Abuse of Edit function to reach quota

[Ultegra134]

A few days ago I saw two specific users, of the same signature campaign (wouldn't be surprised if both accounts belong to the same person) making blank replies around the forum. At first, I thought nothing of it but then it struck me, the posts were a few minutes before midnight, indicating that they're trying to reach the minimum post quota and proceed to abuse the edit function later, in order to fill in their replies. Went to sleep and checked in the morning only to be proven correct, both users had edited the blank posts and filled in some spam 1-liners.

It's pretty evident that this signature campaign is filled with spammers, who don't mind promoting a service that has scammer numerous users, and are also abusing basic forum functions in order to reach their minimum quota.

They're the following two users, Theones and bitgov:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=502210
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253969

Excuse me for the photos, they're not that convenient looking from my phone.

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It's pretty evident that this signature campaign is filled with spammers, who don't mind promoting a service that has scammer numerous users, and are also abusing basic forum functions in order to reach their minimum quota.

I'd say you're right, seems like an identical way of posting and burstposting.
unfortunately, it is a 1xbit signature campaign, they are already well known to have participants in the campaign who manage multiple accounts. When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.

[decodx]

Basically, it's the same old story we've already had with users AndySt and og kush420. And also, tranthidung already wrote about it in this thread: Spam reserved post, edit later to hit post quota is back

It's no surprise that both are members of the 1xbit campaign, most of their participants are spammers anyway. It might be worth reporting these posts to the moderators, but they will probably edit them before the moderators can take action.

[yahoo62278]

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

It's pretty evident that this signature campaign is filled with spammers, who don't mind promoting a service that has scammer numerous users, and are also abusing basic forum functions in order to reach their minimum quota.

Yeah, the 1xbit scam decided to hire only spammers since quality posters won't bother to ruin their reputations advertising for scam. I think about 95% of the participants have no knowledge about sports and gambling
I don't even bother reading most replies posted by anyone wearing an 1xbit signature

[RapTarX]

This isn’t first time here. A lot of users are having this practices for a quite long time. You know bitcointalk isn't anymore the forum it used to be/it should be. It has gone fully commercial.

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

Users will have an argument against a ban for this. It can be a low value content when posted but when edited, it may not be the same low value content. I guess moderator won't take action then.

[Ultegra134]

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

By taking a quick look at the second and third photo, you can see that 7 and 5 posts respectively were completely blank, but also all done within a few minutes before 12 am. These users are probably following such pattern for quite some time and many of their posts are conducted this way. Can moderators see that they've been edited? If not, does ninjastic.space record such changes?

This isn’t first time here. A lot of users are having this practices for a quite long time. You know bitcointalk isn't anymore the forum it used to be/it should be. It has gone fully commercial.

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

Users will have an argument against a ban for this. It can be a low value content when posted but when edited, it may not be the same low value content. I guess moderator won't take action then.

In this specific case, the ending posts are not too much of a contribution to the discussion. However, back in 2017, I remember things worse, before the introduction of the merit system, the forum was filled with spammers. Currently, I believe that this is caused because of 1xbit's campaign. It's offering low quality/spam posters an opportunity to earn money, in any other scenario, they wouldn't have been accepted in any signature campaign.

[Jatiluhung]

actually the one who did this was not only the two users you mentioned above. but there are still other users. I still remember a few days ago when I was reading a thread on an economics board I found a lot of empty reply posts. but a few hours later the blank reply was edited and filled with a normal reply. But if I find it again then I report it to the moderators as spam. I guess that's enough. because as long as I report a spam post, the moderators always move quickly to delete it. sometimes even less than an hour. so that this step becomes effective. so that the spammer can't find the post to edit again because the post has been deleted by the moderator.
simple steps and in accordance with the function and purpose of the 'report to moderator' button.

[Findingnemo]

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

Users will have an argument against a ban for this. It can be a low value content when posted but when edited, it may not be the same low value content. I guess moderator won't take action then.

If some user get mass report against them then mods will actually take a look at their post history and delete their post for spam and low quality which also may comes with temp ban for weeks or 30 days so enough reports are needed against a user in these kind of situations.

