Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue

[dothebeats]

Yeah, i just recently read a mews regarding the banning of gambling streams in twitch. This is bad news to all streamers who use twitch as their platform although not that huge to affect gambling community.
But since it still next month, creating another account to other alternative platform and start building its influence as streamers.

The way this panned out is honestly sad. Sliker just showed how problematic gambling can be, and the fact that he messaged lots of his followers and some streamers for money in order to continue his gambling content is just the last straw that Twitch needs to see before they call the decision. I mean, if this didn't happen, we still probably would see gambling streamers but oh well, Twitch is involved and they have to do what they need to do.

[OgNasty]

I didn’t realize that twitch gambling was such a problem that it needed them to take action. My understanding was that a lot of people got caught in a scam and that’s why this is happening, but I probably haven’t looked into this enough. It does mean that gambling sites will be looking for new ways to advertise as social media sites seem to be cracking down.

[xSkylarx]

Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

For me, gambling contents should really not be permitted to stream on any platform. It encourages all ages of people to gamble and try their luck when they see their idols winning some huge amount. There are also some streamers who just takes advantage by promoting their affiliate link so they can earn some commission.

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

They did not totally ban gambling streams. Only some games like slots, roulette, and dice games are prohibited. Poker, sports betting, and fantasy sports are still allowed to stream on their platform.

[blue_hurricanger]

Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

For me, gambling contents should really not be permitted to stream on any platform. It encourages all ages of people to gamble and try their luck when they see their idols winning some huge amount. There are also some streamers who just takes advantage by promoting their affiliate link so they can earn some commission.

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

They did not totally ban gambling streams. Only some games like slots, roulette, and dice games are prohibited. Poker, sports betting, and fantasy sports are still allowed to stream on their platform.

Interesting. So to Twitch, there is a difference between gambling games like slots, roulette, and dice compare to gambling activities like poker and sports betting? Heck, lootbox is considered as gambling in some countries but I bet there are plenty of streamers who did the lootbox stream. esport like CSGO, Dota2 betting on live there right now, on the casting channel and no one bat an eye.

Very inconsistent treatment from Twitch. Like they did that on a whim and tho I said I don't like gambling advertising near kids, this is very unfair treatment of gambling games.

[KTChampions]

I didn’t realize that twitch gambling was such a problem that it needed them to take action. My understanding was that a lot of people got caught in a scam and that’s why this is happening, but I probably haven’t looked into this enough. It does mean that gambling sites will be looking for new ways to advertise as social media sites seem to be cracking down.

This is good news for BTT - the fewer external platforms for advertising crypto gambling, the more signature campaigns will be here 
But in general, this approach remains incomprehensible to me. What will Twitch do when some other streamer runs into debt and spends all the money on CS skins? Ban CS?

[pawanjain]

This should have happened a while ago. Many influencers had already started streaming gambling content on Twitch long time ago.
It was a matter of time before gambling streams got banned on this platform and now that it has happened many people will be saved from these influencers.
So far only a few games in a few gambling platforms are banned but as time goes we might see more games and more sites being added to the list.

[slaman29]

Twitch has not turned into a cesspool, I think it kinda always was lol. Influencers have always been a big problem for social media, kids are wasting their entire time with them and even adults, especially in crypto, paying way too much attention to them, paying them money and fooling others into thinking they can also become rich by "influencing".

It's not about gambling per se, it's about this mentality of distracting people and making poor choices for role models.

[Hispo]

Twitch has not turned into a cesspool, I think it kinda always was lol. Influencers have always been a big problem for social media, kids are wasting their entire time with them and even adults, especially in crypto, paying way too much attention to them, paying them money and fooling others into thinking they can also become rich by "influencing".

It's not about gambling per se, it's about this mentality of distracting people and making poor choices for role models.

