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September 15, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
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I agree with examplens, technically they are burst posting. Simply leave a blank post then they write at the same time all the posts. Even you may find plagiarism from such users if you do a deep investigate. That's why managers should read the quality of the post during selection. Anyway, I don't think it's against forum rules but definitely, it should be against campaign rules. I have seen some campaign managers don't accept the edited post. So it's a better solution IMO. Just report to the manager.
Probably it's not against forum rules, but if this have to be cut off totally it should be the campaign Managers duty to deny whosoever they notice that is burst posting and edit and post, so if campaign manager deny the user twice payment you will see correction will take place without report.
Secondly if you notice such you exactly report the post, because such user is not making any meaningful contribution to the forum. Another thing is that, it's a 1xbit participants, other people participating in other campaigns will not edit post and post.
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September 16, 2022, 02:24:49 AM
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Just report to the manager.
because the campaign followed by both accounts is 1xBit. I guess there's no need to bother reporting to the bounty manager. there is a high chance that the campaign participants from the scam site are also doing the same behavior with the two accounts.

if you report to the bounty manager I guess you will only get a thank you from the manager. because if you look at the rules in the 1xBit campaign thread, spam, offtopic, and bounty posts are not counted. don't know if burst posting will be counted or not. the most important thing for such a project campaign is quantity, not quality.

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September 16, 2022, 03:33:36 AM
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because the campaign followed by both accounts is 1xBit. I guess there's no need to bother reporting to the bounty manager. there is a high chance that the campaign participants from the scam site are also doing the same behavior with the two accounts.

if you report to the bounty manager I guess you will only get a thank you from the manager. because if you look at the rules in the 1xBit campaign thread, spam, offtopic, and bounty posts are not counted. don't know if burst posting will be counted or not. the most important thing for such a project campaign is quantity, not quality.
When a campaign has 100 posts per week requirement to reach the highest quota of the payment then how would you expect a participant will do their regular posting. The forum became a cash cow for some spammer. Earlier I was calculating one user who may have 5 Hero and above accounts. Each accounts makes them $60 on average will make them $300 per week which is like $1,200 a month LOL

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September 16, 2022, 05:40:33 AM
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When a campaign has 100 posts per week requirement to reach the highest quota of the payment then how would you expect a participant will do their regular posting. The forum became a cash cow for some spammer.
I understand your point. Hence, the OP reveals how spammers fill their weekly quota to get paid. they mark posts they want to reply to quickly. and one day they will edit the post. this may be a problem when the problem is a campaign handled by a manager with a good reputation on the forum. but this 1xbit. what can we expect from a scam project manager?

something we might still be able to do is report posts from spammers. It looks like we've also seen some 1xbit campaign participants know a lot of their posts are being deleted. There are even cases of plagiarism.

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September 16, 2022, 05:55:17 PM
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When a campaign has 100 posts per week requirement to reach the highest quota of the payment then how would you expect a participant will do their regular posting. The forum became a cash cow for some spammer. Earlier I was calculating one user who may have 5 Hero and above accounts. Each accounts makes them $60 on average will make them $300 per week which is like $1,200 a month LOL
An example that fits the current situation very well. When posts are made only to pursue targets, the results will definitely be far from expectations. This means that the quality of posts is no longer an important thing to pay attention to. Never mind the quality that must be prioritized, the writing procedure is also neglected in order to earn $300 per week x for one month, ETC. I can't imagine what will happen and I don't mean to accuse anyone of anything.

In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

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September 16, 2022, 06:37:43 PM
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I can't imagine what will happen and I don't mean to accuse anyone of anything.
A good solution you might think of is to report spam posts to moderators and let them handle it. I don't like to say I'm a good poster while other users are bad posters, but other people's mistakes should be a reflection for me to maintain quality.

In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.
If you are aware about those drawbacks then it will be better for you to focus on local boards instead of forcing to post on English boards. I think you will only increase the amount of spam due to poor English, it is also not good if you keep it up.

