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Twitch is owned by the multi billion dollar company Amazon. I think they can afford to take a loss if needed while they look for other ways to grow the platform. They're gonna be hurting at 1st but i'm sure they will recover their losses somewhere.
Interesting. I didn't know that Amazon-owned Twitch. If you talk about losses, they will recover. Their industry is large-sized. The loss from losing Gambling streamers will be a tiny amount for them. Note They only prohibit gambling streamers and not everyone else. So, I don't think they will care much about it. It would be great if any other competitive take this chance and rebuild/design their platform. surprising to know they are owned by amazon. well they have all the right to do whatever they think is necessary. a battle is lost. a company that big will not mind losing money and users, its just a tiny chunk of their profit. what streamers can do is just to move on to another platform that is more friendly to them. It isn't surprising to me. Amazon, Facebook, & Google own all major streaming platforms at this point. Microsoft had the best of them all with Mixer, but decided it wasn't worth the cash burn or headache to deal with music rights, etc... With streaming being a major player in the future of the digital age, it seems like it's mostly between Twitch and YouTube, AKA Amazon & Google. Google is dominating in recorded content while Amazon seems to have the live content down, likely because of their massive bandwidth capabilities. It very much is a battle between giants though.
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What do you guys think of this development? According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.
Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
I am a bit worried at this development, to be honest. Not only is twitch shooting themselves in the foot by banning a large audience as well as many infliencers, but they are also destroying an important part of the gambling casinos cash-flow. I think bigger online gambling casinos won't bother this as much as it will the smaller casinos trying to make names for themselves. Marketing tactics will have to become a bit sneakier. I wonder what kind of marketing the casinos will go for next, once gambling streams become completely regulated away ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I think it's because of pressure from people who have seen the potential dangers of video gambling on Twitch that they asked the government to regulate it. Eventually, Twitch banned the marketing of online casinos, even though these casinos are casinos that have a good reputation and are trusted by many gamblers. But this will not stop the casinos from promoting because they will use other avenues that are still wide open for them to spread the pleasure of playing gambling on their sites. Every casino site will do a new type of marketing, and they will probably use unconventional ways to try it out.
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September 23, 2022, 05:32:05 AM |
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This means that Stakes.com, duelbits, Roobet, and Rollbit are not regulated in the U.S. so they are restricted to the U.S.
I'm also just wondering why they made the dice games different, after all that game is very simple, why not the Poker, blackjack, and baccarat games? I just ask this. Is it because the government has a greater benefit here? It's as if it's not clear what the real reason is for taking it down.
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September 23, 2022, 06:05:03 AM |
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I think this step was taken after a streamer scammed around $300,000 from their followers to gamble online. Anyway, I would say it's a good step taken by twitch. Most of those streamers gamble with free money and they don't care if they lose the money since it is not their own money. This makes the followers feel like "winning is easy with no risks involved". Hence the followers gets curious and ends up gambling a lot of money. And I guess there are lots of underage twitch users that could be affected by those gambling contents.
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September 23, 2022, 06:09:54 AM |
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This isn't really a big deal considering the fact that there are several popular alternatives to shift to if they actually go through with the ban.
Streamers will most likely shift to platforms like YouTube etc and their followers will shift there too. The silver lining here is that this ban will make it more difficult for scammers to scam naive, gullible gamblers around the world.
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This isn't really a big deal considering the fact that there are several popular alternatives to shift to if they actually go through with the ban.
Streamers will most likely shift to platforms like YouTube etc and their followers will shift there too. The silver lining here is that this ban will make it more difficult for scammers to scam naive, gullible gamblers around the world.
For some reason Twitch seems to be most preferred for streamers. Finding an alternative to Twitch is not a big deal. Knowing this more applications might've got developed. I don't think people will shift to YouTube, and there is a question why Dice is in the list. To my understanding, it is the one that is being much watched and preferred by streamers as well as the viewers.
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This isn't really a big deal considering the fact that there are several popular alternatives to shift to if they actually go through with the ban.
Streamers will most likely shift to platforms like YouTube etc and their followers will shift there too. The silver lining here is that this ban will make it more difficult for scammers to scam naive, gullible gamblers around the world.
Exactly.Nothing will change,Youtube is another giant operated by Google and offer the live streaming.My daughter always like to watch live streaming of the different streamers for kids here and she is just 2.5 years old.There are loads of them and if Twitch goes on with the ban of gambling streams so far in Youtube I have seen a lot of huge wins in different slots there so I think this platform will be an accommodating one and it will just ask if you are above 18 years old to enter.Pretty simple.
