433 Winners to split $4,015,156.265 6/55 Grand Lotto Jackpot

[chaser15]

Really a suspicious one. I think this is the first time in the whole world lottery news that the number of jackpot winners went up to 433 winners.

That seems impossible to believe as it's really a rare case that those 433 people will pick that crazy combination of jackpot numbers.

Let's see what PCSO will say about this.

[electronicash]

Really a suspicious one. I think this is the first time in the whole world lottery news that the number of jackpot winners went up to 433 winners.

That seems impossible to believe as it's really a rare case that those 433 people will pick that crazy combination of jackpot numbers.

Let's see what PCSO will say about this.

very rare.
its a small amount to be laundered this way. but a discussion like this blurted out in a party i've been where in our country that lottery is one way of doing it. but if this is true. its good to see many winners, people are struggling due to unemployment.

[Doell]

Impossible but it already happened, if under 10 people the winner may not be in doubt, because usually not more than that. Logically, 400 people have the same prediction, it is very unreasonable if for lotto gambling, I personally have negative thoughts about it, could be there indications of cheating from some of any employees at there or anything else.

[Jemzx00]

There was never controversy in the Philippine lottery until this happen, this is something the management has no control over, I still believe in the results, as manipulating the result will make the government lose by billions of pesos but I welcome the investigation so things can be clarified and all doubts and suspicious will vanish or if there are irregularities, heads should roll, this lottery is supported by the majority of the people so it should be above suspicion.

Actually, the controversy has always been there but only a few believe in it and sometimes I believe in it as well especially when there are suspicious draws happening like this one. I think this kind of controversy on lotto also exists in another country as well which involves people laundering money. There would be effect to PCSO if these will proven fake or there was a really a manipulation happened however I doubt that it will affect them as much since there will always be people who will try their luck on the lottery.

What's with the eye roll? Looks like you are leaning towards manipulation with that kind of reaction.

The thing is that it's hard to prove something went wrong by just crunching the numbers that are available. I mean being divisible by 9 is not enough evidence. I bet out of millions buying tickets that there are also hundreds using numbers divisible by five or four.

For me who lives in the same country where this happened, I think the eye roll which signifies manipulation of the lottery draw is appropriate. Other than the lottery numbers drawn which are divisible by 9, the amount of winners is also suspicious as that amount is nearly impossible to happen. You can try to check all supporting computations on how much this is impossible to happen from all the probabilities and statics majors. Also, Even the government is eyeing to check on the legitimacy of the result.

[coin-investor]

Really a suspicious one. I think this is the first time in the whole world lottery news that the number of jackpot winners went up to 433 winners.

That seems impossible to believe as it's really a rare case that those 433 people will pick that crazy combination of jackpot numbers.

Let's see what PCSO will say about this.

I've seen the video because it is held live for the audiences to see, I didn't see any irregularities just like all the other draws for the past many years, the combination is weird 09-45-36-27-18-54, and the winning combinations when you add up ended in digit 9, this is something out of this world 433 winners and all the number ended in number 9, I think the commission that will investigate should get a good mathematician to check the probabilities and interview some of the winners if they picked the lucky pick or they are taking care of their numbers by betting on it many times.

[crzy]

Is this the most winning lottery of all time? I can't find any in google so maybe this is a record breaking.
There's a lot of issues with our lottery system and even the legislator are doubting about the result of this lottery, now they want to investigate this. Though the PCSO are very confident that the data is correct and the winners can start claiming their reward. This might look impossible, but with our current corrupt system everything is possible.  

[aioc]

Is this the most winning lottery of all time? I can't find any in google so maybe this is a record breaking.
There's a lot of issues with our lottery system and even the legislator are doubting about the result of this lottery, now they want to investigate this. Though the PCSO are very confident that the data is correct and the winners can start claiming their reward. This might look impossible, but with our current corrupt system everything is possible.  

This is the first time here in the Philippines, we are used to seeing 3 to 5 winners in a jackpot but never that big number my social feeds are full of this news and so are the news daily, this is very controversial but based on what I've read, it's not really impossible to have that huge numbers but what is rarer and mind-boggling are all the number combinations when you add it up ended n number 9, the lottery denied any anomaly but we'll see that since the senate will launch an investigation, but I think it will be futile and just a waste of time as the draw was held live and why would they picked that big numbers of winners it will just put their credibility on the line.