[DaveF]

This has been discussed many times in the past, even had a discussion about it in meta a month ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5407593
Report them and move on.

I keep saying it, but the campaigns that put up with this are crap and don't care. So in the end they are crap posts from crap posters who are supporting crap scams.

If those people get banned an entire new crop of crap posters show up.

-Dave

[Pandu Geddon]

looks like all we can do is report user posts to moderators. see both accounts are on campaigns that don't mind this. don't bother telling the campaign manager. they will think this is useless.
perhaps the case will be different when the two accounts are part of the campaign of a manager who does have a good reputation. such as similar cases that have been published previously.

so all members who might be more concerned about this can make a report when they see an account with this kind of behavior. it will help the forum look cleaner.

[Ultegra134]

This has been discussed many times in the past, even had a discussion about it in meta a month ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5407593
Report them and move on.

I keep saying it, but the campaigns that put up with this are crap and don't care. So in the end they are crap posts from crap posters who are supporting crap scams.

If those people get banned an entire new crop of crap posters show up.

-Dave

In my opinion, it's not the user's fault in this case. 1xbit is providing a loophole for spammers and abusers to take advantage of. No other campaign would want to pay such posters, if 1xbit's campaign didn't exist or was prohibited on the forum, we wouldn't see so many abusers. Reporting them individually probably won't do much, moderators may not be present when the post is made and by the time they investigate them, the posts will already be edited and filled in.

As long as 1xbit continues paying its participants, we'll see examples like these.

[dataispower]

A few days ago I saw two specific users, of the same signature campaign (wouldn't be surprised if both accounts belong to the same person) making blank replies around the forum. At first, I thought nothing of it but then it struck me, the posts were a few minutes before midnight, indicating that they're trying to reach the minimum post quota and proceed to abuse the edit function later, in order to fill in their replies. Went to sleep and checked in the morning only to be proven correct, both users had edited the blank posts and filled in some spam 1-liners.

You don't have to blame the user because it's 1×bit that is causing all this shit post and spamming, when you take your time to read post of 1×bit participants, it take more time to understand them and it's very few of them that do make a meaningful post, the two accounts is working under the 1×bit so you don't need to be angry, some of them i do ignore so that i will not see their numbers of shit posting and spamming everywhere, go to the gamblling section all of them is discussing trash, because they are posting to meet their weekly quota and receive payment.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I think I've come across a thread like this previously, can't tell exactly who started the previous thread but I do know that this discovery of the op is nothing new, unfortunately, (like examplens said), it's always 1xbit campaign participants who are culprits to this kind of posting habits, there is nothing really we can do, their accounts are already tagged, the campaign manager is probably aware of this posting habit too, this posting, I also don't know if this can be classified as post busting, but even if it is, does it really matter? Looking at the type of accounts involved.

[BITCOIN4X]

I think I've come across a thread like this previously, can't tell exactly who started the previous thread but I do know that this discovery of the op is nothing new, unfortunately, (like examplens said), it's always 1xbit campaign participants who are culprits to this kind of posting habits, there is nothing really we can do, their accounts are already tagged, the campaign manager is probably aware of this posting habit too, this posting, I also don't know if this can be classified as post busting, but even if it is, does it really matter? Looking at the type of accounts involved.

I think it's important to pay attention especially if we care about spammers. I think spam should be reported to moderators regardless of who did it, so we don't really have to ignore it despite the fact that those participants no longer care about their reputation.

The more spam posts that are removed the better for the forum regardless of the participant of any campaign. So there's no reason to let 1xbit posters post spam, edit them any time for his sneaky purposes to get paid on campaigns without reporting it to the moderator. Although the campaign operator does not care, but the contribution of other users to control spammers is highly expected.

[_BlackStar]

The more spam posts that are removed the better for the forum regardless of the participant of any campaign. So there's no reason to let 1xbit posters post spam, edit them any time for his sneaky purposes to get paid on campaigns without reporting it to the moderator. Although the campaign operator does not care, but the contribution of other users to control spammers is highly expected.

