Russian-Ukrainian war of 2022- ... for the salvation of the World

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i don't understand why people in 2023 feel that they need to go into a war, its very bad respect to the soliders that die. no young human should need to die because two old men cant get along. no one.

  Пoтoмy чтo этo нe люди, этo pyccкиe.

I don't understand what you said but it seems you speak Russia so I think you know more about this then me, i respect that, sorry if i said somehting wrong.

He didn't contradict you and you did not say anything wrong.
A sentence in Russian doesn't mean a person speaks Russian. Put it in a translator and you'll see what that sentence means.

Hello, yes I did use google translate, but sometimes it can be wrong anyway.
It said "Because they are Russians" and I did not exaclty understand how to take it, maybe it was "Because they are russians and russians are bad people" or "Because they are russians and russians don't let anyone push them down".. My english is also not hundred procent perfect. i hope you understand   I don't mean to offence anyone. Thanks

Alik said that Russians are not humans. This is a typical propaganda trick to dehumanize one's ideological enemy, which is often used by radical nationalists in their practice. Simply put, the author of the topic is a Nazi and does not hide it.

[swogerino]

i don't understand why people in 2023 feel that they need to go into a war, its very bad respect to the soliders that die. no young human should need to die because two old men cant get along. no one.

  Пoтoмy чтo этo нe люди, этo pyccкиe.

I don't understand what you said but it seems you speak Russia so I think you know more about this then me, i respect that, sorry if i said somehting wrong.

He didn't contradict you and you did not say anything wrong.
A sentence in Russian doesn't mean a person speaks Russian. Put it in a translator and you'll see what that sentence means.

Hello, yes I did use google translate, but sometimes it can be wrong anyway.
It said "Because they are Russians" and I did not exaclty understand how to take it, maybe it was "Because they are russians and russians are bad people" or "Because they are russians and russians don't let anyone push them down".. My english is also not hundred procent perfect. i hope you understand   I don't mean to offence anyone. Thanks

Alik said that Russians are not humans. This is a typical propaganda trick to dehumanize one's ideological enemy, which is often used by radical nationalists in their practice. Simply put, the author of the topic is a Nazi and does not hide it.

I strongly agree that Russians are not humans,they are just some barbaric tribes who kill innocent children,the latest today just a 10 year old girl in the attack they deliberately make against civilian targets consistently in Ukraine which by the way consist a war crime but that is not news anymore,the world is not acting,luckily Ukrainian army is doing so every day claiming more and more liberated territories.

What I don't understand is why Ukraine does not strike civilian targets in Russia so they can feel the same that Ukrainian is feeling and maybe they would come to their senses.

[Alik Bahshi]

i don't understand why people in 2023 feel that they need to go into a war, its very bad respect to the soliders that die. no young human should need to die because two old men cant get along. no one.

  Пoтoмy чтo этo нe люди, этo pyccкиe.

I don't understand what you said but it seems you speak Russia so I think you know more about this then me, i respect that, sorry if i said somehting wrong.

He didn't contradict you and you did not say anything wrong.
A sentence in Russian doesn't mean a person speaks Russian. Put it in a translator and you'll see what that sentence means.

 To change your mind, you need to have brains in your head, but the Russians have a problem with this.

Hello, yes I did use google translate, but sometimes it can be wrong anyway.
It said "Because they are Russians" and I did not exaclty understand how to take it, maybe it was "Because they are russians and russians are bad people" or "Because they are russians and russians don't let anyone push them down".. My english is also not hundred procent perfect. i hope you understand   I don't mean to offence anyone. Thanks

Alik said that Russians are not humans. This is a typical propaganda trick to dehumanize one's ideological enemy, which is often used by radical nationalists in their practice. Simply put, the author of the topic is a Nazi and does not hide it.

I strongly agree that Russians are not humans,they are just some barbaric tribes who kill innocent children,the latest today just a 10 year old girl in the attack they deliberately make against civilian targets consistently in Ukraine which by the way consist a war crime but that is not news anymore,the world is not acting,luckily Ukrainian army is doing so every day claiming more and more liberated territories.

What I don't understand is why Ukraine does not strike civilian targets in Russia so they can feel the same that Ukrainian is feeling and maybe they would come to their senses.

To change your mind, you need to have brains in your head, but the Russians have a problem with this.

