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October 02, 2022, 06:55:09 AM
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A dark tragedy in the history of Indonesian football, caused fear and became the world's attention. This chronology happened last night during the Arema FC vs. Persibaya match (Kanjuruhan Stadium, Malang). The death toll reached more than 130 people, not including serious injuries and minor injuries who are still being treated in hospital. A little review of the history of the two clubs where Arema FC has not lost for more than 30 years and today they lost so that the supporters did not accept the result. Supporters took to the field, causing unrest to get out of hand, police officers were forced to fire tear gas. In fact, according to FIFA rules, tear gas is prohibited. The impact of this incident will be very fatal, including FIFA sanctions. In addition, there will be other sanctions that punish Indonesian football to an unfathomable abyss.

Cases of victims who fall continue to grow, hopefully this will be a slap so that football does not become a place of loss of life. Football is an arena of entertainment, you can be a supporter but don't let your life be at stake. Several factors died from the impact of tear gas, crammed into the hallway of the gate leading to the stadium exit (victims included the elderly, adults and even children).

The President of the Republic of Indonesia finally issued an official statement to temporarily suspend the Indonesian League and confirmed the sanctions that Indonesia received, including hosting the U-20 World Cup and Indonesia being expelled from the 2023 Asian Cup as well as several other sanctions that overshadowed Indonesia.

Under FIFA Rules the use of tear gas is prohibited in Chapter III on Stewards, article 19 on Stewards on the sidelines.


With the current case, I feel sorry for the tragedy that befell the world of Indonesian football. May the victim find a place by his side and the bereaved family be given strength. I hope that in the future something like this will not happen again in any football world, both locally and internationally. Football is a world of entertainment that we should enjoy. Remember life is too precious to be sacrificed for anything.

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Video footage of seconds of chaos https://youtu.be/7QEjSKHefK8
Please note that this video contains elements of violence

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October 02, 2022, 10:19:55 AM
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This shouldn't have happened. Really sad of the incident, and a black day in the football history. The fans should know their limits, supporting their respective teams is good. More leagues are happening around, and now only football popularity around Asian countries growing good. Once again this incident will affect the football history in Asian Countries.


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October 02, 2022, 10:28:57 AM
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Yes, that's right. Regarding tear gas (in this case it is written "crowd control gas"), FIFA clearly prohibits its use in stadiums.
FIFA has also written rules / appeals related to how to anticipate the invasion of fans into the field area. I think a lot of the casualties in the tragedy were because the security forces fired tear gas.
indeed In a derby match, the potential for friction is bound to happen.
Riots and fans entering the field are definitely a possibility
But not by means of tear gas.
Firing tear gas, will make fans jostling for the exit, and eventually become hypoxic.
whatever it is I extend my deepest condolences to the families and friends of the victims who lost their lives following this tragic incident.
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October 02, 2022, 10:35:44 AM
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My deepest Condolences to those who were lost. I tried looking up more info from this after reading this post, it seems like the majority of the victims were due to the unrest that the release of tear gas did, leading to a stampede happening, as well as a lot of people getting deprived of oxygen, getting trampled later on. The death toll count has also gone past 160 people from what I gathered, and it seems like it still might increase. 

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I wouldn't really consider it to be Indonesian violence though afaik they're well known to be rather violent when it comes to football. To what I know it looked more like fans were questioning the team as to why they lost, but since a LOT of people went out to the field I guess it looked like something "was" about to happen. And even if it was imo the police should have first prioritized the safety of the team instead of going, well, what they did.

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October 02, 2022, 10:36:35 AM
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Yes I have read about this sad and tragic incident that happened in Indonesia. i don't really follow football but sport of any kind should be played and watched with a good sportsman spirit because nothing is important  than anyone's life. similar incident happened in Pakistan and Afghanistan cricket match in Dubai but things got under control by the authorities.  

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October 02, 2022, 11:20:06 AM
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What an awful incident occurred in Indonesia.

In Indonesia, a league game between Arema and Persebaya Surabaya supporters resulted in hundreds of deaths; football is supposed to be a game that brings people together and promotes fun. What a depressing day for this admirable game of football.
I send my sincere sympathies to the relatives of the victims as well as the Indonesian people.
This is outrageous; if the fans can't even enjoy a football game, they should be temporarily suspended.
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October 02, 2022, 11:51:18 AM
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My prayers go to the victims of this sad incident.

I am not really a fan of football, but I understand fans when they get frustrated and rowdy when their teams lose. I think it happens in every sport. It is just that this was handled poorly by the officers.

Hopefully, this will be a lesson for the officers, and they must train how to handle this kind of event. Handling crowds can be a big task especially if it escalates to riots or the like but with proper training and incidents like this can be avoided.



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October 02, 2022, 12:32:18 PM
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One of the saddest news that I have heard about football. My condolences to those who have lost! Rest in peace for those who are no longer alive.

I am dismayed to learn that the number of people who have lost their live is 170+ and can go higher. I learnt that the deaths were due to stampede and this is one of the worst football stadium tragedy. The Government of Indonesia should punish those responsible of controlling and taking decisions to control the crowd. There should be a proper enquiry be placed and steps should be taken to avoid such incidents in the future.

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October 02, 2022, 12:37:07 PM
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Fans who are too excessive will make the situation unfavorable, insulting and destruction of facilities, there is always a certain person who triggers it in Indonesia. Officers in the field should also not pressure the public with combat equipment because not all viewer are the same age, even many are women. I am deeply concerned about this incident and pray for the victims to rest in peace.

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October 02, 2022, 12:39:51 PM
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The rivalry between these two teams Arema Malang and Persebaya Surabaya can no longer be doubted, even for several years later, fans from both team between Aremania for Arema Malang fans and Bonek named for Persebaya Surabaya fans claimed they can get loss from other team but not from rival. I think this main problem why above 150 Arema Malang fans was pass away based on last few hours ago updated.