In that case, you must think that Twitter and Instagram are hell on earth because those social media are all about influencing. I have seen some cases in Instagram about people who basically fake being rich or photoshop themselves beyond recognition for the sake of getting followers and clout; Twitter is also the home of all kind of sick people.  You probably you have also listened to some cases yourself.

At least, on Twitch one can get entertainment and have fun watching some actually authentic and humble streamers and not only throwing money at girls streaming themselves in a jacuzzi.

[Jawhead999]

Interesting. So to Twitch, there is a difference between gambling games like slots, roulette, and dice compare to gambling activities like poker and sports betting? Heck, lootbox is considered as gambling in some countries but I bet there are plenty of streamers who did the lootbox stream. esport like CSGO, Dota2 betting on live there right now, on the casting channel and no one bat an eye.

Very inconsistent treatment from Twitch. Like they did that on a whim and tho I said I don't like gambling advertising near kids, this is very unfair treatment of gambling games.

Maybe Twitch think slots, roulette and dice are luck based games where any users can play without thinking any strategy (of course there's no strategy on luck based games). While poker and sports betting are skill based games where you can actually earn money if you're very good analyst.

However I tend to agree lootbox stream or gacha should be considered as lucky based games since it works similar like slots, roulette and dice. Actually there's many cases where a kids borrow their parents credit card only for lootbox stream or gacha.

[Pierre 2]

Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

For me, gambling contents should really not be permitted to stream on any platform. It encourages all ages of people to gamble and try their luck when they see their idols winning some huge amount. There are also some streamers who just takes advantage by promoting their affiliate link so they can earn some commission.

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

They did not totally ban gambling streams. Only some games like slots, roulette, and dice games are prohibited. Poker, sports betting, and fantasy sports are still allowed to stream on their platform.

Interesting. So to Twitch, there is a difference between gambling games like slots, roulette, and dice compare to gambling activities like poker and sports betting? Heck, lootbox is considered as gambling in some countries but I bet there are plenty of streamers who did the lootbox stream. esport like CSGO, Dota2 betting on live there right now, on the casting channel and no one bat an eye.

Very inconsistent treatment from Twitch. Like they did that on a whim and tho I said I don't like gambling advertising near kids, this is very unfair treatment of gambling games.

It is really hard to be sure which one is more gambling and which one isn't with that. I also think its %100 inconsistent. I personally see lootbox dropping as gambling honestly. It can convince to kids open random boxes. Its definitely gambling for expensive item/drop. Slots, roulette, and dice are easy and obvious ones, these are part of physical casinos even. But with poker and sports betting? I mean if these are permitted, that just doesn't make any sense to me. Poker has a strategy but if its played for money its another gambling activity. Sports betting? I won't even argue.

[noormcs5]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra.

Well, it is his right to ask money from his viewers. Many people do this, after all, they are popular and they need to make money.
The bigger the influencers, the more money they can make.

Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

It is his money and he can spend it anywhere. I know he must be losing a lot in gambling but wont tell publically.

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.

That's why we need decentralized platforms so that the central body wont ban the gambling and crypto streams.

[GigaBit]

A sudden announcement like this from Twitch doesn't well indication for the gambling company. It is believed that Twitch may have banned this gambling sites due to some kind of restrictions by the government or others. Nowadays gambling has become a big industry. But I hope that such restrictions may be reduce in the near future. Besides, all these companies have to take alternative route for gambling promotion.

[Boristhecat]

This should have happened a while ago. Many influencers had already started streaming gambling content on Twitch long time ago.
It was a matter of time before gambling streams got banned on this platform and now that it has happened many people will be saved from these influencers.
So far only a few games in a few gambling platforms are banned but as time goes we might see more games and more sites being added to the list.

I don't understand what's the problem with not watching what you don't like? These modern trends to ban everything are just awful. I remember the times when twitch streaming was fun and you could hear funny jokes on any topic. Now this is all banned and if the streamer did not have time to say "I condemn" in time, he can be banned even for a joke in the chat that has nothing to do with him. We are getting closer to a dystopia, and as I see it, you rejoice in this? Terrible.

