A lottery's defense to not paying a huge winning.

[YOSHIE]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

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[Vaculin]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

Good point, the bettor can't chase the ones who operates illegally because the government don't know who to chase and even if the bettor files a case to a certain person who operates it, it will still backfire at him as it's his risk why he did bet to an illegal lottery despite knowing the fact. But if it's a legal lottery, the bettor have every right to claim whatever amount he is entitled once he can prove that he won the lottery. The lottery's excuse is too shallow, I doubt that there will be a courthouse that will save them.

[xSkylarx]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

But mostly this kind of case is illegal and for sure what you've expected on this?  If legal as long as you have the winning ticket then the case will end, and you'll be sure that you can get the money but if it is illegal it is more likely the lottery will close and not open or they will keep blind that you didn't win even if you have that ticket. I heard this rumours around our neighbourhood when I was a child that a lottery closed because someone won big and they didn't pay him so he can't chase them as he doesn't know them.

[rahmad2nd]

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Whatever the result would be, we can't deny the fact that it will still affect the trust rate of the said casino. Many players will have doubts and may switch to other casinos because of the fear that the same thing might happen to them. In case the accusation would be proven wrong, the site can rebuild their reputation again but it can't still erase the issue completely. If they will be proven guilty, they have to pay the higher cost of damages to the gambler.

In fact, we do not get any new information regarding the development of this case. looks like Op, is no longer interested in this discussion. however, based on what you said. I think the answer will be very relative regarding whether or not it affects the level of trust in the casino lottery platform, moreover here we are not the judges who determine who is guilty.

The problem is, you don't have accurate information because both parties claim each other and end up in court. if we want to judge it more objectively, of course we have to look at the facts from both sides. whether it's from the complainant, or the lottery platform which says that the lottery winner committed an act of irregularity. and whoever is proven guilty must be held accountable. if the complainant is proven to be fraudulent, then he must be held accountable for the consequences and if the platform is proven to be fraudulent.  therefore, they must pay according to their responsibility to the lottery winners and risk losing their loyal customers.

[dothebeats]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

But mostly this kind of case is illegal and for sure what you've expected on this?  If legal as long as you have the winning ticket then the case will end, and you'll be sure that you can get the money but if it is illegal it is more likely the lottery will close and not open or they will keep blind that you didn't win even if you have that ticket. I heard this rumours around our neighbourhood when I was a child that a lottery closed because someone won big and they didn't pay him so he can't chase them as he doesn't know them.

This is why you only bet on government-accredited agents for your lottery bets. You should only bet on the national lottery so that you can always chase them and sue them if they refuse to pay. Those lotteries you speak off are small-town lotteries usually run by some rich local or some corrupt politicians. You won't have any shot in getting these guys into jail because they know so well that no matter how hard you try to get them pay you, you'll have to provide legal proof that they really owe you money. If what they're doing is already illegal, then obviously you don't want to pursue them because that might even put you in hot water.

I have heard similar stories here in our locality too. Instead of going after the operator (which they never know who that is), they just let it go because even the agent doesn't even know who he's working for.

[Viscore]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

Right, as there are certainly legal and illegal operating lottery. But if the said lottery is legal, if the bettor has provide valid proofs that will point him as the winner, then the legally operating lottery should abide with the rules and have to pay the winner his winning amount. Otherwise, this legal lottery will be subject for closure once proven that it’s not following the lottery rules and policies implemented by the government.

[Fortify]

I came across a story on this thread about a lottery company refusing to make payments to a player who legally played a game with about $690 and won over $160,000 but was denied payment on the grounds that his winning data has been wiped out of their system.
Below is the link to the original story.
https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
Link to the topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418121.msg61175078#msg61175078.

I just came across another news,where the lottery company, has now come to a defense of its action for not paying the winner his winnings with claims that winner was involved in irregularities. And that around 2019 he won a huge sum of money from them and now another winner from same outlet which was suspicious to them.
https://leadership.ng/lagos-lottery-coy-says-claimant-of-n72-2m-win-engaged-in-irregularities/

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

What an utterly bizarre story and it gives a very poor impression of the lottery company involved. You should be careful about intermingling two unrelated cases because one might be a case where the company was generally terribly managed and they should pay up because their own systems were so poorly designed, whereas the second case does seem more like suspicious activity on behalf of the claimant. You always need to look at the evidence presented instead of assuming that one party is instantly the victim. In the first they would likely lose if the person took the case to court and could give even some basic evidence, because for the company to claim their system is wiped is very negligent.