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September 16, 2022, 07:50:51 PM
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In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I'm concerned, your posts are perfectly fine, and your level of proficiency in English is more than adequate. Since many of us are not native English speakers, we may not be able to write perfect posts, but it doesn't matter that much as long as they are relevant and not spammy. Just keep your sentences brief, use proper grammar, and don't post where you don't know what you're talking about, and you'll be fine!

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September 16, 2022, 09:09:09 PM
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In this case I realize that many posts that I have made are still far from standard, including the use of my language which is difficult for readers to understand.
Therefore, I continue to enter the board and child boards to read every post on this forum, including about this in order to maintain safety so as not to become a fugitive.

I don't know if you are being figurative in this reply. But this particular post of yours is not far behind standard. The wordings are nicely fixed also and would not stress anyone to understand. If you could find a means to make this reply, it therefore means you can be consistent and improve also. For a non native English user to make such a reply is cool already.

But in order to make a clearer denotation, it is advisable to only involve in conversations you are conversant with, otherwise you read only and move on. Also remember that the most effective way to communicate effectively is by approaching everything from the natural aspect of it. Don't pose yourself more than your ability and don't act as if you are under compulsion to impress anyone. This is a bitcoin discussion forum and not a high school final year research and hypothesis forum.

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Just report to the manager.
because the campaign followed by both accounts is 1xBit. I guess there's no need to bother reporting to the bounty manager. there is a high chance that the campaign participants from the scam site are also doing the same behavior with the two accounts.

if you report to the bounty manager I guess you will only get a thank you from the manager. because if you look at the rules in the 1xBit campaign thread, spam, offtopic, and bounty posts are not counted. don't know if burst posting will be counted or not. the most important thing for such a project campaign is quantity, not quality.

I don't blame tjose guys for doing such only because they finds the campaign itself the most suitably ground for them to perform such, who dare tries that with other campaign managers, all because the campaign has been on several occasions reported as scam gives them more upper hands to executing post bursting and others irrelevant acts with the campaign, if a house is shaking, check its background, but it also sounds unprofessional if the campaign manager is unaware of their doings.

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I don't know if it's from my side but I like to report that the picture clarity shared by OP is blunt. I guess that's from the device used in taking the pictures or from the angle they were taken. Anyway, that's besides the issue. I observed that abuse as reported and that's very horrible to say the least. The best way to tackle such edit abuse would've been to report the user to the manager of the campaign they're in. That's if they're in a signature campaign at the time of the crime. It's not even as if they won't be in a campaign to do such. Those who aren't won't feel the rush to meet up weekly quota. Managers of BTC paying signature campaigns will care to take the matter up and scrutinize the user. I know it's a different ball game for bounty campaigns where anything goes and most bounty mangers don't even care to check their hunters. In the case of bounties, the user should be reported to mods.

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When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.
So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.

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Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.

Maybe it was the number of participants, which was 100+, and this campaign with which you are making a comparison does not seem to me to be even close to aggressive enough to cause the same reaction. It is possible that today's scam-spammers are hiding where the least attention of spam-hunters is, so the whole thing has become quite irrelevant.

If theymos would apply the same criteria to 1xbit, then we would just need good reports to get rid of them.

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I don't know if it's from my side but I like to report that the picture clarity shared by OP is blunt. I guess that's from the device used in taking the pictures or from the angle they were taken. Anyway, that's besides the issue. I observed that abuse as reported and that's very horrible to say the least. The best way to tackle such edit abuse would've been to report the user to the manager of the campaign they're in. That's if they're in a signature campaign at the time of the crime. It's not even as if they won't be in a campaign to do such. Those who aren't won't feel the rush to meet up weekly quota. Managers of BTC paying signature campaigns will care to take the matter up and scrutinize the user. I know it's a different ball game for bounty campaigns where anything goes and most bounty mangers don't even care to check their hunters. In the case of bounties, the user should be reported to mods.
They are screenshots from my phone. They can even be zoomed in if you click on each photo individually. I didn't have the time frame to turn on my computer in order to get decent print screens from there. Chances are that some of his posts would have already been edited out by then.
When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.
So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.
I don't know about Yobit's campaign; either I wasn't active back then or I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, 1xbit is consisted of 38 participants, certainly not an insignificant number. Roobet, for instance, has 60 members, which is one of the largest and most established campaigns. Most of 1xbit's participants feature terrible post quality, with only a few of them being average enough. The forum isn't filled with their spam posts, but there's a decent amount stemming from them.