[Daltonik]

There can be both manipulation and an honest draw, and nothing will change from what the PCSO says, if there are no internal leaks from the organizer or an independent investigation, but just the number of winners can also indicate an honest lottery.

[cabron]

Is this the most winning lottery of all time? I can't find any in google so maybe this is a record breaking.
There's a lot of issues with our lottery system and even the legislator are doubting about the result of this lottery, now they want to investigate this. Though the PCSO are very confident that the data is correct and the winners can start claiming their reward. This might look impossible, but with our current corrupt system everything is possible.  

Investigating things like this is non sense. 1-3 winners or 433 will not have any difference all the money goes to the winners even if this is manipulated or not. There are more things to do in the government than waste the time investigating a corrupt system.

Its odd but if the lottery system manipulates it to have more winners regularly, what else can be done? People will be happy and don't they want people to be happy? $9,272.878 each is not so bad. 

[PX-Z]

but based on what I've read, it's not really impossible to have that huge numbers but what is rarer and mind-boggling are all the number combinations when you add it up ended n number 9

It's not really impossible to have such number of winners since most people participate to this kind of lottery have their own number patterns, analysis and etc. The winning result is just pure coincidence that is divisible by 9.

The senate hearing like i said will be a waste of time, PCSO will just show them the copy of all winning tickets, or those 433 will testified, and last sort is showing the machine or software used for generating random number result.

If there is cheating happened the questions are, why just now?
If not, so all the jackpot winners in the past were all fixed? If those were all fixed we should see a pattern of winners, like most of them have family related to PCSO, government, etc. but its not. I'll say it again, this is just pure coincidence.

[Baofeng]

but based on what I've read, it's not really impossible to have that huge numbers but what is rarer and mind-boggling are all the number combinations when you add it up ended n number 9

It's not really impossible to have such number of winners since most people participate to this kind of lottery have their own number patterns, analysis and etc. The winning result is just pure coincidence that is divisible by 9.

The senate hearing like i said will be a waste of time, PCSO will just show them the copy of all winning tickets, or those 433 will testified, and last sort is showing the machine or software used for generating random number result.

If there is cheating happened the questions are, why just now?
If not, so all the jackpot winners in the past were all fixed? If those were all fixed we should see a pattern of winners, like most of them have family related to PCSO, government, etc. but its not. I'll say it again, this is just pure coincidence.

Perhaps because it did make a lot of noise in public that even the Senate want to see if there is no cheating or not.

It's not about the previous winners, it's about the current results because we are questioning it this is just a coincidence or not.  It really looks suspicious in the beginning, but for me, this is just might be what we call betting behaviors, wherein we  bet on numbers that we usually do for many years. And it just so happen that you can just write in a straight line those numbers as easy as that and then hit the winner numbers. So again this is possible and as you have said, just pure coincidence.

[Fortify]

Hot News in the Philippines:

Source: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/01/22/433-winners-to-split-p236m-655-grand-lotto-jackpot

Other info:

Jackpot Prize: $4,015,156.265

The Winning Combination is 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54 (it's divisible by 9)

58.80 Pesos equivalent to $1

433 Winners

The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax)

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  

Maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic, but that seems like a relatively low amount to win when you consider you had to pick 6 numbers. I might be rather disappointed when finding out there was a $4 million jackpot but it ended up getting split among so many people that it was diluted so far down. I guess it can still go a rather long way in the Phillipines and if you consider the cost to enter then you're still up a massive amount. It makes me wonder how many other people follow similar patterns, like multiples of ten, when participating in these lotteries on a regular basis. Anyway, let's hope that a substantial chunk of ticket revenue goes towards charity causes as well.

[serjent05]

Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds?  

Anyone can speculate of the possible rig but the problem is how to prove it.  Besides there is also a government representative during the draw so basically this representative would be the witness of fair lotto draw unless this person is charged of corruption of colluding with the PCSO of rigging the result.

Of course, it is possible to have that kind of combination.  I wonder, they don't question when the lottery agency draws a winning number and no one win, then they questioned the result when lots of people win the grand jackpot.  If they are suspicious about it, why not investigate the people who happen to have the winning ticket?  After all, if the machine and balls are rigged, they probably had it fixed already.

