433 Winners to split $4,015,156.265 6/55 Grand Lotto Jackpot

[Road21Bitcoin]

Hot News in the Philippines:



Source: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/01/22/433-winners-to-split-p236m-655-grand-lotto-jackpot


Other info:

Jackpot Prize: $4,015,156.265

The Winning Combination is 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54 (it's divisible by 9)

58.80 Pesos equivalent to $1

433 Winners

The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax)


Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  

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[livingfree]

Wow, that's a lot of winners.

And the first thing that when a jackpot like this in a grand lotto is won by hundreds of people, 433 to be specific, it's all about being coordinated bets at different locations.

Like there's someone who has leaked the winning combination but I don't think that's possible if the draw itself is televised and supervised. Since it's a hot issue, sure that there will be investigators about it but if it's a real thing. Then, congrats to the winners. 

[bisdak40]

Somehow this is funny for me because this might be the first of its kind, I mean how in the world that almost half a thousand won that lotto ticket where the probability of winning this kind of gambling is close to none but here we are, waking to a piece of very intriguing news.

Nonetheless, this is legit because these winners will be verified and I think the agency in charge will release the correct number of winners who have claimed their prizes and they won't be anonymous anymore as their winnings is not a lot of money that can compromise their safety.

[Botnake]

This is the first time, probably this will be put in the guinness world record.

I believe there are irregularities here, it could be manipulated, and it's nice to know that some senators from the Philippines wants a probe on this one.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1673977/minority-senators-seek-probe-on-extraordinary-grand-lotto-draw

MANILA, Philippines — Minority senators are seeking an investigation into the “extraordinary” Grand Lotto draw where 433 bettors all got the winning combination for the ₱236 million jackpot.

Senate Minority Leader Aquilino “Koko” Pimentel III and Senator Risa Hontiveros on Sunday said a Senate resolution is needed to allay suspicion of irregularity in the results of the lottery that is managed by the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO).

[YuginKadoya]

This is pretty much highly Improbable to happen and the possibility of it happening is pretty much small, it could be a coincidence but many people are not really buying it, well right now the government is investigating this matter, but for me, this is the 1st time this has happened but it really can happen and for me, I am not saying that this is a Lotto Gambling Heist but there is a thinking in the back on my mind that it is pretty unusual so I will let the government investigation check this out 1st  before getting into a conclusion well if this is a Lotto Gambling Heist it is not an elaborate one and people on the PCSO will surely use this to their personal gain,

The Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office PCSO was formed in the year 1934 so it is 88 years since that year, that is why it is highly trusted by many and because it is working on some charity work means a small percentage of the ticket sales will go to charity and it has changed many lives in the Philippines so it is surely trusted until this incident happen, but I am waiting for further investigation if those winners would likely show themselves or be identified by the government to be legit.

[Japinat]

There should be an investigation because people are not buying their explanation.

This is the time that we will know if there's really corruption in PCSO or not.
Providing the ticket would be impossible if this is manipulated, so as a gambler, I like to find out if they are really telling the truth.

Good luck to the officials on answering during the investigation, my guess is there are people here that will be jailed after the investigation.HOPEFULLY!

[Boristhecat]

There should be an investigation because people are not buying their explanation.

This is the time that we will know if there's really corruption in PCSO or not.
Providing the ticket would be impossible if this is manipulated, so as a gambler, I like to find out if they are really telling the truth.

Good luck to the officials on answering during the investigation, my guess is there are people here that will be jailed after the investigation.HOPEFULLY!

433 lucky people who guessed 6 numbers really looks like something incredible. But maybe the secret is that it's a "beautiful" sequence (all numbers are divisible by 9) and some people like to bet on beautiful sequences. So when such a sequence falls out, we have many winners. I am sure that if the sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6 or 5,10,15,20,25,30 fell out, then there would also be a lot of winners, perhaps even more than in this case.

[Jemzx00]

This is the first time, probably this will be put in the guinness world record.