Some of them are on my ignore list, so I hope I don't read the next post again from them. Consciously or not, reporting spammers is a free task for anyone and I never thought forum would force us to do it just because there are a lot of junk posts. Anyone can report it, it's never mandatory but it might be useful for forum.

They're the following two users, Theones and bitgov:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=502210
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253969

I've tagged both accounts, so I hope they'll get banned if they really break the rules. Editing posts doesn't violate forum rules, but it may be unethical behavior to earn money from campaign. But don't expect the managers of the campaigns they promote to care about the quality and bad habits of the participants.

[Asiska02]

In my opinion, it's not the user's fault in this case. 1xbit is providing a loophole for spammers and abusers to take advantage of. No other campaign would want to pay such posters, if 1xbit's campaign didn't exist or was prohibited on the forum, we wouldn't see so many abusers. Reporting them individually probably won't do much, moderators may not be present when the post is made and by the time they investigate them, the posts will already be edited and filled in.

As long as 1xbit continues paying its participants, we'll see examples like these.

I couldn't really see the illustration you posted. However, if I understand what you're saying well, those users make shit posts to fill out their signature post counts before going back to change them, if I'm right. Does that imply that the campaign manager will simply pay them whenever the posts are complete, regardless of whether they provide great content or not? If I'm not mistaken, promoting a project also requires quality posts. Does this mean that the campaign managers don't just care because they've already been labeled scammers in the forum?

[skarais]

If I'm not mistaken, promoting a project also requires quality posts.

That's right, quality posters are needed by every manager to promote a project. But note that not all managers care about quality but they care about quantity.  You can find some unreputable community managers in the bounty section who don't care about the quality of their participants' posts, that's just an example.

Does this mean that the campaign managers don't just care because they've already been labeled scammers in the forum?

They don't seem to care anymore, they only care about the quantity of posts from their campaign participants. My advice if you want to contribute, then report the post when you find it. No need to create thread, just report to moderator.

[The Cryptovator]

I agree with examplens, technically they are burst posting. Simply leave a blank post then they write at the same time all the posts. Even you may find plagiarism from such users if you do a deep investigate. That's why managers should read the quality of the post during selection. Anyway, I don't think it's against forum rules but definitely, it should be against campaign rules. I have seen some campaign managers don't accept the edited post. So it's a better solution IMO. Just report to the manager.

[Doan9269]

I think I've come across a thread like this previously, can't tell exactly who started the previous thread but I do know that this discovery of the op is nothing new, unfortunately, (like examplens said), it's always 1xbit campaign participants who are culprits to this kind of posting habits, there is nothing really we can do, their accounts are already tagged, the campaign manager is probably aware of this posting habit too, this posting, I also don't know if this can be classified as post busting, but even if it is, does it really matter? Looking at the type of accounts involved.

It hurt abit seing that post bursting is only applicable to campaigns rules but not on the forum rules and regulations, else i would have suggested a report to the moderators, about the campaign, enough have been said concerning it, if it's been called a spamming and scamming campaign of which it is, must it still behave it, I've seen some of their threads on reputation with the claim that they are back and steady to clear all the previous mess ups but base on what we can all see, they are rather constituting more to their shotfalls since they never stopped to promote or admit scam related activities just like in the case of this one.

[dataispower]

I agree with examplens, technically they are burst posting. Simply leave a blank post then they write at the same time all the posts. Even you may find plagiarism from such users if you do a deep investigate. That's why managers should read the quality of the post during selection. Anyway, I don't think it's against forum rules but definitely, it should be against campaign rules. I have seen some campaign managers don't accept the edited post. So it's a better solution IMO. Just report to the manager.

Probably it's not against forum rules, but if this have to be cut off totally it should be the campaign Managers duty to deny whosoever they notice that is burst posting and edit and post, so if campaign manager deny the user twice payment you will see correction will take place without report.
Secondly if you notice such you exactly report the post, because such user is not making any meaningful contribution to the forum. Another thing is that, it's a 1xbit participants, other people participating in other campaigns will not edit post and post.

