[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

[Natalim]

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

Odds are already out I think just a few days or weeks after the official announcement of this fight.

Naoya Inoue @ 1.02
Paul Butler @ 12

Source: https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42925198-inoue-naoya-butler-paul

Although betting options are still limited for an obvious reason that the fight still has months to go.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

[freedomgo]

Just let them be, cannot really blame them if they are inclined to see Butler win although that is almost near to impossible because their idol is now facing the monster of Japan which is also a knockout artist.

Yeah, I agree with you, after all the boxers performance will speak when they meet each other on the ring.

I believe that KO or TKO is likely the result in this fight but I think the bookies will just list a low odds on KO/TKO in favor of Inoue because they knew the likelihood outcome of the fight. That said, a win by a decision will be much more attractive but let's see it soon as we still have 2 more months to go.

I also think that there is a huge possibility of early to mid-round KO.  Unless Butler had prepared himself and trained his body to withstand the beating.  But of course, as a bettor and having more options to bet, a decision favors Inoue, KO win by Inoue on x round, we cannot remove the fact to think deeper in order to bag more winnings when we know that betting on early KO gives more reward but then we cannot remove the fact that Butler is also training hard to achieve an upset win or at least last the whole fight.  I know it is way too early talking about odds but well, I just can't help myself talking about it.  

if you are betting on butler right now, if upset will happen, it is 12x right now at stake. that is, if butler can beat inoue. but the likelihood of getting upset here is really slim in my opinion. if butler will come prepared, and so is inoue. but it is still interesting to watch how they are inside the ring. some boxers can pull off the fight because of their rigid preparation and working on their strategies. but once inside, those strategies fly off because they won't know what to do if the opponent also changes his movements.

Not really tempting the bettors who knew the real score between the two boxers and even if the bookies will list a much higher odds than the current one, the bettors won't still bother to bet on Butler, well except for the Butler's supporters out there. And IMO, saying that there's a slim chance of upset is an understatement, I know that Inoue's victory is not yet guaranteed but I believe that this fight might be an exemption.

[LUCKMCFLY]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.

I agree about that! Butler is nowhere near Inoue's league, I know somebody might argue with me on this especially Butler's fans but that is the truth and I definitely think that majority here would agree with me. Butler's only chance to get out from the fight safe is to get his camp throw in the towel at the end of their selected round, he might get criticized for playing safe but there is no other choice.

What happens is that when a boxer fights it safe, it is something that cannot be applied all the time because that steals a lot of attention and the people and the fans do not like it, more so if they make it all a fight attached only to the technical, because if that is the case, it is better that they do not do it because it would be very boring, if Inoue fights very, very defensively and Butler too (I hope not) it will be a fight that will bring disappointment, but in my personal opinion, I think Butler leaves iur with everything towards Inoue, that's what I think, he won't leave anything up in the air, and he's not going to leave like a loser who didn't want to give everything out of fear, that's the worst thing that could happen to a bnoxer, from my point of view I consider it a great failure.

Unfortunately, Butler is already expected to do that because he is a golden cow of the the Probellum, we might be wrong about this speculation but the chances is just too low to even consider that Butler would try and defeat Inoue. He probably knows that he doesn't have what it takes to defeat the monster. He might be criticized for that but I think he would prefer his health first rather than getting bullied in the ring.

Well for me this is something very relative, I have seen many opinions from some Butler fans that he is going to give a surprise and this can generate a great rivalry, in fact Butler is preparing as if this were to be the last fight of his life, that is something that I admire a lot because he is really taking this match very seriously, on the other hand I do not rule out that Inoue is one of the best boxers of these times, there are even many boxers who want to fight him, and also some challenges out there that they have done to him publicly, these things are taken into account in order to have a better show, because for me the one with the most fame is Inoue.

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

Odds are already out I think just a few days or weeks after the official announcement of this fight.

