[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK sponsored by Utopia

[KTChampions]

STEP ASIDE ‘Tell that dosser to get to the back of the queue’, says Tyson Fury in response to Deontay Wilder saying he wants title fight (with Usyk - my note)

Dumb-headed Fury admitted that he is in queue (like other contenders) to fight Usyk 
Now it will be difficult for him to negotiate a fight from the position “I am great and undefeated, therefore accept my conditions”, since it is obvious that Usyk is no less in demand and can negotiate at least on an equal footing. I think that this is a big failure of Fury's management - the long tongue of the blockhead played against himself.

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[Baofeng]

I saw this on my feed,

Report: Fury-Usyk Targeted For February, Super Bowl Weekend, In Middle East; 50-50 Purse Split ‘Is A Given’

According to Mark Kriegel of ESPN, the heavyweight title unification bout between WBC champion Tyson Fury of England and WBO, WBA, IBO and IBF champion Oleksandr Usyk of Ukraine may air on the same weekend––or the week after––of the NFL’s 57th Super Bowl, with the Middle East as the "most likely" location for the fight.

Kriegel, citing unnamed sources and conversations with Bob Arum, the head of Top Rank which promotes Fury, sounded a note of optimism about the chances for seeing the historic match-up, especially because, according to Kriegel, there does not appear to be any disagreement regarding the purse split for the fighters. An Usyk-Fury fight would have to be televised by ESPN, as the network has an exclusive broadcasting arrangement with Top Rank

https://www.boxingscene.com/report-fury-usyk-targeted-february-super-bowl-weekend-middle-east-50-50-purse-split-given--168679

And they have negotiated now? But let's see, it's on the week of the biggest sporting event in the US, although the venue of the fight will be in the Middle East.

So I'm not sure how it will sit up with their fans who want to watch the fight at least live. Nevertheless, their is PPV so it could be the best options for US fans.

[TopTort777]

In case someone will start "Fury is to big and Usyk is to small, and he is a cruiserweight" - Usyk has same height and weight as Muhammad Ali  Usyk is even a bit heavier than Mike Tyson. I hope that will stop all talks about Usyk being not real heavyweight. Real huge heavyweight boxer is Nikolai Valuev.

The great example of future Fury vs Usyk fight will be Ali vs Foreman fight. I might even say that it could be a copy of that old fight, but on higher speed.

That might be true, but Fury is massive. Not the typical heavyweight which is something that should be highlighted. Fury is not only a absolute massive guy, he's fast, and quite agile for someone his size. Honestly, he's quite agile for heavyweight let alone his size.

Fury has the physical advantage, and that shouldn't be underestimated, especially since like I mentioned before, Fury really does use that to his advantage in his fights. He likes to lean on his opponents, and Usyk hasn't really had that whilst he's been in the heavyweight division. I'm not even sure why Joshua didn't do it.

I know only one massive boxer - Nikolai Valuev. He was as huge as Fury, as strong as Fury, but slow as sloth. I am actually shocked that Fury is able to fight for 12 rounds and his gas tank isnt empty after first half of the fight. Indeed Fury likes dirty boxing to make his opponent exhausted. That would be hard to do against Usyk, as I think Usyk will try to ran away from that. Or, which most probably would happen, Fury will simply use his reach advantage 216cm, against Usyks 198cm. Fury can poke Usyk with jabs and every jab of a man that size really hurts.

[Cryptmuster]

Yesterday I saw a video on YouTube where the reporter says Usyk that Fury said that he would fight him for 500 million, Usyk just laughed. To this, he replied that he also wanted 500 million, and said that Fury was simply afraid of him. I don't like Fury as an athlete and as a person, he can refuse a rematch (as he did with Klitschko), citing mental problems, or something like that. Such a person does not deserve to remain invincible.

[robelneo]

I saw this on my feed,

Report: Fury-Usyk Targeted For February, Super Bowl Weekend, In Middle East; 50-50 Purse Split ‘Is A Given’

According to Mark Kriegel of ESPN, the heavyweight title unification bout between WBC champion Tyson Fury of England and WBO, WBA, IBO and IBF champion Oleksandr Usyk of Ukraine may air on the same weekend––or the week after––of the NFL’s 57th Super Bowl, with the Middle East as the "most likely" location for the fight.