[Awaklara]

Just report to the manager.

because the campaign followed by both accounts is 1xBit. I guess there's no need to bother reporting to the bounty manager. there is a high chance that the campaign participants from the scam site are also doing the same behavior with the two accounts.

if you report to the bounty manager I guess you will only get a thank you from the manager. because if you look at the rules in the 1xBit campaign thread, spam, offtopic, and bounty posts are not counted. don't know if burst posting will be counted or not. the most important thing for such a project campaign is quantity, not quality.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

because the campaign followed by both accounts is 1xBit. I guess there's no need to bother reporting to the bounty manager. there is a high chance that the campaign participants from the scam site are also doing the same behavior with the two accounts.

if you report to the bounty manager I guess you will only get a thank you from the manager. because if you look at the rules in the 1xBit campaign thread, spam, offtopic, and bounty posts are not counted. don't know if burst posting will be counted or not. the most important thing for such a project campaign is quantity, not quality.

When a campaign has 100 posts per week requirement to reach the highest quota of the payment then how would you expect a participant will do their regular posting. The forum became a cash cow for some spammer. Earlier I was calculating one user who may have 5 Hero and above accounts. Each accounts makes them $60 on average will make them $300 per week which is like $1,200 a month LOL

[Awaklara]

When a campaign has 100 posts per week requirement to reach the highest quota of the payment then how would you expect a participant will do their regular posting. The forum became a cash cow for some spammer.

I understand your point. Hence, the OP reveals how spammers fill their weekly quota to get paid. they mark posts they want to reply to quickly. and one day they will edit the post. this may be a problem when the problem is a campaign handled by a manager with a good reputation on the forum. but this 1xbit. what can we expect from a scam project manager?

something we might still be able to do is report posts from spammers. It looks like we've also seen some 1xbit campaign participants know a lot of their posts are being deleted. There are even cases of plagiarism.

[aylabadia05]

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When a campaign has 100 posts per week requirement to reach the highest quota of the payment then how would you expect a participant will do their regular posting. The forum became a cash cow for some spammer. Earlier I was calculating one user who may have 5 Hero and above accounts. Each accounts makes them $60 on average will make them $300 per week which is like $1,200 a month LOL

An example that fits the current situation very well. When posts are made only to pursue targets, the results will definitely be far from expectations. This means that the quality of posts is no longer an important thing to pay attention to. Never mind the quality that must be prioritized, the writing procedure is also neglected in order to earn $300 per week x for one month, ETC. I can't imagine what will happen and I don't mean to accuse anyone of anything.

In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

[skarais]

I can't imagine what will happen and I don't mean to accuse anyone of anything.

A good solution you might think of is to report spam posts to moderators and let them handle it. I don't like to say I'm a good poster while other users are bad posters, but other people's mistakes should be a reflection for me to maintain quality.

In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

If you are aware about those drawbacks then it will be better for you to focus on local boards instead of forcing to post on English boards. I think you will only increase the amount of spam due to poor English, it is also not good if you keep it up.

[FatFork]

In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I'm concerned, your posts are perfectly fine, and your level of proficiency in English is more than adequate. Since many of us are not native English speakers, we may not be able to write perfect posts, but it doesn't matter that much as long as they are relevant and not spammy. Just keep your sentences brief, use proper grammar, and don't post where you don't know what you're talking about, and you'll be fine!

[KingsDen]

In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

I don't know if you are being figurative in this reply. But this particular post of yours is not far behind standard. The wordings are nicely fixed also and would not stress anyone to understand. If you could find a means to make this reply, it therefore means you can be consistent and improve also. For a non native English user to make such a reply is cool already.

But in order to make a clearer denotation, it is advisable to only involve in conversations you are conversant with, otherwise you read only and move on. Also remember that the most effective way to communicate effectively is by approaching everything from the natural aspect of it. Don't pose yourself more than your ability and don't act as if you are under compulsion to impress anyone. This is a bitcoin discussion forum and not a high school final year research and hypothesis forum.