[Fatunad]

This should have happened a while ago. Many influencers had already started streaming gambling content on Twitch long time ago.
It was a matter of time before gambling streams got banned on this platform and now that it has happened many people will be saved from these influencers.
So far only a few games in a few gambling platforms are banned but as time goes we might see more games and more sites being added to the list.

I don't understand what's the problem with not watching what you don't like? These modern trends to ban everything are just awful. I remember the times when twitch streaming was fun and you could hear funny jokes on any topic. Now this is all banned and if the streamer did not have time to say "I condemn" in time, he can be banned even for a joke in the chat that has nothing to do with him. We are getting closer to a dystopia, and as I see it, you rejoice in this? Terrible.

We do have own perspective on things on which some do appreciate on someone's action as long it does oppose those things which arent that ethical on the first place.Anything which is really not really good looking
or something that could be pertain as a bad habit or actions will really be banned by those platforms because they do know that there would be supporters on the actions that they had made and tells that
it was just a right decision for them to make.

[Hispo]

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I don't understand what's the problem with not watching what you don't like? These modern trends to ban everything are just awful. I remember the times when twitch streaming was fun and you could hear funny jokes on any topic. Now this is all banned and if the streamer did not have time to say "I condemn" in time, he can be banned even for a joke in the chat that has nothing to do with him. We are getting closer to a dystopia, and as I see it, you rejoice in this? Terrible.

Firstly, I would like to say that I mostly agree with you when you talk about how Terms of services of social media have become so strict that people can easily get banned by using some words or expressing their honest opinion. I recall, back in the day when Twitch and Youtube did not mind if users stuck to political correctness, it was a good to be part of that era, that being said, gambling is something different from those things, we are talking about a platform that is frequented by a lot of children and teens which could start gambling because their favorite influencer does it and they believe it to be "cool", and while they are kids and teens who understand they should not gamble, there are others who could start a gambling career too early in their lifes.

If Twitch wants to keep those gambling streams then it would be fine, but they should also restrict that content to people over 18 or 16 years old, somehow.

[BobK71]

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I don't understand what's the problem with not watching what you don't like? These modern trends to ban everything are just awful. I remember the times when twitch streaming was fun and you could hear funny jokes on any topic. Now this is all banned and if the streamer did not have time to say "I condemn" in time, he can be banned even for a joke in the chat that has nothing to do with him. We are getting closer to a dystopia, and as I see it, you rejoice in this? Terrible.

Firstly, I would like to say that I mostly agree with you when you talk about how Terms of services of social media have become so strict that people can easily get banned by using some words or expressing their honest opinion. I recall, back in the day when Twitch and Youtube did not mind if users stuck to political correctness, it was a good to be part of that era, that being said, gambling is something different from those things, we are talking about a platform that is frequented by a lot of children and teens which could start gambling because their favorite influencer does it and they believe it to be "cool", and while they are kids and teens who understand they should not gamble, there are others who could start a gambling career too early in their lifes.

If Twitch wants to keep those gambling streams then it would be fine, but they should also restrict that content to people over 18 or 16 years old, somehow.

Twitch came so late to take such initiative which became a big obstacle in the gaming promotion. However, they have certainly tried to raise some complaints behind their decision. Where they mentioned. The links and referral codes of the gambling sites are variously becoming harmful to their communities. Which are broken their rules. Here they have also mentioned some gambling sites. But I agree with you that minors should be restricted.