[BADecker]

Russians and Ukrainians have lived together for thousands of years. At times there was no difference between them. Nobody could tell if this was a Russian or if that was an Ukrainian.

This whole war is a political action. It might have simply been a civil war, but with the US and Nato involved, it becomes a political war.

[Alik Bahshi]

Russians and Ukrainians have lived together for thousands of years. At times there was no difference between them. Nobody could tell if this was a Russian or if that was an Ukrainian.

This whole war is a political action. It might have simply been a civil war, but with the US and Nato involved, it becomes a political war.

What does it mean sometimes there was no difference between Ukrainians and Russians? Maybe you can clarify, I don't know. Thank you.

[Sir Lagsalot]

Russia is winning.

[BADecker]

Russians and Ukrainians have lived together for thousands of years. At times there was no difference between them. Nobody could tell if this was a Russian or if that was an Ukrainian.

This whole war is a political action. It might have simply been a civil war, but with the US and Nato involved, it becomes a political war.

What does it mean sometimes there was no difference between Ukrainians and Russians? Maybe you can clarify, I don't know. Thank you.

Take the words that I wrote. Find a good translator, and translate them to your favorite language. Then look them up in several dictionaries. If you can't figure out the meaning after doing all that stuff, perhaps it's time for you to go back to school. You probably don't know the difference between the name "Zelensky" and the name "Putin."

[Alik Bahshi]

Russians and Ukrainians have lived together for thousands of years. At times there was no difference between them. Nobody could tell if this was a Russian or if that was an Ukrainian.

This whole war is a political action. It might have simply been a civil war, but with the US and Nato involved, it becomes a political war.

What does it mean sometimes there was no difference between Ukrainians and Russians? Maybe you can clarify, I don't know. Thank you.

Take the words that I wrote. Find a good translator, and translate them to your favorite language. Then look them up in several dictionaries. If you can't figure out the meaning after doing all that stuff, perhaps it's time for you to go back to school. You probably don't know the difference between the name "Zelensky" and the name "Putin."

You rudely evade the answer. And here Zelensky with Putin? They wrote nonsense and now you yourself can not find an answer to it.

[BADecker]

Russians and Ukrainians have lived together for thousands of years. At times there was no difference between them. Nobody could tell if this was a Russian or if that was an Ukrainian.

This whole war is a political action. It might have simply been a civil war, but with the US and Nato involved, it becomes a political war.

What does it mean sometimes there was no difference between Ukrainians and Russians? Maybe you can clarify, I don't know. Thank you.

Take the words that I wrote. Find a good translator, and translate them to your favorite language. Then look them up in several dictionaries. If you can't figure out the meaning after doing all that stuff, perhaps it's time for you to go back to school. You probably don't know the difference between the name "Zelensky" and the name "Putin."

You rudely evade the answer. And here Zelensky with Putin? They wrote nonsense and now you yourself can not find an answer to it.

As usual, you asked a question, the answer of which was in my post you quoted. Then when I explained that all you had to do was get a clear picture from my post by using a dictionary with a translation, you say I evaded the answer. The answer is that no matter what the answer is, you are simply not going to understand it.

The new point is the same as the old one. You don't know English or how to translate it into your home language. Or you don't really want to know the answer. Or you simply blab... gives you more posts and popularity.

[Alik Bahshi]

Russians and Ukrainians have lived together for thousands of years. At times there was no difference between them. Nobody could tell if this was a Russian or if that was an Ukrainian.

This whole war is a political action. It might have simply been a civil war, but with the US and Nato involved, it becomes a political war.

What does it mean sometimes there was no difference between Ukrainians and Russians? Maybe you can clarify, I don't know. Thank you.

Take the words that I wrote. Find a good translator, and translate them to your favorite language. Then look them up in several dictionaries. If you can't figure out the meaning after doing all that stuff, perhaps it's time for you to go back to school. You probably don't know the difference between the name "Zelensky" and the name "Putin."

You rudely evade the answer. And here Zelensky with Putin? They wrote nonsense and now you yourself can not find an answer to it.

As usual, you asked a question, the answer of which was in my post you quoted. Then when I explained that all you had to do was get a clear picture from my post by using a dictionary with a translation, you say I evaded the answer. The answer is that no matter what the answer is, you are simply not going to understand it.

The new point is the same as the old one. You don't know English or how to translate it into your home language. Or you don't really want to know the answer. Or you simply blab... gives you more posts and popularity.

