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October 02, 2022, 03:50:43 PM |
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My deepest condolences and sympathy to the victims of this tragic incident. My heart is really saddened knowing that a night supposedly for pure entertainment has ended up killing the lives of lots of Indonesian audiences. Supporters weren't able to control their emotions which I think is one of the major root causes of this tragedy. I hope that the authorities have been mindful before throwing up tear gas because there are also innocent people including children who are in the said arena. It caused panic and chaos that resulted in a stampede. Supporters shouldn't risk their lives just to support their favorite team. It's a lesson learned after all but it's a sad thing that lots of people are now mourning and grieving.
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October 02, 2022, 04:24:48 PM |
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Dark history happened in Indonesian football, deepest condolences to the victims who died in this incident. It is very unfortunate that there was tear gas which made the fans panic to save themselves, which at that time had already exceeded the capacity of the audience. how is it possible that the stadium's capacity is only 38 thousand people but tickets sold for around 40 thousand.
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October 02, 2022, 06:42:08 PM |
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These people are just too emotional over a loss, they should have moved on and police should have handled it carefully and now this happened. Sending prayers to those who loss their loved ones over this tragedy, it's just saddening to know it's just over a football match and worst it doesn't even come from the players themselves who played the game but it was from the fans and the security forces.
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October 02, 2022, 06:49:57 PM |
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sport should be simple fun, a time to be distracted, the very opposite of violence... or tragedy like that heartbreacking. Today, even if I am living far away from such country, I read the news in an Italian newspaper and was shocked by the number of people involved in this tragedy. This remind to me the same tragedy that happens many years ago in Belgium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster were 39 people dies ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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October 02, 2022, 07:49:40 PM |
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sport should be simple fun, a time to be distracted, the very opposite of violence... or tragedy like that heartbreacking. Today, even if I am living far away from such country, I read the news in an Italian newspaper and was shocked by the number of people involved in this tragedy. This remind to me the same tragedy that happens many years ago in Belgium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster were 39 people dies ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Oh God what a terrible news it is. I have google and watched what has happened. i feel sorry for what has happened - it is true that sports should be fun and not violence but sometime fan loose control - it happened too in asia cup match between Pak vs Afghanistan - after Afghan lost the match there was so much violence in the stadium but Dubai police controlled them
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October 02, 2022, 08:03:48 PM |
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I don't quite understand why fans need to be violent when it comes to supporting their teams. For sure the teams that played on this match is disappointed that this has to happen in the first place. Many lives were lost just because fans cannot contain their disappointment and disbelief to the result of the match. Uncontrolled emotions almost always lead to a lot of negative events. For die-hard sports fans out there, keep in mind that a loss is not the end for your team. If you really support your team that much, just hope for them to get back on their feet and come back stronger to their next events.
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October 02, 2022, 08:34:47 PM |
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It was a really unfortunate situation and one of the worst riot incidents in Football history and around 180 people loosing their life is a tragedy that i have not heard as long as i was following the sport for more than 37 years. Out of curiosity made a google search and found there were similar incident in 1964 during Argentina and Peru match and the death toll was double this and the sole reason to avoid gas cannisters by FIFA was solely because of this incident, but to have a disaster of this magnitude in this era falls under the administration as they did not follow the safety protocols.
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October 02, 2022, 09:34:42 PM |
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I don't quite understand why fans need to be violent when it comes to supporting their teams. For sure the teams that played on this match is disappointed that this has to happen in the first place. Many lives were lost just because fans cannot contain their disappointment and disbelief to the result of the match. Uncontrolled emotions almost always lead to a lot of negative events. For die-hard sports fans out there, keep in mind that a loss is not the end for your team. If you really support your team that much, just hope for them to get back on their feet and come back stronger to their next events.
I believe someone instigated the fans into running to the field that triggers the police to use illegal means. It is easier to manipulate fans when they are high of emotion and disappointment. I feel sorry to these innocent victim but is angered by the thought that someone had sparked that commotion. I hope those policemen who used illegal means get punished and the people who instigated the fans be caught. I hate it when someone plays with the emotions of fans that often times resulted into mass confusion, stampede and death.
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October 02, 2022, 09:34:56 PM |
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That was very sad news. Too many people died for basically nothing. Such a tragedy...
Rest in peace to all people who lost their lives. I hope we won't see such incident again. My heart is with you Indonesian people. <3
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October 02, 2022, 09:50:29 PM |
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I don't quite understand why fans need to be violent when it comes to supporting their teams. For sure the teams that played on this match is disappointed that this has to happen in the first place. Many lives were lost just because fans cannot contain their disappointment and disbelief to the result of the match. Uncontrolled emotions almost always lead to a lot of negative events. For die-hard sports fans out there, keep in mind that a loss is not the end for your team. If you really support your team that much, just hope for them to get back on their feet and come back stronger to their next events.
I believe someone instigated the fans into running to the field that triggers the police to use illegal means. It is easier to manipulate fans when they are high of emotion and disappointment. I feel sorry to these innocent victim but is angered by the thought that someone had sparked that commotion. I hope those policemen who used illegal means get punished and the people who instigated the fans be caught. I hate it when someone plays with the emotions of fans that often times resulted into mass confusion, stampede and death. this is a very unfortunate event in the sports history of their country. the police force should have been more logical with their method, but it was already too late before they figured out that such method only caused so much chaos in the field. instead of enjoying the game, this will be a traumatic experience to most. it will be a learning experience for their authorities, how to handle delicate situations like this in the name of sports, particularly if the two teams are long-time rivals.