Kriegel, citing unnamed sources and conversations with Bob Arum, the head of Top Rank which promotes Fury, sounded a note of optimism about the chances for seeing the historic match-up, especially because, according to Kriegel, there does not appear to be any disagreement regarding the purse split for the fighters. An Usyk-Fury fight would have to be televised by ESPN, as the network has an exclusive broadcasting arrangement with Top Rank

https://www.boxingscene.com/report-fury-usyk-targeted-february-super-bowl-weekend-middle-east-50-50-purse-split-given--168679

And they have negotiated now? But let's see, it's on the week of the biggest sporting event in the US, although the venue of the fight will be in the Middle East.

So I'm not sure how it will sit up with their fans who want to watch the fight at least live. Nevertheless, their is PPV so it could be the best options for US fans.

Usyk is very lucky to have this fight in a 50/50 split purse, Fury is demanding a lot for this, it's good that Usyk is not tied to any promoters that will hinder for the fight to be possible, I'm surprised how easy it has become but this is still a negotiation unless the contract is signed nothing is done deal yet, changes can still happen, the good thing is both fighters have the desire to unify the title whoever wins here is the greatest fghter of this generation, although already Fury is now the greatest British heavyweight champion.

[KTChampions]

Yesterday I saw a video on YouTube where the reporter says Usyk that Fury said that he would fight him for 500 million, Usyk just laughed. To this, he replied that he also wanted 500 million, and said that Fury was simply afraid of him. I don't like Fury as an athlete and as a person, he can refuse a rematch (as he did with Klitschko), citing mental problems, or something like that. Such a person does not deserve to remain invincible.

Fury is a dirty athlete, but such is boxing - if there are no real great champions, then you have to make them from what is. If you remove Usyk, Fury, Wilder and everyone who is at least something different and bright, then the promoters will start to sculpt a new "great champion" out of someone. This conveyor should not stop and the public should get what they want. The public wants epic fights and "great" champions. If there are no worthy ones, then they will be made from types like Fury.

[YuginKadoya]

The fight between Fury and Usyk ain't gonna be where popcorn is served. It's gonna be hot. It's like two elephants fighting. If Usyk is going to destroy Fury, he should learn a.s.a.p how to evade those powerful wide blows. Once fury traps him into a corner, he ain't going to see where the punches come from. Usyk is very skillfull however and it is coupled with the fact he is much more aggressive than Joshua that made him win. With his skill, pace and aggression I doubt he could win Fury. That guy is a mountain of aggression himself.

Did you see the latest fight of Oleksandr Usyk against Anthony Joshua, he can surely evade those powerful punches that come from Joshua, then I think he surely knows how to dodge a punch from Tyson Fury as well, if you saw Usyk in his fight against Joshua, Oleksandr Usyk is a volume puncher, he doesn't have those killer punch but he surely has that dominant footwork, in evading Fury's punches, and can retaliate a punch of his own,

This is a good match up in heavyweight division as we all know that these two fighter is undefeated and very strong but in this fight as I observe the most favorite fighter is no other than Tyson furry, and yes we all know how he plays so without a doubt many people or gambler will support his fight but I think this is not an easy one for Tyson furry beacause his opponent USYK is undefeated and a hood record in his career too. So this will be a good and exciting fight.

His undefeated alright but he doesn't have that power on his punch like Anthony Joshua, or Tyson Fury, but he got the speed to simply put a beating to Tyson Fury, and Oleksandr Usyk is sometimes getting into a safer fight, he surely avoids most of the punches and the speed for a Heavyweight,

[fortunecrypto]

Yesterday I saw a video on YouTube where the reporter says Usyk that Fury said that he would fight him for 500 million, Usyk just laughed. To this, he replied that he also wanted 500 million, and said that Fury was simply afraid of him. I don't like Fury as an athlete and as a person, he can refuse a rematch (as he did with Klitschko), citing mental problems, or something like that. Such a person does not deserve to remain invincible.