[STT]

They allow Poker they got some sense, it doesnt really add up overall to suddenly change policy over one guy.   Theres always one guy for every example of why, we can find the news story for one guy who played games too much, over exhausted and literally died from it.   Clearly dont do that but its hardly the reasoning to ban all games and yes seriously people have tried that level of reasoning and we've had many court cases over the idea of people will copy everything they see in a game so we must ban all games.   Gambling is with risk but Twitch cant easily quantify that risk apparently, their response is probably formulated by lawyers more then any other kind of reasoning.
  It does underline once again free speech and freedom in general is a rare commodity long term.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

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I don't understand what's the problem with not watching what you don't like? These modern trends to ban everything are just awful. I remember the times when twitch streaming was fun and you could hear funny jokes on any topic. Now this is all banned and if the streamer did not have time to say "I condemn" in time, he can be banned even for a joke in the chat that has nothing to do with him. We are getting closer to a dystopia, and as I see it, you rejoice in this? Terrible.

Firstly, I would like to say that I mostly agree with you when you talk about how Terms of services of social media have become so strict that people can easily get banned by using some words or expressing their honest opinion. I recall, back in the day when Twitch and Youtube did not mind if users stuck to political correctness, it was a good to be part of that era, that being said, gambling is something different from those things, we are talking about a platform that is frequented by a lot of children and teens which could start gambling because their favorite influencer does it and they believe it to be "cool", and while they are kids and teens who understand they should not gamble, there are others who could start a gambling career too early in their lifes.

If Twitch wants to keep those gambling streams then it would be fine, but they should also restrict that content to people over 18 or 16 years old, somehow.

Twitch came so late to take such initiative which became a big obstacle in the gaming promotion. However, they have certainly tried to raise some complaints behind their decision. Where they mentioned. The links and referral codes of the gambling sites are variously becoming harmful to their communities. Which are broken their rules. Here they have also mentioned some gambling sites. But I agree with you that minors should be restricted.

I wouldn't say that they are late, it's just the backlash that they got recently that they to make actions on it otherwise it will grow and could be out of hand for them.

Yes, it could be harmful to many, but then again, you can't please everyone as they say. There are a lot of social media platforms such as youtube who inadvertently advertised gambling, but they are very fast to react and take down that challenge. Twitch do is very different, it's a live stream so they have a team to watch which streamers are posting gambling and what not, so it's a infrastructure nightmare.

[ethereumhunter]

A sudden announcement like this from Twitch doesn't well indication for the gambling company. It is believed that Twitch may have banned this gambling sites due to some kind of restrictions by the government or others. Nowadays gambling has become a big industry. But I hope that such restrictions may be reduce in the near future. Besides, all these companies have to take alternative route for gambling promotion.

However, gambling companies have to follow Twitch's rules and I'm sure they will be able to find other ways to help them keep promoting. The restriction may be temporary but it will not stop gambling sites from promoting because they have already benefited a lot from the promotion. So even if Twitch has banned the promotion of gambling, the casino can still do promotion elsewhere and that's not a big problem for the casino.

[slaman29]

Twitch has not turned into a cesspool, I think it kinda always was lol. Influencers have always been a big problem for social media, kids are wasting their entire time with them and even adults, especially in crypto, paying way too much attention to them, paying them money and fooling others into thinking they can also become rich by "influencing".

It's not about gambling per se, it's about this mentality of distracting people and making poor choices for role models.

In that case, you must think that Twitter and Instagram are hell on earth because those social media are all about influencing. I have seen some cases in Instagram about people who basically fake being rich or photoshop themselves beyond recognition for the sake of getting followers and clout; Twitter is also the home of all kind of sick people.  You probably you have also listened to some cases yourself.

At least, on Twitch one can get entertainment and have fun watching some actually authentic and humble streamers and not only throwing money at girls streaming themselves in a jacuzzi.

Hehe you couldn't be more correct about this and, I could not say it enough. You might dig back into my post history to discover I used to have both Twitter and Instagram in the ICO days, and I ended up deleting them all because it got so terrible thanks to my crypto links. Before crypto it was great, I had accounts of artists and news I followed, wonderful until I ruined it with crypto.

Social media and authentic... hard to find. Authentic guys have private spaces anyway