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October 02, 2022, 09:51:27 PM |
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This kind of disaster can happen in any country at all, something has to be learnt from their deaths so its not just a waste of human life. I had no idea FIFA was certain in its rules of a match, precisely to avoid this occurrence but it has been ignored again. Some teams have fans so troublesome they are banned from attending matches due to repeated damage and harm, it seems any threat of problems like this has to be avoided with greater caution and reduced numbers. Theres a temptation to sell as many tickets are possible when the opposite needs to happen with known trouble spots.
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October 02, 2022, 10:29:24 PM |
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Condolences to the families, Football is very popular in Indonesia the stadium is filled beyond capacity and if there's something like this could happen if there are provocations, the police do not have effective crowd control and instead prefer to use tear gas that results in stampede and because of this stampede resulted to the death of at least 130 people and hundreds of injured people, they should have not used it at all with a crowd as huge as this it's totally chaos as fans will head to the exit gate to avoid the tear gas, the sporting world should learn from this tragic.
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October 02, 2022, 10:35:24 PM |
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Atleast after this incident fans should understand football is a sports and we need to give the support to the player and have the mind to accept loss and winning. Whether the team win/fail the supporters should back the team. This will keep the team boosted and make them do better for their fans.
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October 02, 2022, 10:41:02 PM |
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I don't quite understand why fans need to be violent when it comes to supporting their teams. For sure the teams that played on this match is disappointed that this has to happen in the first place. Many lives were lost just because fans cannot contain their disappointment and disbelief to the result of the match. Uncontrolled emotions almost always lead to a lot of negative events. For die-hard sports fans out there, keep in mind that a loss is not the end for your team. If you really support your team that much, just hope for them to get back on their feet and come back stronger to their next events.
I believe someone instigated the fans into running to the field that triggers the police to use illegal means. It is easier to manipulate fans when they are high of emotion and disappointment. I feel sorry to these innocent victim but is angered by the thought that someone had sparked that commotion. I hope those policemen who used illegal means get punished and the people who instigated the fans be caught. I hate it when someone plays with the emotions of fans that often times resulted into mass confusion, stampede and death. Does it come from the losing team or is it just one of those stupid urges from the same fans to charge at the other? That's really unfortunate and the one who instigated this violent clash should be put behind bars. Imagine almost 200 people died because of this violent clash and fans are played with their emotions to hurt other people. Even those who are meant to stop the fights are badly hurt and some are critically injured. It's a sad day for sports and mostly for the families of those whose lives perished in this very unfortunate event.
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October 02, 2022, 10:49:14 PM |
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This is heartbreaking news. My condolences to the victim's family. This situation can be handled better if the policemen in charge of security had been trained regularly. They could have anticipated that there is a chance for fans to get wild since there are already events like this in the history of Indonesian football.
There is no point in blaming now since I think the people responsible for this commotion are being held now. Prayers for the souls of the departed.
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I wonder which policy will prevail regarding the use of tear gas or what FIFA refers to as "crowd control gas"? This isn't the first time Indonesian police used such method to disperse large and violent crowds. I'd assume they are legally allowed to do so if the situation escalated to a riot.
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October 02, 2022, 11:39:17 PM |
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I wonder which policy will prevail regarding the use of tear gas or what FIFA refers to as "crowd control gas"? This isn't the first time Indonesian police used such method to disperse a large and violent crowds. I'd assume they are legally allowed to do so if the situation escalated to a riot.
This have turned to be a riot, but police could've controlled it in a better way. Also there is a need of change in the stadium architecture, because in most of the ground the pathways were very narrow and something unexpected leads into massive disaster. It is big mistake that the police fired tear gas and the death is out of the stampede.
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October 02, 2022, 11:43:16 PM |
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Dark history happened in Indonesian football, deepest condolences to the victims who died in this incident. It is very unfortunate that there was tear gas which made the fans panic to save themselves, which at that time had already exceeded the capacity of the audience. how is it possible that the stadium's capacity is only 38 thousand people but tickets sold for around 40 thousand.
this is where the committee's stupidity lies, what they hope is that the tickets are sold out and the crowd fills the stadium. Honestly, I support FIFA and PSSI to disband AREMA FC forever because this is not a clash between fans, this is purely a human tragedy, AREMA has stupid fans who can't accept defeat, fans and also the police there are mass murderers.
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October 02, 2022, 11:59:28 PM |
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Condolence to the families that lost their loved ones in this tragedy.
It's really a sad day for Indonesia and the whole world as well. We don't like seeing things like that happening in a sports event where lots of fans are there to simply support the players there and have some entertainment as well.
I hope videos will not surface anymore and spread out on various sites or social media platforms.
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October 03, 2022, 12:32:29 AM |
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I would say it was an absolutely tragic event, but in fact that word would still be too little to describe the death of almost 2 hundred people who left their home for a moment of distraction and now they will never return to it. It is also unfortunate for those who will have lifelong after-effects from this tragic event. I sincerely hope that as many guilty people are identified and that they receive the maximum penalty for the act of massacre they caused... and everything indicates that this should happen for those responsible who fired the tear gas... something that should only be used in an open environment to dispense with the crowds.
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