[348Judah]

Just report to the manager.

because the campaign followed by both accounts is 1xBit. I guess there's no need to bother reporting to the bounty manager. there is a high chance that the campaign participants from the scam site are also doing the same behavior with the two accounts.

if you report to the bounty manager I guess you will only get a thank you from the manager. because if you look at the rules in the 1xBit campaign thread, spam, offtopic, and bounty posts are not counted. don't know if burst posting will be counted or not. the most important thing for such a project campaign is quantity, not quality.

I don't blame tjose guys for doing such only because they finds the campaign itself the most suitably ground for them to perform such, who dare tries that with other campaign managers, all because the campaign has been on several occasions reported as scam gives them more upper hands to executing post bursting and others irrelevant acts with the campaign, if a house is shaking, check its background, but it also sounds unprofessional if the campaign manager is unaware of their doings.

[Mpamaegbu]

I don't know if it's from my side but I like to report that the picture clarity shared by OP is blunt. I guess that's from the device used in taking the pictures or from the angle they were taken. Anyway, that's besides the issue. I observed that abuse as reported and that's very horrible to say the least. The best way to tackle such edit abuse would've been to report the user to the manager of the campaign they're in. That's if they're in a signature campaign at the time of the crime. It's not even as if they won't be in a campaign to do such. Those who aren't won't feel the rush to meet up weekly quota. Managers of BTC paying signature campaigns will care to take the matter up and scrutinize the user. I know it's a different ball game for bounty campaigns where anything goes and most bounty mangers don't even care to check their hunters. In the case of bounties, the user should be reported to mods.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.

So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.

[Lucius]

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.

Maybe it was the number of participants, which was 100+, and this campaign with which you are making a comparison does not seem to me to be even close to aggressive enough to cause the same reaction. It is possible that today's scam-spammers are hiding where the least attention of spam-hunters is, so the whole thing has become quite irrelevant.

If theymos would apply the same criteria to 1xbit, then we would just need good reports to get rid of them.

[Ultegra134]

I don't know if it's from my side but I like to report that the picture clarity shared by OP is blunt. I guess that's from the device used in taking the pictures or from the angle they were taken. Anyway, that's besides the issue. I observed that abuse as reported and that's very horrible to say the least. The best way to tackle such edit abuse would've been to report the user to the manager of the campaign they're in. That's if they're in a signature campaign at the time of the crime. It's not even as if they won't be in a campaign to do such. Those who aren't won't feel the rush to meet up weekly quota. Managers of BTC paying signature campaigns will care to take the matter up and scrutinize the user. I know it's a different ball game for bounty campaigns where anything goes and most bounty mangers don't even care to check their hunters. In the case of bounties, the user should be reported to mods.

They are screenshots from my phone. They can even be zoomed in if you click on each photo individually. I didn't have the time frame to turn on my computer in order to get decent print screens from there. Chances are that some of his posts would have already been edited out by then.

When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.

So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.

I don't know about Yobit's campaign; either I wasn't active back then or I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, 1xbit is consisted of 38 participants, certainly not an insignificant number. Roobet, for instance, has 60 members, which is one of the largest and most established campaigns. Most of 1xbit's participants feature terrible post quality, with only a few of them being average enough. The forum isn't filled with their spam posts, but there's a decent amount stemming from them.

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So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.

I don't know about Yobit's campaign; either I wasn't active back then or I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, 1xbit is consisted of 38 participants, certainly not an insignificant number. Roobet, for instance, has 60 members, which is one of the largest and most established campaigns. Most of 1xbit's participants feature terrible post quality, with only a few of them being average enough. The forum isn't filled with their spam posts, but there's a decent amount stemming from them.

there is no accurate record of how many members participated in the Yobit campaign, because they managed that part, and they never announced it.
I know yahoo62278 was in charge of banning spammers from the campaign, and according to this thread, as far as I counted, 535 accounts were banned from that campaign. It doesn't matter if it's because of spam or a bad reputation.
Plus warned members and those who were within the limits of what is allowed on the forum. I would say that it was the biggest spam attack on the forum.

