Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10

[AmoreJaz]

We can always find a way to watch this fight without paying, so don't bother.  

There's a lack of interest in this fight compared to the Spence match up, it's understandable he should fight Ennis if he wants more money and legacy but he choose the safest route only Crawford's die-hard fans and those who can afford will buy tickets for a live fight, I prefer to see the highlights because we all know who's gonna win in this fight, Avanesyan is good but he is not on Crawford's level.

as there are free streaming now these days, i don't think this fight will attract good gate collection. so if this is official already, it means the two camps, crawford and spence jr didn't reach to certain agreements. now, this may be like mayweather-pacquiao in the making...

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[chaser15]

as there are free streaming now these days, i don't think this fight will attract good gate collection. so if this is official already, it means the two camps, crawford and spence jr didn't reach to certain agreements.

It was already clear I think several weeks ago that Spence vs Crawford fight won't happen this year.

The reason is not disclosed though but it has something to do with the transparency of the terms. Either way, we have to move on now as if that won't happen this year, still, there's a possibility to negotiate that fight.

If upset happened here against David Ananesyan then it's clear that he might can't beat Spence.

[bbc.reporter]

This is very disappointing and not only because Spence vs. Crawford will not happen. It is very disappointing that Crawford is not fighting someone who is ranked higher than Avanesyan like Boots Ennis or Vergil Ortiz. This is only another boxing event that is promoted very much similar to ICO scamcoins.

Haha, you really compared this to scamcoins? Well, I understand the disappointment mate, but we have no choice, at least we have one that no fight at all this year. I'm expecting an easy win by Crawford here, hopefully another KO so it will be entertaining to watch.

Paying to watch this fight will certainly be a waste of money.

We can always find a way to watch this fight without paying, so don't bother.  

Yes, the way they will promote this, it will certainly be similar to those ICO scamcoins. The part of this where it becomes very head shaking is many people will pay for this low quality boxing.

I will certainly not bother watching this even if this is free hhehehehe.

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

[coin-investor]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

[Jating]

At least Terence Crawford won't be vacant this year regardless of who's the opponent.

Well, that's what he wanted to be this year, stay busy, and so wanted to fight in November with Spence. But it's obvious that the fight is not pushing, he chooses a boxer that his not known in the US soil but has some solid power.

Since the fight against Spence is not gonna happen this year, how about some warm-ups before it might happen next year.

Just enjoy the fight guys without being bitter if it's a cherry-pick or not. It's just clear that before moving up, he is really eager to fight Spence no matter what.

Still hoping that the fight is going for next year.And it should be in 147 lbs because they have all the belts here.

Yeah, hopefully David Avanesyan will show up something in this fight and at least give Crawford a tough fight or even see if he can caught him up with his power and see how Crawford will react and adjust.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

So the question is who is stalling their biggest fight in 147 lbs? Spence or Crawford. Of course we wanted to see this boxers in the ring together, but not for this year, Crawford decided to go and fight a boxer with pure power.

It is hard to tell who speak the truth because when Team Crawford was asked about that, they say that it was the team of Spence who avoid the fight while if we asked Team Spence, they say it was Crawford who avoided them lol.

I have recently read an article and it seems to me that Errol Spence might be the one delaying/avoiding this biggest fight in the 147lbs to happen because he might be having some problems in this weight category for now.

I got to talk to my manager but I already told them I'm at this weight too long. I might be moving up I don't know. I might be moving up,” said Spence.

I also have the same conclusion that the cap of Errol Spence is delaying the fight with him. He just had one of his biggest wins against Ugas and it was a war, so not sure how he can't make 147 lbs. I think he can still can and have like 2 fights in this weight category before moving and chase Charlo.

But for me, he seems to be stalling the fight and could have demanded more from Crawford. And that is why the fight and not going to happen as scheduled this November. And so Crawford moving on his with plans to have a least 1 fight before the end of the year.

[mirakal]

When we thought that Crawford has already move out of the shadow of Top Rank because his critics felt that he is cherry picking opponents for him, now he decided to go and fight a unknown?

Nothing against Avanesyan, but Crawford, his last fight is against Porter, and it seems that this is a big let down for his fans as if instead of levelling up, he chooses to go down one level down.

