A disheartening true life winning story

[Saisher]

This is crazy is not possible and if this is possible then any lottery company can just refuse to pay those who won millions because of a database error, once the result shows up its final, any court will even penalize any lottery company that will do this its fraud and it will lose the confidence of the betting public, so far OP did not provide a link or screenshot of the story, so we'll know the whole story and what really happen.

[Queentoshi]

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Which cheating are you referencing? The cheating from the gambling site or the cheating from individuals who play on those gambling sites? for both, stricter rules should be made and the penalty for defaulters be clearly mentioned to discourage gambling sites that take advantage of customers and look for a reason to cheat them, and individuals who take advantage of gambling sites somehow by cheating. There should also be a strong enforcement of penalty for defaulters.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe that person can win the case but I don't think it will be easy because it involves a lot of money to pay for the trial or something. But I don't know. I've never experienced anything like him so I'm not sure what will happen next.

Or maybe the casino doesn't have that much money so they refuse to pay the guy. But if so, the casinos should have thought about it before they launched that lottery program. And it's only natural that he refuses the payout from the casino because the amount is not as much as he won. But, if he could act wisely, he should have just accepted the winnings and asked the casino to explain what happened. And if the casino doesn't have enough balance to pay the winner, they have to be responsible for paying it.

[molsewid]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

I think , he will gonna win this case. The company still make a negotiations, the higher the govt agency he go the money they offer gets higher as well, if they really think that his data is being wiped or they think that they already remove all the evidences that the man really won the jackpot price then why do they still offer such amount and gets higher everytime he complain?

[Mame89]

This is crazy is not possible and if this is possible then any lottery company can just refuse to pay those who won millions because of a database error, once the result shows up its final, any court will even penalize any lottery company that will do this its fraud and it will lose the confidence of the betting public, so far OP did not provide a link or screenshot of the story, so we'll know the whole story and what really happen.

if it's a system error it's not a reason not to give gifts to members. I don't think the lottery wants to pay big against winnings of up to million. on the other hand maybe those who own the casino don't match the money they have now that makes an excuse. If this appeal is going to be difficult, it will also require a lot of money. I've never experienced anything like this either

[virasisog]

This is crazy is not possible and if this is possible then any lottery company can just refuse to pay those who won millions because of a database error, once the result shows up its final, any court will even penalize any lottery company that will do this its fraud and it will lose the confidence of the betting public, so far OP did not provide a link or screenshot of the story, so we'll know the whole story and what really happens.

This is unfair to the bettor and if the guy who won would win the case, the casino will surely lose its credibility and will have its reputation ruined. That kind of casino should be avoided because the worst cases might happen in the future. They might be having a hard time paying that huge sum of winning but they should not lie about it or even accuse it of an error. The guy deserves justice so if proven guilty, the casino should also pay all the damages and expenses that the guy spent.

[rahmad2nd]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?

I do not know in which country this case occurred, so it is difficult for me to analyze this case. we don't get much from the information you share, there is no link as a clear, accurate and definite reference source. so, we can only assume unilaterally from the information you convey.

however, it becomes important for you at least to choose a gambling platforms that has a reputation that is credible, trustworthy, fair and transparent. so you can make sure cases like this happen to you of course.
In this case, if there was some kind of conspiracy from the start that he claimed the lottery, then the person you spoke of in this case should have won the case in court. interestingly, if he were betting on a legal platforms, things like this wouldn't have happened. So I think it's important for you to choose on platforms that really have a really good reputation.

[cabron]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?

I do not know in which country this case occurred, so it is difficult for me to analyze this case. we don't get much from the information you share, there is no link as a clear, accurate and definite reference source. so, we can only assume unilaterally from the information you convey.

however, it becomes important for you at least to choose a gambling platforms that has a reputation that is credible, trustworthy, fair and transparent. so you can make sure cases like this happen to you of course.
In this case, if there was some kind of conspiracy from the start that he claimed the lottery, then the person you spoke of in this case should have won the case in court. interestingly, if he were betting on a legal platforms, things like this wouldn't have happened. So I think it's important for you to choose on platforms that really have a really good reputation.

This is probably a local lottery. Tried to search it too but there is no article about it.
If the lottery company offered him $23,000 and then the National Gambling Board offered again for $29,000 then there must be truth to him winning the lottery  but the two are just in cahoots not paying him. I guess he can win the case since he can provide the details of his lottery ticket.

National Gambling Board seem to have more connection to a corrupt justice system. I would probably negotiate to at least 60/40 or something if I am in his shoe. Get more evidence from this deal. 

[YOSHIE]

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

yes, this is the right step taken by the lottery winner, there is no other way but to report to the relevant parties.

Can this guy win the case?

Cases like that, as far as I know, depend on the rules that have been set by the country, regarding gambling and lotteries.
• Countries that legalize lottery gambling sites, those who are cheated will win in this case, provided they have valid evidence, if the lottery agent is not willing to pay for the user's winnings.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

A lot, that often happens in the type of lottery gambling, what's more, users win a lot, in some cases I have seen agents run away, without paying the winnings.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

It is common knowledge, gambling parties do things like that, aka deceive users.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Nothing, except: placing a bet on a responsible and reputable lottery gambling site.

[gunhell16]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Based on your story, it is obvious that the man who won the Lottery will win. Why did I say? because if what the winner says is not true, why did the company offer the bettor 23k$ and the second attempt was 29900$? they showed and proved that the man won. The only reason they say this is that there was an erasure in the database or a technical error. In short, what they said is a false statement.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

Maybe, there are gambling owners who do exactly that. If they don't expect someone to suddenly win a large amount of money, they have control over whether they will pay or not, because if they don't want to pay because of the large amount, they can the gambler's account is unopposed, and no matter what their support report is, they will ignore it, but if there is strong evidence and their gambling business will be compromised, they will settle the complainant.