I believe there are irregularities here, it could be manipulated, and it's nice to know that some senators from the Philippines wants a probe on this one.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1673977/minority-senators-seek-probe-on-extraordinary-grand-lotto-draw

MANILA, Philippines — Minority senators are seeking an investigation into the “extraordinary” Grand Lotto draw where 433 bettors all got the winning combination for the ₱236 million jackpot.

Senate Minority Leader Aquilino “Koko” Pimentel III and Senator Risa Hontiveros on Sunday said a Senate resolution is needed to allay suspicion of irregularity in the results of the lottery that is managed by the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO).

There are a lot of coincidence that happened on this lotto results especially with how statically impossible for it to occur. Along with how the lotto numbers are divisible by 9, the amount of winners is almost impossible which is why various probability and statistics major are coming in to provide how unlikely for it to happen.

It's great to know that the senators are also suspicious of how this happened and hopefully we will be given definitive proof that there's no abnormalities and manipulation happened. I am looking forward for especially that Senator Risa Hontiveros are unto it.

[virasisog]

There should be an investigation because people are not buying their explanation.

This is the time that we will know if there's really corruption in PCSO or not.
Providing the ticket would be impossible if this is manipulated, so as a gambler, I like to find out if they are really telling the truth.

Good luck to the officials on answering during the investigation, my guess is there are people here that will be jailed after the investigation.HOPEFULLY!

433 lucky people who guessed 6 numbers really look like something incredible. But maybe the secret is that it's a "beautiful" sequence (all numbers are divisible by 9) and some people like to bet on beautiful sequences. So when such a sequence falls out, we have many winners. I am sure that if the sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6 or 5,10,15,20,25,30 fell out, then there would also be a lot of winners, perhaps even more than in this case.

Maybe there are just a huge number of people who have the same number combination. Some people don't prefer complex combinations and focus on the basics and surprisingly, they all won the same day. The PCSO held a press conference regarding the result since lots of people are getting more suspicious about it. They even released the location of 433 winners but most people are still not fully convinced.

[Slow death]

It is very difficult that there can be so many winners at the same time, there is probably some scheme with these victories, but the question is how would it be possible for them to scheme with so many people? how could more than 400 people be part of the scheme? or could it be that some are part of the scheme but in order not to raise too much suspicion (not to be connected) they decided to add more than 400 people so as not to track them down, in any case if they do some investigation and conclude that there was no scheme and that all was done with utmost rigor and honesty so this will be the first case in the world where there are more than 400 winners at the same time

[KTChampions]

  Damn this is so funny!

It turns out that we are seeing in real life the dumbest thing that can be imagined in relation to lotteries.

1. People choose "pretty" numbers.
2. This increases the number of winners -> reduces the winnings of each of them.
3. Such a result undermines the credibility of the lottery and gives rise to suspicions of its honesty.

As a result, absolutely everyone ends up in a (relative) loss. LOL!

[Baofeng]

Yeah, read that news locally as well, and you really have to think if there is irregularities or simply coincidence that this happen and the odds of it happening.

I guess they have decided that they should have a winner already. But it should be split up to many winners and then draw that number,  . But if I don't like the idea that it should be look at by the PH Senate, such a waste of time and budget for them. This is not a priority.

[bitbollo]

How many people are usually able to guess this winning sestine?

Anyway... I think it went well for them ... it is still a quite considerable sum even if it is not a life-changing sum ...

This event it reminds me of a similar fact that happened in Italy some years ago.
Many players have guessed the "13" at the "Totocalcio" (the best you can get).
But the results were so simple to guess that the final prize pool was divided into so many winners who ... practically won 30 euro each!

Imagine that a retired friend of mine had guessed that coupon.
The same evening he had a great dinner with his grandchildren spending 10 times, convinced of who knows what huge prize money he would receive

[Viscore]

Wow, that's a lot of winners.

And the first thing that when a jackpot like this in a grand lotto is won by hundreds of people, 433 to be specific, it's all about being coordinated bets at different locations.