Fury is a dirty athlete, but such is boxing - if there are no real great champions, then you have to make them from what is. If you remove Usyk, Fury, Wilder and everyone who is at least something different and bright, then the promoters will start to sculpt a new "great champion" out of someone. This conveyor should not stop and the public should get what they want. The public wants epic fights and "great" champions. If there are no worthy ones, then they will be made from types like Fury.

Fury may be dirty but he gets the job done when you're a veteran in the ring you'll know all the tricks in the book and you'll try to do it as long as you are not caught, promoters don't build up great champions it's the trainers that do this, they are with their boxer in the ring and training camp to see that their boxer is doing great, promoters only do match up and motivate boxers with their offer of money and the public expects great fights from the cards the promoters have build up.

[TopTort777]

His undefeated alright but he doesn't have that power on his punch like Anthony Joshua, or Tyson Fury, but he got the speed to simply put a beating to Tyson Fury, and Oleksandr Usyk is sometimes getting into a safer fight, he surely avoids most of the punches and the speed for a Heavyweight,

Imho, Usyk has few power than current top heavyweights, because he is originally created to become an Olympic boxing champion. You dont see lots of knockouts during olympic games. Instead we see speed and 3*3min fight. Usyk is trained to score, not to knock out.

I am 1000% sure that his game plan in a fight against Fury would be throwing 4 punches on every punch Fury throw. I have though before and checked, but is Fury ready to keep the fight in such high temp, as Usyk impose him. I believe Fury will get exhausted faster than Usyk.

[JollyGood]

There have been 25 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 20
Usyk to win:  5

At the moment 80% of the votes are for Fury to win but surprisingly there have been 20% votes in favour of Usyk. They have shown faith in Usyk but I think they will be unwilling to place a bet for him to win because he will be facing Fury in the ring 

[Cryptmuster]

Fury is a dirty athlete, but such is boxing - if there are no real great champions, then you have to make them from what is. If you remove Usyk, Fury, Wilder and everyone who is at least something different and bright, then the promoters will start to sculpt a new "great champion" out of someone. This conveyor should not stop and the public should get what they want. The public wants epic fights and "great" champions. If there are no worthy ones, then they will be made from types like Fury.

Unfortunately it's true. You know, at least he looked athletic, like Wilder or Joshua or like many champions before them, there can see that they work hard on themselves, and Fury just big with chubby sides. He's definitely strong and has a good punch, but calling him invincible is to mutch...

Did you see the latest fight of Oleksandr Usyk against Anthony Joshua, he can surely evade those powerful punches that come from Joshua, then I think he surely knows how to dodge a punch from Tyson Fury as well, if you saw Usyk in his fight against Joshua, Oleksandr Usyk is a volume puncher, he doesn't have those killer punch but he surely has that dominant footwork, in evading Fury's punches, and can retaliate a punch of his own,

Of course, I watched this fight and even reviewed it twice (when watching the replay, I got the same adrenaline). Yes, Usyk will be able to dodge Fury's punches, but Fury is a dirty fighter, he can hit from the clinch or on the back of the head, it's normal for him, but if this fight does happen, then Usyk will have to defeat this dishonorable fighter!

[KTChampions]

Fury is a dirty athlete, but such is boxing - if there are no real great champions, then you have to make them from what is. If you remove Usyk, Fury, Wilder and everyone who is at least something different and bright, then the promoters will start to sculpt a new "great champion" out of someone. This conveyor should not stop and the public should get what they want. The public wants epic fights and "great" champions. If there are no worthy ones, then they will be made from types like Fury.

Fury may be dirty but he gets the job done when you're a veteran in the ring you'll know all the tricks in the book and you'll try to do it as long as you are not caught, promoters don't build up great champions it's the trainers that do this, they are with their boxer in the ring and training camp to see that their boxer is doing great, promoters only do match up and motivate boxers with their offer of money and the public expects great fights from the cards the promoters have build up.

You must be joking? If you look not at the greatest boxers but at slightly less great ones, then you will see that the "greatness" of many consists of a series of promoter tricks such as endless dodging of strong opponents (or simply uncomfortable ones) and other "strategies" that allow you to have in the Defeat column either zeros or very small numbers. Boxing is big business, don't think that it leaves brands at the mercy of chance.

