times. Plus, he does have a history of trying different tactics.

Usyk is good, but he hasn't been tested enough for me. Honestly, Joshua to me was the easiest route, and this second fight wasn't as dominant as the first. So, I have quite a lot of confidence in Fury getting the win.

[Ziskinberg]

Usyk is good, but he hasn't been tested enough for me. Honestly, Joshua to me was the easiest route, and this second fight wasn't as dominant as the first. So, I have quite a lot of confidence in Fury getting the win.

I guess Usyk will have a harder journey if it was Wilder whom he fought, Joshua caught him with some clean shots but he was able to stand, so the power of Joshua is not that strong compared to Wilder IMO.

I'm not sure if it's official, but according to the site below, Tyson Fury is heavily favored, so we can tell what the public are thinking about this fight.

https://www.covers.com/boxing/oleksandr-usyk-vs-tyson-fury-odds

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Tyson Fury   -280   Oleksandr Usyk   +220

[JollyGood]

It can be difficult to understand why Fury does the things he does and says the things he says making it difficult to work him out but most probably Fury will always be on the lookout to get in the ring for a unification fight to make the big money and then will get out. Fury does not come across as the sort of person that will box for years to come therefore he will need other activities to keep busy and keep the money rolling in.

Has it been confirmed though about a reality show and deal really been signed with a broadcasting company? I think if it did go ahead both Mr and Mrs Fury will be very much at home having camera crews around them 

I guess he's setting up his life after boxing, and considering how he's been quite vocal about his life without boxing, and how it affects his mental health, I think looking for an alternative or something to keep him occupied is a good thing.

I'm not against the show, I just want to see the fights. Joshua, and Usyk ideally, and then he can drive off into the sunset, and do whatever show he wants. I just don't want to be robbed of not knowing who's best for definite, even though I'm a firm believer that Fury is the best of this era.