[Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3

[bisdak40]

So this one ends up on no contest? So this ends up on having no match or record at all?
The match was of course recorded but it is on the expense of Casimero as he was now portrayed to be the bad guy who punched a boxer at the back of his head that leads to a no contest fight.

See it here: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/421916

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest".  

[Kelvinid]

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest". 

He does not look like a bad guy because fans are blaming Akaho for being an actor, besides, what is written in the link share was it was accidentally hit at the back of the head, which means not intentional. Casimero will eventually find a great opponent, someone that could fight with him toe to toe until the end.

[Shamm]

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest". 

He does not look like a bad guy because fans are blaming Akaho for being an actor, besides, what is written in the link share was it was accidentally hit at the back of the head, which means not intentional. Casimero will eventually find a great opponent, someone that could fight with him toe to toe until the end.

Yes you are right that mate and in the eyes of Fans of Akaho then casimero is a bad guy and we can not disagree with that because that is their point of view. But if we take or review the fight it we all know that is not intentionally but akaho is a good actor then the fight goes to not contest fight. And I think that it's better for casimero to find some good opponent that can fight him toe to toe and the last man standing is a winner.

[Japinat]

No Contest result for Casimero but for us, he is the winner if just Akaho will not acted strangely and continue to fight.

It is obvious that Akaho was hurt, it is just a matter of time on that round to putting Akaho on his knee but the referee to the rescue.  Another thing, if that was a true illegal blow, they could have made the ringside physician look at Akaho asap, but it took them several minutes to do so making me think that is indeed one of the plans of the officiating official to save Akaho when a thing like that happens. 

Let's not go in that discussion because if we say that the officiating officials are unfair and they favored Akaho, then we would've also said in general that Japanese officials in boxing organization are unprofessional. We know that they are not like that as they are the most professional people we know as it's on their culture already not to cheat or something like that. Let's just say that Akaho was the one who is unprofessional and scared to add defeats on his record that is why he decided to have that act that give embarrassment to the whole Japanese boxing community. I'd say that they aren't letting that one slide and will investigate about it.

Who is to blame then? I know it's not a Japanese trait but it's clear that those involved are doing shit on that match.

You can't blame others if they thought something bad about how the fight turned out.

Akaho is a disgrace, and so are the officials and referess there. They are putting a negative image on the whole Japanese community.

I go to that direction, Akaho's act and the officiating bodies who handle that fight is a disgrace to the entire Japanese community, I'm sure after this fight there would be reviews and corresponding actions to avoid things like this to happen, if Casimero won't get any change in that particular decision he might get a good fight after this incident.

He still has that caliber and a big threat to this division, with the hype happen to that last fight for sure he will gain additional attention
good still for him to bring another fight and maybe a good money fight.

Well, what can I say? Ryo Akaho really put a bad image to the entire boxing community of Japan and yes, I do agree, the boxing community might set him as an example so that there would be no other boxers who will try to pull this kind of stunt and in that way, the disgrace that Akaho did won't reflect much to the entire community.

About Casimero, people already know that he still have the traits to be the champion and can still give struggles to the existing champions. I do hope he can get another fight somewhere in the 1st quarter of 2023 because people and fans are unsatisfied with that fight.

[Lanatsa]

He may be a bad guy for some people, especially to the fans of Akaho but to most of us who are hardcore fans of boxing can appreciate what really has have happened and we can always review the video to see if Casimero really has hit Akaho at the back of his head. I just hope though that they will revisit the decision of the referee and do some necessary actions if it warrants some like declaring Casimero as the winner by TKO.

Have to lock the thread in the next few hours and as usual thanks to all of you who shared your ideas/speculations on this thread but unfortunately no one here makes some money with this fight as it was declared a "no contest". 

He does not look like a bad guy because fans are blaming Akaho for being an actor, besides, what is written in the link share was it was accidentally hit at the back of the head, which means not intentional. Casimero will eventually find a great opponent, someone that could fight with him toe to toe until the end.