[crzy]

Is this the most winning lottery of all time? I can't find any in google so maybe this is a record breaking.
There's a lot of issues with our lottery system and even the legislator are doubting about the result of this lottery, now they want to investigate this. Though the PCSO are very confident that the data is correct and the winners can start claiming their reward. This might look impossible, but with our current corrupt system everything is possible.  

Investigating things like this is non sense. 1-3 winners or 433 will not have any difference all the money goes to the winners even if this is manipulated or not. There are more things to do in the government than waste the time investigating a corrupt system.

Its odd but if the lottery system manipulates it to have more winners regularly, what else can be done? People will be happy and don't they want people to be happy? $9,272.878 each is not so bad. 

The problem here, they can hire people just to pretend he won the lottery and it can happen as well even on a single winner with a huge amount of reward, this is why many loses their trust to this agency because of the corruption. Investigating this wont be a waste of time if the government really want to clean the agency and free from corruption, this can also a way to regain the trust of the public and to kill the issue of corruption.

[wheelz1200]

Honestly I wish the US had splits like that.  Usually it's only won by or in some cases a coue people.  No need to have someone win $billion all on theor own.  20 people winning $50million each still changes theor lives and touches more people.  Was always supportive of more winners. 

[Lanatsa]

Honestly I wish the US had splits like that.  Usually it's only won by or in some cases a coue people.  No need to have someone win $billion all on theor own.  20 people winning $50million each still changes theor lives and touches more people.  Was always supportive of more winners. 

Thats personal preference and liking but we do know on how lottery works which would really be needing that extreme luck for you to hit up and lets just accept if there are sole winners of the said jackpot.

We cant really hold off on what would gonna happen but on this one then it is truly that mind boggling or having questions on what the heck do happen on why there are lots of winners

considering that number combinations cant really be that possible on having those hundreds of bettors hitting on the same combination.I do agree that this might be rigged.

[Yogee]

What's with the eye roll? Looks like you are leaning towards manipulation with that kind of reaction.

The thing is that it's hard to prove something went wrong by just crunching the numbers that are available. I mean being divisible by 9 is not enough evidence. I bet out of millions buying tickets that there are also hundreds using numbers divisible by five or four.

For me who lives in the same country where this happened, I think the eye roll which signifies manipulation of the lottery draw is appropriate. Other than the lottery numbers drawn which are divisible by 9, the amount of winners is also suspicious as that amount is nearly impossible to happen. You can try to check all supporting computations on how much this is impossible to happen from all the probabilities and statics majors.

Sure you can play with all the numbers you want but you still cannot rule out the possibility that few individuals pick numbers "playfully". How many tickets were bought for that draw? I bet it's in millions.

Also, Even the government is eyeing to check on the legitimacy of the result.

Are you referring to the Senate investigation that was posted in the first page? I highly doubt their "expertise" when it comes to finding out any manipulation in this. They are probably just riding the hype and finish the "checking" without any real result.

[coin-investor]

Anyway, let's hope that a substantial chunk of ticket revenue goes towards charity causes as well.

The Philippine National Lottery is being run by PCSO and it's a government agency and a big chunk o the profit goes to charity

The PCSO is mandated to set aside 30 percent of its revenue for charity, 55 percent for prizes, and 15 percent for its operation. All balances of any funds in the PCSO will form part of the charity fund.

it sustains the poor sectors and those who need financial and medical needs, majority of the people support the lottery because one time or many times their relatives or themselves have asked for help from this agency, I would never want this lottery stop, but they should get rid of corruptions if there's any.

[ultrloa]

To difficult to understand why such thing happen while in the odds to win in lottery is so low and there's more higher chance that we get hit by lightning than winning the jackpot. So I guess what's happening there is pure manipulation and there's someone doing some nasty action there.

Government should do investigation towards that incident since most likely having 433 winners is something impossible to happen.

[harizen]

I don't mind if that lucky 9 hits the winning jackpot combination. Even though it's almost close to impossible that the result was skip counting by 9, we can't do anything if that really the result. What I was surprised by is the number of jackpot winners which really makes me think that there's a fraud there.

Maybe they want to split that big prize for more in favor of them but in reality, there might be only 1-2 winners.

It's even more difficult to have up to 2 winners for every jackpot and here, a whooping 433 winners.