Like there's someone who has leaked the winning combination but I don't think that's possible if the draw itself is televised and supervised. Since it's a hot issue, sure that there will be investigators about it but if it's a real thing. Then, congrats to the winners. 

Everyone was surprised about the number of winners we have at the previous lottery draw as usually, there's only 1 or 2 winners who will win the jackpot. But this time its very unusual. But i also don't think the game is rigged or someone has leaked the winning combination as the draw game is in live. Let's just say these people are just lucky enough, and we should also be happy for them so they can enjoy their winning amount.

[coin-investor]

This is the first time, probably this will be put in the guinness world record.

I believe there are irregularities here, it could be manipulated, and it's nice to know that some senators from the Philippines wants a probe on this one.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1673977/minority-senators-seek-probe-on-extraordinary-grand-lotto-draw

MANILA, Philippines — Minority senators are seeking an investigation into the “extraordinary” Grand Lotto draw where 433 bettors all got the winning combination for the ₱236 million jackpot.

Senate Minority Leader Aquilino “Koko” Pimentel III and Senator Risa Hontiveros on Sunday said a Senate resolution is needed to allay suspicion of irregularity in the results of the lottery that is managed by the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO).

There are a lot of coincidence that happened on this lotto results especially with how statically impossible for it to occur. Along with how the lotto numbers are divisible by 9, the amount of winners is almost impossible which is why various probability and statistics major are coming in to provide how unlikely for it to happen.

It's great to know that the senators are also suspicious of how this happened and hopefully we will be given definitive proof that there's no abnormalities and manipulation happened. I am looking forward for especially that Senator Risa Hontiveros are unto it.

We already have a similar topic to this thread

Is this statistically possible in a lottery?

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there was never controversy in the Philippine lottery until this happen, this is something the management has no control over, I still believe in the results, as manipulating the result will make the government lose by billions of pesos but I welcome the investigation so things can be clarified and all doubts and suspicious will vanish or if there are irregularities, heads should roll, this lottery is supported by the majority of the people so it should be above suspicion.

[Yogee]

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  

What's with the eye roll? Looks like you are leaning towards manipulation with that kind of reaction.

The thing is that it's hard to prove something went wrong by just crunching the numbers that are available. I mean being divisible by 9 is not enough evidence. I bet out of millions buying tickets that there are also hundreds using numbers divisible by five or four.

[theskillzdatklls]

I guess use government sanctioned anything and you get rekt.

Use Provably Fair software whenever possible.

That's the only lesson you can really take away from this. Should already be known by anyone with a brain anyway.

[PX-Z]

You will be awe and also a funny thing how such so many number wins. Manipulation is quite possible but is hard to prove on how it works and it manipulated. Well, its all about being lucky and randomness of what numbers come out. I don't think senate probe will do something or debunk something. It will just a long process and a waste of money/budget there.

[goinmerry]

Like there's someone who has leaked the winning combination but I don't think that's possible if the draw itself is televised and supervised.

The manipulation is not through the winning ball combinations but they can add fake winners for the prize to be split in more.

I know it's possible that a winning combination that is divisible by 9 can really happen even at 0.000000001% but there's no way to determine how many real winners really got those number combinations.

433 jackpot winners at the same time are insane. It needs an investigation.

[TimeTeller]

Like there's someone who has leaked the winning combination but I don't think that's possible if the draw itself is televised and supervised.

The manipulation is not through the winning ball combinations but they can add fake winners for the prize to be split in more.

I know it's possible that a winning combination that is divisible by 9 can really happen even at 0.000000001% but there's no way to determine how many real winners really got those number combinations.

433 jackpot winners at the same time are insane. It needs an investigation.

I also thought that winning lottery jackpot is one in a million. But here, they are hundreds.
We don't know the absolute truth here, if there are other fake winners or not.
But I am sure, not all of them can claim their winnings, as some may have lost their ticket or forgot their ticket.
But this is the first time that I have heard lotto jackpot winners with such big number.
People are getting good in predicting the winning combinations???