[KTChampions]

You must be joking? If you look not at the greatest boxers but at slightly less great ones, then you will see that the "greatness" of many consists of a series of promoter tricks such as endless dodging of strong opponents (or simply uncomfortable ones) and other "strategies" that allow you to have in the Defeat column either zeros or very small numbers. Boxing is big business, don't think that it leaves brands at the mercy of chance.

Boxers have different fighting styles. Some prefer to be calculated-aggressive, while some prefer to be defensive to avoid being landed on strikes for the sake of judges scoring. Some trainers really train them to have their set of techniques to have the upper hand of the game. You mentioned endless dodging. While it is not really pleasant to watch a match full of dodging attempts from the opponent, it's one of their key to avoid punches for overall tally. It might be viewed as cowardice, but it is essential for them.

Although of course, a boxer must be able to land combination of powerful jabs too and not just be defensive all the time, dodging the opponent's attack. A balance combination of aggressiveness and defensiveness will help them achieve their goal which is winning. Because if a boxer will carelessly throw punches consecutively, he will end up being tired at the beginning of the game and that will be an advantage to the opponent's side. However, if a boxer will just keep on avoiding punches, but not throw powerful punches to his enemy, he will not accumulate a great score either. So, it should be a mixed balance of both to win the score of the judges and to win the heart of the audience as well.

You completely misunderstood me. I did not mean the tactics of the fight, but the tactics of choosing opponents. Haven't you ever heard that boxers (and not only them, but also other fighters, for example from the UFC) dodge uncomfortable opponents under various pretexts? Even Fury, who is now praised by everyone, shied away from a rematch with Klitschko.

[inthelongrun]

So this fight is most likely to happen after Fury agreed to a 50-50 purse split. Despite all the talking Fury is doing, I appreciate him for accepting the purse split which most people are expecting that he deserves a little more share as he's got more fans and the market. I like this fight to happen in a neutral location like the Middle East to avoid biased officiating.

I'm surprised to see the early odds. I thought I could see Usyk at 3.0. If it goes 3.0 then I will bet on Usyk. Fury is technical and fast but not as fast and technical as Usyk. Fury does have a huge size and reach advantage. And it's also near impossible for Usyk to stop Fury.

Meanwhile, David Haye mentioned Fury's ability to struggle against small good heavyweights. He did struggle a bit against the quick-moving but light-punching Cunnigham.

[babygun]

Yesterday I saw a video on YouTube where the reporter says Usyk that Fury said that he would fight him for 500 million, Usyk just laughed. To this, he replied that he also wanted 500 million, and said that Fury was simply afraid of him. I don't like Fury as an athlete and as a person, he can refuse a rematch (as he did with Klitschko), citing mental problems, or something like that. Such a person does not deserve to remain invincible.

I have the complete opposite, I like Fury as an athlete and as a person. He openly talked about his problems he was having (some years ago); is humble and always nice to watch during conferences. In the ring, he is simply the best and there is no doubt in my mind, if the fight would go through, that Fury will win it.

[Baofeng]

I saw this on my feed,

Report: Fury-Usyk Targeted For February, Super Bowl Weekend, In Middle East; 50-50 Purse Split ‘Is A Given’

According to Mark Kriegel of ESPN, the heavyweight title unification bout between WBC champion Tyson Fury of England and WBO, WBA, IBO and IBF champion Oleksandr Usyk of Ukraine may air on the same weekend––or the week after––of the NFL’s 57th Super Bowl, with the Middle East as the "most likely" location for the fight.

Kriegel, citing unnamed sources and conversations with Bob Arum, the head of Top Rank which promotes Fury, sounded a note of optimism about the chances for seeing the historic match-up, especially because, according to Kriegel, there does not appear to be any disagreement regarding the purse split for the fighters. An Usyk-Fury fight would have to be televised by ESPN, as the network has an exclusive broadcasting arrangement with Top Rank

https://www.boxingscene.com/report-fury-usyk-targeted-february-super-bowl-weekend-middle-east-50-50-purse-split-given--168679

And they have negotiated now? But let's see, it's on the week of the biggest sporting event in the US, although the venue of the fight will be in the Middle East.