[Issa56]

After seeing the post I was curious to see their profile, immediately I clicked on the first link I saw the user wearing 1xbit signature, I clicked on second link and I noticed the user was wearing the same signature campaign. Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site, the two accounts might be operated by one person, but even if they are tag as shit posters, it those not have any effect because they are already having enough negative trust, I just think it's better we protect our name, some of us might think it's just a nickname and they don't care, but the name you use here is what all of us knows you as, so I believe that's your name. That's why I think we shouldn't spoil out reputation just because of money.

[RapTarX]

Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site

There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.

[Ultegra134]

Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site

There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.

It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns. On the one hand, I don't blame them; they wouldn't manage to participate in any other event. On the other hand, they're taking the easy way out instead of spending more time around the forum getting to know each other better and improving their post quality, which could potentially lead to having a steady source of income through the forum for years to come. 1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

[Taskford]

Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site

There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.

It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns. On the one hand, I don't blame them; they wouldn't manage to participate in any other event. On the other hand, they're taking the easy way out instead of spending more time around the forum getting to know each other better and improving their post quality, which could potentially lead to having a steady source of income through the forum for years to come. 1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

They will not care about this report because they have nothing to lose already there account has been red tag already for various unwanted activities watching those guys nor giving to much attention on what they do is useless. People like them will not care if they promote a good platform or even do the right thing because all they care is the money they can earn from shady platform they promote.

[Awaklara]

1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

maybe the account taking part in the 1xbit campaign comes from a trading account. there will be a consideration when they buy a negative trust account at a lower price. and to join the 1xbit campaign, within a few weeks may already return the capital used to buy the account. so even if their account will be permanently stigmatized, it won't have much of an impact on them.

I'm not sure this is true, but, most likely, the two accounts you mentioned are also trading accounts.
there's nothing more to pay attention to from the campaign participants in my opinion. if you see them making shit posts. we can report moderators. I think that's the best we can do.

[virasog]

1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

maybe the account taking part in the 1xbit campaign comes from a trading account. there will be a consideration when they buy a negative trust account at a lower price. and to join the 1xbit campaign, within a few weeks may already return the capital used to buy the account. so even if their account will be permanently stigmatized, it won't have much of an impact on them.

I'm not sure this is true, but, most likely, the two accounts you mentioned are also trading accounts.
there's nothing more to pay attention to from the campaign participants in my opinion. if you see them making shit posts. we can report moderators. I think that's the best we can do.

What can we expect from the scamming campaign participants? They use everything which will make their posts count quota complete and does not care for anything, not even their own campaign

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.

[Issa56]

It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns.

People promoting 1xbit's also have enough negative trust, am sure no reputable manager will accept them in any of their campaign, but I think some of those people participating in 1xbit are having alts account which they are using in participating in other good campaigns and they are making good posts with the account, I just think they are spamming because the campaign have been tagged as scam campaign and the manager those not care, I think users participating in signature campaign deserves more than negative trust, all of them should be banned, because their post is of no use to the forum.

They will not care about this report because they have nothing to lose already there account has been red tag already for various unwanted activities watching those guys nor giving to much attention on what they do is useless. People like them will not care if they promote a good platform or even do the right thing because all they care is the money they can earn from shady platform they promote.

The two accounts are having more than 5 negative trust, they already know that their account is useless already, so even if you add more negative trust is of no use, they will continue spamming, the only thing that can happen that will affect them is if their account is ban, atleast they won't be able to receive the penny they are receiving for the signature campaign they are spamming for.

[_BlackStar]

People promoting 1xbit's also have enough negative trust, am sure no reputable manager will accept them in any of their campaign, but I think some of those people participating in 1xbit are having alts account which they are using in participating in other good campaigns and they are making good posts with the account, I just think they are spamming because the campaign have been tagged as scam campaign and the manager those not care, I think users participating in signature campaign deserves more than negative trust, all of them should be banned, because their post is of no use to the forum.

Nobody cares even when you can convince people that some of the accounts promoting the casino are alt. The reputation of the participants has become bad even most of them are accounts that have been tagged for various reasons, account sales or so on. Most of them I've tagged, but there's no way to stop them from using that signature unless the forum ban it.

Until now this campaign is not banned, whatever the reason. But I believe some participants of this campaign have been banned regardless of whether they are spammers or plagiarists.