But if the cryptocurrency gambling platform is legit like Stakes, Duelbits, Trustdice, Blackjack, Rollbit, owl, and others, I don't think they are the kind of gambling company that will just create an alibi so that their players don't get the prize.

[rhomelmabini]

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

* If it's still on, then, the possibility will always be there for the guy to win the case and I'm rooting that he can win it.
* I can't recall such.
* They're like certain that no one will file a case on them or that they think it will just a waste of time for the complainant if they do.
* I don't think that will be easy nor will be completely out of the picture in the industry, it may be done within a short period of time but in the future something will happen again.

[noormcs5]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

Who is responsible of any technical error? For sure, the gambler cannot be deprived of the payment because of any technical error because it is the responsibility of the gambling house to ensure backups are in place in case any technical error occurs. Ideally the gambing house shoud pay him the full amount which he had won.

However, there could be a situation that gambling casino is using the technical error as an excuse to not give payment to the customer. In such a case, gambling house will not pay and i am not sure what else you can do if they refuses to pay you ?

[coin-investor]

He can charge the company in court for additional compensation, but there's no way he can be deprived of his winning because of technical error it's the obligation of the lottery company to pay their winners no one will trust and bet on their casino if their alibi is there is a technical error and database was deleted, so far should show us if this story is really true or just a made up story because it sounds unbelivable.

[Doan9269]

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

WTF! could this be true? such casino need to be sued to face the court of law, such are the type with bad reputation, but i think the gambker could go as far to any length with them as long as he still have the stake slip together with him, or maybe he should try contact the gambling real physical head office location, it could have been that the branch he went are the ones trying to play smart on him to take his winnings.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

Good moves, there's positive indications that he will winnthe case since we've seen the two moves at first, they wanted to eat up his winnings and have it to themselves, sometimes I just wonder the number of gamblers patronizing casinos each day with the amount of losses they make to those casinos, it's actually a huge amount each day because you rarely see a gambler making win, it happens but occasional.

[o48o]

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Can this guy win the case?

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Well link to the source of the story would help for starters. You talk about USD conversion and we don't even know which casino was it or even the country this took in place, or if he even was a citizen of this country. Different countries have different resources to handle something that happens overseas.

[crwth]

That lottery company shouldn't be trusted anymore, and it wouldn't be of any help to anyone if they cannot admit and be responsible for the actions that they are doing. Imagine being offered money if it was a technical error or something. It should've been fair and square. That lottery company might have shady owners, and they want as much as possible to have no winners of that kind. They know it's a substantial amount of money to be paid off.

I do hope that the guy will win that case. It's unfair for the gambler since his luck is included. I'm not that lucky to experience that kind of thing. If we're talking about cryptocurrencies and you play into a reputable one, I think you would have no problem cashing it out.

[gantez]

Or maybe the casino doesn't have that much money so they refuse to pay the guy. But if so, the casinos should have thought about it before they launched that lottery program.

It may be the case that the casino doesn't want to lose the betting money that is also huge and they decide to stake it not expecting the bettor to win it. It is a hard trick of the game of chance, the casino also took a bet on that he can lose and all the betting money is turning to theirs but now unfortunately is not that way and they have to make payment to the bettor is simple.

[Jemzx00]

Can this guy win the case?

Highly likely, but it still depends on his country's court and how they will be able to subdue the case.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

On an online casino, Yes. On a physical or offline casino, No.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winnings?

Because life is unfair and there will always be people who will avoid things such as losing money and cheat someone below them.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Unfortunately, for me, I don't think that there will be a permanent solution to such a problem as people will always try to cheat someone else especially for money.

[Cookdata]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

You should have backed up your information with a source, but nevertheless, this is a big fraud.

What were the comments of the National Gambling board? Why are they taking sides with the gambling company in return to pay the player sum of $29k instead of $169k. This is not like a mistake from the player, it is an error from the gambling company and as long as there are no terms that state otherwise, the gambling company must pay the player his full payment.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

I am confident that even with the error they are using as an excuse to make the full payments, they don't have the intention to pay the player. If the player stands his ground to the end, the lawyer will get to the root of the case and will definitely get his money.
Some gambling companies have a way they cheat players and this is just one of them, there are other ones that even lock up accounts for unknown or genuine reasons to get ahead of players, the solution lies ahead of regulators and the licencing agency.

[Hispo]

Yes, very outrageous how this lottery is trying to steal this guy in broad light even by trying to erase all kinds of evidence.
I would die of an anger episode if this happened to me, to be honest. 

Can this guy win the case?

I dont know the full context of this case, I would say it would depends whether this lottery has "friends" and collaborators in the government, they could even try to bribe a judge for 30k$ to stop this case, in order not to give the money this guy deserves. So It would depend whether on how corrupt this country is and the connections of the lottery.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

Never

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

Because they want to earn money by having a lottery but likely they do not have the liquidity to pay this big win or something similar.
it is quite ironic if you ask me, in general, when someone gets a big win in a lottery, legit lotteries take advantage of the situation to advertise the fact they actually pay their winners, giving a giant check and having a little party, ect, to make more people bet. This leads me to believe this lottery is far from being legit.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Decentralized contracts in some reputable blockchain or the lotteries could be forced by law to have their prizes in cash held by a third party, possibly a bank, so they cannot withdraw it or hide it in case there is a big winner; not the best solution but it would work for those lotteries unwilling to try blockchain technology.