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[dkbit98]

Added Bitkey to the website. Still lots of questions about the wallet, so the info is not complete. Waiting to get more info about the wallet to include on the site.

Wait a minute... did they changed the name again?!
First I thought this was some new wallet I never heard before but than I saw familiar shape of ex-Square aka ex-Block wallet.
I honestly wouldn't call this a real hardware wallet at all, based on information I know about it, but let's wait and see what happens when they release it officially.

PS
I am never going to apply for this  beta 

[Pmalek]

I see, several wallets (sledger included) don't accept Bitcoin payments and they expect people to purchase them for storing BTC  

Ledger doesn't accept Bitcoin directly, but you can pay with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies using the crypto payment processor BitPay. Anyone interested in doing that should know that BitPay requires KYC to use their services, so there are better alternatives. Check out Do Hardware wallet Manufacturers Ship to PO Boxes or Not for more info.

[Pmalek]

I don't see any way to pay with crypto on Ledger official website. Just credit card, Paypal o Google Pay

It's there. Go to the shop, add one of their hardware wallets to your cart, and start the purchase process. You can enter fake data just to proceed through the customer info and shipping forms. Once you get to the payments page you will see this:



It seems that they have actually added crypto.com pay in addition to BitPay, which was there before.

[RickDeckard]

It seems that they have actually added crypto.com pay in addition to BitPay, which was there before.

Indeed, they seem to have added that payment option around 08/2020[1]. Do note that both of them aren't very private considering that one is a centralized exchange and another is BitPay[2].
[1]https://www.ledger.com/ledger-integrates-cryptocom-pay
[2]https://debitpay.directory/anti-bitcoin/

[Pmalek]

It seems Ledger is not supporting crypto payments in certain countries. That's why I wasn't seeing those options. I had to try with US.

That might be a restriction of the crypto payment processor (crypto.com Pay and BitPay) and not Ledger.
The Crypto.com app, for instance, can't be used in a long list of countries and territories. BitPay also has several prohibited jurisdictions. See if your country is in the list of the sources I linked to.

[dkbit98]

I don't see any way to pay with crypto on Ledger official website. Just credit card, Paypal o Google Pay

They are using centralized third party payment processors Bitpay and Crypto.com, they are obviously restricting some countries and locations, and it's much better to switch to BTCPay Server..
I think this can easily be fixed with vpn or tor, but this could create some problems with delivery address location, and I wouldn't waste a single satoshi on ledger hardware wallets.

PS
I saw this new upcoming ledger special fed edition wallet somewhere... but no need to add it on your website/list

[dkbit98]

Some improvements to the website

Maybe you can think about adding one more thing called Hardware Wallet Compatibility and Security Rating.
I recently saw this introduced in cer.live website and I like the initial idea, but I don't like how they are doing it and this needs to be improved.
For hardware wallets this should mean how easy is to integrate and connect third party software wallets with hardware wallets.

If you examine cer.live website you will see they rated highest Trust wallet (for Bitcoin), Metamask (for Holdding and Security?!), ZenGo (for monile), etc.
Security rating for Electrum wallet is lowest 
https://cer.live/wallets

[Pmalek]

I don't like the idea of assigning a rating. All the wallets are different and there are users with different needs

I agree with you on that one. These comparison sites should, in my opinion, be about hard facts without personal opinions or anything subjective. Adding a rating system does the exact opposite. You are showing the world what you think is better based on criteria that changes from person to person.

A security-conscious individual could have positive experiences with hot wallets, while someone who has no idea what they are doing could lose their coin from a hardware wallet.

[taufik123]

Lots of new features and improvements on our website where we compare more than 30 different hardware wallets. thebitcoinhole.com
- New wallet details screen with detailed info, official youtube video previews, dropdown to compare the wallet against others, and much more.
- Now you can compare wallets 1 vs 1.
- Added links to Reddit and Telegram communities (when available) for each wallet.
- More helpful info about each important feature of the different hardware wallets.
- Data fixes and improvements

It seems that the Website is quite complete with some new features added. Especially by adding important features on each wallet device.
Sometimes some features are missed and not read. Marked with color is also very helpful

There is one feature that might be added, Maybe you can add some Hardware Wallet photos from different positions.
Usually on the official website, there are many photos and some provide 3D images.
It can help to see the design in detail and not just from the front with just one photo.

Add "Pictures" under the main photo to see more photos.
Or use different layouts according to your taste, sliders, pop-ups etc.

Like the example I made below


Or you can see https://www.gsmarena.com/ website as a reference.

[dkbit98]

Added to the website new info to see which hardware wallet is integrated with BlueWallet, Blockstream Green & Bitcoin Keeper.