So I'm not sure how it will sit up with their fans who want to watch the fight at least live. Nevertheless, their is PPV so it could be the best options for US fans.

Usyk is very lucky to have this fight in a 50/50 split purse, Fury is demanding a lot for this, it's good that Usyk is not tied to any promoters that will hinder for the fight to be possible, I'm surprised how easy it has become but this is still a negotiation unless the contract is signed nothing is done deal yet, changes can still happen, the good thing is both fighters have the desire to unify the title whoever wins here is the greatest fghter of this generation, although already Fury is now the greatest British heavyweight champion.

Yep, at least we should give credit for him to have this 50/50 without him thinking that he is the A-side on this fight. And maybe that split will obviously guarantee him already of a 8 figures money And there is a the PPV as well, and perhaps this is where Fury might get the lion share and the live gate sales. So still a win-win situation for him, and for Usyk too. This is the two biggest heavyweights right now and this fight should be made.  And now that that the pandemic is over, we are being treated with good fights this year alone.

[Kemarit]

It can be difficult to understand why Fury does the things he does and says the things he says making it difficult to work him out but most probably Fury will always be on the lookout to get in the ring for a unification fight to make the big money and then will get out. Fury does not come across as the sort of person that will box for years to come therefore he will need other activities to keep busy and keep the money rolling in.

Has it been confirmed though about a reality show and deal really been signed with a broadcasting company? I think if it did go ahead both Mr and Mrs Fury will be very much at home having camera crews around them 

Yes, it seems that the news is true, Tyson Fury, as you've never seen him before! Netflix announce At Home With The Furys documentary series with the boxer and his wife Paris, so it's like a Kardashian show.

Not sure how the public will address it though. Maybe we can see more funnier side of Tyson with his family. And obviously, this partnership with Netflix will make them another huge money, avenue for more wealth right after boxing.

[Welsh]

Not sure how the public will address it though. Maybe we can see more funnier side of Tyson with his family. And obviously, this partnership with Netflix will make them another huge money, avenue for more wealth right after boxing.

He's already done something similar, which showed his home life, and went through his mental health issues, which I've mentioned before. I think it was the "Tyson Fury The Gypsy King", but I might be mistaken. It was a good watch, and didn't have the drama in it like other reality tv shows you've mentioned.

It's not a bad thing, and like I said before I quite enjoyed watching it. A bit of perspective on his life, and how he still lives in a average persons home, and neighbourhood. Obviously, he has money, and that's quite evident with the things he has parked outside, but generally I got a decent impression of him. Obviously, documentaries are filmed with his consent, so they're unlikely to make him look bad.

[Jating]

Yesterday I saw a video on YouTube where the reporter says Usyk that Fury said that he would fight him for 500 million, Usyk just laughed. To this, he replied that he also wanted 500 million, and said that Fury was simply afraid of him. I don't like Fury as an athlete and as a person, he can refuse a rematch (as he did with Klitschko), citing mental problems, or something like that. Such a person does not deserve to remain invincible.

I have the complete opposite, I like Fury as an athlete and as a person. He openly talked about his problems he was having (some years ago); is humble and always nice to watch during conferences. In the ring, he is simply the best and there is no doubt in my mind, if the fight would go through, that Fury will win it.

Yeah, he Fury seems to have that kind of personality that you are going to like. I mean just an ordinary bloke, just a regular guy you can find in a bar and have a talk with everything under the sun. He had indeed has mental issues thats why he didn't fight for a long time and some problems with drugs too.

I guess everyone has its own opinion on boxers. Floyd get the most hate but for sure there will be fans around telling the opposite.

[KTChampions]

It's pretty funny that the preliminary quotes for the fight Usyk - Fury are as follows: 3 - 1.3
As we can see, bookmakers (who are responsible for their predictions with their money) are not at all sure of Fury's unconditional victory, quotes are very far from "unambiguous" even taking into account the fact that both boxers are of very different weights.
It's sad actually, I was hoping for more generous odds as I plan to bet on Usyk.