Naoya Inoue @ 1.02
Paul Butler @ 12

Source: https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42925198-inoue-naoya-butler-paul

Although betting options are still limited for an obvious reason that the fight still has months to go.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

Well this is one of the things that sometimes happens in boxing, the betting problem, for now there is still a long time to go, it is necessary to emphasize that emotions can increase over time, by December 13 we will be in the half of the World Cup in Qatar, so some bettors will be waiting for other bets, however I know that there are many fans who do not like football and who will be very thirsty to watch boxing, this is something that can help a lot, I wouldn't speculate yet, we all know that as the dates of these events get closer, emotions and interest start to rise, obviously by now most of the betting will be in Inoue's favor, Butler has to do something, or give declarations.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

Well, hope is here and everything has to be left in the hands of Butler, this data has to reach him and obviously it is not to his liking, I think it would not be to the liking of any boxer, so how is it that he has to raise the level of this and he can give as a guarantee that a good comment can put him at the top of the speculation, he has to change everything that people have in their minds, for me what Butler has to do is give statements in full training, he has to manage images, give some kind of interviews where you can see that he is in very good shape, I think this is nothing, there are many resources such as social networks, and it is a great opportunity.

[carlisle1]

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

Odds are already out I think just a few days or weeks after the official announcement of this fight.

Naoya Inoue @ 1.02
Paul Butler @ 12

Source: https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42925198-inoue-naoya-butler-paul

Although betting options are still limited for an obvious reason that the fight still has months to go.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

It will for sure if the fight will really take place, then expect additional options when the fight is near or on the day of the fight.

Options that may gave us interesting odd aside from that very small odd for a ML bet. Gamblers always aims for good and decent amount of

potential profits so even it's needed some time to wait they will take it instead of risking big amount of bet with a very low possible earnings.

[TravelMug]

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

Odds are already out I think just a few days or weeks after the official announcement of this fight.

Naoya Inoue @ 1.02
Paul Butler @ 12

Source: https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42925198-inoue-naoya-butler-paul

Although betting options are still limited for an obvious reason that the fight still has months to go.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

ML is not worth as you have said, not sure about the Asian handicap, I haven't try it.

But in any case the fight is still December and that odds could jump as well. However, Butler is really a huge underdog and I don't know if there will be a change of odds or at least Butler is going to close that gap. And so it is up to the fans or Butler to bet on him to offset the odds. Or for sure Inoue's backers also might throw some money but in a different betting options.

[TimeTeller]

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

Odds are already out I think just a few days or weeks after the official announcement of this fight.

Naoya Inoue @ 1.02
Paul Butler @ 12

Source: https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42925198-inoue-naoya-butler-paul

Although betting options are still limited for an obvious reason that the fight still has months to go.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

ML is not worth as you have said, not sure about the Asian handicap, I haven't try it.

But in any case the fight is still December and that odds could jump as well. However, Butler is really a huge underdog and I don't know if there will be a change of odds or at least Butler is going to close that gap. And so it is up to the fans or Butler to bet on him to offset the odds. Or for sure Inoue's backers also might throw some money but in a different betting options.

Just wait for other betting lines because for sure, it will open maybe in the next month or December.
With Inoue's popularity, I am certain bookies will open more betting lines here.
But for Butler fans, I think they will be risking their money if they will bet huge.
Getting upset here seems far-fetched, but that is my opinion. Others may be looking something different for this fight.

[Yaunfitda]

Might be better if we are going to look for the KO odds, but not sure what will it be. And then the per rounds and asian cup (which offer better odds if I'm not mistaken).

I still remember that we have discussed about the contract, it is sign already and that we can safe to say that December is really the target date?

[Pamadar]

Might be better if we are going to look for the KO odds, but not sure what will it be. And then the per rounds and asian cup (which offer better odds if I'm not mistaken).

I still remember that we have discussed about the contract, it is sign already and that we can safe to say that December is really the target date?

Good question, I don't see any update regarding to that matter. Is this fight still possible not to push thru or both camps already
in the signing stage, we are already talking about odds yet we are unsure if the fight will come true.

