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November 11, 2022, 06:57:00 AM |
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Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.
As far as I know on this matter, not all gambling platforms are hosted by Twitch, rather those hosted by Twitch are only unlicensed gambling live streams that are no longer available on Twitch. And from what I saw, it started to be implemented last October 18, 2022, so the only gambling platforms that can live streaming using the Twitch platform are licensed online gambling businesses. I read it in the media that the ban is only for unlicensed gambling websites but rules regarding games that are included in the prohibition of making some big gambling websites that are licensed no longer do stream there such as stake rollbit and duelbits, so this is really like a complete ban for crypto casinos, and many streamers do stream when playing casino games based on luck and since this is prohibited there is no longer any reason for gambling streamers to use Twitch. However apart from the types of games that are banned from publishing, there are also other rules that Twitch has implemented are no longer fun and profitable for streamers such as they are not allowed to share referral codes and some other rules, so twich will be abandoned and streamers and gambling websites will use other platforms.
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November 13, 2022, 12:29:29 PM |
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Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.
As far as I know on this matter, not all gambling platforms are hosted by Twitch, rather those hosted by Twitch are only unlicensed gambling live streams that are no longer available on Twitch. And from what I saw, it started to be implemented last October 18, 2022, so the only gambling platforms that can live streaming using the Twitch platform are licensed online gambling businesses. That's just a valid action from twitch. Twitch is a huge platform already. I think they have two reasons why they are banning these unlicensed casinos to be streamed; one is not supporting platforms which could promote risk for the viewers (scam or fraud online gambling platforms) even if they are being streamed by trusted streamers, they might not want twitch to be a part of the potentil problem. Another guess is monetary support from the gambling platform. Things being streamed on twitch are gettinf more players because of the exposure twitch and streamers are giving. And thode unregidtered are more likely non-paying as well. But these are just mere guesses. They probably have more valid reasons why.
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November 13, 2022, 12:36:10 PM |
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Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.
As far as I know on this matter, not all gambling platforms are hosted by Twitch, rather those hosted by Twitch are only unlicensed gambling live streams that are no longer available on Twitch. And from what I saw, it started to be implemented last October 18, 2022, so the only gambling platforms that can live streaming using the Twitch platform are licensed online gambling businesses. That's just a valid action from twitch. Twitch is a huge platform already. I think they have two reasons why they are banning these unlicensed casinos to be streamed; one is not supporting platforms which could promote risk for the viewers (scam or fraud online gambling platforms) even if they are being streamed by trusted streamers, they might not want twitch to be a part of the potentil problem. Another guess is monetary support from the gambling platform. Things being streamed on twitch are gettinf more players because of the exposure twitch and streamers are giving. And thode unregidtered are more likely non-paying as well. But these are just mere guesses. They probably have more valid reasons why. It is quite understandable if twitch did only ban gambling platforms that are unlicensed however most of the gambling platforms, they've banned are licensed such as Stake. But still, I guess that Twitch is avoiding any crypto gambling casino on their platform whether they are licensed or not. I'm not sure about the reason behind this but it is more likely connected to crypto.
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It will not be possible for streamers to bring it back because this time around it was a little bit more about law and a lot less about what twitch and amazon wanted. The usual thing is if you remove a feature then you are not going to get in trouble if you put it back, maybe the streamers liked that feature and they want it back, or maybe the viewers did, and that way you could put something back in.
But, this time around it’s not just a feature, it's literally a whole segment of it and that means they can't just make it come back that easily because there are laws involved. I believe that it’s a good decision to get rid of it, doesn't really hurt anyone, and helps a ton of people stay away from it.
When a streamer loses comfort in his favorite platform of presentations, it is not easy to return, he may have many followers, but by changing so much, it does not please him, neither for the streamer nor for his audience, but this should not be a reason to kick us out die, there are more platforms that allow them to have the freedoms that everyone is looking for, it will also be a great business for them because they will find very good sponsorships, just imagine a Drake, who is so famous and moves so many masses, sponsored by stake.com, which is one of the biggest casinos in the world, being on another platform, that platform fills up with money quickly.