 
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October 05, 2022, 10:56:45 AM
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So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.
I don't know about Yobit's campaign; either I wasn't active back then or I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, 1xbit is consisted of 38 participants, certainly not an insignificant number. Roobet, for instance, has 60 members, which is one of the largest and most established campaigns. Most of 1xbit's participants feature terrible post quality, with only a few of them being average enough. The forum isn't filled with their spam posts, but there's a decent amount stemming from them.

there is no accurate record of how many members participated in the Yobit campaign, because they managed that part, and they never announced it.
I know yahoo62278 was in charge of banning spammers from the campaign, and according to this thread, as far as I counted, 535 accounts were banned from that campaign. It doesn't matter if it's because of spam or a bad reputation.
Plus warned members and those who were within the limits of what is allowed on the forum. I would say that it was the biggest spam attack on the forum.

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After seeing the post I was curious to see their profile, immediately I clicked on the first link I saw the user wearing 1xbit signature, I clicked on second link and I noticed the user was wearing the same signature campaign. Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site, the two accounts might be operated by one person, but even if they are tag as shit posters, it those not have any effect because they are already having enough negative trust, I just think it's better we protect our name, some of us might think it's just a nickname and they don't care, but the name you use here is what all of us knows you as, so I believe that's your name. That's why I think we shouldn't spoil out reputation just because of money.

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Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site
There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.

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Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site
There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.
It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns. On the one hand, I don't blame them; they wouldn't manage to participate in any other event. On the other hand, they're taking the easy way out instead of spending more time around the forum getting to know each other better and improving their post quality, which could potentially lead to having a steady source of income through the forum for years to come. 1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

 
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Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site
There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.
It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns. On the one hand, I don't blame them; they wouldn't manage to participate in any other event. On the other hand, they're taking the easy way out instead of spending more time around the forum getting to know each other better and improving their post quality, which could potentially lead to having a steady source of income through the forum for years to come. 1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

They will not care about this report because they have nothing to lose already there account has been red tag already for various unwanted activities watching those guys nor giving to much attention on what they do is useless. People like them will not care if they promote a good platform or even do the right thing because all they care is the money they can earn from shady platform they promote.

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October 07, 2022, 02:08:24 AM
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1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

maybe the account taking part in the 1xbit campaign comes from a trading account. there will be a consideration when they buy a negative trust account at a lower price. and to join the 1xbit campaign, within a few weeks may already return the capital used to buy the account. so even if their account will be permanently stigmatized, it won't have much of an impact on them.

I'm not sure this is true, but, most likely, the two accounts you mentioned are also trading accounts.
there's nothing more to pay attention to from the campaign participants in my opinion. if you see them making shit posts. we can report moderators. I think that's the best we can do.

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October 07, 2022, 03:05:14 PM
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1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

maybe the account taking part in the 1xbit campaign comes from a trading account. there will be a consideration when they buy a negative trust account at a lower price. and to join the 1xbit campaign, within a few weeks may already return the capital used to buy the account. so even if their account will be permanently stigmatized, it won't have much of an impact on them.

I'm not sure this is true, but, most likely, the two accounts you mentioned are also trading accounts.
there's nothing more to pay attention to from the campaign participants in my opinion. if you see them making shit posts. we can report moderators. I think that's the best we can do.

What can we expect from the scamming campaign participants? They use everything which will make their posts count quota complete and does not care for anything, not even their own campaign

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.

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