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September 23, 2022, 08:46:51 AM |
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This means that Stakes.com, duelbits, Roobet, and Rollbit are not regulated in the U.S. so they are restricted to the U.S.
I'm also just wondering why they made the dice games different, after all that game is very simple, why not the Poker, blackjack, and baccarat games? I just ask this. Is it because the government has a greater benefit here? It's as if it's not clear what the real reason is for taking it down.
Actually, Stake.com might be restricted to US citizens as it has concerns regarding the regulation of US laws however there is another version of Stake that is only available to US Citizens which is at Stake.us. You can try and check out this thread about Stake.us and this is what the resolution made by Stake to allow users from US to continue gambling. Also, I wonder if they'll allow Stake.us to continue streaming at Twitch since the main reason why they banned these websites or gambling platforms is mostly about conflict with US regulations. But still, whatever decision they'll make, these streamers can still continue streaming at another platform that is not against Gambling.
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September 23, 2022, 09:23:28 AM |
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This means that Stakes.com, duelbits, Roobet, and Rollbit are not regulated in the U.S. so they are restricted to the U.S.
I'm also just wondering why they made the dice games different, after all that game is very simple, why not the Poker, blackjack, and baccarat games? I just ask this. Is it because the government has a greater benefit here? It's as if it's not clear what the real reason is for taking it down.
Actually, Stake.com might be restricted to US citizens as it has concerns regarding the regulation of US laws however there is another version of Stake that is only available to US Citizens which is at Stake.us. You can try and check out this thread about Stake.us and this is what the resolution made by Stake to allow users from US to continue gambling. Also, I wonder if they'll allow Stake.us to continue streaming at Twitch since the main reason why they banned these websites or gambling platforms is mostly about conflict with US regulations. But still, whatever decision they'll make, these streamers can still continue streaming at another platform that is not against Gambling. The way I interpret it, they prohibition is a blanket ban, so everything the relates to gambling specially crypto based casinos are going to be ban. Now the question is how is this ban going to affect those mentioned gambling platform like Stake? I would say that it wouldn't put any dent though, I mean gamblers will continue to play on any platform regardless if they will be promoted by crypto influencer in Twitch. So it's going to be business as usual and they are going to continue to make money. The effect will be felt by those influencers because obviously how will they promote those sites if there are no streams sites to begin with.
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September 23, 2022, 09:50:31 AM |
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This is crazy news man. I am so sad to hear Roobet is one of them. Obviously its a gambling site but come on Twitch, you could have done better than this to overcome the ref link sharing and promo code sharing issues? I bet roobet and many other sites were the reason twitch was receiving huge sign up and customer data base. What are they going to do with their business after these sites are taken off from their channel? This is definitely going to mark negative impact on the twitch for sure. What else they are going to stream if they are not allowing such renowned sites with great community that follows it? Definitely all the users must be unhappy with this one who used to enjoy the Roobet shows every friday or thursday. It was the best time to get some bucks over booz. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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September 23, 2022, 10:03:21 AM |
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Actually, Stake.com might be restricted to US citizens as it has concerns regarding the regulation of US laws however there is another version of Stake that is only available to US Citizens which is at Stake.us. You can try and check out this thread about Stake.us and this is what the resolution made by Stake to allow users from US to continue gambling. Also, I wonder if they'll allow Stake.us to continue streaming at Twitch since the main reason why they banned these websites or gambling platforms is mostly about conflict with US regulations. But still, whatever decision they'll make, these streamers can still continue streaming at another platform that is not against Gambling. The way I interpret it, they prohibition is a blanket ban, so everything the relates to gambling specially crypto based casinos are going to be ban. Now the question is how is this ban going to affect those mentioned gambling platform like Stake? I would say that it wouldn't put any dent though, I mean gamblers will continue to play on any platform regardless if they will be promoted by crypto influencer in Twitch. So it's going to be business as usual and they are going to continue to make money. The effect will be felt by those influencers because obviously how will they promote those sites if there are no streams sites to begin with. Twitch mentioned that the reason for banning the said gambling platforms such as Stake is mainly because of the conflict on the regulation on the US which is the licensure issue. However, most of the platforms they've banned are gambling platforms that operate with cryptocurrency but it seems like it's more on banning the whole Gambling related streams on their platform. Also, Twitch is just one of the streaming platforms where this streamer showcases their gambling site such as Stake but other streaming platforms are still available like Facebook. The banning will surely affect the said gambling website but not much as other advertisements and promotions are being made like what they offer here at the forum as Signature Campaign and banners on various platforms like social media influencers and events.