Couldn't really blame Crawford, the man waited so long for at least a year as I remembered just for the undisputed fight and then somewhere in June they are having some discussion with Spence's camp but ended in separate ways because both camp didn't agreed on something. He was promised a fight, even leave Bob Arum just to make the fight possible but now he was all alone hanging.

I know there's a lot of expectation for Bud's next opponent, we thought it will be Spence but didn't happen, and then we also thought it would be Charlo in super welter but Charlo doesn't want to give Crawford a chance because he didn't go through the ranks. That is why now we have this David Avanesyan as a supposed tune-up fight to keep Bud in shape.

[robelneo]

If upset happened here against David Ananesyan then it's clear that he might can't beat Spence.

If ever there is an upset that upset will be the upset of the year and people will make it a reference for an opportunity missed by Crawford, and he cannot talk of fighting Spence anymore, without Spence giving all the terms of the fight, I don't think it's a risky fight for Crawford but upsets do happen if the underdog is a power puncher, I know who will dominate the fight but will still watch it for free for an upset if there is one which I think is unlikely.

[Baofeng]

When we thought that Crawford has already move out of the shadow of Top Rank because his critics felt that he is cherry picking opponents for him, now he decided to go and fight a unknown?

Nothing against Avanesyan, but Crawford, his last fight is against Porter, and it seems that this is a big let down for his fans as if instead of levelling up, he chooses to go down one level down.

Couldn't really blame Crawford, the man waited so long for at least a year as I remembered just for the undisputed fight and then somewhere in June they are having some discussion with Spence's camp but ended in separate ways because both camp didn't agreed on something. He was promised a fight, even leave Bob Arum just to make the fight possible but now he was all alone hanging.

I know there's a lot of expectation for Bud's next opponent, we thought it will be Spence but didn't happen, and then we also thought it would be Charlo in super welter but Charlo doesn't want to give Crawford a chance because he didn't go through the ranks. That is why now we have this David Avanesyan as a supposed tune-up fight to keep Bud in shape.

And I think David is the back up fight plan of Crawford if the fight fell through with Spence. Yes, I know that this opponent is not what we expect of him, but perhaps its the easiest to make instead of looking for good fighters in this division at they will have to go to another round of negotiations and there are chances that it might not happen again.

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

[coin-investor]

And I think David is the back up fight plan of Crawford if the fight fell through with Spence. Yes, I know that this opponent is not what we expect of him, but perhaps its the easiest to make instead of looking for good fighters in this division at they will have to go to another round of negotiations and there are chances that it might not happen again.

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

It caught us all by surprise I have this feeling that Crawford is secretly negotiating for this match while the Spence fight deal is still ongoing, he just knew that the fight will Spence will not push through, and he is in a hurry to get back in the ring and Avanesyan is a perfect choice, not the boxing community wanted but what Crawford need to get himself in shape a boxer cannot be out of the ring for a long time, it will have a lasting effect and this could be a preparation for their eventual meet up next year.

[goinmerry]

It caught us all by surprise I have this feeling that Crawford is secretly negotiating for this match while the Spence fight deal is still ongoing, he just knew that the fight will Spence will not push through, and he is in a hurry to get back in the ring and Avanesyan is a perfect choice, not the boxing community wanted but what Crawford need to get himself in shape a boxer cannot be out of the ring for a long time, it will have a lasting effect and this could be a preparation for their eventual meet up next year.

That was unprofessional if Crawford is secretly negotiating with this match. Because of what you said, we can now consider that he also plays a big role in why that fight against Spence didn't happen. I think Crawford waited once the negotiation with Spence really failed before accepting another fight.

Seems cherry-picked for him but I hope Avanesyan can give trouble to Crawford to somehow not let this fight be an easy landslide win for Crawford.

[chaser15]

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom.

No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan.

This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible.

[Vaculin]

Bottomline, no matter how powerful Avenesyan is, he is not on the level of Crawford and for me this is just "to keep busy" fight for Crawford while ironing things out for the Spence fight next year but nevertheless it is a cherry-picked opponent.

I believe its also a cherry-picked fight for an eventual meeting with Spence next year, Crawford has been out of the ring for a long time he needs some challenge to avoid ring rust, but I read that Spence is moving up because he's been in this weight for so many years, both fighters loss on this missed opportunity, there's been a lot of great fights this year against bitter rivals but unfortunately, both camps cannot agree to agree, it seems they don't want to fight maybe not this year.