Here is an example when a person says nothing, just to get away from answering the stupidity that he himself wrote.

[BADecker]

This thread should be entitled... "The US and Nato sacrificing Ukraine for the salvation of the world."


The Illusory Truth Effect And The "Unprovoked" Invasion Of Ukraine


https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-illusory-truth-effect-and-the
“Right now if you’re a respectable writer and you want to write in the main journals, you talk about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, you have to call it ‘the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Chomsky said. “It’s a very interesting phrase; it was never used before. You look back, you look at Iraq, which was totally unprovoked, nobody ever called it ‘the unprovoked invasion of Iraq.’ In fact I don’t know if the term was ever used — if it was it was very marginal. Now you look it up on Google, and hundreds of thousands of hits. Every article that comes out has to talk about the unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.”

“Why? Because they know perfectly well it was provoked,” Chomsky said. “That doesn’t justify it, but it was massively provoked.”

Indeed, you can disagree with Russia’s invasion or believe that Putin overreacted to the situation, but what you can’t do is legitimately claim that the invasion was unprovoked. It’s just a well-documented fact that the US and its allies provoked this war in a whole host of ways, from NATO expansion to backing regime change in Kyiv to playing along with aggressions against Donbass separatists to pouring weapons into Ukraine. There’s also an abundance of evidence that the US and its allies sabotaged a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine in the early weeks of the war in order to keep this conflict going as long as possible to hurt Russian interests.
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[Alik Bahshi]

Ukraine drone strikes on Moscow. A factory producing optics for the war exploded there.

[Alik Bahshi]

The Ukrainian army has broken through the defenses and is moving forward.

[af_newbie]

Moscow has again been attacked by drones. I think that if the Russians strike at Ukraine wherever they want, then Ukraine has every right to strike at the territory of Russia.

Ukrainians should set all Russian oil fields on fire and blow up all major gas pipelines.

[BADecker]

Russia isn't being tolerant of Ukraine forever. In addition, note that Russia isn't afraid of retaliation right next to other Nato countries. Do something, Nato, if you think you can.


Russian Drones Destroy Ukrainian Oil Depot On Romanian Border Amid Retaliation Campaign


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-drones-destroy-ukrainian-oil-depot-romanian-border-amid-retaliation-campaign
On Sunday Russia's defense ministry announced its forces launched a successful UAV attack on an oil depot that's near the Romanian border. It was reportedly destroyed, but was seen as vital to supplying Ukrainian forces deployed in the Odessa region.

"The Russian Aerospace Force made a group strike by unmanned aerial vehicles this night against fuel storages used for supplies to military vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the port of Reni, Odessa Region. The strike objective was achieved. All the designated targets were engaged," the ministry said.

The statement continued: "Tactical and army aviation, rocket troops and artillery of battlegroups of the Russian Federation Armed Forces engaged manpower and materiel of the adversary in 119 areas."

The main oil depot that was hit is located on the bank of the Danube River which lies opposite NATO-member Romania, raising tensions given Romania has been key to setting up an alternative grain export route for Kiev.

Additionally, more military and infrastructure facilities were hit particularly connected to Ukrainian ports.
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[Alik Bahshi]

The Russian defense is broken through by the Ukrainian army. The Russians retreat in panic, losing their equipment.

[BADecker]

The Russian defense is broken through by the Ukrainian army. The Russians retreat in panic, losing their equipment.

That's a battle. The point is that the Russian military is being strengthened, even if they lose one soldier for every one the that Ukraine loses. But each soldier that Ukraine loses is a titanic loss for them, except if their leader, Zelensky, is in favor of depopulating the world.

[Alik Bahshi]

The Russian defense is broken through by the Ukrainian army. The Russians retreat in panic, losing their equipment.

That's a battle. The point is that the Russian military is being strengthened, even if they lose one soldier for every one the that Ukraine loses. But each soldier that Ukraine loses is a titanic loss for them, except if their leader, Zelensky, is in favor of depopulating the world.

Greatly noted! Yes, for Ukrainians, human life is the main value, unlike Russian murderers who came to a foreign country to kill.