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If this thing will implement already there's a lot of streamers might change their platform because some of them really like to make a stream playing their gambling because at the same time they are paid with this kind of promotions and if the promotions has a good offer for sure they will find another way to keep promoting it, still it is good because they have different social for community engagement with their viewers still it has a large impact to the streamers too.
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It isn't surprising to me. Amazon, Facebook, & Google own all major streaming platforms at this point. Microsoft had the best of them all with Mixer, but decided it wasn't worth the cash burn or headache to deal with music rights, etc... With streaming being a major player in the future of the digital age, it seems like it's mostly between Twitch and YouTube, AKA Amazon & Google. Google is dominating in recorded content while Amazon seems to have the live content down, likely because of their massive bandwidth capabilities. It very much is a battle between giants though.
Mixer only lasted for a few years before it shut down due to racism and toxicity around the platform. It was great for a while when it housed the top streamers, although of course alongside these top streamers come the cesspool of backseaters living on their mom's basements, hence why toxicity is a major problem on Mixer after it became big. These huge companies can create their own entertainment platform and the huge names will easily follow, because that's where the money is. Then again, I always expect that these platforms will always have issues community-side because that's what streaming and content platforms community is all about: toxicity. I don't really have a problem with these corporations handling these streaming and content platforms because they are very much capable of delivering content with almost no downtime. The problem is their moderation and their policy sucks; they are way out of touch on their own platforms that they do not know what's happening down there.
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This isn't really a big deal considering the fact that there are several popular alternatives to shift to if they actually go through with the ban.
Streamers will most likely shift to platforms like YouTube etc and their followers will shift there too. The silver lining here is that this ban will make it more difficult for scammers to scam naive, gullible gamblers around the world.
I think banning gambling streaming on Twitch is the first step. Of course there are other streaming platforms. But I think others will also follow Twitch and ban gambling streaming. But all this will not happen immediately, but gradually.
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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
I think they did the right thing because their platform is being used to scam people. According to what I've read, one of their streamer borrowed some money to his fans and some popular streamers so basically twitch is somehow involved on his gambling addiction because he was able to fund his gambling habit by using his popularity on their platform. Some of the backlash came from popular streamers like Pokimane and Mizkif so Twitch really had to take action from gambling contents or else they will lose a lot of users.
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Didn't they already ban gambling sites? I remember some time ago thee was a lottery or something on Stake and when Eddy (CEO) was doing the livestream it suddenly went off the air and people were panicking.
I don't think this will do anything to protect people from gambling though. Most people just go to nice-looking slots machines and then part ways with their money, SMH.
And then after they lose all their bankroll, these same guys tell you that crypto is a big scam (by the way, have you noticed that Twitch only listed crypto casinos?)
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September 23, 2022, 12:28:56 PM |
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So, it's only a selected ban and not the entire gambling category in twitch will be banned but it so sad to see that most of the gambling sites included in the ban are famous and love the most here in our forum. So, what will be left there might be unfamous sites which can be risky.
Oh well, if they try to do something shady, they might be the next in line. I remember I read a thread last time in the gambling section about the streamer who borrows money to gamble and not paying back, maybe that also contributed in this for twitch to finalize their decision. Twitch is only afraid that their reputation will get affected so what they did there isn't wrong.
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September 23, 2022, 12:38:27 PM |
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This isn't really a big deal considering the fact that there are several popular alternatives to shift to if they actually go through with the ban.
It made noises, so it seems that this is a big deal because Twitch cave in to the pressures of those anti gamblers. So what they need is to clear out things and decided to ban gambling streamers. Streamers will most likely shift to platforms like YouTube etc and their followers will shift there too. The silver lining here is that this ban will make it more difficult for scammers to scam naive, gullible gamblers around the world.
They have been using Youtube already, but most likely they want to go to a new platform. Maybe one of the streamers themselves will have this idea to work and have someone developed for them a gambling that no one will stop and so the game will continue for them, they will have sponsorship and make money again.
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September 23, 2022, 12:44:27 PM |
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Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc. They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward. What do you guys think of this development? According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers. Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform? They want to be above standard and they want to be competitive because of streaming, Twitch.tv has become popular among other niche streamers they attained popularity and this is what makes them competitive but they want their reputation among its users clean, they are enjoying popularity since they launched in 2009 and they don't want their platform to get harm with these criticisms, anyway these gambling streamers can transfer to other platforms I'm sure their followers will follow them on other platforms.
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