[Ultegra134]

It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns.

People promoting 1xbit's also have enough negative trust, am sure no reputable manager will accept them in any of their campaign, but I think some of those people participating in 1xbit are having alts account which they are using in participating in other good campaigns and they are making good posts with the account, I just think they are spamming because the campaign have been tagged as scam campaign and the manager those not care, I think users participating in signature campaign deserves more than negative trust, all of them should be banned, because their post is of no use to the forum.

That's not the case, most if not all of their participants knew what they were getting themselves into. They don't care if they've received negative trust. As you've also mentioned yourself, chances are that most of them are alt accounts of other members, bought accounts or simple spammers who had zero chances or entering a decent campaign.

Thus, these members have nothing to lose. Those with more than two brain cells withdrew their application after being warned by DT higher members about 1xbit.

[Awaklara]

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.

they don't care because the account they use to participate in the scam campaign is not their main account. or their previous primary account which they later switched to another account due to negative tagging.

those who realized had to withdraw their POA when warned by other members. but mostly I think they already know the condition of the casino. they intentionally sign up to join a fraudulent campaign, no matter the reputation of their account.

for friends who are active on the gambling board, it might be better if they are willing to report shitposts on the board. Campaign participants made several posts on gambling boards.

[Issa56]

Thus, these members have nothing to lose. Those with more than two brain cells withdrew their application after being warned by DT higher members about 1xbit.

Am sure most of them think they don't have anything to lose, but they are losing their reputation, how will I wake up everyday and I keep on seeing negative trust in my account, how will they feel when they know that  they are putting peoples funds at risk just because of the little amount they are being paid for marketing for scam project, if anybody is been scammed then I will have to blame people marketing for them for that, so people might be new to the forum and they don't know about the trust system, they might just see someone wearing the signature code and they will decide to try it out, at the end they will get scammed.

[yahoo62278]

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.

they don't care because the account they use to participate in the scam campaign is not their main account. or their previous primary account which they later switched to another account due to negative tagging.

those who realized had to withdraw their POA when warned by other members. but mostly I think they already know the condition of the casino. they intentionally sign up to join a fraudulent campaign, no matter the reputation of their account.

for friends who are active on the gambling board, it might be better if they are willing to report shitposts on the board. Campaign participants made several posts on gambling boards.

Some of the users joining 1xbit had gotten negative trust in the past I believe. Those users probably thought their accounts were trash at the time, but then here comes 1xbit allowing neg rep users. Now those neg repped accounts have a purpose.

The fact that 1xbit allows neg accounts says alot about the site.

If any of you notice people editing their posts later, make sure you are reporting their posts. You might also take screenshots of before and after for more proof.

[aylabadia05]

That's not the case, most if not all of their participants knew what they were getting themselves into. They don't care if they've received negative trust. As you've also mentioned yourself, chances are that most of them are alt accounts of other members, bought accounts or simple spammers who had zero chances or entering a decent campaign.

Thus, these members have nothing to lose. Those with more than two brain cells withdrew their application after being warned by DT higher members about 1xbit.

I once reminded someone who applied for the 1xbit signature campaign. I don't think the owner of the account knows more about the reputation of the 1xbit campaign and the effect it will have on promoting the campaign. Due to their ignorance, I think it is necessary to be reminded to remove the signature code before the account owner is marked.



In contrast to accounts that ignore reputation in favor of getting paid weekly by promoting such campaigns. Most likely they have more than one BTT account.

[Ultegra134]

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.

they don't care because the account they use to participate in the scam campaign is not their main account. or their previous primary account which they later switched to another account due to negative tagging.

those who realized had to withdraw their POA when warned by other members. but mostly I think they already know the condition of the casino. they intentionally sign up to join a fraudulent campaign, no matter the reputation of their account.

for friends who are active on the gambling board, it might be better if they are willing to report shitposts on the board. Campaign participants made several posts on gambling boards.

Some of the users joining 1xbit had gotten negative trust in the past I believe. Those users probably thought their accounts were trash at the time, but then here comes 1xbit allowing neg rep users. Now those neg repped accounts have a purpose.