Yes you are right that mate and in the eyes of Fans of Akaho then casimero is a bad guy and we can not disagree with that because that is their point of view. But if we take or review the fight it we all know that is not intentionally but akaho is a good actor then the fight goes to not contest fight. And I think that it's better for casimero to find some good opponent that can fight him toe to toe and the last man standing is a winner.

We do able to see those solid punches made by Casimero which do really hurt up Akaho which he had been pushed through in the ropes and it was just that timing that he had made out that hit on the back of the head but if it was really that hurting then he had made out that reaction on point and not on few seconds and trying out to pause the game or fight and making out some complaints.

Its totally unprofessional and just like the rest been saying that he's a good actor.He did make that fight to have "no contest".I wont be surprised that Akaho fans would
really be that seeing Casimero as the bad guy but not all totally because we arent blind on what actually happened during that fight.

[Yaunfitda]

And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

[Baofeng]

And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

I don't think there are conspiracies around like that they don't want Casimero to win or maybe sign a new contract with a promoter or something. Saw this on some Youtube, so I doubt that this is the case here.

It was just Akaho who acted alone for me, unless this conspiracies are proven.

We all see what happen, Casimero was about to give him the worst beating of his boxing career and he just says "no mas" to John Riel.

[ultrloa]

And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

I don't think there are conspiracies around like that they don't want Casimero to win or maybe sign a new contract with a promoter or something. Saw this on some Youtube, so I doubt that this is the case here.

It was just Akaho who acted alone for me, unless this conspiracies are proven.

We all see what happen, Casimero was about to give him the worst beating of his boxing career and he just says "no mas" to John Riel.

Actually that's what I think in the first impression after how the fight ended and how the referee act towards the match. Casimero's career has been doomed by controversy created by his past management so maybe there's something nasty manipulation happening here. But we don't have evidence to prove that such thing happening but let see the development of Casimero's career if he can get big fight after this.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.

Casimero is really dominating, in 2 rounds we can see Casimero landed clean and strong punch to Akaho's face, it's just unfortunate that Casimero accidentally punch back of Akaho's head, I think it's not that strong too. Actually the fight can be continued even though Casimero get reduction on his point, but I'm pretty sure Casimero will win via Knock Out before sixth round. There's many fights where someone punch their opponent back for one time, but the fight isn't cancelled.

This is really weird, very strange, in boxing these things shouldn't happen, sometimes a blow like that is something that normally a boxer wouldn't stop, I don't know if it's because Akaho felt lost and wanted to do things like that, but that He speaks very badly of him, now what will happen? Will he have to wait for the most convenient result of Inoue's fight? What can benefit Casimero at this time? That is why Casimero must learn to shut his mouth, because sometimes he must swallow his words, now if Inoue beats Butler he may want or not want to fight Casimero, it is something that we are not completely sure of.

[Kelvinid]

Good thing he realized that he cannot handle powerful punches anymore, but Donaire is always better than him because although it was clear that he can't carry the punches of Inoue, but still he choose to continue, this guy (AKaho) choose to make excuses and the result was in his favor.

Casimero is really dominating, in 2 rounds we can see Casimero landed clean and strong punch to Akaho's face, it's just unfortunate that Casimero accidentally punch back of Akaho's head, I think it's not that strong too. Actually the fight can be continued even though Casimero get reduction on his point, but I'm pretty sure Casimero will win via Knock Out before sixth round. There's many fights where someone punch their opponent back for one time, but the fight isn't cancelled.

This is really weird, very strange, in boxing these things shouldn't happen, sometimes a blow like that is something that normally a boxer wouldn't stop, I don't know if it's because Akaho felt lost and wanted to do things like that, but that He speaks very badly of him, now what will happen? Will he have to wait for the most convenient result of Inoue's fight? What can benefit Casimero at this time? That is why Casimero must learn to shut his mouth, because sometimes he must swallow his words, now if Inoue beats Butler he may want or not want to fight Casimero, it is something that we are not completely sure of.

Whatever Akaho said, it cannot convince the boxing community that it was an intentional hit in the back of his head. It was very clear that he was already struggling in accepting the punches of Casimero, in the 2nd round, we saw a mismatch fight where Akaho trying to be aggressive but Casimero is well prepared with his heavy counter punches.