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November 15, 2022, 10:50:55 AM |
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And now almost a month from their ban, it seems that gambling streams are still continuing. Paid gambling streamers are still being paid big time regardless of what platform they are going to show their game.
With that, did Twitch made the right decision?
Do they still make money out of those gambling streams in their platform? Because as far as I know there are still some that can stream it through Twitch.
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November 16, 2022, 03:46:17 AM |
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And now almost a month from their ban, it seems that gambling streams are still continuing. Paid gambling streamers are still being paid big time regardless of what platform they are going to show their game.
With that, did Twitch made the right decision?
Do they still make money out of those gambling streams in their platform? Because as far as I know there are still some that can stream it through Twitch.
Actions speak louder than words. Twitch made the announcement to show that they are moving closer to the policies of their parent organization (Amazon). But in the end, they need the revenue. So they can't go too hard on the gambling streams. If they crack down on the streams too hard, then they will end up like Tumblr. I don't need to remind anyone about what happened to Tumblr after they decided to ban certain content that contributed to >95% of their revenue. I understand that Twitch is owned by Amazon. But then they need to rethink whether enforcing all of Amazon's policies can be viable for Twitch.
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Money doesn't even speak and it guides our actions. I honestly thought Amazon would enforce a hard ban on gambling streaming, since the profit Amazon takes from their other branches should be more than enough to fill the void gambling streamers could left, but I suppose that cut is bigger than I thought It was. I have not checked Twitch lately and I still remember when it was mostly about video games and then attractive women in hot tubs and gambling appeared and found a place on the platform, perhaps Amazon indeed wants to avoid committing the same mistake Tumblr did, they banned explicit content and I think a lot of their user base moved to Twitter. It could be Amazon is not so sure on their market position in the long term if other streaming services end up benefiting from what they ban.
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And now almost a month from their ban, it seems that gambling streams are still continuing. Paid gambling streamers are still being paid big time regardless of what platform they are going to show their game.
With that, did Twitch made the right decision?
Do they still make money out of those gambling streams in their platform? Because as far as I know there are still some that can stream it through Twitch.
Actions speak louder than words. Twitch made the announcement to show that they are moving closer to the policies of their parent organization (Amazon). But in the end, they need the revenue. So they can't go too hard on the gambling streams. If they crack down on the streams too hard, then they will end up like Tumblr. I don't need to remind anyone about what happened to Tumblr after they decided to ban certain content that contributed to >95% of their revenue. I understand that Twitch is owned by Amazon. But then they need to rethink whether enforcing all of Amazon's policies can be viable for Twitch. It is interesting this is happening because many users in this thread predicted that this would be a terrible idea as gambling streamers were getting more and more popular in the platform. And now it seems that they are not enforcing this ban nowhere near as strictly as what they made it seem in the first place, and while this is a good thing it would be best if they dropped all pretenses and they simply allowed gambling streamers again, because even if they can still do their job the risk is still there and they could be banned at any moment if a moderator decides to enforce the rules one day.
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November 16, 2022, 12:23:05 PM |
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I read that streamers are allowed to show only gambling websites that are licensed in the United States. Is it true?
In any case, I think banning gambling streams is the same as banning movies for showing tobacco smoking or alcohol drinking. There are countries where such movies are banned, but I wouldn't want to live there. You can enforce age restrictions, but banning is stupid.
I'm glad that Twitch didn't actually ban gambling streaming.
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November 16, 2022, 12:30:41 PM |
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I read that streamers are allowed to show only gambling websites that are licensed in the United States. Is it true?
In any case, I think banning gambling streams is the same as banning movies for showing tobacco smoking or alcohol drinking. There are countries where such movies are banned, but I wouldn't want to live there. You can enforce age restrictions, but banning is stupid.