Don't really know the real score and reason why their undisputed fight that is already dubbed as a fight of the decade didn't materialized but it seems to me that Spence's really ducking for this fight as he know that Crawford is really hard to crack. IMO, he is not that ready yet to face Bud and not ready to risk his belt, they might deny it but I'm not going to believe it as well as the people who waited their fight after all the hype. Anyway, this is good than nothing because Bud really need someone to fight to keep him fit for his upcoming fights. We may or may not see the undisputed fight, so there's no reason for us to wait.

[Saisher]

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom.

No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan.

This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible.

Avanesyan is a welterweight champion in Europe he was beaten by Kavaliauskas by a knockout and Kavaliauskas was knocked out by Crawford so based on this comparison Avanesyan is a cherry-picked fight for Crawford, obviously, Crawford wants to protect his title and his records so he will have a good chance in the table in case talks between him and Spence continue, there are a lot of good boxers in the welterweight that can give him a real challenge and money but he opted for an unpopular choice like Avanesyan.

[freedomgo]

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom.

No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan.

This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible.

Well, you're right about that because this Avanesyan does have a decent record for starters and seeing his last 5 matches makes me think that this is indeed what Crawford needed to keep him in shape while waiting for Spence because I know that this Avanesyan will give everything he got as Crawford might be his key in the international boxing world. That said, I bet this will be a good fight that I wouldn't want to miss.

I've compared their advantages; Crawford got the reach advantage as well as the experience and ring IQ, about this Avanesyan, not yet sure what he got but I guess we will see it this coming December.

[yazher]

Since to fight a strong opponent will take longer than usual just to sign a contract, this one is not that bad because after all they might not looking to gather multi million dollars here, rather it's just for Crawford to keep him in shape before he finds a worthy opponent like Spence or other world champions. Crawford will win this fight easily because this opponent, is not in his rank in terms of strength and speed.

[mirakal]

When we thought that Crawford has already move out of the shadow of Top Rank because his critics felt that he is cherry picking opponents for him, now he decided to go and fight a unknown?

Nothing against Avanesyan, but Crawford, his last fight is against Porter, and it seems that this is a big let down for his fans as if instead of levelling up, he chooses to go down one level down.

Couldn't really blame Crawford, the man waited so long for at least a year as I remembered just for the undisputed fight and then somewhere in June they are having some discussion with Spence's camp but ended in separate ways because both camp didn't agreed on something. He was promised a fight, even leave Bob Arum just to make the fight possible but now he was all alone hanging.

I know there's a lot of expectation for Bud's next opponent, we thought it will be Spence but didn't happen, and then we also thought it would be Charlo in super welter but Charlo doesn't want to give Crawford a chance because he didn't go through the ranks. That is why now we have this David Avanesyan as a supposed tune-up fight to keep Bud in shape.

And I think David is the back up fight plan of Crawford if the fight fell through with Spence. Yes, I know that this opponent is not what we expect of him, but perhaps its the easiest to make instead of looking for good fighters in this division at they will have to go to another round of negotiations and there are chances that it might not happen again.

So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.

Still this is much better rather than we get nothing from waiting Crawford for the whole year of 2022, surely we didn't expected this situation because we all expected an undisputed fight and personally, I didn't expected that he will pick this boxer. Anyway, as I said, it is still better than nothing.

I dug David's record to see what he is made of, he does have a good record and surely he have nothing to lose here compared to Crawford that is still undefeated until now. Some says what if Bud will be defeated here, I say that might be almost impossible to happen.

[aioc]

I just saw this on my feed Crawford has been accused of ducking three boxers, we cannot blame him he still hoping for a title unification for Spence and he doesn't want to risk his title by fighting Ennis or Ortiz, Avanesyan is a sure bet that he will retain the title, Crawford could be in the twilight of his career so he is picking his opponents now, Ortiz Jr. should be his mandatory opponent but he opted for a lesser challenger in Avanesyan.

[TravelMug]

Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.

I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.

I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.

He has been talking about Ennis if I'm not mistaken, but maybe he doesn't want to give him the fight right now.

So he took an easy route to fight David Avanesyan and see if he can persuade again Spence to have a fight for next year. If not, then maybe he will have to look at this two in the future or maybe move to 154 lbs and not give them the chance to beat him. I'm not saying that Crawford is afraid of the two, but career wise if he wanted to cement his legacy, he could be moving up next to get another belt.