[Oasisman]

That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.

[Natalim]

That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.

I don't think it's a smart move, if his intention was to save himself from losing the fight, then I guess it's called cheating, and you can see how people react, instead of favorite Akaho, they are calling him the best actor in a negative way. This is boxing, the purpose of the fight was to entertain us, but are we entertained?

[Shamm]

That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.

As we can see the face of akaho it already speaks that casimero broke his face with a clean punch. And then the referee told that incident then akaho    use that to make the fight Into No contest fight. But for me it's not a good for him as we all know that once a boxer he must fight until he can and not to surrender. But I know that akaho did that it because he can't fight casimero anymore because of the punches by casimero.

[Dave1]

And I heard that there are many conspiracies behind this fight, that they don't want Casimero to win etc. And then the South Korean board will review and make an overturn of the decision to NC to a win by Casimero, but everything is just a theory.

But in any case it was really on the side of Akaho here, just for the record though, Akaho is a Japanese and this fight is in South Korea. I initially thought as well that the fight is made in Japan, Akaho's hometown, but I'm wrong because it is not. Akaho's manager is a South Korean and that's why the fight is held there.

I don't think there are conspiracies around like that they don't want Casimero to win or maybe sign a new contract with a promoter or something. Saw this on some Youtube, so I doubt that this is the case here.

It was just Akaho who acted alone for me, unless this conspiracies are proven.

We all see what happen, Casimero was about to give him the worst beating of his boxing career and he just says "no mas" to John Riel.

Actually that's what I think in the first impression after how the fight ended and how the referee act towards the match. Casimero's career has been doomed by controversy created by his past management so maybe there's something nasty manipulation happening here. But we don't have evidence to prove that such thing happening but let see the development of Casimero's career if he can get big fight after this.

Yes, speculation that his previous promoter MP, has something to do with it, but I highly doubt that they will influence or can influence the outcome, that's just hearsay or yeah just pure talk without any basis. They just want to make noises though because of how the fight ended.

For sure Casimero and his camp has gotten over the situation by now because I see him in Thailand already trying to unwind before maybe going home to his home country of Philippines.

[Fredomago]

That was actually a smart move from Akaho, but yeah he's definitely got hurt by the flurry of strong punches coming from Casimero that rocks Akaho prior to that behind the head punch.
I can't say anything bad about Akaho as we really don't know if how hurt he was though those punches did not hit him directly at the back of his head, but those would definitely hurt. Nevertheless, he used that as an excuse to force a no contest, but he really got hurt with those clean punches.

As we can see the face of akaho it already speaks that casimero broke his face with a clean punch. And then the referee told that incident then akaho    use that to make the fight Into No contest fight. But for me it's not a good for him as we all know that once a boxer he must fight until he can and not to surrender. But I know that akaho did that it because he can't fight casimero anymore because of the punches by casimero.

He received a lot of criticism and we all know what happened, that excuse only to justify that he can't handle Casimero's solid punches; he managed to take down Casimero, and he thinks that he will be able to win this match, but when Casimero start being aggressive, he feels what Casimero can do to him, nothing but to find ways to avoid being knock down in front of his fans/fellowmen.

But unfortunately, knowing how Japanese fighter accept their fate, he show's the culture differently. Sad but it's true, he act like a coward in front of the Japanese viewers.

[bisdak40]

Actually that's what I think in the first impression after how the fight ended and how the referee act towards the match. Casimero's career has been doomed by controversy created by his past management so maybe there's something nasty manipulation happening here. But we don't have evidence to prove that such thing happening but let see the development of Casimero's career if he can get big fight after this.

Speaking of future fights, there are already offers from other promoters for Casimero to fight as per his cutman Stephen Lunas. They still have to wait for the outcome of the review if the result of the fight against Akaho will be overturned and declare Casimero as the winner then the team will still be under the Treasure Boxing Promotion but if the decision stays then they will look for other promoters.

Bottomline, Casimero will get big fights against big names in this division in the near future.