I'm glad that Twitch didn't actually ban gambling streaming.
In my country very rarely does anyone use it, it's still different from me, I always use Twitch to watch and learn how to play people, at least it's a little knowledge for playing gambling, and we can apply it when we play gambling, even though some of the games are different at least that can fill the void of my time to watch..
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Twitch as a platform follows Amazon obviously because its owned by it. But in my opinion Twitch administration is one of the most relaxed ones ever in social media network. They never truly ban anyone even when they openly violate rules through weirdo nude streams like bathtubs whatever... I am not surprised if they only banned 1-2 gambling related channels and left others alone. They are never strict at imposing rules.
That's crazy if they just let someone violate the rules that they set and won't do any legal actions about it or maybe twitch doesn't have any rules at all? Twitch is a gaming platform and there are lots of underage people who watch on it so streaming explicit content on there is so inappropriate but if they can do that then they can also ban gambling sites which are innocent are on the mainstream already but leave those who are not popular and not really trusted. With a strange behaviour like that, many will be glad instead that big gambling sites are removed from them. They need to transfer on a platform with a better management.
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November 16, 2022, 01:19:49 PM |
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I read that streamers are allowed to show only gambling websites that are licensed in the United States. Is it true?
In any case, I think banning gambling streams is the same as banning movies for showing tobacco smoking or alcohol drinking. There are countries where such movies are banned, but I wouldn't want to live there. You can enforce age restrictions, but banning is stupid.
I'm glad that Twitch didn't actually ban gambling streaming.
I heard that in some countries smoking scenes in films (even the old 60-70s where everyone smoked in any situation) are subject to the effect of "blurring". That is, you do not see a cigarette Sounds like complete nonsense! At the same time, the scenes of the murder and other things remain. Such censorship is very funny, since the movie is supposed to reflect life, but when I see a "blurred" cigarette in the bandit's hand, I want to laugh.
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November 16, 2022, 02:44:22 PM |
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In my opinion gambling should not be banned.
The ban is possible only in relation to activities that very seriously violate generally accepted social norms (gambling does not violate them). Streaming and gambling is a business. Business must be free. The leaders of Twitch are doing very wisely and adequately.
Formally, they declare bans on gambling streaming (these bans are imposed on them by Amazon), but in fact they ignore them. In the current situation, this is a very reasonable policy.
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November 16, 2022, 03:24:09 PM |
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In my opinion gambling should not be banned.
The ban is possible only in relation to activities that very seriously violate generally accepted social norms (gambling does not violate them). Streaming and gambling is a business. Business must be free. The leaders of Twitch are doing very wisely and adequately.
Formally, they declare bans on gambling streaming (these bans are imposed on them by Amazon), but in fact they ignore them. In the current situation, this is a very reasonable policy.
Actually, there is a solution to this, namely restrictions for certain countries that do not legalize gambling. I'm sure there are algorithms that can separate their users, such as by banning IPs from countries that don't allow gambling. However, if in the end Twitch doesn't want to change their decision to keep gambling banned, streamers have found many alternative applications including tiktok. I see a lot of gambling steamers already using tiktok.
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November 16, 2022, 03:29:34 PM |
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In my opinion gambling should not be banned.
The ban is possible only in relation to activities that very seriously violate generally accepted social norms (gambling does not violate them). Streaming and gambling is a business. Business must be free. The leaders of Twitch are doing very wisely and adequately.
Formally, they declare bans on gambling streaming (these bans are imposed on them by Amazon), but in fact they ignore them. In the current situation, this is a very reasonable policy.