How about adding new Keystone3 hardware wallet?
Waitlist is currently open and they will soon announce discounted price with more information.
If you have Coldcard Q1 and Bitkey on your list that are still not officially released, than I see no reason why Keystone3 should not be there.

[dkbit98]

- Added more info for Keystone 3 wallet

I see you added Keystone 3 and you wrote that battery for new model is not removable, so can you confirm this information?
It sucks they decided to go this route like most smartphones, since opening device will brake warranty and it could trigger their tampering detection protection and make it unusable.

- I created an official Bitcoin Talk user for The Bitcoin Hole: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3567186

What is the difference between The Bitcoin Hole and maxirosson members? Just Rebranding, or you are going to stop using this old account?

[dkbit98]

@maxirosson
You need to make one small update on TheBitcoinHole website for Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet, as they now switched to Open Source license, like I explained in one of my previous posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288971.msg62609304#msg62609304

We still didn't saw any confirmation from other websites like Wallet Scrutiny or Bitcoin Binary if code is reproducible or not, but they released source code yesterday, so I would give them some time to catch up.

[dkbit98]

Added sorting to our website. Now you can sort all the hardware wallets by Price, Year, Warranty, Weight and Screen Size.

Nice update.
I see in last few weeks many new similar websites starting to appear for hardware wallet comparison and I still like yours the best, but athena-alpha.com is doing a good job also.
One recent correction for you, Keystone 3 Pro is now open for orders and discounted price is $90 in next several days, but I don't see Keystone 3 regular version available for purchase.

[dkbit98]

Thanks for the correction.
I knew about athena-alpha.com. Which other similar website did you find?

No problem.
I didnt want to advertise any other websites in your topic but since you already asked... I saw one project posted recently in Project Development section, it's called crypto-hardware.com.
It has a different layout from thebitcoinhole.com website and they need to add a lot more wallets in their database, but maybe you find some inspiration there.
Healthy competition can be good.

[dkbit98]

New addition to the website: Cypherock X1: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/cypherock-x1

Nice one

One more suggestion, can you add information if code for Open Source hardware wallets can be verified and reproduced or not?
If this has been done by someone, for example bitcoinbinary.org or walletscrutiny.com, you can post a clickable link for that.
Another member has a good point that not everything that has Open Source label is really Open Source... we all remember ColdCard and Keystone was doing similar advertisement for their devices.  

[dkbit98]

I already have that. Under the firmware section, I have "Source-available", "Open Source" and "Reproducible Builds" rows.

I know about rows, but I was thinking about creating additional top Reproducible filter tab for fast access, like you have for Open Source, Secure Element, Air-Gapped, etc.
Ideally it would be great if I could select multiple filters at the same time, and have color changed when I click or unclick them.
I hope you understand what I wanted to say, I am a bit tired and I can't explain it better now.

[dkbit98]

Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.

It looks good, maybe a bit crowded but search option fixes that.
I just checked all hardware wallets that can be purchased with Bitcoin or LN, and I got only 15 from 40 devices, no wonder that ledger is not accepting BTC 
Imagine someone selling devices that should keep BTC safe in storage, but you won't accept that same BTC ... it just shows how much they support Bitcoin

[Pmalek]

I just checked all hardware wallets that can be purchased with Bitcoin or LN, and I got only 15 from 40 devices, no wonder that ledger is not accepting BTC 
Imagine someone selling devices that should keep BTC safe in storage, but you won't accept that same BTC ... it just shows how much they support Bitcoin

You know what they say, verify don't trust. You should have checked the information you found on that site and looked on Ledger's shop yourself.

Ledger doesn't accept crypto directly, meaning from your wallet to theirs, but does accept it through payment providers like Crypto.com Pay and Bitpay. The quality of these services is another topic of discussion.
If you use crypto.com Pay, you can pay with BTC, CRO, DAI, ETH, USDC, and USDT.
If you use Bitpay, the accepted coins include BTC, BCH, DOGE, LTC, XRP, ETH, etc...

[SFR10]

Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.

Great addition, but I noticed the size & materials filters didn't have the materials and dimensions options in them... I understand why you excluded the latter, but I think it'd be better if users could also tick the materials of their choice ^{[even if it means adding roughly 10 more options to that section]}.
BTW, do you have any plans to move discontinued hardware wallets to a different page ^{[there are two at the moment]}?

[Pmalek]

BTW, do you have any plans to move discontinued hardware wallets to a different page ^{[there are two at the moment]}?

Are you talking about the Keystone Essential and Pro models or some of the other hardware wallets in the collection? If you check the main list without any active filters, you will notice that these two HWs are positioned all the way to the right with a 'Discontinued' notification under their pictures. I think that's pretty clear for anyone looking at the page that they are no longer for sale.