[AmoreJaz]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

Right, as there are certainly legal and illegal operating lottery. But if the said lottery is legal, if the bettor has provide valid proofs that will point him as the winner, then the legally operating lottery should abide with the rules and have to pay the winner his winning amount. Otherwise, this legal lottery will be subject for closure once proven that it’s not following the lottery rules and policies implemented by the government.

you have high hopes if the site is legal as they will do the right thing to maintain their business operations. that is, if they see that it is their fault in the system and not the player. but some will find all the loopholes that they can think of just to avoid the payment of winnings. if they have no money to pay, they may even close down their site. in such cases, you can tell what will the lottery operator will do on how they are set-up as a business, is it legal or not? if it is under the govt and the lottery winner has all the proofs that he won, he may get his winnings. but if not, high likely that the lottery operator will just ignore the huge winnings, and abandon the business.

[freedomgo]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

But mostly this kind of case is illegal and for sure what you've expected on this?  If legal as long as you have the winning ticket then the case will end, and you'll be sure that you can get the money but if it is illegal it is more likely the lottery will close and not open or they will keep blind that you didn't win even if you have that ticket. I heard this rumours around our neighbourhood when I was a child that a lottery closed because someone won big and they didn't pay him so he can't chase them as he doesn't know them.

Well, that would be an expected consequence if someone bets from an illegal betting company, and he knows he can’t do anything about it but regret. But here, the lottery company seems legal but their reason of not paying is just very light and unreasonable, but only the court will prove it if who’s been the telling the truth. Once proven, then the one who is at fault should be given proper sanction.

[Mahanton]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Some countries lottery/gambling is legal and some countries lottery/gambling is illegal, if you talk about laws, it depends.

I mean, there are lottery companies that are illegal and there are legal ones, if the user wins the lottery the lottery dealer doesn't pay, let's say the lottery company is legal, if the winning user has enough proof of his winnings that user will get the lottery and vice versa it is illegal to have no hope for that user.

In the case as you mentioned, it seems legal, it is marked that the user is likely to get the lottery.

But mostly this kind of case is illegal and for sure what you've expected on this?  If legal as long as you have the winning ticket then the case will end, and you'll be sure that you can get the money but if it is illegal it is more likely the lottery will close and not open or they will keep blind that you didn't win even if you have that ticket. I heard this rumours around our neighbourhood when I was a child that a lottery closed because someone won big and they didn't pay him so he can't chase them as he doesn't know them.

Well, that would be an expected consequence if someone bets from an illegal betting company, and he knows he can’t do anything about it but regret. But here, the lottery company seems legal but their reason of not paying is just very light and unreasonable, but only the court will prove it if who’s been the telling the truth. Once proven, then the one who is at fault should be given proper sanction.

You would be saving up your ass on the entire hassle and action if you had just do your assignment on making yourself deal with the legit company or site that we do have in the market because even though risk is there but most of chances you would really be paid up and this is why its not really that recommendable for you to touch up places which arent known or been recognized by this community because high chancest
that you might get scammed or not getting paid if you do able to hit up something, if we do consider out lottery winnings then its huge and you cant really just be that relaxed if ever
you wont be paid but there are things which ends up that there's nothing you can do but to move on.

[Woodie]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

If they can provide the proof that their client was involved in the fraudulent lottery win then of course they can win this case.. but if this is some bluff to try buy time or wasting the courts time then for sure they will pay extra for defamation of character, wasting time for the court and failing to honor their obligation, good luck to them.

And why are these guys so convinced that clients can't win unless their is a an irregularity, maybe these lotteries are rigged not to be won which is why they want to run to the courts???

[crzy]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

If they can provide the proof that their client was involved in the fraudulent lottery win then of course they can win this case.. but if this is some bluff to try buy time or wasting the courts time then for sure they will pay extra for defamation of character, wasting time for the court and failing to honor their obligation, good luck to them.

And why are these guys so convinced that clients can't win unless their is a an irregularity, maybe these lotteries are rigged not to be won which is why they want to run to the courts???

This may take time but will surely ruin the reputation of that lottery, there should be no irregularity especially if you are just betting with your old numbers and luckily, got it correctly. If that lottery company still refuse to pay you hopefully the court can force them and ask for damages as well, winning the lottery should not be stressful like this, they should be more professional and pay the winner in time.