[Pingrapole]

Not only the United States but all countries in the Western world are supporting this war NATO is stockpiling weapons one after the other, always delivering new versions of missile tank defense systems etc. to Ukraine, then there is no question of stopping the war.Russia is actually showing their position of strength and power through war. They may not be using heavy weapons. If they had used heavy weapons, atomic bombs would have killed Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan See the world with some consequences that we don't want to happen.Actually the ones they are using are heavy weapons actually I mean nuclear bombs As a result of this war, Fuel crisis, food crisis and economic crisis are going to the three final stages, which will have dire consequences for the people of the world In fact, what is now calling the war is wrong to call it a war of the Russian Union, it is making the entire world suffer the consequences of the war and is fighting with the people of the entire world through food shortages to meet economic needs Due to the reduction of foreign resources of different countries, different states are not able to run smoothly as they should, thus creating different conditions. In fact, the effect of this war is more effective against these states.In fact, no matter how much we try to give Ukraine military equipment in various ways, through intelligence assistance, through beautiful means through weapons, through money, it will never grow with Russia because Russia is A country where many countries have tried many times to get along with them shows that it is very difficult to get along with them because their geography is such that no country can accept them Even the hard fought French tried to attack and sometimes lost their way due to lack of food and lost the battle.Russia has lost the war many times as we can see in history, but we should believe that as soon as they lose the war they will bring the whole world to the ground and that is what happened in Afghanistan.It is not just a military war it is a war of nerves because there is more rhetoric going on than war.
*The West wants to control Russia
*Russia's foreign policy is seen as a formidable one by the West
*This is a new reason for good relations between Russia and China
*This is one reason why the West, which has held the Muslim world in its grip for so long, is now pulling out
*The Americans have to fold their hands from the middle pot
*The West cannot accept that Russia's hegemony is growing

*Russia's new defense system, missile attack system, and the attempt to bring the country into the hands of the space expedition are among the reasons.
*America wants to increase its hegemony in the South China Sea, but China is doing well and Russia is trying to block China.

There are many other minor reasons Funding will continue as long as there is war. A conflict between Russia and the US is that the US is using dollar diplomacy to capture countries through financial aid Now Russia is trying to force those countries out of them, which is why the West is angry, and they want to make their neighbors play a role in Russia Can be stopped.One last thing I want to say the outcome of the war is going to be more dire in the future I will never blame one side because there are like two countries in the war Russia itself is a known war zone And the world has reserves in the west, so I don't think the war will stop, but we have to accept the consequences going forward if possible the UN can mediate and maybe do something.We know that Russians lost the war, and they will stop because Russia lost the war, they are not the nation they like to fight, every history says so, so the outcome of the war is terrible and miserable.I don't think it can fight with Russia.

[BADecker]

Ukraine, possibly the most corrupt country of all, still has some honesty in a few of its leaders.


NY Times Wakes Up to Corruption in Ukraine as Officials Admit Military Contract Money ‘Vanished’


https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/09/04/ny-times-wakes-up-to-corruption-in-ukraine-as-officials-admit-military-contract-money-vanished24880952/
In a potential signal of shifting attitudes on how the war in Ukraine is covered in the legacy media, the New York Times is starting to slowly acknowledge the endemic corruption that has been a defining feature of the former Soviet state as officials have admitted that money for military contracts has "vanished".

Following the dismissal of Ukrainian Defence Minister Oleksii Reznikov amid a slew of corruption scandals surrounding the war effort against Russia, the New York Times acknowledged that the "enduring challenge of corruption in Ukraine" has "emerged as a rare area of criticism of President Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership."

Although Reznikov has yet to be tied with any of the corruption scandals personally, the Times went on to admit that the resignation has "elevated the issue to the highest level of Ukrainian politics". Unnamed Ukrainian officials even told the paper that some funds intended for military contracts "failed to produce weaponry or ammunition and that some money has vanished," while claiming that the issue was merely confined to the early days of the war.

The neo-liberal outlet has previously been keen to highlight claims from the Biden administration on how the Zelensky government has been "committed to fighting corruption," citing as evidence statements from officials such as veteran Washington insider and Acting Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, who played a pivotal role in the Euromaidan revolution in Ukraine that saw the overthrow of democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014.

Despite nine senior government officials being sacked over allegations of corruption, including purchasing military food supplies at vastly inflated prices and taking luxury vacations, the paper went on to write in January that "corruption has otherwise not been a significant factor in the war, despite Russian propaganda claims to the contrary that are aimed at undermining his [Zelensky's] government."
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