Last night I watch this derby match and both player respect each other and seems not really derby match like usually, but few minutes games have ended and Arema Malang player try apologize, some fans down to the field and make police man have make some thing not allowed by FIFA rule used tear gas to disperse the crowd, now Indonesia League suspend awhile until one weeks later until all problem clearly what happen and exactly have conclusion about responsibility from each people.

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October 02, 2022, 12:44:43 PM
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Fans who are too excessive will make the situation unfavorable, insulting and destruction of facilities, there is always a certain person who triggers it in Indonesia. Officers in the field should also not pressure the public with combat equipment because not all viewer are the same age, even many are women. I am deeply concerned about this incident and pray for the victims to rest in peace.

Well I have been in the stadium in really fought derby games where the fans have made all sort of not common things like bringing a coffin to the stadium to show the other team is the end but I have never seen fans causing such turmoil,such grief to the families of the victims and for what,just a football game in Indonesia where football is not that well developed.My brain fails to understand this happening in an event which is supposed to bring joy to the fans and not causing a lot of deaths,my prayers are with the families who lost dear ones in this meaningless event.

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I read the news with pain in my heart. Can only imagine the pains those families who may have lost someone is passing through. I still can't believe that over 120 people died not in a war field but in a football were fans to cheer on their favorite teams and be happy. How could a sport that unites followers and provides them delight suddenly become sour? I ask God to give the nation and the families the strength to endure the loss.

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This is a dark event that should be a lesson for everyone because it is clear that in this case everyone is harmed and indeed there is no type of sport that costs lives so this is very unfortunate.
I am speechless seeing something like this because it is clearly the second tragedy after the tragedy of Argentina a few decades ago.
I don't want to defend anyone but what the Supporters did was a mistake to enter the pitch after the final whistle but tear gas in a clear shot was a huge violation especially in a full stadium.

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This is the worst sports disaster I've read, this should not happen but there are so many fans that are fanatics and the authorities' use of tear gas caused the disaster
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if they did not use excessive force in controlling the crowd the death toll could have not reached that high, there is an ongoing investigation right now and there should be heads that will roll because of this, and if possible they should be charged, the police are no thinking the stadium is jam-packed and if there is a stampede injury and death will occur and that's exactly what happened.

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With the current case, I feel sorry for the tragedy that befell the world of Indonesian football. May the victim find a place by his side and the bereaved family be given strength. I hope that in the future something like this will not happen again in any football world, both locally and internationally. Football is a world of entertainment that we should enjoy. Remember life is too precious to be sacrificed for anything.


A very sad tragedy and our image as a civilized nation could change because of this tragedy.
imagine, there are many victims and those who died were actually innocent bystanders. the incident that night was really embarrassing because the face of Indonesian football would get a negative image in the eyes of the world community.

several international media such as Reuters, BBC, CNBC and even Al-Jazeera also took part in highlighting the deadly incident at the Kanjuruhan stadium when the match between Arema FC and Persebaya ended in chaos.
even the international media seem to give the impression that football in Indonesia is full of violence and unfriendliness.
but what can we do, this tragedy has reached all corners of the world and has shamed our image as a civilized nation. some news reports that FIFA will freeze all Indonesian league matches for the next 8 years, this is a bad consequence that we must accept if FIFA decides to freeze sanctions.

I hope it will not have an impact on our national team which will compete in the 2023 Asian Cup.

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This is a dark tragedy in the history of Indonesian football. This riot caused many deaths, with a total of 127 people dead and 180 still being treated. I did not even think that the death toll reached 127 people and even this became a very dark incident. The more violent supporters and the overcrowded stadium capacity made the commotion even more heated. even the security guard by the police could not handle it, even police officers also became victims of this riot of supporters. I can only say, that this was a terrible incident. Indonesia must improve itself, must regulate football matches properly so that football matches remain a sport and entertainment event, not become hell and cause many casualties.

https://news.detik.com/berita/d-6323804/127-orang-tewas-dalam-kerusuhan-di-stadion-kanjuruhan-malang

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This shouldn't have happened. Really sad of the incident, and a black day in the football history. The fans should know their limits, supporting their respective teams is good. More leagues are happening around, and now only football popularity around Asian countries growing good. Once again this incident will affect the football history in Asian Countries.


When people think sports is more than their lives then this kind of unrest situation happens, no one is really a sports lover if they only love the team or player when they are on their winning side, a real supporter will back them no matter what is the situation.

But FIFA is sanctioning the board? Atleast they tried something so we can hope the severity reduced by some rate. Huh

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October 02, 2022, 02:28:31 PM
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it's very sad that many fans died due to riots, I don't know what caused the riots, logically thinking it would be better even though we are fans of a certain club as well as enjoying it without having to do excessive actions

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October 02, 2022, 02:29:18 PM
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The death could have been higher, thank God that it did not happen because the stadium was filled beyond its capacity, there are 42,000 people in that stadium when its full capacity is only 38,000, and if you use tear gas to try to control the crowd that's chaos, it's clear here that the police do not have training in crowd control and are not brief on this situation where the World Football organizer is not allowing the use of tear gas, the government should fire and charge whoever ordered the use of teargas create a commission so this will not happen this kind of disaster anymore.

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October 02, 2022, 02:59:35 PM
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that's why football in Indonesia never progresses if the fans never maintain an attitude as a good supporter accept any defeat because it's just a match, I don't blame anyone, everyone needs to do self-introspection, tear gas is also prohibited and even then it's impossible Tear gas is fired if there is no chaos starting from the supporters, so there is no need to blame each other for this chaos because everyone should start introspecting themselves to be better in the future, condolences to all victims

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