But if ever that they will meet inside the ring, for Inoue's fans it's best to wait for a much higher odd with a different type of bets
instead of taking that big risk with un-accepted odds.

Just saying though..

[Fundamentals Of]

Might be better if we are going to look for the KO odds, but not sure what will it be. And then the per rounds and asian cup (which offer better odds if I'm not mistaken).

I still remember that we have discussed about the contract, it is sign already and that we can safe to say that December is really the target date?

Good question, I don't see any update regarding to that matter. Is this fight still possible not to push thru or both camps already
in the signing stage, we are already talking about odds yet we are unsure if the fight will come true.

But if ever that they will meet inside the ring, for Inoue's fans it's best to wait for a much higher odd with a different type of bets
instead of taking that big risk with un-accepted odds.

Just saying though..

I think everything is already set in stone. I haven't heard of contracts signed but both teams and fighters have already accepted the specific fight details. There seems to be no complaint from the camp of Butler that they will be going to Japan for this undisputed match. I guess this is the kind of fight they are looking for. So everything's a done deal already. Odds are also released although still very limited at this point. But as expected Naoya will be a big favorite. Paul Butler's would be as high as 10.00.

[inthelongrun]

Might be better if we are going to look for the KO odds, but not sure what will it be. And then the per rounds and asian cup (which offer better odds if I'm not mistaken).

I still remember that we have discussed about the contract, it is sign already and that we can safe to say that December is really the target date?

Good question, I don't see any update regarding to that matter. Is this fight still possible not to push thru or both camps already
in the signing stage, we are already talking about odds yet we are unsure if the fight will come true.

But if ever that they will meet inside the ring, for Inoue's fans it's best to wait for a much higher odd with a different type of bets
instead of taking that big risk with un-accepted odds.

Just saying though..

I think everything is already set in stone. I haven't heard of contracts signed but both teams and fighters have already accepted the specific fight details. There seems to be no complaint from the camp of Butler that they will be going to Japan for this undisputed match. I guess this is the kind of fight they are looking for. So everything's a done deal already. Odds are also released although still very limited at this point. But as expected Naoya will be a big favorite. Paul Butler's would be as high as 10.00.

Probably this is not yet officially signed but since we aren't hearing any backlash then all details are probably agreed upon. Documents are mostly likely signed when Butler is in Japan.

As for the betting odds, Naoya Inoue is too favorite to win here even if Paul Butler is also a champion. Even an Inoue KO is probably around 1.20 or even below knowing he is a KO artist. Inoue by decision might have high odds but this is very unlikely. The most interesting bet is to guess which round Inoue KOs Butler. But this is also a very very difficult bet to win since Inoue based on his past fights can also last 12 rounds which means he may not rush for a KO and let it come.

[Hypnosis00]

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

Odds are already out I think just a few days or weeks after the official announcement of this fight.

Naoya Inoue @ 1.02
Paul Butler @ 12

Source: https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42925198-inoue-naoya-butler-paul

Although betting options are still limited for an obvious reason that the fight still has months to go.

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

No need to bet on moneyline, we have the asian handicap and it will all be available by December, so have more patience and continue just don't forget to put your bet when that time comes. It's not an easy opponent of Butler, but he has plenty of time to prepare, so he should be ready in this fight and show to the fans that he is not what they are expecting.

I think you are right, 2% return is even lower than the commission bookies made in every bet, so it's a big no. However, we cannot choose what odds to bet until the compete betting odds will be available, and I'm pretty sure lots of bettors are waiting for the odds.

[Natalim]

Might be better if we are going to look for the KO odds, but not sure what will it be. And then the per rounds and asian cup (which offer better odds if I'm not mistaken).

I still remember that we have discussed about the contract, it is sign already and that we can safe to say that December is really the target date?

Not sure if they had already signed a contract, but by the looks of it, seemed like there's no problem for this fight from happening.