The fact that 1xbit allows neg accounts says alot about the site.

If any of you notice people editing their posts later, make sure you are reporting their posts. You might also take screenshots of before and after for more proof.

Is there any point in reporting their posts? By the time a moderator reviews it, it will have already been edited and filled in. Usually, it's within the 10-minute time frame, and it's not even shown as edited. Do moderators or administrators have access to see the initial post? Does Ninjastic.space, for instance, keep track of such posts? If the answer to at least one of the previous questions is yes, then I'll be on the lookout for any blank posts left to be edited in the future. Otherwise, it's no use.

The only positive thing regarding 1xbit is that they don't have an abundance of participants. Imagine them having up to 100 users. Most, if not all, of their users are suspicious, accused of multiaccounting or using traded accounts or involved in scams. It's disappointing.

[Awaklara]

Is there any point in reporting their posts? By the time a moderator reviews it, it will have already been edited and filled in. Usually, it's within the 10-minute time frame, and it's not even shown as edited. Do moderators or administrators have access to see the initial post? Does Ninjastic.space, for instance, keep track of such posts? If the answer to at least one of the previous questions is yes, then I'll be on the lookout for any blank posts left to be edited in the future. Otherwise, it's no use.

The only positive thing regarding 1xbit is that they don't have an abundance of participants. Imagine them having up to 100 users. Most, if not all, of their users are suspicious, accused of multiaccounting or using traded accounts or involved in scams. It's disappointing.

suppose editing is done in a short time. I guess it doesn't matter. what happens in the case of 1xbit signature campaign participants are edits made 1 day after the post-marking is made. it's just to chase post quotas to get rewards.

other users in the 1xbit campaign did the same. either by coincidence or indeed they are the same person.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=328196

proof from  Ninjastic.space
https://ninjastic.space/post/60664453
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624614
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624613
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624603
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624601



if you search for more accounts in that campaign, more accounts may have a habit of tagging posts like that.
I'm not saying that's solid evidence to accuse them of being multiple accounts. but, everything looks the same.

[Awaklara]

I once reminded someone who applied for the 1xbit signature campaign. I don't think the owner of the account knows more about the reputation of the 1xbit campaign and the effect it will have on promoting the campaign. Due to their ignorance, I think it is necessary to be reminded to remove the signature code before the account owner is marked.

now the account you warned about the reputation of 1xbit re-registers the campaign and wears the 1xbit signature.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.msg61111461#msg61111461

Now I doubt he doesn't know what the consequences will be if he signed up for the 1xbit campaign as you warned. will you remind him a second time?

it seems that many people have a dark eye for money. it doesn't matter if he joins the campaign or not. after he was warned he did not heed the warning. I think the account supports casino scams. worth tagging.

[UmerIdrees]

I once reminded someone who applied for the 1xbit signature campaign. I don't think the owner of the account knows more about the reputation of the 1xbit campaign and the effect it will have on promoting the campaign. Due to their ignorance, I think it is necessary to be reminded to remove the signature code before the account owner is marked.

now the account you warned about the reputation of 1xbit re-registers the campaign and wears the 1xbit signature.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.msg61111461#msg61111461

Now I doubt he doesn't know what the consequences will be if he signed up for the 1xbit campaign as you warned. will you remind him a second time?

it seems that many people have a dark eye for money. it doesn't matter if he joins the campaign or not. after he was warned he did not heed the warning. I think the account supports casino scams. worth tagging.

Some people know that they will be tagged but they still try to join this 1xbit campaign as they are not being accepted else where. They think that some bucks are better than no bucks at all. They only think short term as in the long term if he/she keeps posting, ranks up and may get in some better campaign.
But if they apply or join 1xbit they will just ruin their account forever and also promoting a scam is doing a scam itself. There is no cure for greediness  

[Ultegra134]

Excuse me but I'm on my phone again and could only take screenshots. 1xbit's spammers are on it again, making irrelevant one liner posts which all look alike. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all created by the same person, using alt accounts. After all, 1xbit accepts all kind of users. Not sure if they were edited out, but the majority of latest posts in the Economy section are made by these spammers.