Actually, there is a solution to this, namely restrictions for certain countries that do not legalize gambling. I'm sure there are algorithms that can separate their users, such as by banning IPs from countries that don't allow gambling. However, if in the end Twitch doesn't want to change their decision to keep gambling banned, streamers have found many alternative applications including tiktok. I see a lot of gambling steamers already using tiktok. Twitch has a huge community but gambling streamers still have lots of options since there are still other bigger platforms that allow them to stream freely. It seems like Twitch wants to protect its reputation but the sad thing is, it's also affecting gambling businesses as well as streamers who just want to earn. I think it's time for streamers to ask their followers to still follow and support them when they switch to other platforms so they will still b able to make money from streaming. I'm sure that more better opportunities await them.
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November 16, 2022, 10:10:50 PM |
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And now almost a month from their ban, it seems that gambling streams are still continuing. Paid gambling streamers are still being paid big time regardless of what platform they are going to show their game.
With that, did Twitch made the right decision?
Do they still make money out of those gambling streams in their platform? Because as far as I know there are still some that can stream it through Twitch.
Actions speak louder than words. Twitch made the announcement to show that they are moving closer to the policies of their parent organization (Amazon). But in the end, they need the revenue. So they can't go too hard on the gambling streams. If they crack down on the streams too hard, then they will end up like Tumblr. I don't need to remind anyone about what happened to Tumblr after they decided to ban certain content that contributed to >95% of their revenue. I understand that Twitch is owned by Amazon. But then they need to rethink whether enforcing all of Amazon's policies can be viable for Twitch. Yeah, and probably Twitch just gave in from the pressures, as I have suspected that once everything has settled down a bit and the issues forgotten, paid streamers and gamblers will continue and resume and will used their platform again or any other. And so it will continue to go on, it's not like Twitch is the crusader, on the contrary, the revenue that they have lost already could be amounting to millions. So again, I believed that they will slowly allow streamers again to show gambling in their platform in the next couple of months to make some money to survived in this business. Otherwise streaming services like Clive might be the to go platform for this paid streamers to it's a lost for Twitch.
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November 16, 2022, 11:04:17 PM |
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And now almost a month from their ban, it seems that gambling streams are still continuing. Paid gambling streamers are still being paid big time regardless of what platform they are going to show their game.
With that, did Twitch made the right decision?
Do they still make money out of those gambling streams in their platform? Because as far as I know there are still some that can stream it through Twitch.
I guess it's all just for publicity and PR matters. So, their critics would see that they're taking action on it nevertheless, Twitch is earning a lot from this gambling content and they just have to show that they're acting on probable complaints that they have received. I'm sure that they just can't stopped these contents and there's a large reach for these gambling streamers and content so they just can't have a whole implementation of total ban to them.
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Twitch has a huge community but gambling streamers still have lots of options since there are still other bigger platforms that allow them to stream freely. It seems like Twitch wants to protect its reputation but the sad thing is, it's also affecting gambling businesses as well as streamers who just want to earn. I think it's time for streamers to ask their followers to still follow and support them when they switch to other platforms so they will still b able to make money from streaming. I'm sure that more better opportunities await them.
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too. Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too. Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer. This may be a way to make money for platforms that still allow those streamers to upload their content.
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Twitch has a huge community but gambling streamers still have lots of options since there are still other bigger platforms that allow them to stream freely. It seems like Twitch wants to protect its reputation but the sad thing is, it's also affecting gambling businesses as well as streamers who just want to earn. I think it's time for streamers to ask their followers to still follow and support them when they switch to other platforms so they will still b able to make money from streaming. I'm sure that more better opportunities await them.
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too. Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too. Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer. This may be a way to make money for platforms that still allow those streamers to upload their content. For sure it did really make out some effects somehow in talks about revenue specially on Twitch considering that they had ban out gambling streams or content which it is really something but its not an overall thing which could put them on huge effect since they are still running despite of the ban.For those streamers who had been affected then pretty sure that they would really be switching up into other place which i do see the nearest platform would be Dlive. https://www.bigwinboard.com/former-twitch-crypto-streamers-find-new-home-on-dlive/https://thegamerstation.com/en/twitch-banned-gambling-streamers-switched-to-dlive/So not really that a big issue.
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