Naoya Inoue, ESPN's No. 2 pound-for-pound boxer, agrees to title bout with Paul Butler, sources say
Still few months to wait, but as long as there's no bad news regarding this, we should not worry, instead, we have to trust them and just wait patiently.

I'm pretty sure Butler sees this as the biggest fight of his career, so pretty sure he is training hard to match the monster INoue.

[Pamadar]

Might be better if we are going to look for the KO odds, but not sure what will it be. And then the per rounds and asian cup (which offer better odds if I'm not mistaken).

I still remember that we have discussed about the contract, it is sign already and that we can safe to say that December is really the target date?

Good question, I don't see any update regarding to that matter. Is this fight still possible not to push thru or both camps already
in the signing stage, we are already talking about odds yet we are unsure if the fight will come true.

But if ever that they will meet inside the ring, for Inoue's fans it's best to wait for a much higher odd with a different type of bets
instead of taking that big risk with un-accepted odds.

Just saying though..

I think everything is already set in stone. I haven't heard of contracts signed but both teams and fighters have already accepted the specific fight details. There seems to be no complaint from the camp of Butler that they will be going to Japan for this undisputed match. I guess this is the kind of fight they are looking for. So everything's a done deal already. Odds are also released although still very limited at this point. But as expected Naoya will be a big favorite. Paul Butler's would be as high as 10.00.

Probably this is not yet officially signed but since we aren't hearing any backlash then all details are probably agreed upon. Documents are mostly likely signed when Butler is in Japan.

As for the betting odds, Naoya Inoue is too favorite to win here even if Paul Butler is also a champion. Even an Inoue KO is probably around 1.20 or even below knowing he is a KO artist. Inoue by decision might have high odds but this is very unlikely. The most interesting bet is to guess which round Inoue KOs Butler. But this is also a very very difficult bet to win since Inoue based on his past fights can also last 12 rounds which means he may not rush for a KO and let it come.

Something that really brings him to the upper side, imagine as even the KO win still have a small odd, though 1.20 is already acceptable for those who like to earn some from this upcoming fight.

Inoue, as fans know him, a KO artist who can outplay his opponent, his dominance will once again be witness inside his own ring and without any news with Butler's camp, it seems that the fight may happen. More on how you anticipate the performance of both boxers, odds may change from time to time during the live event. If you are chasing for a much decent, odd it's also good following bookies live offers.

[harizen]

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

In the first place, it's really obvious that Moneyline odds for Naoya Inoue do not make sense for placing a bet.

Besides, as a bettor, there is another way around to take advantage of Inoue being a Favorite like; on what round he will win, on what round he can Knock Out Butler, or if the Japanese monster will win via Decision, etc. Not unless risking high odds in favor of Paul Butler.

Anyways, let's just wait for other betting options. Don't expect though that Inoue will have decent odds of Winning between Round 1-3 for an obvious reason.

[Lanatsa]

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

In the first place, it's really obvious that Moneyline odds for Naoya Inoue do not make sense for placing a bet.

Besides, as a bettor, there is another way around to take advantage of Inoue being a Favorite like; on what round he will win, on what round he can Knock Out Butler, or if the Japanese monster will win via Decision, etc. Not unless risking high odds in favor of Paul Butler.

Anyways, let's just wait for other betting options. Don't expect though that Inoue will have decent odds of Winning between Round 1-3 for an obvious reason.

Betting lines or options are really indeed there or could really be offered with soo much better odds compared into that winner odds which its true that it wont really be that worth to risk on.

People would eventually be looking into different angle which they would able to bet on.Round 1-3 KO is something i do also look forward but lets see if Butler would able to hold it out.

I dont see that this one wont be ending up on TKO.Im not underestimating Butler but it seems that this would be the thing could happen. 

[Raflesia]

That kind of odds will not gonna attract bettors to bet on Inoue ML, it looks like an easy 2% return but would you guys have the balls to risk your money for 2% return? The chances to win is high but the risk is high as well, you choose.

In the first place, it's really obvious that Moneyline odds for Naoya Inoue do not make sense for placing a bet.

Besides, as a bettor, there is another way around to take advantage of Inoue being a Favorite like; on what round he will win, on what round he can Knock Out Butler, or if the Japanese monster will win via Decision, etc. Not unless risking high odds in favor of Paul Butler.

Anyways, let's just wait for other betting options. Don't expect though that Inoue will have decent odds of Winning between Round 1-3 for an obvious reason.

If you look at Naoya's previous fight against Donaire Kans to make this a KO, it's obviously very big.
Even though Butler is still strong enough and able to fight but I personally feel that a knockout is still possible and this could also happen very quickly.

Inoue is still amazing to me and I'm definitely going to bet on a knockout under round 4.

[goinmerry]

Even though Butler is still strong enough and able to fight but I personally feel that a knockout is still possible and this could also happen very quickly.

Paul Butler may be strong (regardless of his opponent) during his early years as his KO rate in those years is impressive. However, during his last 15 fights since 2016, about 11 of these wins came from decisions that make me believe that his power is now slowly fading where in fact, there are even no big names in those last 15 fights.

Sorry to say that alone is the reason why he doesn't have any chance to win against Inoue. For those saying upset is possible, I don't understand what is the basis to believe that Butler can upset Inoue. There's even more chance to hit a lottery jackpot compare to expecting an upset win by Butler of course if they are both healthy on the day of the fight.

[bbc.reporter]

This time it's against Paul Butler, it's no use thinking that he will win because that won't happen even if Inoue is feeling bad or ill in the day of their fight. I know Inoue is not that kind of boxer who underestimates his foe but it's too clear that Butler won't stand a chance especially if we are talking about withstanding punches, he can't survive that.

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

It's indeed a huge challenge for Butler because the majority of the boxing fans do not believe he has a shot of beating the monster Inoue. Butler has to double his training, not only improve his running style, but he also needs to improve his power because if Inoue cannot feel his power, well, what can we expect, Inoue will just continue to be aggressive and will look for a KO.

A boxer can double, triple his training or more, however, there is nothing he can change. Butler is slower, older and the weaker boxer. His team can use different strategies to outsmart Inoue, however. But there is nothing that can change the storyline of their destinies. Inoue will win with a knockout and continue to challenge himself to become the pound for pound best boxer. Butler will be a forgotten character in this story. He will be taken out of the ring on a stretcher hehehehhee. Yes, another stretcher joke.

[inthelongrun]

Even though Butler is still strong enough and able to fight but I personally feel that a knockout is still possible and this could also happen very quickly.

Paul Butler may be strong (regardless of his opponent) during his early years as his KO rate in those years is impressive. However, during his last 15 fights since 2016, about 11 of these wins came from decisions that make me believe that his power is now slowly fading where in fact, there are even no big names in those last 15 fights.

Sorry to say that alone is the reason why he doesn't have any chance to win against Inoue. For those saying upset is possible, I don't understand what is the basis to believe that Butler can upset Inoue. There's even more chance to hit a lottery jackpot compare to expecting an upset win by Butler of course if they are both healthy on the day of the fight.

Yes, it is highly unlikely for an upset to happen here. Paul Butler is a world-class fighter but Inoue is a future Hall of Famer. Butler and Inoue had a common opponent in the name of Emmanuel Rodriguez. Emmanuel Rodriguez took the then-vacant IBF belt by taking Butler to school and scoring 2 knockdowns. The following year, Inoue easily obliterated Rodriguez in just 2 rounds, knocking him 3 times. Styles make fights but Butler is not heavy-handed nor faster than Inoue.

Of course, there's always the chance for an upset no matter how small it is. Just like winning a lottery.

[Ziskinberg]

Styles make fights but Butler is not heavy-handed nor faster than Inoue.

Exactly, that's why there's only a very little chance that Butler will win this fight. But I admire him for being brave, if he will lose, I hope he will not be injured in the fight so he can still continue his career. The thing is, if Inoue goes up in weight, maybe he can still fight and be a bantamweight champion again.